A great review. I had a test drive of the NextGen WildTrack and was more than impressed how quiet and smooth and powerful it was . I understand all the Rangers and Everests now will have the 10 speed 10R80 transmission that has been used since 2018 in the F150`s in America. There reliability is in question and have had legal class actions due to transmissions faults in America Has Ford done any updates on these transmissions to in the NextGen range ?
Why are the A/C controls always on screen when there are buttons for it right below? I will never understand this design choice. Having them both is redundant and a waste of electronics/ screen space. You should be able to remove it from the screen. Ford need to update this and soon
Some people like both. I'm not sure it takes up screen space? It may only be there when in climate control mode? Don't know? With a 12" screen space isn't an issue I would have thought
@@deanrwilson it can’t be removed. The A/C option is permanent on the screen. It takes up nearly a quarter of the screen. It’s not the space it takes up that is the issue it’s the fact that you have a bad no of physical buttons with the exact same option digitally above it. It’s redundant design and makes no sense. I prefer the physical buttons, I can see why people would prefer the screen option. So why not give people the choice between having a second row of the exact same buttons or being able to free up some extra screen space to have something you find more useful on display.
Try changing HVAC settings quickly while driving using physical switches/knobs and then try using a screen menu for the same change... and then try both on bumpy/rocky roads...
@@ymml467 No shit... fuck man, its not the presence of the physical switches, its the fact that the screen HAS THE EXACT SAME BUTTONS AS THE PHYSICAL SWITCHES BUT YOU CANT GET RID OF THE BUTTONS ON THE SCREEN SO YOU EFFECTIVELY HAVE TWO BANKS OF THE EXACT SAME CONTROLS AT THE COST OF SCREEN REAL ESTATE WHICH COULD BE BETTER USED BY HAVING SOME OTHER APP THERE INSTEAD FOR WHEN YOU ARE DRIVING GIVING YOU MORE OPTIONS FOR READILY AVAILABLE CONTROLS! Its not a hard concept to grasp
I am wondering, if the BP51 in a Wildtrak with bullvar and winch would be better than the Raptor with the same amount of weight and its suspension for touring/ offroad use?
It'll tow more and carry more and cost a bit less......... but it won't hold a candle to the Raptor when driven hard off road. I have a current gen Ranger Raptor and spent a bit of time in an FX4 Maxx and in spots it was 30-50kph slower than the Raptor by necessity and not wanting to break the car... BP51 is good, but it is nothing on the total package that the Raptor is.
@@mortazaamiry6468 Raptor will be best exactly as Ford delivers it... I tried to turn mine into a tourer and added heaps of weight to make it do what I wanted, then I needed heavy springs to overcome the additional weight and it ruined the ride, handling and overall performance... after about 90,000km I pulled all the canopy, drawers and heavy stuff back off and went back to stock vehicle and suspension and couldn't believe how much better it was! If you put a bar and winch on I'd find the lightest bar (no hoops) and use a dyneema rope in the winch to try to limit the additional mass over the front... then if necessary set ride height with springs to bring it back to stock height. Raptor dampers are position sensitive so they work best in the factory ride position... any lift should be done with a proper revalve of the shockers (that's where I stuffed mine I think)! Mongrel Offroad do a winch kit for current Raptor that keeps stock bumper! Something like that'd be an awesome bit of kit if you only want the winch for emergency recoveries...
I love the Ranger for what it is "BUT" I'm not a 4W Driver. I wish Ford made a Street Version which is a lowered version in 2WD but with the rest of the spec's of the 4WD versions. I'm amazed Ford don't look at that as there is an Un-tapped Market for a Street Version of the Ranger.
@@keanualexander8955 I've had 2x 3.2lt 5 cylinders (BT50 and PX2 Ranger) but now have a 2.0 bi-turbo Raptor... our business has a fleet of around 60x utes with that shocking engine! They're not the amazing motor many people think they are!... yes they were better than the 2.2 4 cylinder, and yes they made reasonable power and torque for what they were but they were stressed out too much as they were... If it isn't spitting coolant out due to faulty EGR coolers they're failing fuel pumps, injectors or warping heads... absolute shocker of a thing and I'm glad Ford gave them a 5 year unlimited kilometres warranty in Australia as they would run most people broke before they hit 200,000km if they're worked hard!
So I'm out in the Simpson and the electrics fail. Can't get it in/out of 4x4 can't open / close the windows : can't even turn the car on or off. Ford dealership is 2000kms away. So WHAT DO I DO? We're kidding ourselves if these cars are game changers. Don't get me wrong. I think they're nice but it's almost at the point where u buy yourself a cheap old no thrills off-roader, mod it to your hearts content and then an EV to shoot around town in.
Valid points! There is nothing on the market these days you'd trust in a crisis like an older model pre 2005 model 4x4... (seems like around then that things got techy)
I think this is happening already by the looks of the resale value of older less tech 4x4s. But then again even the GU Patrol has an ecu and canbus....which is linked to a body control module down where it gets fried if water gets in the cab. So I'm not sure what measure you apply to reliability eg in the desert. Most unreliable car on our trip there was a 100 series...supposedly bullet proof.
Sorry, but that was an awful review. I have come to expect this from your platform so I guess I am not surprised. Need John Cadogan on your team, atleast there will be less nonsense and more impartial views. Not to mention half of that "off road review" was on road.
is it just me of this Ranger launch been the longest 12 months of our lives?
No that would be the 300 launch and subsequent stop sales
Well the Bronco was announced in 2016, and now a few people have theirs 6 years later. Must be a Ford thing.
Just you !
A great review.
I had a test drive of the NextGen WildTrack and was more than impressed how quiet and smooth and powerful it was .
I understand all the Rangers and Everests now will have the 10 speed 10R80 transmission that has been used since 2018 in the
F150`s in America. There reliability is in question and have had legal class actions due to transmissions faults in America
Has Ford done any updates on these transmissions to in the NextGen range ?
Do you have a review of that white ARB kitted ranger? Be keen to hear how the BP-51 suspension compares to the stock suspension.
Why are the A/C controls always on screen when there are buttons for it right below? I will never understand this design choice. Having them both is redundant and a waste of electronics/ screen space. You should be able to remove it from the screen.
Ford need to update this and soon
Some people like both. I'm not sure it takes up screen space? It may only be there when in climate control mode? Don't know? With a 12" screen space isn't an issue I would have thought
@@deanrwilson it can’t be removed. The A/C option is permanent on the screen. It takes up nearly a quarter of the screen.
It’s not the space it takes up that is the issue it’s the fact that you have a bad no of physical buttons with the exact same option digitally above it.
It’s redundant design and makes no sense.
I prefer the physical buttons, I can see why people would prefer the screen option.
So why not give people the choice between having a second row of the exact same buttons or being able to free up some extra screen space to have something you find more useful on display.
Because its hard to change settings on the screen while your driving
Try changing HVAC settings quickly while driving using physical switches/knobs and then try using a screen menu for the same change... and then try both on bumpy/rocky roads...
@@ymml467 No shit... fuck man, its not the presence of the physical switches, its the fact that the screen HAS THE EXACT SAME BUTTONS AS THE PHYSICAL SWITCHES BUT YOU CANT GET RID OF THE BUTTONS ON THE SCREEN SO YOU EFFECTIVELY HAVE TWO BANKS OF THE EXACT SAME CONTROLS AT THE COST OF SCREEN REAL ESTATE WHICH COULD BE BETTER USED BY HAVING SOME OTHER APP THERE INSTEAD FOR WHEN YOU ARE DRIVING GIVING YOU MORE OPTIONS FOR READILY AVAILABLE CONTROLS!
Its not a hard concept to grasp
I am wondering, if the BP51 in a Wildtrak with bullvar and winch would be better than the Raptor with the same amount of weight and its suspension for touring/ offroad use?
Would probably tow more
It'll tow more and carry more and cost a bit less......... but it won't hold a candle to the Raptor when driven hard off road.
I have a current gen Ranger Raptor and spent a bit of time in an FX4 Maxx and in spots it was 30-50kph slower than the Raptor by necessity and not wanting to break the car...
BP51 is good, but it is nothing on the total package that the Raptor is.
@@dwaynE2099 Great first hand feedback. Do you think it will still perform as good with a bar and winch at the front of the Raptor?
@@mortazaamiry6468 Raptor will be best exactly as Ford delivers it... I tried to turn mine into a tourer and added heaps of weight to make it do what I wanted, then I needed heavy springs to overcome the additional weight and it ruined the ride, handling and overall performance... after about 90,000km I pulled all the canopy, drawers and heavy stuff back off and went back to stock vehicle and suspension and couldn't believe how much better it was!
If you put a bar and winch on I'd find the lightest bar (no hoops) and use a dyneema rope in the winch to try to limit the additional mass over the front... then if necessary set ride height with springs to bring it back to stock height. Raptor dampers are position sensitive so they work best in the factory ride position... any lift should be done with a proper revalve of the shockers (that's where I stuffed mine I think)!
Mongrel Offroad do a winch kit for current Raptor that keeps stock bumper! Something like that'd be an awesome bit of kit if you only want the winch for emergency recoveries...
@@dwaynE2099 You have provided all the info I needed. Thanks mate.
Thanks for calling it a Ute👍. This proper terminology is not being upheld by all Australian media entities. 😬
2022 v6 Rangers being held in Sydney because of manufacturing fault unknown when fault rectified.
The front lights I'm struggling with, same issue I had with the previous Pajero sport rear lights.
V6 Dual Cab of the year 2023 game over already 4X4 Australia Too early to call it?
I just hope it's as reliable as the current V6 Amarok.?
It's been used in the F-150 in the USA until last year...no major issues...plus Ford servicing is cheaper than VW :):)
toooo funny
@@ymml467 no major issues, bottom end bearing issues come up a fair bit in the f150 now it’s dropped, we always get the old rubbish.
Nice. But too much tech for my liking.
Go for hilux lmao
@@Kyxmyx floor that Hilux and you’ll see 100 by tomorrow
Is it still a leaf spring rear end.
Same as previous gen - only Raptor gets coil rear
Leaves but with re positioned shocks like the old Amarok so more space in the tray. The Raptor has vastly reduced carrying and towing ability too.
Again..hope the rear end weaknesses have been addressed such that the hangers and leafs don't crack and break like the current Ute.
I love the Ranger for what it is "BUT" I'm not a 4W Driver. I wish Ford made a Street Version which is a lowered version in 2WD but with the rest of the spec's of the 4WD versions. I'm amazed Ford don't look at that as there is an Un-tapped Market for a Street Version of the Ranger.
Yes, but how does it compare to the 3.2ltr 5 cylinder. I am not going to trade in my 5 cylinder if 5heres not much gain in power,,,,,.
3.2L is a dinosaur in comparison
Maybe throw a 10 speed in the 3.2 with a tune
The 3.2 5-pot is a junk engine... this new V6 diesel will be a brilliant donk compared to the P5AT
@@dwaynE2099 They should of called the 5 cyl 5PAT... Looks like SPAT a Piston , lol
@@dwaynE2099 u must own a hilux …..
They should have put a Bi-Turbo in the 3.2 and then throw in the 10 speed.
@@keanualexander8955 I've had 2x 3.2lt 5 cylinders (BT50 and PX2 Ranger) but now have a 2.0 bi-turbo Raptor... our business has a fleet of around 60x utes with that shocking engine! They're not the amazing motor many people think they are!... yes they were better than the 2.2 4 cylinder, and yes they made reasonable power and torque for what they were but they were stressed out too much as they were...
If it isn't spitting coolant out due to faulty EGR coolers they're failing fuel pumps, injectors or warping heads... absolute shocker of a thing and I'm glad Ford gave them a 5 year unlimited kilometres warranty in Australia as they would run most people broke before they hit 200,000km if they're worked hard!
this ranger were das made in
I need the v6 diesel In the raptor 🥺
I still want the mustang V8. 😜
@@bendgeddes I believe that one is in Raptor R(the F150 model). But it's not from Mustang, it's from big boy Shelby.
3.0 twin turbo that it’s getting is probably more fun.
@@alexs3187 the fuel economy will be bad bad bad so no thank you I will not buy it!
you had to say Game changer, meh!!
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I am struggling with the overall look of it to be honest. Each to their own. Not for me, will hang onto my px3 for a while longer
So I'm out in the Simpson and the electrics fail. Can't get it in/out of 4x4 can't open / close the windows : can't even turn the car on or off. Ford dealership is 2000kms away. So WHAT DO I DO? We're kidding ourselves if these cars are game changers. Don't get me wrong. I think they're nice but it's almost at the point where u buy yourself a cheap old no thrills off-roader, mod it to your hearts content and then an EV to shoot around town in.
Valid points! There is nothing on the market these days you'd trust in a crisis like an older model pre 2005 model 4x4... (seems like around then that things got techy)
@@dwaynE2099 yeah I agree. I call them urban off roaders 😂😂
I think this is happening already by the looks of the resale value of older less tech 4x4s. But then again even the GU Patrol has an ecu and canbus....which is linked to a body control module down where it gets fried if water gets in the cab. So I'm not sure what measure you apply to reliability eg in the desert. Most unreliable car on our trip there was a 100 series...supposedly bullet proof.
Black pearl pastoral So we should also still be flying in old Boeing 707 planes
@james posterson having the hood up is the point - not if but when both vehicles break down it's the old boy that gets up and going first.
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ranger made in south Africa not perfectly many things not probably oooo please bad finishing
ihate that electronic geer
You need a beard to drive a ford
Sorry, but that was an awful review. I have come to expect this from your platform so I guess I am not surprised. Need John Cadogan on your team, atleast there will be less nonsense and more impartial views. Not to mention half of that "off road review" was on road.