NEW KAVAN Norden 1600mm STOL RC plane bush scheme 4S PNF CRASH on Maiden flight
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In the middle of the 1990s, the Italian designer Pasquale Russo and his team set out to create an ultra-light tourist aircraft with excellent flight characteristics, short take-off and landing capabilities, with a classical proven design, which would be economical in operation, easy to build and maintain. They were inspired by the legendary Piper Cub; but during construction, they used the most modern computer technology and the latest achievements in aerodynamics, top materials and avionics, so they created a perfect machine for the beginning of the 21st century.
The very first type of the Savage line entered production in Italy in 1997/1998; in 1999 the manufacturing was relocated to the Czech Republic. Ever since, it has been continuing with growing success in the Zlin Aviation s.r.o. company, relying on the long tradition of the world-renowned sport aircraft manufacturer and their highly skilled work team.
More than 500 of the Savage aircraft have found their customers all over the world so far; the latest addition to the line is the NORDEN, designed for Rotax® 914, 915 or 916 engines of 115/141/160 HP. The manufacturer offers the installation of a wide range of propellers, avionics and custom modifications in order to fulfil every bush-flyer’s dream of an „adventourist“ aeroplane capable of landing and taking off anywhere and anytime, providing the unsurpassed enjoyment of flight with a virtually unobstructed view as it was with the legendary Cub. And now you can enjoy flying with our 1600mm wingspan semi-scale model of this beautiful aeroplane powered by a brushless motor.
The EPO foam fuselage, thoroughly carbon-reinforced, comes with the KAVAN C3548-8050 brushless motor, 10×6” three-blade propeller and KAVAN R-50SB Plus ESC featuring a powerful switching SBEC stabilizer necessary to feed all 6 servos aboard. The battery compartment (under a removable hatch in the nose) offers a lot of space for your flight pack.
The two-piece EPO wing is reinforced by carbon spars and joined together with a carbon tube joiner. The wing is secured by bolts to the fuselage. The ailerons and flaps (with coupled slats on the leading edge) are controlled by two pairs of servos installed in the wing driven with short wire push rods; there are navigation LED lights installed as well. The easy-to-install composite wing struts are secured with a pair of wire clips.
The empennage is made of the EPO foam. The elevator and rudder servos are installed in the fuselage.
The main undercarriage has aluminium alloy legs with scale spring struts; the steel wire tailwheel is coupled with the rudder.
Norden is powered by the KAVAN C3548-800 brushless motor with the KAVAN R-50SB Plus 50A ESC.
You will need a 14.8V 2600-3300mAh flight pack (at least 30C) to fly your Norden.
You will need at least a 6-channel RC set to control your Norden; even a non-computer radio would work as the aileron, flap, rudder and elevator servos are controlled by a single channel each (linked via the pre-installed connection board). At least a 7-channel computer radio will work best; an independent aileron and flap servo control will help you enjoy your Norden to the fullest. Fortunately, even entry-level/budget-friendly radios like Radiolink AT9S or AT10II, Futaba T6K or T10J feature all the necessary mixes today. In this case, you will have to connect the aileron and flap servos directly (you can use our optional bypass cable set). The instruction manual contains a thoroughly tested set-up table in order to help you set up the Norden easily even if it is your first “full house” control aeroplane.
ARTF set contents: Complete EPO fuselage, wings and empennage with pre-installed motor, propeller, ESC, 6 servos and LED navigation lights, instruction manual.
You will fix this Pilot Robert 🙌
Its fixed my friend.
@@PetrincicBrosRC 👍😁
The look on your face,,, Priceless.... I know the feeling.
I was really shocked.
And you make no excuses perfect. Love to watch you fly.
I m watching your videos for about a year and I want to tell you that I ❤you both of you.YOUR ARE THE BEST 😍
Thanks my friend for such kind words 👍
The post crash silence was deafening. That was an absolute lawn dart. We’ve all been there brother!!! Fix her and bring the smiles!
What to say after mistake like this 😊
This is the first time I ever saw you genuinely pissed. You held it together, but you were seething.
I was really pissed of myself for doing such stupid thing.
It happens to all who dare to fly😊. Fix it and fly out again 🎉. My favorite brothers!
Its ready 👍
Surprised it went into a spin so easily - and didn't recover once you released the sticks.
After a successful maiden it would be interesting to do some spin testing.
I was surprised too. I think most every plane I've flown would have recovered and he plenty of height too. I wondered if an elevator servo froze? I lost a plane the other day.... flat spin and as I came out the servo locked up and I couldn't get it level a second time.
The servo was frozen after the crash too. Bush mule. I'm extra leery of models with cheaper now servos
I really didnt expected that to happen.
Oh wow! that really went down in a spiral! I thought thats it but looks absolutlely repairable!
You will fly that again in no time Pilot Robert! 💪
Salute
Iam posting maiden right now 👍
@@PetrincicBrosRC will be watching it very soon :P
Your face as you turned around to face the camera was priceless. That was a magnificent spin. As my jet flying buddy would say, after he crashed his FW 80mm F-14 (and other assorted jets), 'Its just money" It's worse, much worse when you spent several months building a kit, only to loose it in the maiden.
All or nothing my friend 😁
Broke my heart to see that such a beautiful plane, know you'll fix her back up look forward to the next flight
I was angry at myself for sure.
Been there...Done that!........Salute!
Big salute back my friend 👍
and that is why we love horizon hobby.
I really wonder if I have ever crashed EFlite bird by now? I love them.
A maiden flight, or a maiden crash. Always going to be one or the other. Beautiful weather, good times with your brother. We are all very blessed. I have pre ordered mine and am waiting patiently. I will not be trying to do any stall turns on the maiden after this video! Thanks so much for your videos they bring me much joy!
I think this baby should be flown simple and with not much stunts.
Oh No ! Sorry to see this my friends. Best of luck on the repairs , SALUTE 🫡🇨🇦
Thanks. The bird is fixed.
@@PetrincicBrosRC Good to hear .
Pilot Robert, you have the benefit of having excellent footage of the incident. You give comfort to many flyers with far less experience that things happen. Win or lose it is always great fun! ❤ 🇦🇺
At least that my friend. Cant you imagine how much sader it would be if we didnt film it.
I landed an FMS 980mm P-40 just like that. Beautiful little doner plane. My other planes all have nice 9g metal gear servos, now 👍
Always wanted that P-40 to film.
Oh no my friends!!! I am confident Pilot Robert will fly this plane again. Big Salute to Tim Gajser representing Slovenia at Motocross of Nations this past weekend with a magnificent win. Congratulations from the USA 👍
Tim Gajser is awesome.
Sorry for your loss!
Love the authencity!
Why to hide and pretend to be professional pilot 😊
That's a bummer
That's a good looking cub.
Pretty sexi.
Awesome. You stalled and spun it. Pushing the envelope ✌️😂
All or nothing this time 😉
Your kindof 3D manoeuvre at the end of the climb did put you in a classic spin rightaway. But by the time you (and I )recognized that this is no longer controlled flight, it was already too late for the spin recovery procedure. Or for anything else... I hope to see those marvellous two-stage flaps in action soon! Love this bird
She will fly again ! Patience and time .... Such a gorgeous plane ... on a beautiful morning ..... ! 😉🙃😎 NZ
Its fixed and ready 👍
I'm surprised it wasn't more completely destroyed....wish I had all my maidens on video!! Thanks Guys!
Its really one tough plane.
BIG SALUTE for a BIG Spiral
One of the biggest 😊
That hurts 😬Hopefully, it is completely repairable
Hey Kavan, 4000 4S is ok or a little too much?
I was really sad this time Jan. Wanted to film perfect flight and I stall it. This was my mistake I think and dont worry. We never give up on the planes that we film so I have fixed it and did perfect maiden this Sunday. Its amazing how tough in fact this plane is. It looks again like new bird. Will post redemption maiden on Friday. Thanks again Jan and big salute from Slovenia.
@@PetrincicBrosRC We all make mistakes, but dedication is what matters. Great news, I am happy you put it together already, and now we can look forward to seeing the true maiden flight. Thank you and big salute. 💙
@@PetrincicBrosRCGood luck!
@@quilong Hi, it is outside of our recommended range. Depending on the weight it might work - note that the wing loading changes, not only the CG, so we can't guarantee regular behaviour. You can carefully test it though.
Big salute 👍... Maybe with full throttle on descending and higher altitude it wouldn't stalled. Can't wait to see flight video after you gonna fix it
It was my mistake this time.
@@PetrincicBrosRC fly, crash, fix, repeat ❤️🛩️
Robert it flew great. Sorry for the crash. Hope you can fix it. Blaz amazing video and post crash comforting Robert. Salute Jeff in LA USA
Oh its fixed my friend. Redemption flight will be posted on Friday 👍
@@PetrincicBrosRC Robert that's Great, remember if you're going to do crazy stuff do it higher. Salute
That's one heck of a landing, guys 👍
Cant get much better 😉😁
It looks like an unfortunate combination of flight maneuvres. That can happen. I had that too.🙄 The plane is repairable. If you have bent foam parts use cooking water to get them back in shape (but I think yo know that). I will do some tests with a camera and wool threads to see the airstream when I have buildt my Kavan Norden. I like most that you came to a positive spirit after the first shock.👍 Salute pilot Robert
This was my mistake for sure.
The babling came back pretty fast after the crash :-P
I just cant help myself 😁
Ouch!! I’ve done that exact same thing a few times. Usually, it would level out, but it looked like you ran out of room. At least this plane can be fixed! Whether it be crashes or successful flights, you guys make it fun for all of us! Keep it up!!
I was just too close to ground to react correct.
Such a cool plane ....the flaps are double slotted flaps....
Its beautiful.
This could be a result of mixing aileron and rudder.
But robert the look on your face was priceless.
Another brilliant video chaps..
I was really wondering what to say at that moment 😊
😮 everyone's heart stopped for a moment when she hit the ground Robert, and I bet like me rewinded the video a couple of times to see what happened.
A great video, though!!
Mine also my friend 😄
A wolf in sheep's clothing? A surprisingly shocking experience! Hey, the model looks extremely boring, I would have thought that it could be moved into stall as easily as a "Spitfire" - I don't, I'm really amazed. Well, now it has to be glued first, but my interest has now been piqued because it seems to be unstable enough to have aerobatic fun with it. The first impression can be deceptive and, especially as an experienced pilot, you don't really expect it with such a good design and become careless. Now we have been grounded again, it is a reminder to all of us. Thanks for this video and best regards from Germany.
I really didnt expected this. I have crashed high wing bird like some beginner pilot. I mean Iam amateur pilot bit still I didnt expected this.
Sorry to see. This is why I've only bought and flown foam RC Planes; they seem to have a way higher repairability rate than the balsa, plywood and fabric constructed RC Planes.
Very much looking forward to the re-maiden.
Shit happens, it does fly nice captain Robert. Easy peasy fix.
There was high frequency vibration, can be heard in the video.
So sorry for you seeing this. It was very unexpected..
I did exactly the same. So I know how it feels.
I was teaching someone how to do a spin with a Bixlar3. It didn't pull out..
To me it looked like the plane didn't have enough height to stop the spin and pull out..
I bet it's fixed already. Thank god for foam. Hehe
Love your vids
When in doubt, power out!!!
Oh yeah.
Bonjour .Je suis toujours ravi de vos essais et de vos pilotages qui sont toujours sans fautes et parfaits seulement voilà cette fois c'est un Kavan !!!! oui Kavan fait de beaux avions mais de piètre qualité il faut tout vérifier les collages, les servos ,les guignoles tout quoi !! a mon avis c'est un servo qui a laché ça arrive souvent chez Kavan car cela m'est arrivé souvent .Dommage ce crash mais réparable !!! revérifiez tout .Bon courage et bravo .Souhait ! que Kavan revoit la qualité de ses produits .Amtiés de France
I like Splat Flips LOL
Me too 😊
I see what you did there!
😢 we have all been there mate, far to often😂..and all you can do after the silence is laugh and go back home and repair her👍 the flaps are slotted flaps and front slats but i preferred your flip splats😂😂👍👍
It happens my friend.
Oh 😮 captain Blazzz💥 you went into the eye of the hurricane 🌀
It really looked like that 😊
She will fly again my friend, and then we will see her do what she is made for! FuN!
We never give up on this channel 😊
Don't feel bad. We have a crashed and wondered WTF just happened. Lol
I was shocked my friend.
@@PetrincicBrosRC You guys have such great content every single time.The best RC plane channel by far ! Cheers 🥂
I have confidence my friends. She will fly again. Salute.
Its fixed my friend.
@@PetrincicBrosRC I knew you would. Looking forward to the Maiden Maiden.
What switch did you change. I wouldn't have expected that from that plane either.
Crash sequence begins at 8:13. Thank you for sharing.
I will. Thanks.
Yes u are exactly right Robert things happen and I know u will be able to fix her up then back in the air you go, all good wish you guys all the best from calgary Alberta Canada.
Redemption flight was sweet my friend.
It's really strange that the plane wouldn't pull up again from the dive... but no worries, this is the stuff that sets you apart from other channels!
Thanks Norm. We never hide here.
After this crash you should be promoted to majors from captains. The popularity of this channel is due to the fact that you are not ashame to show to the truth to the whole world. Even experienced pilots can crash. You are not never try to hide it. However, Petrincic Bros, for your youtube viewers you are perfect no matter the result of the flights.
It looks like you suffered a connection problem and it was NOT a pilot error. we could see that once the plane climbed up the sound of the motor suddenly stoped probably because of a break in the link between the controller and the plane receiver. A second after the plane turned and moved down the motor sound returned (the connection between the controller and the receiver re-established) but it iwas too late to fix the deep death spiral.
I thought he had taken the throttle off at 8:12. But it could also have been a connection problem. That would fit with Spektrum. I also had connection problems with my Spektrum transmitter now and then and that's why I switched to FrSky.
Why to hide my friend. I crash also from time to time like most of RC pilots 😉
@@centavo7714 Why do not you use ELRS? You can just buy an ELRS module and use it in your current controller.
My Draco went in the dirt the same way, so sorry to see.
Does look fixable. I did something similar on my 6th flight of my new Super Timber. I fixed mine. Sure looks like a nice plane and I bet you get it flying again. I LOVE Foam-Tac!
Maybe do a video of your fixing it and how it turns out.
Foam Tac is the best my friend. And I cant get it anymore here in EU.
I am so sorry to see that Robert,but with a little work it will fly again.Capatain Blaz did a great job with the camera.Thank you my friends for this video.
Thanks Don. The bird is fixed 👍
Sorry it stalled, I feel your pain. I love the way you show all the ups and downs (!) of RC flying. The only way to never crash is to never fly. 3:48: Just for clarification, split flaps are where the flaps are on the lower wing only, so looking at the top of the wing the flaps can't be seen whether raised or lowered. An example is the Spitfire. The Corsair does not have split flaps. Lots of flaps yes but not split.
We are just kidding about splat flips 😊
@@PetrincicBrosRC I get the humourous splat flips Spoonerism ;-) , just that you said the plane had split flaps like a Corsair. Anyway, love your videos, they always make me laugh.
Robert, I'm so sad to see this happen to such a beautiful model. We all share your pain and exasperation. Fly, crash, fix, repeat... I can't wait to see it repaired and in the air once more.
I was really mad at myself for doing such rookie mistake on new bird. But dont worry the bird is fixed like new. Almoust 😊
@@PetrincicBrosRC ❤
… “at least you will have something to do at the weekend”… 🤣🤣🤣
Still the best Rc channel, warts and all!! 🤗❤️❤️
And really. I did fix it and its almoust like new again 😊
@@PetrincicBrosRC I never doubted it for a second! 🤗😁👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼❤️
You should film the repair , I've got a zohd Delta strike that has never come home in one piece,I have flown it 4 times or try to fly it,so I know the feeling of maiden gone bad.
This is a lesson learn from the mistake and keep flying 🤞
Oh I did learn something here 👍
Still a great video guys! I say get out the Super Timber again!
Thanks I will. Just to get in good feeling again.
Good job. Has happened to all of us. Terry&ThePirates South Florida.
Mir nicht
Thanks my friend.
@@FloetenPoldiGermany do you fly RC planes? How many years? If you really didnt crash even once then I give you one big big salute 😉
Pissed for you brother!
I was really pissed on myself this time.
Been there, done that😬
Oh I like salute 🙋🤔👍
Big salute back my friend.
ill will watch more off yor vids there great
You are welcome my friend to feel like at home here with me and Blaž.
You guys are brilliant 😂unlucky this time but its flying it happens 😔better luck next time 🤞🏻👌🏻
As long as we dont give up 😁
Ooohhh man that breaks your heart. Beautiful plane though. It's fixable. Just wasn't enough space between the plane and the ground.
Its fixed my friend.
Really unfortunate, things do happen and so fast, you don't have time to react.. you handled it well cap'n Robert..I look forward to the repair and re Maiden
I’m guessing it was a brown out. Lost connection. The look on your face. I know the feeling.
It will fly again Robert! With every crash there is something to learn…
Oh we never give up on any plane.
Ouch that hurt to watch, most of the time I laugh when I crash but then sometimes it feels like this
3:25 ..flaperon !!! 🍺🍺🍺😁👍
Oh yeah.
Oh no! That's unfortunate. Just get right back on the horse, fix the plane, and fly again. I'm looking forward to the fix-it video and the maiden flight, "round 2."
It went into a spin. One side of wing is stalled.
Recovering from a spin typically requires opposite rudder and NO aileron (so avoid rudder/aileron mixing).
Recovery requires practice until its instinctive.
Sorry for your loss.
Practice spin recovery!
this is definitely fixable, don't worry pilot Robert! Some carbon strips and hot glue will have her back in the air in no time. Thanks for the video guys, wishing you all the best
Oh yeah my friend.
@@PetrincicBrosRC you fixed it perfectly! I was glad to see this bird back in the air yesterday, wishing you all the best my friends
Fowler Flaps.
Thanks.
Slotted flaps, fowler flaps extend out as well as down to increase wing area..👍
Really too bad that happened on the maiden as it was flying well. Many of these high wing planes which all look similar unfortunately are not very aerobatic. If you compare the Carbon Z Cub or Super Timber to the Norden they look similar and are similar in size yet the Carbon Z and Super Timber are much more capable aerobatically likely due to design factors such power to weight ratio, prop size, wing design, etc. While unrecoverable spins happen in full scale aircraft regularly, you don't see it very often with rc planes. It does make me wonder a bit if it was pilot error or is actually some design flaw with the model. Especially given pilot Robert's high level of experience!
Morning guys i do like the scheme they went with I’m guessing by the title it didn’t come back as good looking as when took off 😮 fixing them after a crash 💥 is sometimes very theroputic and they sometimes fly better after and as blaz said you will have some thing to do at weekend lol especially if it’s raining all the best, G🇬🇧
This was such crazy mistake by me.
@@PetrincicBrosRC unfortunately the last time I flew I had the same lawn dart crash and I’ve not flown for ages I need to get my nerve back and get back to flying, plus my clicky finger needs a break 😂 and I need to fly but as I’ve learned from you it’s all part of the hobby I still remember my first crash god I wanted to cry lol but it still flys today it’s a bit bent and creased but hangs in the hanger on chimney stack pride of place lol 😂
Hey Robert, i think the cause of the spin is there was no washout on the wingtips! Bet there was a little wash in in there. Should have about 3° washout. Then there shouldn't be any more spins 🤗
Interesting thinking my friend.
Just get them to send you a replacement fuse and you are golden.
Accordion Flaps😂😂😂
Robert don't feel too bad. For a bush plane it plane flew like absolute crap from the moment it left the ground. New manufacturer has some growing pains to overcome. Not your fault for high speed stall
I HATE it when, "The splat flips!!!!"
Great video though...again! Hope it can be repaired.
This was splat 😊
@@PetrincicBrosRC
I hated seeing it...and hope it can be fixed or replaced without too much trouble. It really looked like a radio situation to me...a Cub with a good CG should not have those secondary stall tendencies.
Thank you again, as always, for your video!
Pilot Robert you fly some of the fastest airplanes in the world I wasn't expecting this out of this flight but you will have to film the next flight of this plane to get some kind of redemption 🙏
So sorry for you.😢 Strange crash. Are you sure you didn't lost Tx signal or elevator servo? Normally with this kind of plane, releasing stick of wings and pull elevator is enough for stopping spiral.
First time I see a crash with the Norden. Other pilots succeeded with aerobatic flights.
Reason why I suppose it is a mechanic issue or electronic one. Keep us update once your final analysis will be ready
JPhilippe.
Bad luck, feeling a bit bad for you because I wasn't expecting that either 😞. You guys are still the best to watch though, you take the good with the bad and show us anyway 🙂
Thanks Max. I was shocked this time.
Oh shiiiiiiiiiit 😮 so sad…..I’ll try to assemble mine this afternoon 🎉
This was nothing my friend. Such crazy mistake. You will love it. The bird is sexi. I hope you are getting better Arthur.
@@PetrincicBrosRC yes I hope I’ll love it too 🥰 it’s getting better yes but far away from walking 🚶🏻
Wait and see…I’ll have to be patient
Although it' s a bit sad what has happend still I feel that is really valuble information or lessons learned that even with STOL plane which is basically designed to be factory for lift on wings you can get into such situation which leads to loss of control and unavoidable crash (due to low altitude). But again nothing can stop you guys!
Darn it pilot Robert 😮 That's really too bad but the plane must have a bad characteristic it should not have continued that stall on the vertical down 😮 I'm sure you will fix it and get her back in the air better than new Best wishes my brothers😊
This must have been my mistake.
Look at Dis. OH NOOOOOOOO😢. This Old Man from Washington NC been there many times in my 60+ years RC Flying 😭. It looks repairable 👍. IT HAPPENS to all of us 😔. Capt Blaz good job filming👏. Do love me some Brothers and Alina ✈️🧔💝💝💝
Johnny My Friend.
Good Sport Fishing to Yours and You.
@@jonoedwards4195 Good Morning Jono. Saturday 2nd place with my Son. Nice pay day. This Saturday Son and close friend fishing in a 2 day tournament. Winnings could be around $20,000. 🙏🧔💝
@@JohnHill-jm7tm Unreal!
@@jonoedwards4195 ✈️🙏🧔💝
My mistake John. But I have already fixed it.
Bonjour, je pense que vous avez fait un décrochage dynamique.
The plane was heading toward you when the spin started. Did you get your thumbs backwards by chance?
I dont think so but it is what it is now.
i think u had to much elevater and stalled on my timber x u just get a wing wobble and can fly on un fortunatly u added power in a SPIN nevermind . i knocked the front end clean of my acrowot doing a spin the other week all repaired now so get that glue out lads .what dis eh salute to u guys
I built a balsa plane with a .46 OS glow engine with a double tapered symmetrical wing years ago and if I did a loop that was too tight it would drop a wing and free fall about twenty feet before I could correct it. It happened to me 2 times before I learned to make the loops with a larger diameter. I was thinking that those front wing slats could have done something that could have caused the stall.
Oooch 😢nice and expensive Tundra shame about the price. Great vid gents always very entertaining and funny as always. Keep up the outstanding work for the best hobby in the world.
It is like it is. And thanks. We will film as long as possible.
You will fix that my brother
I salute you guys for having fun with the planes. Such a sad deal with that plane. What type of glue? I got a Carbon Cub and on my 2nd flight, coming in to low and hit talk grass, flipped it and cracked the top of the rudder. Thanks and be safe.
Big salute back my friend.
WOW that´s crazy she did not glide down. I had also this type of spiral on my Turbo Timber wenn I was learning and had a too small prop. Maybe the weight is higher than I suppose :/ It was super hard, but she is super repairable! I would do this in one evening. I have crashed so many planes and fixed some impossible edfs crashes xD Thanks for the video!!
This was a shock to me my friend. But I did already fix it.
@@PetrincicBrosRCyou are the man! Looping forward for the next flight! And make that test with more height, maybe after shooting one video just in case 🤣 This summer I passed Slowenia and I would love to stay there, next time!! :D Also following your cycling pros 👌🏼
Tooth picks, foam glue, acrylic paint. Some birds dont work wit 3d more of a scale flyer.👍
Its fixed and ready my friend 👍
@@PetrincicBrosRC Excellent. 😎