Triumph 1200 GT Pro. First Impressions.
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2023
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Hello, I'm Jack Porter. I'm an independent, unbiased and unpaid UA-camr. The views expressed in my videos are entirely my own, arrived at through the experience I'm having at the time. I have no affiliation of any kind to any of the dealerships or manufacturers of bikes I ride other than my own BMW 1250 GS.
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Helmet camera. GoPro Hero 10.
Video performance - Activity
Resolution - 2.7k
Frames per second - 120
View - Superview
Hypersmooth - Boost
Scheduled capture - Off
Duration - No limit
Hindsight - Off
Timer - Off
Zoom - 1.0 x
Protune
Bit rate - High
Shutter - Auto
EV Comp - -0.5
White balance - Auto
ISO min - 100
ISO max - 6400
Sharpness - High
Colour - Vibrant
Raw audio - Off
Wind - On
Media mod - Camera mics
I use only 256gb Sandisk Extreme for this camera as it consumes space at double the rate of the Hero 7. If you are like me, I try to never turn the camera off when I’m out as you can guarantee that’s when something will happen and you’ll miss it. You will require 2 x 256gb cards for a full days riding if you’re on tour.
GoPro Camera Settings
Handlebar camera. GoPro Hero 7.
Resolution - 2.7k
Frames per second - 120
View - Superview
Low light - Auto
Stabilisation - Auto
Protune - On
Shutter - Auto
EV Compensation - -0.5
White balance - Auto
ISO min - 100
ISO max - 6400
Sharpness - High
Colour - GoPro
Raw audio - Off
Mics - Stereo
I use either 128gb Sandisk Ultra or 256gb Sandisk Extreme SD cards. (I find the quality equally as good whether I use the Ultra or the Extreme cards.)
When using the hand held camera I set the lens view to Wide.
GoPro Hero 10. Settings for ND Filters.
Res/FPS - 4k/25
Lens - Superview
Hypersmooth - Standard
Scheduled capture - Off
Duration - No limit
Hindsight - Off
Timer - Off
Zoom - 1.0x
Protune
Bit Rate - High
Shutter - 1/50
EV Comp - N/A
White Balance - Auto
ISO Min - 100
ISO Max - 100 (This is correct)
Sharpness - Med
Colour - Natural
Raw Audio - Off
Wind - On
Med Mod - Front
GoPro Hero 7. Settings for ND Filters.
Res/FPS - 4k/24
FoV - Superview
Low Light - N/A
Stabilisation - Auto
Protune - On
Shutter - 1/48
EV Comp - N/A
White Balance - Auto
ISO Min - 100
ISO Max - 100
Sharpness - Medium
Colour - GoPro
RAW Audio - Off
Mics - Stereo - Авто та транспорт
I ride a 2016 Explorer XRT and with the low seat it’s 820mm height. Love the bike, but if I need to replace it the new version is just too tall. I know there is a low version but you lose the convenience of the center stand. My bike has been 100% reliable and I tour on her annually. At 73 I still love to ride, but I would love a 900 GT with a belt or shaft drive. All the best!
Thanks for the review Jack.
A great well balanced review Jack.
Thank you Damian 👍
Love the bike and your take on it brilliant work again. The bikes people ride will always be personal choice. Doesn’t stop you admiring other makes and people’s choices. Stay safe and keep up the good work. On an other note I’m 135 days dry.
Thanks Martin, I ride bikes as a neutral. It doesn’t matter what bike I have in my garage, I’m never really satisfied and I’m always looking for the next one. Therefore, it’s a test ride with a serious view to whether I really want it. I’d definitely have a GT Pro…… for a while! 😉😂👍 well done with the abstinence. Do you feel better for it?
@@motomogul yes feel much better for not drinking, weight loss better sleep. I tested the GS but it wasn’t for me still like them though, judging people on what they ride isn’t something I read and have left groups because of it. I nod to all bikers no matter what they ride.
@@martinbrown197 Same here 👍
135 days dry? You must live somewhere with better weather than the UK? Oh...hang on I get what you are on about,LOL!
Great review ,totally agree with what you say about height of bikes ,do think manufacturers are missing opportunity there.
I only have a 28" inside leg and ride 1200gs with a touratech extra low seat and can just get away with..keep up the great work.
Rich
Will do, thanks Rich 👍
great review bud 👍
Cheers Dale 👍
Great review Sir.
Thanks Paul 👍
A short bit of background. I’m in my late 60s and haven’t ridden for 42 years! The 70s were my era. I still have my Ducati 750 Sport that I purchased in 1974. I’ve beat myself up over the years and now have a few replacement parts I need to respect. From mountain biking and skiing I backed of a bit and picked up a 2022 Tiger 900 GT Pro. I live in an Idaho ski town with limited pavement but I still love the pavement so didn’t go for the Rally. I’m your size and that was a factor as well. I have Dunlop Trail Max Missions and spend more than half my time on gravel. Riding like a civilized old man. I get on this bike and it’s like a magic carpet! I can flat foot and pass like a demon. Those big bikes are for big young punks and they’ll have an absolute hoot on them.
Couldn’t agree more Bob. I met a guy yesterday who was 6’7” and we were talking about bikes. I said that I’d finally met the person Triumph had in mind when they designed those huge horses! 🤔👍
Great review, Jack, seriously considering the GT Pro, after riding the Rally Pro- which I can flat foot even with the seat in high pos. The Rally was great fun, but still feel a little intimidated by it, as it's tall and heavy compared to my Tiger 800. Feels really nimble, but wrong-foot it and it's going over, especially if you're of 'racing snake' build like I am 😞 My only dislike of the Rally Pro is the screen, it's crap, lots of wind buffeting in high or low position. Anyway, keep 'em coming! PS Pidcock, not Pidcocks, no bloody 's' at the end! ;-)
It’s a great bike. I’m sure you’d get used to the weight if you owned one. Not as top heavy as the previous Tiger 1050 Sport which is a plus. You would get used to the power too I’m sure.
If you’re considering one but you don’t like the screen, have a look on the forums to see what owners are doing about that issue. Also check eBay to see if there are any aftermarket options.
Don’t forget to mention me at PidcockS if you buy one from there 😉👍😂
The proof in the pudding is long term ownership and that's bring 'dealers' into question which is where - in my experience owning a 2012 Explorer - Triumph have struggled vs. BMW. The service I've had from Motorrad has outclassed Triumph although at ABR last year, when test riding the best of the bunch (1290 SA-S, V2 and V4 MS and the Triumph) I was very impressed with the Tiger 1200 and that was the Explorer version, so keep up the good work Hinckley!!
Another cracking video jack. I have the Rally Explorer, and i run the seat on the high setting!! I am 6'5" however. It is a very tall bike. I had GS's for over 10 years, and its the m/cycle journalists who keep calling out the lastest GS killer. Ridiculous! They are all great bikes. That GT pro does suit you though mate. And how is your collar after having it felt, Ha Ha. Thank you
I did love the bike but I wouldn’t part with my GS for it. Both great in their own ways. Those policemen were great guys. And he’d heard of my channel. Bonus! 👍😂🏍️
I think they could have done better from the previous model but I’m impressed they are not scared of the competition. I lowered my 2015 a few inches (not the best thing to do) but it is the bike I have always needed. If ethereum comes through like it should next year I’ll probably switch to the GS to be honest. I also added a Corbin, best thing I’ve ever done to any bike.
Given the performance of ethereum over the last year I’m guessing you never did switch to a GS 😜
Great review of what is largely a great bike. I had a Triumph Rally Explorer as a courtesy bike last year while my 2014 Triumph Explorer XC was in with my local Triumph dealer, have to say that with the seat in the highest position its absolutely perfect for me but then I am 6'5, loved the riding position on it, didnt want to give it back. Although i wasn't keen on the T-plane crank, prefer the engine in my bike and the screen need to be at least 6 inches higher and a bit wider, I did have a lot of buffeting on it. Also I despise keyless bikes and cars, give me a normal key that stays in the ignition where it wont fall out of pockets.
I met a guy last week through my work who was 6’5”, and said to him that I’ve now met the guy that bike was designed for.
Don’t you think the T-plane sound would grow on you? It does have a fabulous growl. I can see it’s not for everyone but it does make the engine response more immediate too.
With regards to the screen, all manufacturers put a shorter screen on their most off-road biased machines to prevent you getting hit in the face or neck when you hit a compression that throws the screen towards you and you towards it. But I agree, really annoying at all other times.
Thanks for taking the time to comment Gavin, much appreciated 👍
@@motomogul yeah, I probably would get used to the engine eventually, it did respond quickly and seemed to pull like a train but I do prefer the smoother more balanced old engine, under hard acceleration the T-plane engine almost felt it had a misfire but cruising it was ok.
As for the screen, it's not really a problem, there are plenty of places that you could get a bigger touring type screen from so I could easily sort out the buffeting.
If I had a spare £20k sitting around, would I buy one?....... yeah i probably, it is a cracking bike overall.
@@EmeraldExplorer1200 That price though 😖 Lots of tech but only for the fully loaded.
@@motomogul it's certainly one I'll consider when the time come to change my current bike but will be looking at a low mileage secondhand bike that will be about 8 years old. Price is way over my budget.
Well would you swop the GS ? I am looking to upgrade my BMW RS and need a view of what to move to next.
I’d give it another look if I was considering a new bike but definitely not yet. The RS and the GS take some beating though. Not sure the Triumph would take the place of my GS.
The title of your vid says GS killer (which you dealt with in the video i.e. daft label put about by journo’s). Am I write in thinking the “Mixed Emotions” part of the title relates solely to the height of the off road version and possibly this one albeit to a lesser extent? The rest of the bike for British potholed roads checks out perfectly - fair interpretation?
I’m seriously considering this very version, I’m 6’ but my inside leg same as yours 31 inches lol, so it’s not only short arses that suffer this length in leg problem (although my feet are size 12) which probably helps ha.
Can I also ask if you thought it suffered from vibration issues how did you find it?
Great review - enjoyed it👍
Yes, a very fair interpretation Andrew. The Mixed Emotions statement was just a bit of fun. I was putting Rolling Stones song titles on the thumbnails and waiting to see who’d be the first to notice. In a roundabout way, you are the winner 🏆 Sorry for any confusion. It’s a great bike 👍
Sorry, meant to add, you do get some vibrations through the rev range but I didn’t think it was too intrusive. Maybe long term might affect your feelings towards it but my GS vibrates too. I don’t see it as a problem 👍
@@motomogul Rolling Stones song titles nice one 🤣, I’ve just put in a bid on an ex demo (low’ish offer) just waiting to see if I can snag a bargain - I haven’t even ridden one yet but that’s not unusual for me thanks for the reply
How’s the maintenance,12,000 miles for valves on the beamer is not good 😎🏍️💨💨💨💨💨👍🏻🇨🇦
20,000 miles for valves on the Triumph John 👍
I ride and own a Harley Davidson Roadglide and I want this bike so bad!
As well as your Harley? It is a great bike 👍
Yes would love to have both in the stable but the boss lady might protest😅
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20:00 US cops would have had you face down on the concrete and cuffed before you had time to say "good morning officers" lol
Some of your officers are a bit on the brutal side. Although, to be fair to them, I’ve seen videos where they are really polite and respectful too.
No it's not a GS killer but it is more fun to ride.
It was definitely a bit more nimble than my GS but it’s not as complete as an all-rounder. The GT is great on-road but no off-road capability and the Rally is just too tall for people. Long way to go tone a GS killer I think 🤔 👍
No we’re not all short-arses! At long last a bike for tall people!!!😀