Never realised how much of an issue the Husqvarna/KTM airbox's were until I saw this video. well worth considering even if you don't do a lot of offroad work!
This is one of the best installation videos I’ve seen anywhere! Clear, concise instructions delivered with camera angles that actually show what’s going on. Great work. I’m on the fence about this product and have nearly purchased it twice now but am concerned about drilling holes into the air box! That just seems like a potential ingress point for dust once the screws get enough jostling from the power plate. I’m trying to work out a way to install this without going through the air box. I might try gluing studs in those places that can take thumb screws. .. or am I worried for no reason.
You are definitely worried for no reason. We have sold 1,000's of these and what you mentioned is not an issue whatsoever. If you are truly concerned you can simply replace the wood screws with regular screws with nylock nuts on the inside of the airbox but again, this isn't really a thing. We would recommend getting the kit and if for some reason once you see it you are genuinely concerned you can send it back but we really don't see that happening we are that confident.
Glad to hear it! There should have been a card in your box with a QR code that includes a link (once scanned) to all of the install instructions for our parts on the website. Apologies if that was not included in the box. For any Rottweiler Performance parts, visit our website and click the "Instructions" tab and then just scroll down to the part you are installing for instructions or videos. Thanks for your purchase!
still waiting for my intake for the 901 ........ and i think the cannister/smog delete kit , already recieved the cat delete mid pipe arrow ti silencer and power commander 👍👍
You definitely don't want to install the snorkels. We don't say to do that in this video or in the instructions (for anyone else reading), but the PowerPlate is designed to be snorkel free.
heck with that just do the whole intake kit. my norden runs like a champ now !! crazy quick revving bike all uncorked👍👍👍👍😊😊😁😁 , and the Arrow mid pipe & ti silencer sound awesome
That would certainly be the next step! These are great for powering up your filtration capabilities, but for the big horsepower gains the full system is certainly the way to go. www.rottweilerperformance.com/fuel-air-24/
@@RottweilerPerformance got it did the whole nine yards at the first service , waiting for your 'Hyperpro' spring kit to be available for it as that'll be next
I just picked up a 2020 790 with your prefilter set up. I will keep it on but will need extra filters. The surface area is small and in dusty conditions will plug up in a half day on some of my rides. Just went to your store and see you requirement changing once a day. Good call. I will buy 5 dual foam elements.
It's more of a suggestion than a rule really, but depending on the riding you do it's never a bad idea. Here is the link! www.rottweilerperformance.com/rottweiler-performance-replacement-filters-for-790-890-901-adventure-power-plate/
Great video and outstanding products. I have ordered quite a bit from you gents and just installed the airbox filter kit! Looking forward to our Alaska trip in July!!! 10,000 miles on my Nordern 901 Expedition!! All ready to go! Just waiting on the front High fender kit that is back ordered! Cheers and many many thanks! Aaron Hagar. 2455 Old Soda Springs rd. Napa, CA. 94558
Just got my 901, already had the power plate, but snorkels we still installed pushing the foam into the air box, not correct right? I'll buy a new filter I guess
We actually haven't but would probably not recommend that. It's an interesting idea for sure, but the design is made to be more of a pre staged filtering device rather than a main filter. If you are looking for big power gains, we would recommend the full intake system linked below. That system has a triple stage filter and a lot of surface area for filtration combined with big power gains from the shape of our airbox design. www.rottweilerperformance.com/fuel-air-24/
I installed this kit but had the filter orientation wrong, thanks for the video.! Question: The kit came with 2 extra thumb nuts, nice add. Because the threads lack locking elements do you purpose these in the kit becuase its likely to fall off in service?
Thanks Mike! Yeah, we add the extra thumb nuts so that if for any reason they get misplaced, you will have backup. We've had pretty good luck with ours staying on even during service, but it never hurts to have a spare!
Hey Mike! Yes, these filters are reusable. We also sell just the filters by themselves on our website as well: www.rottweilerperformance.com/rottweiler-performance-replacement-filters-for-790-890-901-adventure-power-plate/
I have running issues now I have fitted the power plate There is a small lag on the throttle response from shut throttle, and it seems to lack a bit of power Also get popping bangs on deceleration which tells me it’s lean ? Hope you can help Regards Tom
I’m new to KTM/Norden What I could not understand from this video (which is very easy to follow) is why is this needed? It seems like you put an extra filter before the stock one. And why is it called power plate? Thanks
We call them Power Plates because they power up your filtration capabilities. The stock air boxes on KTM’s are notorious for letting dust by the paper filter, and this product acts as a pre filter for the paper filter without choking out your intake system and reducing horsepower like some of the factory KTM solutions can. You can easily carry spare filters as well and change them on the trail with ease.
@@RottweilerPerformance thanks for this explanation. I was going to ask the same question. I'm not an experienced rider, much less an off-road one but I love to learn about the engineering and tweaks. Your videos are top notch, well-explained, and orgnized (love the task/time breakdowns provided). That, along with the products you make and how you feature your employees, ...just an impressive company from my perspective. Thank you.
@@bikeover Thank you Mark! That means the world to us. We have a great crew and are working our butts off to make this the best company in the biz and your comments just add fuel to that fire. ❤🔥
My buddy uses one and recommended it. However mine is a 2023 cfmoto Ibex 800 T. My air box is way different. Do you make one that fits the 800 ? Thanks
What about the power restriction once all this foam is added is this not going to restrict air intake even further. This foam oiled filter is going to help with dust particles, but shouldn’t the stock air filter inside be replaced with some kind of high airflow type filter so it can suck in a bit more air and increase the amount of airflow to further increase the power and smoothness of the power delivery?
This is 'PRE' filter, but we don't see any further danger from water than stock to be honest. Stock has the open snorkels, this replaces them with foam closer to the rear of the airbox so you are probably better off with the Power Plate in wet conditions when compared to stock. The snorkels will just deliver the water to the airbox where the Power Plate should hinder water a bit.
Hi, I am going to order one for my Norden Expedition, but I have two questions, one of them ¿it could be a problem to cut the excess filter "ears" on the sides? And the second one, I have instead of the OEM paper filter the foam filter from Twin Air, but I have seen that you use OEM paper, do you think the paper one it would perform better in terms of performance and protection with your Power plate? Thanks so much for your time ;-)
Just did the install! Thanks so much for an awesome product and video showing install. Love my products from you guys! Brake master cylinder guard, power plate, skid plate, and six lights! You guys rock! 1320 North 600 East suite #2 Logan, UT 84341
The same exact thing that would happen in stock form. The air-box would fill with water. The difference is with this system is that A) you can clean out the air box without needing any tools to get to the stock filter and B) if the stock paper filter is waterlogged, you can remove it and rely on the power plate filtering to get you home in an emergency.
Because you need to make sure there are no plastic shavings that have dropped into the airbox after the screws are wound in. There shouldn't be because nothing is drilled, but just in case.
@@RottweilerPerformance got it - thanks for a quick reply...I will prbbly not touch my airbox - thinking a tiny plastic shaving would have zero impact inside the engine anyway (contrary to the dust around the airbox).
@@michail1963 It's easy enough to pull out, but either way you'll be fine. The screws just thread in and push plastic out of the way and don't really 'shave' anything off. They are like the plastic screws KTM uses here and there that are like wood screws.
If i put your 2 stage airbox's in and put on a decat - do I need to get a powercommander too? Or can I get away with the factory tune. I'm using factory muffler
Need and want are different here. Do you need a Power Commander on models 790 and above? No, they self tune themselves to a 14.7 air fuel ratio and keep things in check pretty well. That being said, if you are looking to exploit all the power you can on this model, the Power Commander is highly recommended. We have some pretty amazing tunes for that bike that will really add rideability as well as gobs of power. Either way, you are good to go. Just depends on what your budget will allow and what you are willing to install.
@@RottweilerPerformanceI spoke to Tanner today via chat, we were discussing the PC, my concern is heat, so I'm purchasing the arrow decat, in your opinion, will it run $500 significantly cooler 😂with the PC as compared to if I let it tune it's self after decat? Ty for your time
I saw on your site it's not legal in California, but do you know/have some customer in EU specially in Sweden that install this and pass the yearly vehicle check?
We don't have that info unfortunately. There are so many countries with so many different regulations it's hard to keep up but these are completely hidden on the bike and if they are checking exhaust gasses you can zero out the unit temporarily by saving the original map on your computer, taking all the map values to zero and resending the map and it will output exactly the same as stock as there are no modifications to the map happening when they are all zero. When you are done just plug in your PC, re-upload the map that was previously saved and you are back in business. It's really that easy. We can't openly condone breaking any regulations though. That will of course be up to your discretion.
@@kamezodo Anything can. You can modify that bike blue in the face and the narrow band O2's will always do a fantastic job at keeping the bike at 14.7 air fuel ratio. Remapping is always good, but not mandatory. Can be done later or not at all. You are good. There are many misconceptions about how fueling works these days and there isn't much you can do wrong, or at least less wrong than with carburetors.
@@reecewarfield8726 Ah, didn’t catch that part being this video is 901 Norden related. In that case yes, it would be. The good news is that the Duke being a street bike isn’t seeing nearly the same filtering challenges that and adventure bike would likely see, so we are much more comfortable converting that to the main filter which gives the user more tunability with air flow and the 3 filters they come with.
Never realised how much of an issue the Husqvarna/KTM airbox's were until I saw this video. well worth considering even if you don't do a lot of offroad work!
Funny that the video is 9:01 long! Thanks for a great video, ordered my kit today! 🔥👍🏻😎
We are detail oriented people. 😅
This is one of the best installation videos I’ve seen anywhere! Clear, concise instructions delivered with camera angles that actually show what’s going on. Great work.
I’m on the fence about this product and have nearly purchased it twice now but am concerned about drilling holes into the air box! That just seems like a potential ingress point for dust once the screws get enough jostling from the power plate. I’m trying to work out a way to install this without going through the air box. I might try gluing studs in those places that can take thumb screws. .. or am I worried for no reason.
You are definitely worried for no reason. We have sold 1,000's of these and what you mentioned is not an issue whatsoever. If you are truly concerned you can simply replace the wood screws with regular screws with nylock nuts on the inside of the airbox but again, this isn't really a thing. We would recommend getting the kit and if for some reason once you see it you are genuinely concerned you can send it back but we really don't see that happening we are that confident.
Thank you! This was super helpful (especially considering there were no installation instructions in the box).
Glad to hear it! There should have been a card in your box with a QR code that includes a link (once scanned) to all of the install instructions for our parts on the website. Apologies if that was not included in the box. For any Rottweiler Performance parts, visit our website and click the "Instructions" tab and then just scroll down to the part you are installing for instructions or videos. Thanks for your purchase!
still waiting for my intake for the 901 ........ and i think the cannister/smog delete kit , already recieved the cat delete mid pipe arrow ti silencer and power commander 👍👍
You definitely don't want to install the snorkels. We don't say to do that in this video or in the instructions (for anyone else reading), but the PowerPlate is designed to be snorkel free.
heck with that just do the whole intake kit. my norden runs like a champ now !! crazy quick revving bike all uncorked👍👍👍👍😊😊😁😁 , and the Arrow mid pipe & ti silencer sound awesome
That would certainly be the next step! These are great for powering up your filtration capabilities, but for the big horsepower gains the full system is certainly the way to go. www.rottweilerperformance.com/fuel-air-24/
@@RottweilerPerformance got it did the whole nine yards at the first service , waiting for your 'Hyperpro' spring kit to be available for it as that'll be next
I just picked up a 2020 790 with your prefilter set up. I will keep it on but will need extra filters. The surface area is small and in dusty conditions will plug up in a half day on some of my rides. Just went to your store and see you requirement changing once a day. Good call. I will buy 5 dual foam elements.
It's more of a suggestion than a rule really, but depending on the riding you do it's never a bad idea. Here is the link! www.rottweilerperformance.com/rottweiler-performance-replacement-filters-for-790-890-901-adventure-power-plate/
So that's how that works... ingenious!
Getting the new '23 Expedition in a few weeks =- = this is on my list of must have's ---- great video.!!
Glad you liked it! Thank you for commenting!
Looks like a great product, I just ordered one! Say, is there an outwears cover available to help keep out water?
Great video and outstanding products. I have ordered quite a bit from you gents and just installed the airbox filter kit! Looking forward to our Alaska trip in July!!! 10,000 miles on my Nordern 901 Expedition!! All ready to go! Just waiting on the front High fender kit that is back ordered! Cheers and many many thanks! Aaron Hagar. 2455 Old Soda Springs rd.
Napa, CA. 94558
Just got my 901, already had the power plate, but snorkels we still installed pushing the foam into the air box, not correct right? I'll buy a new filter I guess
Thank you. Really helpful 🎉
Hopefully more of these coming soon!
Did you tested dynotested this plate without the paper filter ? Couls it be a alternative to stock filter ?
Thanks for the contents, you guys rock !
We actually haven't but would probably not recommend that. It's an interesting idea for sure, but the design is made to be more of a pre staged filtering device rather than a main filter. If you are looking for big power gains, we would recommend the full intake system linked below. That system has a triple stage filter and a lot of surface area for filtration combined with big power gains from the shape of our airbox design.
www.rottweilerperformance.com/fuel-air-24/
I installed this kit but had the filter orientation wrong, thanks for the video.!
Question: The kit came with 2 extra thumb nuts, nice add. Because the threads lack locking elements do you purpose these in the kit becuase its likely to fall off in service?
Thanks Mike! Yeah, we add the extra thumb nuts so that if for any reason they get misplaced, you will have backup. We've had pretty good luck with ours staying on even during service, but it never hurts to have a spare!
Can the filters be washed and reused? I'm thinking this is a great idea for my new Norden. Thanks for creating such great videos....very useful :)
Hey Mike! Yes, these filters are reusable. We also sell just the filters by themselves on our website as well: www.rottweilerperformance.com/rottweiler-performance-replacement-filters-for-790-890-901-adventure-power-plate/
I have running issues now I have fitted the power plate
There is a small lag on the throttle response from shut throttle, and it seems to lack a bit of power
Also get popping bangs on deceleration which tells me it’s lean ?
Hope you can help
Regards Tom
I’m new to KTM/Norden
What I could not understand from this video (which is very easy to follow) is why is this needed?
It seems like you put an extra filter before the stock one. And why is it called power plate?
Thanks
We call them Power Plates because they power up your filtration capabilities. The stock air boxes on KTM’s are notorious for letting dust by the paper filter, and this product acts as a pre filter for the paper filter without choking out your intake system and reducing horsepower like some of the factory KTM solutions can. You can easily carry spare filters as well and change them on the trail with ease.
@@RottweilerPerformance thanks for this explanation. I was going to ask the same question. I'm not an experienced rider, much less an off-road one but I love to learn about the engineering and tweaks. Your videos are top notch, well-explained, and orgnized (love the task/time breakdowns provided). That, along with the products you make and how you feature your employees, ...just an impressive company from my perspective. Thank you.
@@bikeover Thank you Mark! That means the world to us. We have a great crew and are working our butts off to make this the best company in the biz and your comments just add fuel to that fire. ❤🔥
My buddy uses one and recommended it. However mine is a 2023 cfmoto Ibex 800 T. My air box is way different. Do you make one that fits the 800 ? Thanks
Unfortunately we do not if the airbox is every different. We don't get those over here in the U.S. so it's hard for us to do any R&D on them.
@@RottweilerPerformance they do sell them here in the States as a CFMoto Ibex 800 starting in 2023.
@@DubuqueDude As soon as we can get our hands on one we will certainly look into it!
What about the power restriction once all this foam is added is this not going to restrict air intake even further. This foam oiled filter is going to help with dust particles, but shouldn’t the stock air filter inside be replaced with some kind of high airflow type filter so it can suck in a bit more air and increase the amount of airflow to further increase the power and smoothness of the power delivery?
That's not a bad idea at all. It's not mandatory by any means but would certainly work in conjunction with the Power Plate system for sure.
Do you recommend this for Florida wet conditions? I’m concerned about water intrusion into engine. Thanks
This is 'PRE' filter, but we don't see any further danger from water than stock to be honest. Stock has the open snorkels, this replaces them with foam closer to the rear of the airbox so you are probably better off with the Power Plate in wet conditions when compared to stock. The snorkels will just deliver the water to the airbox where the Power Plate should hinder water a bit.
Great video👍
Thank you! Glad you liked it!
Gracias por esta clara exposición !
¡ningún problema! de nada
just ordered this kit :-)
Awesome! Thanks so much for the support. Enjoy!
It looks like the air box is securely attache to the subframe. I would think a floating airbox would be better if the subframe becomes tweaked.
Hi, I am going to order one for my Norden Expedition, but I have two questions, one of them ¿it could be a problem to cut the excess filter "ears" on the sides? And the second one, I have instead of the OEM paper filter the foam filter from Twin Air, but I have seen that you use OEM paper, do you think the paper one it would perform better in terms of performance and protection with your Power plate?
Thanks so much for your time ;-)
Not nocking the product and I am totally buying this but couldn't you just rubber band some oiled filter skins over the end of the snorkles?
Hey I just ordered this power plate and am installing now I see there are two holes in the bottom of the air box I wonder if they could be closed off
Those don't need to be. They are just water drain holes. You could close them off if you aren't submerging your bike.
Just did the install! Thanks so much for an awesome product and video showing install. Love my products from you guys! Brake master cylinder guard, power plate, skid plate, and six lights! You guys rock! 1320 North 600 East suite #2 Logan, UT 84341
How can we not LOVE that comment. Thank you so much for being a great customer and loving our products.
Thanks
No, thank you!
one very simple question, what happen if you lay down bike in the river?
The same exact thing that would happen in stock form. The air-box would fill with water. The difference is with this system is that A) you can clean out the air box without needing any tools to get to the stock filter and B) if the stock paper filter is waterlogged, you can remove it and rely on the power plate filtering to get you home in an emergency.
Why do you need to remove the stock filter for the installation?
Because you need to make sure there are no plastic shavings that have dropped into the airbox after the screws are wound in. There shouldn't be because nothing is drilled, but just in case.
@@RottweilerPerformance got it - thanks for a quick reply...I will prbbly not touch my airbox - thinking a tiny plastic shaving would have zero impact inside the engine anyway (contrary to the dust around the airbox).
@@michail1963 It's easy enough to pull out, but either way you'll be fine. The screws just thread in and push plastic out of the way and don't really 'shave' anything off. They are like the plastic screws KTM uses here and there that are like wood screws.
That key is $24,500 in Ecuador...
If i put your 2 stage airbox's in and put on a decat - do I need to get a powercommander too? Or can I get away with the factory tune. I'm using factory muffler
Need and want are different here. Do you need a Power Commander on models 790 and above? No, they self tune themselves to a 14.7 air fuel ratio and keep things in check pretty well. That being said, if you are looking to exploit all the power you can on this model, the Power Commander is highly recommended. We have some pretty amazing tunes for that bike that will really add rideability as well as gobs of power. Either way, you are good to go. Just depends on what your budget will allow and what you are willing to install.
@@RottweilerPerformanceI spoke to Tanner today via chat, we were discussing the PC, my concern is heat, so I'm purchasing the arrow decat, in your opinion, will it run $500 significantly cooler 😂with the PC as compared to if I let it tune it's self after decat? Ty for your time
Does this interfere with putting the seat in the lower position?
Not at all! This is a very low profile mod but great question regardless.
I saw on your site it's not legal in California, but do you know/have some customer in EU specially in Sweden that install this and pass the yearly vehicle check?
We don't have that info unfortunately. There are so many countries with so many different regulations it's hard to keep up but these are completely hidden on the bike and if they are checking exhaust gasses you can zero out the unit temporarily by saving the original map on your computer, taking all the map values to zero and resending the map and it will output exactly the same as stock as there are no modifications to the map happening when they are all zero. When you are done just plug in your PC, re-upload the map that was previously saved and you are back in business. It's really that easy. We can't openly condone breaking any regulations though. That will of course be up to your discretion.
@@RottweilerPerformance thanks for the detailed response. The power plate can be used w/o remap, right?
@@kamezodo Anything can. You can modify that bike blue in the face and the narrow band O2's will always do a fantastic job at keeping the bike at 14.7 air fuel ratio. Remapping is always good, but not mandatory. Can be done later or not at all. You are good. There are many misconceptions about how fueling works these days and there isn't much you can do wrong, or at least less wrong than with carburetors.
If this is post filter and less resistance wouldnt that become the main air filter?
This is pre filter. On the Duke models they are post filter.
@@RottweilerPerformance I was referring to the Duke
@@reecewarfield8726 Ah, didn’t catch that part being this video is 901 Norden related. In that case yes, it would be. The good news is that the Duke being a street bike isn’t seeing nearly the same filtering challenges that and adventure bike would likely see, so we are much more comfortable converting that to the main filter which gives the user more tunability with air flow and the 3 filters they come with.