Flux Core Welding 101 - Self Shielded VS Dual Shielded

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  • Опубліковано 7 лип 2024
  • Jason Becker explains the big differences between self and dual-shielded flux core welding.
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    Time Codes
    00:00 Introduction
    00:49 The Difference Between Self And Dual-Shielded FCAW
    03:44 Wire Specifications
    05:10 Setting Up Your Machine
    06:34 Best Practices For Self-Shielded FCAW
    07:30 How Does Self-Shielded FCAW Run?
    08:24 Fixing Work Angle And Travel Speed
    10:13 Switching Over To Dual-Shielded FCAW
    11:33 Best Practices For Dual-Shielded FCAW
    12:30 How Does Dual-Shielded FCAW Run?
    13:13 How Hard Is It To Weld Dual-Shielded FCAW?
    13:35 What Happens If You Run Dual-Shielded FCAW With No Gas?
    14:33 What Happens If You Run Self-Shielded FCAW With Gas?
    15:40 Pros And Cons For Self-Shielded And Dual-Shielded FCAW
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 69

  • @ktmturbo5836
    @ktmturbo5836 12 днів тому +13

    Yeah red beard is back. And dont be afraid of taking gas shielded outside. We do it all the time. It can be quite windy outside. As long as you stand with the wind at your back and cover with your body. We use the Kemppi evo 200 one phase machine and run 1 mm 0.0394 3/64 ″ wire. Now Kemppi has the new evo 220amp one phase This can run 1.2mm wire

  • @lonnygehring3043
    @lonnygehring3043 11 днів тому +4

    Jason is the best. Explains things so well. Humble and doesn't try to BS people.

  • @walter2990
    @walter2990 11 днів тому +5

    I'll be saving this video, so that I can refer back to it when I have the time to digest it completely. Thanks for posting this!

    • @Welddotcom
      @Welddotcom  11 днів тому +3

      Absolutely, hope it is helpful.

  • @luisvega1294
    @luisvega1294 12 днів тому +11

    Red beard! He made the channel worth watching!!

    • @ktmturbo5836
      @ktmturbo5836 12 днів тому +2

      Yes indeed I stopped watching video after he disappeared

  • @dillongunter1321
    @dillongunter1321 11 днів тому +2

    I am currently an ironworker apprentice, and fully certified, gasless flux core was definitely not my favorite but in the field it self is a huge help because your not lugging around bottles, makes life a little easier. Love the videos btw💯

    • @Welddotcom
      @Welddotcom  11 днів тому

      Yeah cutting the need to carry a gas bottle around opens up a whole world.

  • @cutl00senc
    @cutl00senc 12 днів тому +4

    I got my AWS certification in 2012. I wish I could have had this channel in my toolbox back then…sure would have made it easier!

    • @ypaulbrown
      @ypaulbrown 11 днів тому

      you got that right....

    • @Welddotcom
      @Welddotcom  11 днів тому

      We are just out here trying to help get more people interested in welding a answer questions along the way.

  • @melgross
    @melgross 11 днів тому +2

    Really happy to see Jason.

    • @Welddotcom
      @Welddotcom  11 днів тому +1

      That man is full of Welding knowledge!

  • @sheridanblackley9394
    @sheridanblackley9394 10 днів тому

    The best example of this on the net. Awesome work boys

  • @JohnChuprun
    @JohnChuprun 11 днів тому +2

    Jason's the best! He's sharp and into the science of this stuff.

    • @Welddotcom
      @Welddotcom  11 днів тому +1

      He has a ton of knowledge on all kinds of stuff and happy he could help explain FCAW.

  • @rudyrivera7426
    @rudyrivera7426 12 днів тому +2

    Great video! Very informative and educational! Thanks for sharing! 👌👍

  • @metalheartmachine
    @metalheartmachine 12 днів тому +1

    Thank you for thorough. Professional explanation.

  • @jackjmaheriii
    @jackjmaheriii 12 днів тому +1

    I use gas shield flux core exclusively, and I love it because it’s so easy. I’ve bent tested and cut-and-polish tested a bunch of my welds and they’re rock solid. And I use a Yeswelder so it’s not high end equipment. It’s probably the most versatile process for the guy who wants to weld steel at home.

    • @timblack33
      @timblack33 11 днів тому

      Do you have any issues with wormhole porosity on a machine that size? What wire do you use

    • @jackjmaheriii
      @jackjmaheriii 11 днів тому +1

      I used to, but once I started cleaning the weld area with a wire wheel the problem fixed itself. I’ve been using Blue Demon .035 but when it’s gone I’m going to give the Lincoln a shot.

  • @darenscott1718
    @darenscott1718 11 днів тому +1

    Hell yeah Jason is the man! Always super informative, presentation is always easy to understand, and a joy to watch. Unlike the chuckle head who thinks he's a comedian channeling Bob Ross. I wish Jason had the time to do this full time!

    • @Welddotcom
      @Welddotcom  11 днів тому

      Happy to work with Jason any time we can.

  • @manyhammers5944
    @manyhammers5944 12 днів тому +1

    FCAW rocks,Dual shield rocks a bit harder.
    I remember back in the day when folks,non welders said fcaw isn't good for structural welds,22 years later I would have to disagree.
    Nothing broke yet.

  • @tonyturner487
    @tonyturner487 7 днів тому

    Another reason for the gas-shielding in dual shield wire is the arc will cause the gas to ionize across the arc stream giving you a “hotter”, higher penetrating arc.

  • @roberthoy9922
    @roberthoy9922 11 днів тому +1

    I heard you say “sometimes” when you spoke of flux core used in structural work. It’s the most common used. 3” flange column, spices using Lincoln electric 232 fluxcore 072. An LN 25 and a gas drive Lincoln 350. Bring your lunch baby gonna be there a while.

    • @Welddotcom
      @Welddotcom  11 днів тому

      That will take awhile indeed, might need to pack 2 lunches.

    • @roberthoy9922
      @roberthoy9922 11 днів тому +1

      @@Welddotcom yup. Time for a mail box. Most of your 8 hour day will be right there sitting on your bucket welding 2’ above slab. Don’t forget your weed burner and temp stick. I’ve got more than a 1000 full pen welds in my career and have never had a cut out. I love being a local 29 Ironworker. But now I’m retired and now I will be going full time custom building cars and motorcycles.

  • @morgansword
    @morgansword 11 днів тому +1

    Many years ago, I was a welder on the gas lines in Prudoe Bay alaska and also welded for Todd ship yards in Ketchikan. Musta burnt about a school bus load of rod... sure would of enjoyed a mig back then. They had some wire feed machines but I was told I had to be certified to use them.

    • @Welddotcom
      @Welddotcom  11 днів тому

      Yeah the speed at which you can weld with FCAW compared to SMAW is pretty wild.

    • @bryanst.martin7134
      @bryanst.martin7134 8 днів тому +1

      I worked for a steel boat company and they were stick all the way. I was an electrician but welded my own racks. I asked the owner why he hadn't gone mig as it was far better in production than stick swapping. Checked in on him a couple years later and he had included MIG. Seemed to improve construction a bit. Can't use it in small spaces and backside of pipes in corners, but it was a big plus on hull and stringers. (Especially on the 100'+ boats)

  • @M4BHoward
    @M4BHoward 6 днів тому

    2:50
    Dual Shield. The flux is essentially a heavy deoxidizing agent that rips through millscale like nobody's business, floating it to the top in the slag (which slag also helps support the puddle out of position.) Shield 1.
    Shield 2, keep the atmosphere from destroying the weld. The flux isn't designed to do that; that's where the gas shielding comes in.
    Dual shield.

  • @_hector__
    @_hector__ 11 днів тому +1

    With those self shielded passes, it seems to me that you either turn up the settings so you can get a flatter weld for that type of thickness or do more up and down manipulation as you travel

    • @Welddotcom
      @Welddotcom  11 днів тому

      Thanks for the tip I will have to see if I can get a flatter one like that.

  • @kevinhintz1903
    @kevinhintz1903 12 днів тому

    Very Kool, and informative!

  • @wargamingsupernoob
    @wargamingsupernoob 8 днів тому +1

    The only things I gotta say yall missed was 1) when he asked about the first pass on the 1/2" plate, Jason shouldve told him to turn the volts up. 2) running gas on self shielded wire is not only wasting gas, it might be detrimental to the strength of the weld. The alloys and deoxydizers in the flux werent designed to have shielding gas, so they're fighting that additional unnecessary contamination.

    • @donsmith9081
      @donsmith9081 2 дні тому +1

      I believe he was doing it to have a little fun experiment.

    • @wargamingsupernoob
      @wargamingsupernoob День тому

      @@donsmith9081 Sure. I'm all for an experiment. However, some people may not know what I said and something critical could fail and/or someone could get hurt or die. That was my only concern. I only know what I do because I was taught in school and apply that knowledge at work with adjustments from the more experienced guys that have been held to much higher standards than myself.

    • @donsmith9081
      @donsmith9081 День тому +1

      @@wargamingsupernoob I Appreciate your reply. Lets hope those people know enough to stay away from all critical welding until they know what they are doing.

  • @morgansword
    @morgansword 12 днів тому

    Haven't commented in some time as my health tends to tell me when or not to do stuff. I have straight up envy of your table. I am pushing seventy five right soon and just wish we had tools and machines like this in the sixties and even up to eighties. I really don't know when these new machines came to be but golly whiz, nice welds and little efforts for nice looking great welds. Other day I seen my landlord trying to use a torch and couldn't keep my trap shut. He blows off at me and said if you can do better then hop to it. I told him to hang onto my suspenders so I don't get to be a part of it. He had metal starting to warp and nasty looking jagged looking cuts going. He also had been at it for around fifteen minutes and was getting nowhere fast. It took me more time to clean the tip, do a little prep and then slick as a whistle sliced off the offending metal he was messing up. My cut looked like a plasma cut and no slag, just straight and sweet! He looks at me and just shook his head, where did you learn all this? Oh about forty some years ago we had to buy oxygen and acetylene plus it came from the main land so getting tanks out on a job site was right expensive. Best learn quick or learn how to use a hack saw..... he is now asking me to teach him. I just wish tho I had a better memory as I have seen the newer welders that have a great many functions that are right at the fingertips.

    • @ktmturbo5836
      @ktmturbo5836 12 днів тому +1

      Nice story never underestimate an older gentleman. Especially not with suspenders.

    • @_hector__
      @_hector__ 11 днів тому +1

      😂😂

    • @melgross
      @melgross 11 днів тому +1

      I started in 1973. Boy, the machines are sooo much better. I know some guys who huff and puff when they say they prefer an old transformer machine. But as far as I’m concerned, they can all be thrown off the boat and used to build a reef. I also like ESAB these days. I’ve got a 205 and am very happy with it. My Siegmund table is also much better than tables back then too.

    • @melgross
      @melgross 11 днів тому +3

      I started in 1973. Boy, the machines are sooo much better. I know some guys who huff and puff when they say they prefer an old transformer machine. But as far as I’m concerned, they can all be thrown off the boat and used to build a reef. I also like ESAB these days. I’ve got a 205 and am very happy with it. My Siegmund table is also much better than tables back then too.

  • @lorenhenderson2900
    @lorenhenderson2900 12 днів тому +2

    Dual shield gets you sexy welds flat like a bead of calk and it is more forgiving then 232 self shielded you can push or pull

    • @ktmturbo5836
      @ktmturbo5836 12 днів тому +1

      No problem to push but have you seen the test video where they show penetration test of push vs pull?

  • @danielking8862
    @danielking8862 12 днів тому +1

    Good to see red on the show

    • @Welddotcom
      @Welddotcom  11 днів тому +1

      Always a treat to work with Jason

  • @peetky8645
    @peetky8645 12 днів тому +4

    red beard returns

  • @Cruellers4Life
    @Cruellers4Life 10 днів тому

    Nice Exento LowVac you guys got there! Review soon?

  • @williamthomas9463
    @williamthomas9463 11 днів тому +1

    The flux in dual shield facilitates running out of position as the slag actually freezes before the molten weld pool. Also, I’m guessing, the flux contains iron powder therefore increasing deposition rates. I run a ton of it and always say that if you can’t run vertical up and overhead with dual shield, you better find a new profession.

    • @Welddotcom
      @Welddotcom  11 днів тому

      Dual Shield defiantly is super easy to pick up and don't think enough people know about the benefits.

  • @Failure_Is_An_Option
    @Failure_Is_An_Option 11 днів тому +1

    I hear ESAB still has not toned down their turbines.

  • @dewayne2189
    @dewayne2189 7 днів тому

    I ran both running it with 75/25 gas is better to me then the gas being inside the wire

  • @truethinker68
    @truethinker68 8 днів тому

    Can dual sheild use 92 argon/8 co2?

  • @woodswalker2919
    @woodswalker2919 6 днів тому

    You told us the voltage 26 but didn’t mention the wire speed ? What wire speed ?

  • @joshuapeabody2581
    @joshuapeabody2581 12 днів тому +1

    I do believe dual shield, the gas acts as a coolant for the gun.... I'm not super sure.

    • @ktmturbo5836
      @ktmturbo5836 12 днів тому +2

      Cooling of torch is just an exstra bennefit of the cold gas. But main reason is to protect weld against oxygen. But the gas also affects penetration. The slag helps to suck out Contaminants from the weld. And it works as a mold when you do position welds.

  • @user-tj4vz7gg8m
    @user-tj4vz7gg8m 12 днів тому +1

    관우인줄?

  • @eriklarsen7358
    @eriklarsen7358 10 днів тому

    Dual shield has huge deposit rates

  • @Phantom-mk4kp
    @Phantom-mk4kp 12 днів тому

    Clean shirt, new shoes
    And I don't know where I am goin' to
    Silk suit, black tie (black tie)
    I don't need a reason why
    They come runnin' just as fast as they can
    'Cause every girl crazy 'bout a sharp-dressed man

    • @Welddotcom
      @Welddotcom  11 днів тому +1

      That weld's "got legs, and knows how to use them"

  • @proyevividig
    @proyevividig 11 днів тому

    💯💯💯💯💯💯

  • @jamesscully7108
    @jamesscully7108 10 днів тому +1

    👀🇮🇪⚓

  • @manyhammers5944
    @manyhammers5944 12 днів тому +2

    I hate MiG, outdoors it is junk. Looks like a sponge.
    fcaw gas or no looks ,smells and tastes like full pen. Just sayin'.
    Dang ole shit ain't broke yet!

    • @ktmturbo5836
      @ktmturbo5836 12 днів тому +2

      We do alot of welding outside using dual shield. Of course not when the wind is hurricane force.
      But as long as you manage to position yourself so that the wind is at your back, it can withstand an incredible amount of wind. I prefer to weld with wire rather than electrodes.