@joaosturza o yeah realistically that super destroyer is toast the second it enters orbit. Not only is it probably gonna break some very important laws by firing on space station thinking there Atomatons to having no defense against netrunners and Ai that ship is falling out of the sky like that one ending in cyberpunk 2077
@@joaosturza back in the lore of helldivers no their tech has ice stronger than the black wall because they already went through an ai revolution they bitch slapped it and said sit down
Reapers: several ships to damage a city. Helldivers: bombard the moon just to celebrate liberty day. The behavior of Helldivers alone tells a lot about the threat they are.
It’s probably going to fail, honestly. Making a functioning government isn’t the easiest thing to do, especially if it’s a worldwide government and I don’t think there’s any political expert or something like that on that super destroyer. The whole thing going to fall down the superdestroyer isn’t in a working condition and people realize it.
@@kmdgaming6039 I love spreading misinformation on the internet. The percent regen on enemy planets can't be outpaced by a single helldiver, no matter how determined. Also good luck finding a planet that literally noone is fighting on already
I feel like a helldiver would if it is required to spread democracy. Remember the main reason super earth hated the cyborgs was because they were filthy socialist commies. The cyborgs also made their own separate government, and wanted to control cyberstan for themselves which didn’t go over well with super earth. Because of how dedicated helldivers are to super earth they would probably feel it’s a necessary evil.
@@yorukage5926helldivers would likely chrome up if they believe it is required to spread democracy. The reason super earth fought the cyborgs was because they were filthy socialist commies. The cyborgs also wanted to control cyberstan for themselves which didn’t go over well with super earth. A non communist helldiver likely wouldn’t have many issues with it as long as they don’t go overboard with modifications and become basically Adam smasher.
Helldiver lands in cyberpunk gets disgusted at people looking like automatons gets in a shootout with the authorities and promptly gets killed by maxtac as they blitz him with sandevistans
Helldiver lands on cyberpunk, gets disgusted at people looking like automatons, throws a 380 barrage on the ground killing and wounding hundreds of people, leveling a place for an extraction zone. Throws down an autocannon sentry as the authorities try and respond in a timely manner, by flying. Thier ships are weaker than autonomation armor, completely shredded due to the autocannon sentry. They try an approach by foot, if the autocannon doesn't do the trick, the shield bubble and HMG emplacement will. Pelican1 comes down picking up the Diver. It's not that hard to imagine how things will go down, the sheer destructive force of a single helldiver is enough to level night city, and that single helldiver, isn't so single as there are many in cryogenic sleep ready to replace him, not ask questions, and kill anything around them.
@ that’s assuming the super destroyer isn’t completely nuked out of orbit as I doubt the USIA or Arasaka want a heavily armed battleship glassing one of there premier cities, it’s only a matter of time until a police/maxtac sniper lines up a shot and blows the helldivers head off with a railgun He still can’t stop sandevistans either, they could dodge bullets and simply surround him and empty a entire mag in the back of his head like the cyberpsycho in edgerunners intro Plus it’s night city they probably have anti aircraft platforms and weapons just lying around in the badlands and the city, the pelican would get shot down within minutes if it tried to provide support let alone land A final possibility is net runners hack into the super destroyer and cause it to explode through system malfunctions like a hellbomb since they are activated through a electronic interface
@@greatjagras6381 a LITERAL netrunner will literally destroy the diver and the super destroyer. Good luck throwing things down when your systems are hacked lmao
Since the recent update you've been able to talk to that one lady on your super destroyer again and something she said made me wonder just how good life on Super Earth is. It was something about dissidents burning down a factory and the dissidents claiming it was an accident due to unsafe working conditions. In order words Super Earth citizens are forced to work in hellish conditions without any safety protocols and when something inevitably goes wrong the government says no it's not because your workplace sucks that happened, dissidents did it. And this is just one aspect of Super Earth society. Given how easily brainwashed Super Citizens are and their propensity for never questioning anything they could be unknowingly living in a dystopian nightmare of constant suffering while wrongly thinking dissidents are responsible for all their woes.
Unsafe work conditions doesn’t mean they work in a dystopian Hellscape. It just means safety isn’t a priority which actually makes sense for Super Earth that has self sacrifice for the good of the whole being paramount. Safety precautions lowers productivity. I’ve worked on Construction sites where safety wasn’t a priority and never felt it was a hellscape. Just more dangerous.
@rougarabid But when an accident happened did they acknowledge the unsafe work conditions as the cause or did they lie and say terrorists bombed your construction site? Plus we're not talking about slightly unsafe working conditions for the sake of productivity, we're talking about catastrophically unsafe working conditions that lead to the whole place burning down and killing everyone on site. A society that functions like that is definitely a hellscape.
@@SonicFrakeYep. An accident happened and the government lied about. Totally just something that happens in fiction. The real government wouldn’t do that…
Yeah I'm with Sonic here. The hyper capitalism metaphors kinda make me feel like it is probably not "pretty good" for most people. Hell, child labor is normalized. Not to mention colonists for sure are just being massacred equally by bugs, bots and hell divers. There is a strong ass reason people were down to become cyborg monsters to fight the hell divers.
she told me a story about how when she was a kid, the "super police" (I don't remember what she called them) would give them candy in exchange for the kids telling them what was going on in their households and neighborhoods, such as what people were talking about and stuff. The little bits of lore the people on the ship will drop at random is so interesting
How many allies would Helldiver gain? I feel like that's a factor, because I feel like he can gain "Friends", and once he gains friends, then he'll gain a team. Then group, then a horde, a army, etc etc etc
In Mass Effect, that's Shepard's greatest strength. A Peacemaker. Would he win against a Helldiver 1 on 1. No. Just no. But he wouldn't be alone. The threat would shift from Reapers to Helldiver. And a Helldiver against a whole universe wouldn't win. Not without time to form Super Earth.
What the lore says isn’t all that strong. As I said all the most impressive stuff they have are still limited by real world physics in a way other sci-fi universes aren’t, even in the lore.
@rougarabid I've read the original codex. Humanity stops using chemical propellants weapons because they can't hit hard enough to penetrate Shield technology. Which is the driving force behind virtually all of the helldivers weaponry is chemical propellant. Hell, in the lore The Liberator is using a NATO standard round
The Mass Effect Universe stopped using chemically propelled projectiles because they couldn't get past element zero powered shielding. The had to switch to an element zero powered projectile because it was the only thing that could go fast enough or hard enough to penetrate the shields. Inversely The Liberator rifle from helldivers is canonically said to carry the equivalent of a standard Nato round
@alexfranz817 There kinetic shielding only activates if a projectile exceeds a certain speed. If it worked like you are suggesting, (which it doesn't), then the basic ass husks wouldn't be able to kill anyone as they only melee you to death with their hands. So regular chemical guns should work.
2:50 now im just imagining god emperor john helldiver, i think what would happen is the helldiver would see how messed up and wrong this alternate earth is and he'd go on a mission to "fix" how the world is run ^^ that would be crazy to see as a short story, obviously hed be a dictator.
36:40 Cyberpunk I kinda disagree with for one simple reason, tech. A helldiver will run the shit out of any normal merc, person, most high and mighty people But. If someone high up says, "That guy needs to die, Adam Smasher." The helldiver is probably going to die. Why? Is Adam Jesus? No. 80% of it is simply Sandevestine. If the Helldiver draws too much too quick and someone with enhanced reflex comes up he's dead. And I think that the Helldiver realistically wouldn't be proceeding with allot of caution as to not catch the eyes of the 1%
Unfortunately helldiver won't be able to do much on the ground against heavy hitters of cyberpunk. Like, a random dude with sandevistan and a tech gun would probably be enough to kill him in straight combat
shit man commander sheppard clashing with a helldiver makes for such an awesome image, id wear that shit on a tee shirt man! id say sheppard is so use to dealing with overwelming forces that he would struggle his ass off, but would slowly adapt to fighting things like the atomitons and bugs, he'd have to use a lot of gorilla tactics, traps and reply on his biotic powers to slow and lossen up enemies but eventualy he'd start to close the gap in weapons and yeah, ima give my man a passing grade here, bearly passing but i htink hed make a fine helldiver in terms of can he take out what you send him to take out, i dont hes gonna be super happy with living on super earth though.
Shepard is a well better trained than most US Marines, He's got an arsenal of weapons to choose from, some of the most overpowered Pistols in Gaming, casually punches reporters, Captain's one of the sleekest and sexiest Frigates in Gaming, and can make insane suicide missions look like cakewalks! SHEPARD IS THE MESSIAH!!!
@@BoltzHG Hell even if Garrus dies, there are so many others that take place! Wrex, Grunt, Tali, Liara, Alenko, Massani, Jacob, Javik, so on, so forth!
16:58 Ok, as a science nerd, entering and exiting the atmosphere isn’t a problem if you’re doing it slowly, like the superdestroyer. This is because the danger when entering and exiting the atmosphere comes because of the friction between the atmosphere and the craft at high speed. (Note that it isn’t actually friction that happening, it just that it doesn’t really make a difference)
I know it's nice to imagine that a helldiver would be able to win entire planets, but I think that being cut off from SEAF supply lines would be a major problem for a helldiver. Like, a destroyer only has enough fuel to stay at low orbit for 40 minutes, then it has to ascend in order to escape planets gravity pull and refuel. Same goes for ammo. Resupply pod is unlimited in uses technically, but actually due to cooldown you can only call in 20 resupplys per mission. Same goes for other stratagems. I even think that for obital barrages superdestroyer has to be resupplied for every use of that stratagem. It is common knowledge that wars are won not by weapons, but by logistics.
The Orbital Laser ironically enough is likely the one possible unlimited weapon the Super Destroyer has, despite it's limited uses in game. Assuming it's heatsink is never fried.
I agree with everything up to the mass effect point because if the automatons can shoot down the destroyer I feel like a lot of the ships in mass effect could do so with ease due to their guns firing slugs that pack the force of a nuke at insane speeds, then if the hell divers destroyer ever came close to the Normandy it would be under EDi's control relatively fast. Honestly I feel like the hell divers only real advantage is the speed of his ship because the tech difference and stuff like biotics, and shields would prove problematic.
Heres note in helldivers: E-710 is made when the bugs decay, when the whole body decomposes its becomes E-710, Also this is just a theory, but if a super destroyer itself is able to level a small moon, then what can the super earth navy do, the super destroyer is most likely the most mass produced ship and thus might be much weaker in comparison to other ships, like I have a feeling some of the higher class battleships and carriers probably carry enough to destroy planets
We're making a DSS, Democrocy space station, that it going to store thousands of these ships, carpet bomb planets with eagles, and use nukes on top of what divers can already do. If the super destroyer can level a small moon, this thing might level a large planet.
I assume a super destroyer has something equivalent to a small nuclear arsenal on board. The Earth's moon is actually quite large, a "small moon" would be, at most, continent sized in terms of surface area, and perhaps as small as the land area of Texas or France. A super destroyer spending most of it's ordinance to go scorched earth on Australia/ Texas/ France is certainly impressive, but not exactly planet busting level. I agree on you in terms of the SEAF navy. The Super Destroyer is the ship we see as Helldivers. It's equivalent to an assault carrier, a hybrid of landing craft and small aircraft carrier. The US navy has larger and more powerful ships than these, including some better suited to ship on ship combat, and presumably Super Earth would too. On the high end, Super Earth has the DSS, a colossal warship (given that it's mobile, it's really more of a monitor type warship than a proper station) capable of conducting planetary scale bombardment and possesses hangers capable of launching thousands, perhaps tens of thousands of Eagle class strike fighters. The DSS could almost certainly level the surface of a planet, but this isn't really its mission. The DSS is a tool of liberation to spread managed democracy, not to glass entire planets. It's much more useful and democratic than something like the Death Star from Star Wars, even if it's technically less directly powerful.
Three things to note about the Mass Effect universe that is mostly over looked by everyone. Biotics, no matter how you try to underplay it, are super fucking tide turning, if no one else but YOU can use it (If Shepard went to Helldivers universe, he would be the only biotic to exist). They create black hole/singularities, control gravity, force waves, etc. And that is not including all the tech abilities and soldier abilities. Number 2, for being coming into the Mass Effect Universe (Ship of Helldivers) would have NO defense against indoctrination (Shepard being the only instance we have seen of someone basically being immume until like.. maybe mass effect 3 with those weird nightmares and shit). And it is stated multiple times, by multiple characters that ALL Reaper Tech spews out constant Indoctrination, in which every Reaper can control the speed of how long it takes for someone's mind to crumble. Last but not least is I guess the Crucible/galaxy wide fuck you button that is RED, BLUE or GREEN. That ship and tech the Helldiver is so fond of? Well, with Destroy, it no longer works. With Synthesis, would he still be a fanatic to Super Earth or would his new perspective change with the change within his very mind and DNA? And for control.. Idk, a more concentrated and maneuverable Reaper resistance? Cause in your example, he could one on one take on a reaper ship (Which I don't whole heartedly agree with, but I am not to stick in my ways to say impossible) but there are.. TRILLIONs minimum of Reapers. And it takes entire FLEETS on CONCENTRATED fire to destroy some of the smaller ground force Reapers, let alone something like Sovereign or Harbinger. I would love to hear your thoughts though. This has been my Ted Talk, join me next episode as we discuss Krogan Quads.
@@rougarabid After further thoughts, here is what I think would occur : Cerberus having access to such tech to duplicate (even with the limit of their own technology) would make them dominate galaxy pretty fast, just for the mere cost of pandering the wacko from an alternate universe who more or less share their core ideals. Pretty anticlimatic tbh, good thing you missed it. Happy little accident and all that...
*sees the video’s suggestions for Helldivers and Cyberpunk* “Time to open up fanfiction.” The Helldiver would disappear into the Halo universe. Like he would fit right in.
So just a quick reference. Material is important but also thickness. I bring this up in regards to the Helldiver's armor. It is indeed space grade titanium used for Super Destroyers. But we must bare in mind the plating on the SD is probably incredibly thick. A 1cm thick steel is weaker than 1 foot thick of aluminum. Obviously, the same is true of 1 inch of steel vs 1 foot of steel. So the armor is made of a great material. But due to it needing to fit the Helldiver without encumbering him or her too much they couldn't make it too thick. In modern body armor, look at level 3 armor vs level 4. Level 4 is much thicker, can take much more punishment but it weighs significantly more and sticks out more.
The hell divers have already beaten the illuminate who are much more advanced than the covenant and then turned all of their weapons into war, ships and weapons of war. They have way easier access to shielding John Hell diver exists but not only that they have ships that aren’t just super destroyers. Basically these ships are used by the regular soldiers in holdovers in there just as expensive as a super destroyer which implies they are relative meaning they’re going to have billions of these ships that will be able to gun down the covenant as soon as the covenant lower their shield to start firing and even then super earth will take cover new technology in advance it greatly meaning in the end, hell divers would win just because they have the numbers the weaponry and the adaptation
They could maybe take out a Reaper once it’s on the ground, but in space the super destroyer is very forked, they have next to 0 ship to ship combat capabilities
Would These Invaders (Starcraft) Zerg (Starcraft) Protoss (Halo) Banished (Halo) Covenant (Halo) Flood (Battlestar Galactica) Cylon (Doctor Who) Cybermen (Star Trek) Borg (Star Gate) Replicators (XCOM) Aliens (Stellaris) Prethoryn Scourge (Prey) Typhon (Starship Troopers) Arachnids (The Tomorrow War) White Spikes (Fallout) Zetans (Killzone) Helghast (Destiny) Fallen (Destiny) Vex (Destiny) Cabal (Destiny) Hive (RWBY) Grimm (Bionicle) Bohrok (Resistance) Chimera (Transformers Bayverse) Decepticons (The Mist) Mist (Minecraft Legends) The Leaders and Piglins (Minecraft Dungeons) Heart of Ender and Enderlings (Murder Drones) Cyn/Absolute Solver and Disassembly Drones Survive Helldivers What other invaders should be on this list Edit (Mass Effect) Reapers (The Great Wall) Tao Tei (Warhammer 40k) Orks (Gears of War) Locust (Gears of War) Swarm (Half-Life) Combine (Half-Life) Xen (Opposing Force) Race X (Warhammer 40k) Tyranids (Warhammer 40k) Chaos Daemons (DOOM) Doom Demons (A Quiet Place) Death angels (Skibidi Toilet) Astro Toilets (Sonic) Doctor Eggman and Eggman Empire (Sonic X) Metarex (Warframe) Grineer (Warframe) Corpus (Warframe) Infested (Warframe) Sentient (Doctor Who) Daleks (Doctor Who) Sontarans (Sonic) Black Arms (Command & Conquer) The Brotherhood Of Nod (Command & Conquer:Red Alert) The Soviets (Command & Conquer) The Scrin (Xeelee Sequence) Xeelee (Fallout) Enclave (Fallout) The Master and Super Mutants (PSO2) Falspawns (PSO2:NGS) Starless (Quake) Strogg (Prey 2006) The Keepers and the Sphere (C&C Red Alert 2:YR) Yuri (SMT: Strange Journey) Schwarzwelt (SMT) Law and Chaos Demons (R-Type) Bydo Empire (Captain Power and the Soldiers of the Future) Lord Dread and the Bio-Dread Empire (Warhammer 40K) Necrons (Andromeda) Magog
Tyranids Flood Chaos demons Doom demons Death angels(they kinda count) And finaly this might sound a little bit crazy or unhinged or downright insane but uuuh the astro toilets :/
@@elixavibuddies2951 Death angels would already be unable to survive current day, they just win because plot, the Helldivers would obliterate those suckers
For the killing the floor universe, if it’s modern day and we still have some of yours nuclear ballistic missile, i think we would have a chance. I don’t think a super destroyer could survive a nuke, let alone several. It’s really going to be a question of if the U.S, Russia and other countries with long range nuclear ballistic missile will be willing to risk it. (Also, for the cyberpunk part, I would be hesitant to say that the super earth is a nice place to live. It’s not rare for certain governments to lie about the living conditions of their population irrespective of only showing the nice places, like North Korea where you can only visit a couple of places like Pyongyan. Super earth still use child labor after all. Thought, it wouldn’t surprise me if the entire planet of super earth was one of those place that are nice to live in, even if it’s at the cost of other planets)
Ok but imagine this -The helldiver that goes to the Cyberpunk universe is specifically a first war veteran -he does chrome himself out, however, he is more susceptible to cyberpsychosis. Hallucinations occur such as himself looking at a mirror and seeing an automaton. -his rampage, at it's peak, would result in him willingly going after adam smasher on his own due to his resemblance to a Cyborg That shit would be cool as hell even if the helldiver ended up dead.
Maybe it's something you can do an episode on is how lore appears to be so different than what you see on screen. An astartes is supposed to be a walking war crime but in most gameplay comes off as a marginally scarier human. Your average assault rifle in Mass Effect is supposed to hit like an anti-material rifle and your average spaceship Cannon is supposed to hit with Megaton level yield and yet you never see anything going nuclear and you never see a small pistol blow a guy in half. We also don't actually know anything about naval combat in helldivers so we don't actually know how well those ships are designed for it. Because what you see on screen is basically a glorified FTL capable Specter gunship.
I've been playing thru helldivers and cyberpunk together as a shared universe lately. I think alot of the points you made on the cyberpunk vs helldivers segment were a bit flawed but still was a interesting take to hear
30:20 I think the word you were looking for is "warlord." The Chinese warlords are an example of people who sent armies around China to create as much territory under their own kingdoms as possible. The Empire after Endor had warlords go around the galaxy to try to re-establish the Empire. This is what the Helldiver would probably do.
You forget that the reapers wanted to wipe out targeted types of life, not all life. The reapers were most likely using less power than what they were capable of using. Remember, at the end of the first Mass Effect, only one reaper took out fleets of very powerful ships. That reaper was most likely running of fewms at that point.
Bro, your analysis of Mass Effect is way off. Like to the point that I can confidently say your entire segment about Mass Effect is just wrong. You've made the same statements before in the past but it was a minor thing and I didn't want to be all nit-picky about something that didn't matter in the end but now it's all sorts of relevant to the outcome you're stating. The Reapers aren't at it to destroy all life, they're aiming to harvest organic and inorganic species when they reach a specific point of development. They are stated in game to have nuked several colonies from orbit and just moved on while taking their time on major planets like Earth so they could harvest the inhabitants. A Reaper is also stated to have shields that are 'impervious to dreadnought fire'. A single main cannon round from a Systems Alliance dreadnought in Mass Effect is stated in lore to have a 38.72 kiloton yield upon impacting a target in Mass Effect, and they also stated they did weapons upgrades after that through 2 and 3, which is why their fleets were able to fight the Reapers in 3. The Reaper's main gun, the 'laser' you talked about, is something called a 'magnetohydrodynamic cannon'. I don't fuckin' know the definition, but it basically shoots liquid metal in a stream at a target. The thing is stated to have a yield of 132 to 450 kilotons. The Thanix Cannon installed on the Normandy was calculated, based doff that info, to have a yield of 10 kilotons per shot, which is supposed to be roughly equal to the main cannon on a cruiser. So a cruiser is popping off nuke equivalent shots with each main gun shot. The smallest of Systems Alliance ships use what is essentially the Orbital Rail Cannon strategem as a rapid fire primary weapon in ship to ship combat. Those weapons are secondary weapons on ships frigate, cruiser and up in size. Plus they have shields that are rated to stand up against those weapons. The Super Destroyer in no way, shape, or form has the firepower or defenses needed to stand up to a Mass Effect ship in a firefight. It's just done no matter what it does. For the ground weaponry, based on the effects in game, we can safely assume ME small arms have at least the same amount of impact force as a Helldiver's primary weapons. The thing with the mass effect tech inside it is to make it so that when you aim at a target at a specific range, you do not have to worry about drop, the 'round' that's fired will have the same impact on the target regardless of range, and the operator doesn't need to worry about ammunition, though the subverted that whole fuckin' thing with the whole thermal clips bullshit. The key firepower advantage the Helldiver has is that while his Super Destroyer is there, he can call down strategems and he can get heavy weapons that are, in some cases, superior to what the ME people have without using a mech or vehicle. The major, decisive disadvantage the Helldiver has is that all infantry in Mass Effect has armor as good as his at keeping them alive and more elite units have heavier armor akin as well as shielding. Fighting against ME infantry for the Helldiver would be like fighting the Automatons, except they have shielding and heavier armor that the Helldiver needs to focus down on and pump several magazines of standard ammo into a target in order to kill just one. The Super Destroyer also becomes a disadvantage here for the Helldiver because in all other aspects, the Helldiver is assured of space superiority and having their Super Destroyer ready to support them. In Mass Effect, I don't know if a Super Destroyer could stave off a fighter attack, much less a system patrol ship. If it were more than just the one ship they might fare a little better but nah, gotta say your assessment here is completely wrong.
Agree with almost everything you said. The only point I would disagree with is the super destroyer not having the firepower compared to mass effect ships. It would lose in a space fight because it's not meant for space fighting just for orbital support, so let's get that out of the way. Now, in terms of firepower, if it had space fighting capability, it would have pretty good success based on power alone. You're using kilotons of power for the mass effect verse while a single super destroyer has 4000 MEGATONS of power on board. The issue wouldn't be the lack or power but rather the lack of space fighting capabilities since the ship isn't meant for that.
@@kenethernandez6246 I agree with you. It has 4 gigatons of power *onboard*. However, the weapons that we see on the ship are clearly unable to deliver all of that firepower in a rapid manner. If you were to take the sum total of munitions aboard a Systems Alliance ship, I'm sure you'd be in the gigaton range, just like with the Super Destroyer. It's just the damage per shot is much higher.
@@RedneckRapture Obviously it doesn't have a single projectile with that much power. Do keep in mind tho that the projectiles in game are toned down for gameplay purposes. This always happens when a character or thing is too strong to depict in a playable scenario. Either way it doesn't matter that much like I mentioned since super destroyers are just for orbital support not space fighting.
@@kenethernandez6246 Nah, the game doesn't shirk away from giving you stuff that's very powerful for the hilarity if nothing else. We can agree to disagree on it though, as long as we agree that the instant they release nuclear shells as a strategem, you'll be on the front lines with me dropping it on Freedom's enemies.
@RedneckRapture You can disagree if you want but you'd simply be wrong. Simple example is the 500kg. You wouldn't be able to run 20 meters and be safe from the explosion and survive. You'd get blown to shreds at that distance. You'd need at least like 150 meters minimum to not get deleted instantly and your character would still get heavily injured despite wearing armor. Also, I just realized you said 4 gigatons. Idk where you're getting that but it's not gigatons and it's not 4. It's 4000 megatons. The ship master on the super destroyer says the ship has enough fire power to level a small moon which further supports the 4000 megatons. 4 gigatons would only tickle a moon lmao.
I think they might just think they are on another planet until they learn the truth. Since whatever the community made up is canon, then that means the helldivers care about the SEAF more than their own teammates due to seeing them like a space marine would see a Guardsman. Don't believe me? Go to Super Earth Salute when they talk about adding SEAF troopers to the game in the comments. Although, then again I am not sure if comments like those are included as canon if the community makes up canon and those are individual diver's thoughts.
No not everything put online becomes canon. A lot does if it’s picked up by the community but no not everything. John Helldiver wasn’t canon until Arrowhead made him canon.
The one thing about the reapers i think you hand wave away is that they can instant hack most technology. The citadel races have hardened networks because of their interactions with the geth and other unchecked ais
The Helldiver in Night City would be Johnny Silverhand's best friend. "Arasaka? Let's blow up the whole city!" I can see them side by side as the Helldiver prepares the beacons and Johnny throws them around all willy nilly while reaching the bottom of countless bottles.
Super destroyer:moves towards a group of reapers Reapers hundreds of thousands of miles away:fires megaton level weaponary at the super destroyer destroying it. "welp that was weird" More powerful weaponary isnt gonna mean shit if the ship can still get hit and helldivers having moon wiping fire power as you say they have even though you really havent shown where thats stated. Wont matter when a reaper Canon just gonna pierce through it.
You made all that up. Reapers never fire at anything from that far away, there’s no evidence a Super Destroyer would get destroyed in one shot as they are SIGNIFICANTLY more durable than any ship in ME (ME ships need to decrease their mass to travel above lightspeed so their ship doesn’t get destroyed from the force something the Super Destroyers can do casually) and Super destroyers are considerably faster than Reaper ships. They can casually enter MFTL+ Travel speeds whenever they like where Reapers need Mass Effect Relays to do the same and can only travel in a straight line from a specific point to another specific point. There is 0 question a Super Destroyer is superior to a Reaper.
@@rougarabid okay i was wrong i was thinking in mph when i should have thought about it in miles per second you right they cant fire that far only around thousands of miles that was my mistake The durability stuff is fair but cant a reaper not just attack from above? Arent most weapons on a destroyer like under the ship because they are meant for bombarding?
What if each l helldiver keeps the same brain when he dies? And it’s just transferred to another body? The captain of the ship would always be the same helldiver. And that’s why only one helldiver is deployed from each super destroyer - The brain is always stored on the super destroyer and the only way to really kill him is by destroying the super destroyer
i'm at 4:20, i'll definitly watch the rest it's a fun topic, but let me say this straight : Given how Kriegsmarine officers (German Navy) conducted themselves during WW2, especially the U-boot part of it, there's only two solutions to your thought experiment. Either the Helldiver is very indoctrinated and will go to any lenght to cause any damages until death ensue, or, They surrender their ship and crew to the most advanced "faction" of the region and try to integrate as POWs, like many U-boat crew did during 1945 and the collapse of Germany. Given that Helldivers are indoctrinated continuously from birth onward and all Super-Destroyers has a Democracy Officer aboard to make sure they are as fanatic as we need them to, 99% they go guerilla until they die. edit : or establish SE again, indeed that's an idea !
I think you are underestimating some of cyberpunk here. Some of the speedware (Kerens and sandys, might really level the playing field given how fast people can react/move with them, Even if just in short bursts Also there's the AI angle to consider especially the theories that the corp in charge of night city (nightcorp) is actually run by AI's who would take exception to some outsider trying to take over :O
I currently sit at 1:58 in the video, and just want to voice my initial interpretation on the concept. For one, I don't think having it be just one diver gives a fair pretense. They're meant to fight in groups to accomplish a goal. That said, for two, do they have their ship still? Because that genuinely gives them options. Lastly, I just want to express why "survival" is a tough ask, lol. They are, without question, the indoctrinated cannon fodder of their universe. They are the guardsman of 40K, except they're given a GUARANTEED tank. (AKA their ship) Ramble over.
correction: People are only happy on the planet Super Earth or its surrounding planets. It's basically suicide to become a colonist since they get invaded every other day and super earth only evacuates the valuable ones
I like these scenarios and especially how the helldiver would react in the cyberpunk universe but I don't think it would be easy by any stretch, Strategems might down most enemies but most enemies are faster than a helldiver in general, given that alot of people in cyberpunk can indeed dash and jump spam they should be able to get out of the way, also weapons in cyberpunk are clearly superior when it comes to precision, tech weapons shoot through cover and armor, smart weapons home in on enemies, and they have far more advanced snipers. Overall explosive firepower the helldiver might come through but given some workarounds helldivers can just have their weapons hacked or the super destroyer nuked. not to mention without cyberware a helldiver wouldn't stand a chance against someone using a sandy or a bezerk since the sandy canonically makes you faster than bullets (or even rockets in smashers case) and the bezerk makes you literally invincible for a short to medium period whilst also enhancing all other stats. The helldiver isn't going to like going with cyberware unless he's got injuries and even then he's not going to get his hands on the best stuff unless he's V. Speaking of V, my current build for example could just invis and sandy to get the job done. Gorilla arms punch REALLY hard in some cases and I bet he could just punch right through the helldiver considering what he's capable of against literally all types of artillery in melee alone. I think this fight in particular would be quite believable since V wouldn't see someone trying to invoke a better world, he'd just see the helldiver as raving lunatic trying to invoke another dystopia. Another thing I should mention is adam smasher nor V would go down to even an autocannon, Adam smasher was shown in the anime to take the full force of gravity manipulating tech that completely crushed tanks into dust the game version of adam even in his current state is nothing compared to his lore feats of taking down armies in seconds if that. Another thing to mention is that cyberpsychosis is a real thing, it's even included as a perk you can use to amp your stats at the expense of other things. This is shown to be a thing throughout most if not all cyberpunk media, were many character succumb to the overwhelming amount of strain each extra bity of cyberware has on the CNS, certain factors can reduce you risk of this like growing up in a loving home like David did but generally it's down to how well built you are mentally and physically. The are exceptions to this like in the case of Adam in which he is known as a high functioning cyberpsycho due to his pre-existing sadistic and psychopathic nature he is basically already there so the added strain his cyberware has on his brain is less in comparison. I have to also mention that a helldiver canonically only survives about 2 mins on average in their own universe against much weaker enemies than what is seen in cyberpunk, unless you are the top 0.0001% like general Brasch or John helldiver they don't stand a chance and even if they are these guys, somebody with a sandy would kill them easily even if they somehow break their moral code beyond having cybernetics for their injuries. The helldivers deal with immense odds but automatons are slow with limited proof they can sustain much damage without dying apart from hulks and striders, helldivers rely on their strategems too much to deal with their enemies to be considered competent without them and those wouldn't work against much in cyberpunk since they are pretty easily avoidable by helldivers themselves who are really slow, and finally they probably wouldn't last long enough in their spouts about Super-Earth to people before they are shut up by any gangs nearby that don't want to hear their rambling. I love Helldivers but they wouldn't stand a chance in cyberpunk. This is a complete mismatch.
Dude, your analysis of the Helldiver's weapons is waaay off. We know exactly how strong most of them are. The wiki gives us their calibers, weights, and velocities, and they're pretty underwhelming. Their standard issue rifle is barely any better then a current day M4. The anti-material rifle is basically just a .50 bmg. Adam Smasher would sqaush the Diver like a bug. Sheperd would beat them with ease considering he has shields and biotics and they usually dont. You also forgot to consider if the Super Destroyer has shields, because if it doesn't, then it will much easier to destroy.
Some advice. If a wiki doesn’t have a reference to where it got its information, it’s bullshit. The calibers for these weapons have never been stated by the developers or any other official source. The Anti Material Rifle can shoot through well over a foot of plated armor in game something no .50 BMG can do.
@@rougarabid since most already established lore from the Helldivers wiki comes from Helldivers 1 and Helldivers 2 doesn't contradict the original lore from Helldivers 1 you're clearly either wrong and won't admit it or you're arguing in bad faith. By the way I know you're wrong because the Super Earth in Helldivers 2 isn't the real (Super) Earth because it's an entirely different planet since at the end of the first Helldivers Super Earth got blown up!
@@sparrowsbewertungen6930 just speaking as som1 whose studying yhe different factions using mostly info provided by the ministry of truth, not saying i am one just saying there r those who dont believe in evrything is all.
@@sparrowsbewertungen6930 then put the government on the watchlist since i learned it from them, or shall we forget this conversation happened instead?
It would be interesting if we explored Fallout armies, poat-game, and put them in different universes like the, the Chosen One's Arroyo, Courier Six'sMojave army, the Lone Survivors Boston Minutemen army, & even the Fallout 76 Vault Dwellers
helldiver arrives in cyberpunk starts messing around and one day some hacker group or rogue A.I. shuts down life support on his ship or sends it crashing down .
I'd say the whole thing of Ashley is more of a joke now because she lacks much else for character traits. It does actually make her have more defining traits than what's his name.
I believe that Automaton troops in general are better fighters than most Droid troops, but in terms of space warfare and numbers, CIS may have a significant advantage.
@@LipeSun the thing is you forget a significant factor the automatons are just gonna start using the metal from the droids to make more automatons. They’re going to take the technology from the droids and make it better. The ships they’re going to make it better they’re just gonna make everything better. Not only that they actually do have warships that are actually pretty insane. Plus, we’ve actually never seen their full size. They actually may have more troops, than the droids if this is Star Wars. Because I don’t know what CIS stands for I’m dumb
@carlosvicenty-9856 I agree with most of what you said, I'm just not sure about the part about improving technology, since all the technology the Automatons have is actually a relatively worse version of Super Earth technology, and CIS are the separatists from Star Wars
I can just imagine a helldiver becoming a batman like figure and become a hero to the citizens of night city and taking down arasaka and making night city not so depressing anymore like godamn😭😭😭
Please make a video where two or more heroes or factions from different universes fight against a galactic or even universal threat. For example, Helldivers and Halo against gray goo (self-replicating nanomachines).
Gotta keep the Helldiver train going…
Hell yeah
In that case
Would Adam Smasher from Cyberpunk Edgerunner survive Helldivers?
no,just no
honestly id love to see some videos that are about the enemy factions in helldivers and not just the helldivers themselves
We love you roland
The Helldiver will arrive in the Cyberpunk-verse and think he landed on a Cyborg planet in his own universe at first lol
"I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON BUT AS LONG AS I GOT AMMO THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH!"
wonder if his ship can be hacked by the gazzilion AIs and hackers that exist in the internet
@joaosturza o yeah realistically that super destroyer is toast the second it enters orbit. Not only is it probably gonna break some very important laws by firing on space station thinking there Atomatons to having no defense against netrunners and Ai that ship is falling out of the sky like that one ending in cyberpunk 2077
@@joaosturza back in the lore of helldivers no their tech has ice stronger than the black wall because they already went through an ai revolution they bitch slapped it and said sit down
He should be good as long as he doesn’t abbreviate cyberpunk
Reapers: several ships to damage a city.
Helldivers: bombard the moon just to celebrate liberty day.
The behavior of Helldivers alone tells a lot about the threat they are.
not a very large threat
FOR SUPER EARTH!!!!!!
@DirkNowitskii-x3g only when there aren't many, if there are multiple they get dangerous, their number to danger chart can go from 0 to 100 very fast
Helldivers outside of their universe making it their goal to Make Earth Super Again is fantastic
11:23 ah, just like in real life!
It’s probably going to fail, honestly.
Making a functioning government isn’t the easiest thing to do, especially if it’s a worldwide government and I don’t think there’s any political expert or something like that on that super destroyer.
The whole thing going to fall down the superdestroyer isn’t in a working condition and people realize it.
@@Mastercheapnothing is impossible for democracy
@@IamAlleycat For managed democracy!
fun fact there is an official character named john helldiver who took on a planet and liberated it in a couple days....alone.
Fun Fact: Apparently there was a PLAYER that spent all their time doing missions on the same planet and eventually got it to 100% BY THEMSELVES.
@@kmdgaming6039 damn, how many days he took to conquer a planet?
@@kmdgaming6039 TF
@@kmdgaming6039 I love spreading misinformation on the internet. The percent regen on enemy planets can't be outpaced by a single helldiver, no matter how determined. Also good luck finding a planet that literally noone is fighting on already
He talked about him in the last video
A helldiver deciding to “chrome the fuck up” would be awesome
And terrifying. They would probably be able to go full V, solely based on their mentality.
Highly functional psychopaths for Democracy.
A Helldiver would never chrome up. That would literally make them a cyborg one of their greatest enemies
I feel like a helldiver would if it is required to spread democracy. Remember the main reason super earth hated the cyborgs was because they were filthy socialist commies. The cyborgs also made their own separate government, and wanted to control cyberstan for themselves which didn’t go over well with super earth. Because of how dedicated helldivers are to super earth they would probably feel it’s a necessary evil.
@@yorukage5926helldivers would likely chrome up if they believe it is required to spread democracy. The reason super earth fought the cyborgs was because they were filthy socialist commies. The cyborgs also wanted to control cyberstan for themselves which didn’t go over well with super earth. A non communist helldiver likely wouldn’t have many issues with it as long as they don’t go overboard with modifications and become basically Adam smasher.
@@yorukage5926nah, servo assisted exist, they'd totally upgrade themselves although to a certain extend.
Lets not forget the near infinite supply of Stims.
Remember! They are non addictive as well
@@alexgutierrez3780The Ministry of Science made sure of it.
Helldiver lands in cyberpunk gets disgusted at people looking like automatons gets in a shootout with the authorities and promptly gets killed by maxtac as they blitz him with sandevistans
Helldiver lands on cyberpunk, gets disgusted at people looking like automatons, throws a 380 barrage on the ground killing and wounding hundreds of people, leveling a place for an extraction zone.
Throws down an autocannon sentry as the authorities try and respond in a timely manner, by flying. Thier ships are weaker than autonomation armor, completely shredded due to the autocannon sentry. They try an approach by foot, if the autocannon doesn't do the trick, the shield bubble and HMG emplacement will. Pelican1 comes down picking up the Diver.
It's not that hard to imagine how things will go down, the sheer destructive force of a single helldiver is enough to level night city, and that single helldiver, isn't so single as there are many in cryogenic sleep ready to replace him, not ask questions, and kill anything around them.
@ that’s assuming the super destroyer isn’t completely nuked out of orbit as I doubt the USIA or Arasaka want a heavily armed battleship glassing one of there premier cities, it’s only a matter of time until a police/maxtac sniper lines up a shot and blows the helldivers head off with a railgun
He still can’t stop sandevistans either, they could dodge bullets and simply surround him and empty a entire mag in the back of his head like the cyberpsycho in edgerunners intro
Plus it’s night city they probably have anti aircraft platforms and weapons just lying around in the badlands and the city, the pelican would get shot down within minutes if it tried to provide support let alone land
A final possibility is net runners hack into the super destroyer and cause it to explode through system malfunctions like a hellbomb since they are activated through a electronic interface
@@greatjagras6381 a LITERAL netrunner will literally destroy the diver and the super destroyer. Good luck throwing things down when your systems are hacked lmao
@@pingus9934last i checked super destroyers don't use wifi
@@pingus9934 Super Destroyers would not be connected to another earth's internet silly.
Democracy officer about to pull a speech out of there ass to spread managed democracy to all these universes
Since the recent update you've been able to talk to that one lady on your super destroyer again and something she said made me wonder just how good life on Super Earth is. It was something about dissidents burning down a factory and the dissidents claiming it was an accident due to unsafe working conditions. In order words Super Earth citizens are forced to work in hellish conditions without any safety protocols and when something inevitably goes wrong the government says no it's not because your workplace sucks that happened, dissidents did it. And this is just one aspect of Super Earth society. Given how easily brainwashed Super Citizens are and their propensity for never questioning anything they could be unknowingly living in a dystopian nightmare of constant suffering while wrongly thinking dissidents are responsible for all their woes.
Unsafe work conditions doesn’t mean they work in a dystopian Hellscape. It just means safety isn’t a priority which actually makes sense for Super Earth that has self sacrifice for the good of the whole being paramount. Safety precautions lowers productivity. I’ve worked on Construction sites where safety wasn’t a priority and never felt it was a hellscape. Just more dangerous.
@rougarabid But when an accident happened did they acknowledge the unsafe work conditions as the cause or did they lie and say terrorists bombed your construction site? Plus we're not talking about slightly unsafe working conditions for the sake of productivity, we're talking about catastrophically unsafe working conditions that lead to the whole place burning down and killing everyone on site. A society that functions like that is definitely a hellscape.
@@SonicFrakeYep. An accident happened and the government lied about. Totally just something that happens in fiction. The real government wouldn’t do that…
Yeah I'm with Sonic here. The hyper capitalism metaphors kinda make me feel like it is probably not "pretty good" for most people. Hell, child labor is normalized. Not to mention colonists for sure are just being massacred equally by bugs, bots and hell divers. There is a strong ass reason people were down to become cyborg monsters to fight the hell divers.
she told me a story about how when she was a kid, the "super police" (I don't remember what she called them) would give them candy in exchange for the kids telling them what was going on in their households and neighborhoods, such as what people were talking about and stuff. The little bits of lore the people on the ship will drop at random is so interesting
Wow. I never thought I would be so entranced by the story implications of a Helldiver’s fanatical and suicidal nature.
How many allies would Helldiver gain? I feel like that's a factor, because I feel like he can gain "Friends", and once he gains friends, then he'll gain a team. Then group, then a horde, a army, etc etc etc
All my fellas!
The helldiver would 100% gain allies in like cyberpunk talking about how he can make the world better. Unintentionally making like a suicide cult.
In Mass Effect, that's Shepard's greatest strength. A Peacemaker. Would he win against a Helldiver 1 on 1. No. Just no.
But he wouldn't be alone. The threat would shift from Reapers to Helldiver. And a Helldiver against a whole universe wouldn't win. Not without time to form Super Earth.
@@VATROU He would probably gain followers by taking out the reapers
**Rock & Stone intensifies**
I think the biggest problem for Mass Effect is that what the lore says and what you see on screen are two very different things
What the lore says isn’t all that strong. As I said all the most impressive stuff they have are still limited by real world physics in a way other sci-fi universes aren’t, even in the lore.
@rougarabid I've read the original codex. Humanity stops using chemical propellants weapons because they can't hit hard enough to penetrate Shield technology. Which is the driving force behind virtually all of the helldivers weaponry is chemical propellant. Hell, in the lore The Liberator is using a NATO standard round
The Mass Effect Universe stopped using chemically propelled projectiles because they couldn't get past element zero powered shielding. The had to switch to an element zero powered projectile because it was the only thing that could go fast enough or hard enough to penetrate the shields. Inversely The Liberator rifle from helldivers is canonically said to carry the equivalent of a standard Nato round
@alexfranz817 There kinetic shielding only activates if a projectile exceeds a certain speed. If it worked like you are suggesting, (which it doesn't), then the basic ass husks wouldn't be able to kill anyone as they only melee you to death with their hands. So regular chemical guns should work.
@darkshado124 again. What the Codex say and what you see on screen are two completely different things
2:50 now im just imagining god emperor john helldiver, i think what would happen is the helldiver would see how messed up and wrong this alternate earth is and he'd go on a mission to "fix" how the world is run ^^ that would be crazy to see as a short story, obviously hed be a dictator.
36:40
Cyberpunk I kinda disagree with for one simple reason, tech. A helldiver will run the shit out of any normal merc, person, most high and mighty people
But. If someone high up says, "That guy needs to die, Adam Smasher." The helldiver is probably going to die. Why? Is Adam Jesus? No. 80% of it is simply Sandevestine. If the Helldiver draws too much too quick and someone with enhanced reflex comes up he's dead. And I think that the Helldiver realistically wouldn't be proceeding with allot of caution as to not catch the eyes of the 1%
Helldiver has some much faster weapons tho also he’d probably get sandevistan too
Unfortunately helldiver won't be able to do much on the ground against heavy hitters of cyberpunk. Like, a random dude with sandevistan and a tech gun would probably be enough to kill him in straight combat
shit man commander sheppard clashing with a helldiver makes for such an awesome image, id wear that shit on a tee shirt man! id say sheppard is so use to dealing with overwelming forces that he would struggle his ass off, but would slowly adapt to fighting things like the atomitons and bugs, he'd have to use a lot of gorilla tactics, traps and reply on his biotic powers to slow and lossen up enemies but eventualy he'd start to close the gap in weapons and yeah, ima give my man a passing grade here, bearly passing but i htink hed make a fine helldiver in terms of can he take out what you send him to take out, i dont hes gonna be super happy with living on super earth though.
Shepard is a well better trained than most US Marines, He's got an arsenal of weapons to choose from, some of the most overpowered Pistols in Gaming, casually punches reporters, Captain's one of the sleekest and sexiest Frigates in Gaming, and can make insane suicide missions look like cakewalks! SHEPARD IS THE MESSIAH!!!
@@Emolt76 If Shepard fails we've got Garrus
Said Garrus comes with:
Assault Rifles Skill: Weapons damage +50%
AP Ammo: Health&Damage skill +50%
Armor Bonus: Weapon Damage: +20%
Extended Barrel V: Weapon Damage +25%
Turian Rebel skin: Weapon damage +100%
Aaaannndd...
The N7 Typhoon V.
@@BoltzHG Hell even if Garrus dies, there are so many others that take place! Wrex, Grunt, Tali, Liara, Alenko, Massani, Jacob, Javik, so on, so forth!
I would imagine the Helldiver would join up with Cerberus, possibly taking it in a new more extreme direction.
I feel like Cerberus with Helldiver tech would be able to win against the Galaxy.
16:58 Ok, as a science nerd, entering and exiting the atmosphere isn’t a problem if you’re doing it slowly, like the superdestroyer.
This is because the danger when entering and exiting the atmosphere comes because of the friction between the atmosphere and the craft at high speed.
(Note that it isn’t actually friction that happening, it just that it doesn’t really make a difference)
I know it's nice to imagine that a helldiver would be able to win entire planets, but I think that being cut off from SEAF supply lines would be a major problem for a helldiver. Like, a destroyer only has enough fuel to stay at low orbit for 40 minutes, then it has to ascend in order to escape planets gravity pull and refuel. Same goes for ammo. Resupply pod is unlimited in uses technically, but actually due to cooldown you can only call in 20 resupplys per mission. Same goes for other stratagems. I even think that for obital barrages superdestroyer has to be resupplied for every use of that stratagem. It is common knowledge that wars are won not by weapons, but by logistics.
The Orbital Laser ironically enough is likely the one possible unlimited weapon the Super Destroyer has, despite it's limited uses in game. Assuming it's heatsink is never fried.
Remember, the one making the call is the democracy officer
I agree with everything up to the mass effect point because if the automatons can shoot down the destroyer I feel like a lot of the ships in mass effect could do so with ease due to their guns firing slugs that pack the force of a nuke at insane speeds, then if the hell divers destroyer ever came close to the Normandy it would be under EDi's control relatively fast.
Honestly I feel like the hell divers only real advantage is the speed of his ship because the tech difference and stuff like biotics, and shields would prove problematic.
Heres note in helldivers: E-710 is made when the bugs decay, when the whole body decomposes its becomes E-710,
Also this is just a theory, but if a super destroyer itself is able to level a small moon, then what can the super earth navy do, the super destroyer is most likely the most mass produced ship and thus might be much weaker in comparison to other ships, like I have a feeling some of the higher class battleships and carriers probably carry enough to destroy planets
We're making a DSS, Democrocy space station, that it going to store thousands of these ships, carpet bomb planets with eagles, and use nukes on top of what divers can already do. If the super destroyer can level a small moon, this thing might level a large planet.
I assume a super destroyer has something equivalent to a small nuclear arsenal on board. The Earth's moon is actually quite large, a "small moon" would be, at most, continent sized in terms of surface area, and perhaps as small as the land area of Texas or France. A super destroyer spending most of it's ordinance to go scorched earth on Australia/ Texas/ France is certainly impressive, but not exactly planet busting level.
I agree on you in terms of the SEAF navy. The Super Destroyer is the ship we see as Helldivers. It's equivalent to an assault carrier, a hybrid of landing craft and small aircraft carrier. The US navy has larger and more powerful ships than these, including some better suited to ship on ship combat, and presumably Super Earth would too.
On the high end, Super Earth has the DSS, a colossal warship (given that it's mobile, it's really more of a monitor type warship than a proper station) capable of conducting planetary scale bombardment and possesses hangers capable of launching thousands, perhaps tens of thousands of Eagle class strike fighters. The DSS could almost certainly level the surface of a planet, but this isn't really its mission. The DSS is a tool of liberation to spread managed democracy, not to glass entire planets. It's much more useful and democratic than something like the Death Star from Star Wars, even if it's technically less directly powerful.
13:25
Adam Smasher : Who da fuk are you?
JOHN HELLDIVER : LIBERTY
*Democracy intensifies *
Oh god, imagine a Helldiver with a button of Cybernetics and some of those crazy weapons that Cyperpunk citizens have
Three things to note about the Mass Effect universe that is mostly over looked by everyone. Biotics, no matter how you try to underplay it, are super fucking tide turning, if no one else but YOU can use it (If Shepard went to Helldivers universe, he would be the only biotic to exist). They create black hole/singularities, control gravity, force waves, etc. And that is not including all the tech abilities and soldier abilities. Number 2, for being coming into the Mass Effect Universe (Ship of Helldivers) would have NO defense against indoctrination (Shepard being the only instance we have seen of someone basically being immume until like.. maybe mass effect 3 with those weird nightmares and shit). And it is stated multiple times, by multiple characters that ALL Reaper Tech spews out constant Indoctrination, in which every Reaper can control the speed of how long it takes for someone's mind to crumble. Last but not least is I guess the Crucible/galaxy wide fuck you button that is RED, BLUE or GREEN. That ship and tech the Helldiver is so fond of? Well, with Destroy, it no longer works. With Synthesis, would he still be a fanatic to Super Earth or would his new perspective change with the change within his very mind and DNA? And for control.. Idk, a more concentrated and maneuverable Reaper resistance? Cause in your example, he could one on one take on a reaper ship (Which I don't whole heartedly agree with, but I am not to stick in my ways to say impossible) but there are.. TRILLIONs minimum of Reapers. And it takes entire FLEETS on CONCENTRATED fire to destroy some of the smaller ground force Reapers, let alone something like Sovereign or Harbinger. I would love to hear your thoughts though. This has been my Ted Talk, join me next episode as we discuss Krogan Quads.
Super earth greatest plan:
1. Loose
2. Steal their technologies
3. Come back
3. Win
Uh...What about the Helldiver joining Cerberus ? This is the closest institution to Super Earth, theresofre possibly a proto-Super-Earth in his eyes.
Thought about this after I finished recording.
@@rougarabid After further thoughts, here is what I think would occur : Cerberus having access to such tech to duplicate (even with the limit of their own technology) would make them dominate galaxy pretty fast, just for the mere cost of pandering the wacko from an alternate universe who more or less share their core ideals.
Pretty anticlimatic tbh, good thing you missed it. Happy little accident and all that...
*sees the video’s suggestions for Helldivers and Cyberpunk*
“Time to open up fanfiction.”
The Helldiver would disappear into the Halo universe. Like he would fit right in.
Love somebody who doesn't know the lore of cyberpunk. Just knows the basic surface level stuff, which is rough.
So just a quick reference. Material is important but also thickness.
I bring this up in regards to the Helldiver's armor.
It is indeed space grade titanium used for Super Destroyers.
But we must bare in mind the plating on the SD is probably incredibly thick.
A 1cm thick steel is weaker than 1 foot thick of aluminum.
Obviously, the same is true of 1 inch of steel vs 1 foot of steel.
So the armor is made of a great material. But due to it needing to fit the Helldiver without encumbering him or her too much they couldn't make it too thick.
In modern body armor, look at level 3 armor vs level 4.
Level 4 is much thicker, can take much more punishment but it weighs significantly more and sticks out more.
the covenant vs the helldivers, got to have it
The hell divers have already beaten the illuminate who are much more advanced than the covenant and then turned all of their weapons into war, ships and weapons of war. They have way easier access to shielding John Hell diver exists but not only that they have ships that aren’t just super destroyers. Basically these ships are used by the regular soldiers in holdovers in there just as expensive as a super destroyer which implies they are relative meaning they’re going to have billions of these ships that will be able to gun down the covenant as soon as the covenant lower their shield to start firing and even then super earth will take cover new technology in advance it greatly meaning in the end, hell divers would win just because they have the numbers the weaponry and the adaptation
They could maybe take out a Reaper once it’s on the ground, but in space the super destroyer is very forked, they have next to 0 ship to ship combat capabilities
Would These Invaders
(Starcraft) Zerg
(Starcraft) Protoss
(Halo) Banished
(Halo) Covenant
(Halo) Flood
(Battlestar Galactica) Cylon
(Doctor Who) Cybermen
(Star Trek) Borg
(Star Gate) Replicators
(XCOM) Aliens
(Stellaris) Prethoryn Scourge
(Prey) Typhon
(Starship Troopers) Arachnids
(The Tomorrow War) White Spikes
(Fallout) Zetans
(Killzone) Helghast
(Destiny) Fallen
(Destiny) Vex
(Destiny) Cabal
(Destiny) Hive
(RWBY) Grimm
(Bionicle) Bohrok
(Resistance) Chimera
(Transformers Bayverse) Decepticons
(The Mist) Mist
(Minecraft Legends) The Leaders and Piglins
(Minecraft Dungeons) Heart of Ender and Enderlings
(Murder Drones) Cyn/Absolute Solver and Disassembly Drones
Survive Helldivers
What other invaders should be on this list
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(Mass Effect) Reapers
(The Great Wall) Tao Tei
(Warhammer 40k) Orks
(Gears of War) Locust
(Gears of War) Swarm
(Half-Life) Combine
(Half-Life) Xen
(Opposing Force) Race X
(Warhammer 40k) Tyranids
(Warhammer 40k) Chaos Daemons
(DOOM) Doom Demons
(A Quiet Place) Death angels
(Skibidi Toilet) Astro Toilets
(Sonic) Doctor Eggman and Eggman Empire
(Sonic X) Metarex
(Warframe) Grineer
(Warframe) Corpus
(Warframe) Infested
(Warframe) Sentient
(Doctor Who) Daleks
(Doctor Who) Sontarans
(Sonic) Black Arms
(Command & Conquer) The Brotherhood Of Nod
(Command & Conquer:Red
Alert) The Soviets
(Command & Conquer) The Scrin
(Xeelee Sequence) Xeelee
(Fallout) Enclave
(Fallout) The Master and Super Mutants
(PSO2) Falspawns
(PSO2:NGS) Starless
(Quake) Strogg
(Prey 2006) The Keepers and the Sphere
(C&C Red Alert 2:YR) Yuri
(SMT: Strange Journey) Schwarzwelt
(SMT) Law and Chaos Demons
(R-Type) Bydo Empire
(Captain Power and the Soldiers of the Future) Lord Dread and the Bio-Dread Empire
(Warhammer 40K) Necrons
(Andromeda) Magog
Tyranids
Flood
Chaos demons
Doom demons
Death angels(they kinda count)
And finaly this might sound a little bit crazy or unhinged or downright insane but uuuh the astro toilets :/
@@elixavibuddies2951 the Halo Flood is already on this list
the dark souls boss music played when I expanded this comment💀
@@elixavibuddies2951 Death angels would already be unable to survive current day, they just win because plot, the Helldivers would obliterate those suckers
The Brotherhood Of Nod (Command & Conquer)
The Soviets (Command & Conquer:Red Alert)
the Scrin (Command & Conquer)
Xeelee (Xeelee Sequence)
Enclave (Fallout)
Helldiver in Mortal Kombat would go hard
For the killing the floor universe, if it’s modern day and we still have some of yours nuclear ballistic missile, i think we would have a chance.
I don’t think a super destroyer could survive a nuke, let alone several.
It’s really going to be a question of if the U.S, Russia and other countries with long range nuclear ballistic missile will be willing to risk it.
(Also, for the cyberpunk part, I would be hesitant to say that the super earth is a nice place to live. It’s not rare for certain governments to lie about the living conditions of their population irrespective of only showing the nice places, like North Korea where you can only visit a couple of places like Pyongyan. Super earth still use child labor after all. Thought, it wouldn’t surprise me if the entire planet of super earth was one of those place that are nice to live in, even if it’s at the cost of other planets)
Ok but imagine this
-The helldiver that goes to the Cyberpunk universe is specifically a first war veteran
-he does chrome himself out, however, he is more susceptible to cyberpsychosis. Hallucinations occur such as himself looking at a mirror and seeing an automaton.
-his rampage, at it's peak, would result in him willingly going after adam smasher on his own due to his resemblance to a Cyborg
That shit would be cool as hell even if the helldiver ended up dead.
Considering stratagems like the guard dog and sentries, holy shit this dude could become the tf2 engineer.
Maybe it's something you can do an episode on is how lore appears to be so different than what you see on screen. An astartes is supposed to be a walking war crime but in most gameplay comes off as a marginally scarier human. Your average assault rifle in Mass Effect is supposed to hit like an anti-material rifle and your average spaceship Cannon is supposed to hit with Megaton level yield and yet you never see anything going nuclear and you never see a small pistol blow a guy in half.
We also don't actually know anything about naval combat in helldivers so we don't actually know how well those ships are designed for it. Because what you see on screen is basically a glorified FTL capable Specter gunship.
Mass Effect ship guns hit with kiloton yields.
I've been playing thru helldivers and cyberpunk together as a shared universe lately. I think alot of the points you made on the cyberpunk vs helldivers segment were a bit flawed but still was a interesting take to hear
30:20 I think the word you were looking for is "warlord." The Chinese warlords are an example of people who sent armies around China to create as much territory under their own kingdoms as possible. The Empire after Endor had warlords go around the galaxy to try to re-establish the Empire. This is what the Helldiver would probably do.
You forget that the reapers wanted to wipe out targeted types of life, not all life. The reapers were most likely using less power than what they were capable of using. Remember, at the end of the first Mass Effect, only one reaper took out fleets of very powerful ships. That reaper was most likely running of fewms at that point.
I feel like the Shepard Helldiver matchup is close, until the Helldiver pulls four stims out of his a** and is back up to 100%
Dude imagine a Helldiver with a Sandevistan.
This makes me wonder what would happen if a helldiver got sent to non shooting games. Like imagine this scenario but with Mario, Metroid or Sonic.
funny thing is, Strauser in KF2 is that 'nazi taken out of nazi germany'. Poor guy got injured, toyed with, frozen, and then thawed to fight monsters.
Bro, your analysis of Mass Effect is way off. Like to the point that I can confidently say your entire segment about Mass Effect is just wrong. You've made the same statements before in the past but it was a minor thing and I didn't want to be all nit-picky about something that didn't matter in the end but now it's all sorts of relevant to the outcome you're stating.
The Reapers aren't at it to destroy all life, they're aiming to harvest organic and inorganic species when they reach a specific point of development. They are stated in game to have nuked several colonies from orbit and just moved on while taking their time on major planets like Earth so they could harvest the inhabitants. A Reaper is also stated to have shields that are 'impervious to dreadnought fire'. A single main cannon round from a Systems Alliance dreadnought in Mass Effect is stated in lore to have a 38.72 kiloton yield upon impacting a target in Mass Effect, and they also stated they did weapons upgrades after that through 2 and 3, which is why their fleets were able to fight the Reapers in 3. The Reaper's main gun, the 'laser' you talked about, is something called a 'magnetohydrodynamic cannon'. I don't fuckin' know the definition, but it basically shoots liquid metal in a stream at a target. The thing is stated to have a yield of 132 to 450 kilotons. The Thanix Cannon installed on the Normandy was calculated, based doff that info, to have a yield of 10 kilotons per shot, which is supposed to be roughly equal to the main cannon on a cruiser. So a cruiser is popping off nuke equivalent shots with each main gun shot. The smallest of Systems Alliance ships use what is essentially the Orbital Rail Cannon strategem as a rapid fire primary weapon in ship to ship combat. Those weapons are secondary weapons on ships frigate, cruiser and up in size. Plus they have shields that are rated to stand up against those weapons. The Super Destroyer in no way, shape, or form has the firepower or defenses needed to stand up to a Mass Effect ship in a firefight. It's just done no matter what it does.
For the ground weaponry, based on the effects in game, we can safely assume ME small arms have at least the same amount of impact force as a Helldiver's primary weapons. The thing with the mass effect tech inside it is to make it so that when you aim at a target at a specific range, you do not have to worry about drop, the 'round' that's fired will have the same impact on the target regardless of range, and the operator doesn't need to worry about ammunition, though the subverted that whole fuckin' thing with the whole thermal clips bullshit. The key firepower advantage the Helldiver has is that while his Super Destroyer is there, he can call down strategems and he can get heavy weapons that are, in some cases, superior to what the ME people have without using a mech or vehicle. The major, decisive disadvantage the Helldiver has is that all infantry in Mass Effect has armor as good as his at keeping them alive and more elite units have heavier armor akin as well as shielding. Fighting against ME infantry for the Helldiver would be like fighting the Automatons, except they have shielding and heavier armor that the Helldiver needs to focus down on and pump several magazines of standard ammo into a target in order to kill just one. The Super Destroyer also becomes a disadvantage here for the Helldiver because in all other aspects, the Helldiver is assured of space superiority and having their Super Destroyer ready to support them. In Mass Effect, I don't know if a Super Destroyer could stave off a fighter attack, much less a system patrol ship. If it were more than just the one ship they might fare a little better but nah, gotta say your assessment here is completely wrong.
Agree with almost everything you said. The only point I would disagree with is the super destroyer not having the firepower compared to mass effect ships. It would lose in a space fight because it's not meant for space fighting just for orbital support, so let's get that out of the way. Now, in terms of firepower, if it had space fighting capability, it would have pretty good success based on power alone. You're using kilotons of power for the mass effect verse while a single super destroyer has 4000 MEGATONS of power on board. The issue wouldn't be the lack or power but rather the lack of space fighting capabilities since the ship isn't meant for that.
@@kenethernandez6246 I agree with you. It has 4 gigatons of power *onboard*. However, the weapons that we see on the ship are clearly unable to deliver all of that firepower in a rapid manner. If you were to take the sum total of munitions aboard a Systems Alliance ship, I'm sure you'd be in the gigaton range, just like with the Super Destroyer. It's just the damage per shot is much higher.
@@RedneckRapture Obviously it doesn't have a single projectile with that much power. Do keep in mind tho that the projectiles in game are toned down for gameplay purposes. This always happens when a character or thing is too strong to depict in a playable scenario. Either way it doesn't matter that much like I mentioned since super destroyers are just for orbital support not space fighting.
@@kenethernandez6246 Nah, the game doesn't shirk away from giving you stuff that's very powerful for the hilarity if nothing else. We can agree to disagree on it though, as long as we agree that the instant they release nuclear shells as a strategem, you'll be on the front lines with me dropping it on Freedom's enemies.
@RedneckRapture You can disagree if you want but you'd simply be wrong. Simple example is the 500kg. You wouldn't be able to run 20 meters and be safe from the explosion and survive. You'd get blown to shreds at that distance. You'd need at least like 150 meters minimum to not get deleted instantly and your character would still get heavily injured despite wearing armor. Also, I just realized you said 4 gigatons. Idk where you're getting that but it's not gigatons and it's not 4. It's 4000 megatons. The ship master on the super destroyer says the ship has enough fire power to level a small moon which further supports the 4000 megatons. 4 gigatons would only tickle a moon lmao.
I think they might just think they are on another planet until they learn the truth. Since whatever the community made up is canon, then that means the helldivers care about the SEAF more than their own teammates due to seeing them like a space marine would see a Guardsman. Don't believe me? Go to Super Earth Salute when they talk about adding SEAF troopers to the game in the comments. Although, then again I am not sure if comments like those are included as canon if the community makes up canon and those are individual diver's thoughts.
No not everything put online becomes canon. A lot does if it’s picked up by the community but no not everything. John Helldiver wasn’t canon until Arrowhead made him canon.
@rougarabid ah, got it.
Even in starship troopers which is fascism with some democracy who would be very interesting for the helldivers.
The one thing about the reapers i think you hand wave away is that they can instant hack most technology. The citadel races have hardened networks because of their interactions with the geth and other unchecked ais
Shipping Eve x John Helldiver! Go forth and liberate her Malevolon Creek, my fellow Helldiver!
The killing floor one: "no one is as democratic as me... hey what about that cloning tech over there..."
This is the dumb content I live for
The Helldiver in Night City would be Johnny Silverhand's best friend.
"Arasaka? Let's blow up the whole city!"
I can see them side by side as the Helldiver prepares the beacons and Johnny throws them around all willy nilly while reaching the bottom of countless bottles.
Eventually the Destroyer may run out of fuel and/or armaments
Gotta throw this out there before it may, or may not be said in the video (00:04)
No.
Full stop.
One helldiver cant even survive their own universe.
Because they’re thrown into an apocalypse world, not because they’re incompetent
Your take on if a helldiver's was in cyberpunk or mass effect is the most interesting to me
Super destroyer:moves towards a group of reapers
Reapers hundreds of thousands of miles away:fires megaton level weaponary at the super destroyer destroying it. "welp that was weird"
More powerful weaponary isnt gonna mean shit if the ship can still get hit and helldivers having moon wiping fire power as you say they have even though you really havent shown where thats stated. Wont matter when a reaper Canon just gonna pierce through it.
You made all that up. Reapers never fire at anything from that far away, there’s no evidence a Super Destroyer would get destroyed in one shot as they are SIGNIFICANTLY more durable than any ship in ME (ME ships need to decrease their mass to travel above lightspeed so their ship doesn’t get destroyed from the force something the Super Destroyers can do casually) and Super destroyers are considerably faster than Reaper ships. They can casually enter MFTL+ Travel speeds whenever they like where Reapers need Mass Effect Relays to do the same and can only travel in a straight line from a specific point to another specific point.
There is 0 question a Super Destroyer is superior to a Reaper.
its in the game
ship master states
"this ship have enough ordinance to level a small moon"
@@陈凯文-n1h why is that the one line i never gotten while talking to her lol that kinda funny
@@rougarabid okay i was wrong i was thinking in mph when i should have thought about it in miles per second you right they cant fire that far only around thousands of miles that was my mistake
The durability stuff is fair but cant a reaper not just attack from above? Arent most weapons on a destroyer like under the ship because they are meant for bombarding?
@@pimpdemon9458 its also depended on game current mo
and how events
the chances of for other dialouges get lower chance
Helldiver would get absolutely blitzed in cyberpunk trying to pick a fight with a choom
Lotta helldiver vids coming out
The algorithm has recently blown up all the Helldivers videos on my channel. I’d be a fool to not take advantage.
Speaking of mass effect. A survival challenge of who could accomplish the suicide mission from mass effect 2 could be really fun.
The outcome when you put shepard on an automaton planet really just depends on wether they're biotic or not
What if each l helldiver keeps the same brain when he dies? And it’s just transferred to another body? The captain of the ship would always be the same helldiver. And that’s why only one helldiver is deployed from each super destroyer - The brain is always stored on the super destroyer and the only way to really kill him is by destroying the super destroyer
i'm at 4:20, i'll definitly watch the rest it's a fun topic, but let me say this straight :
Given how Kriegsmarine officers (German Navy) conducted themselves during WW2, especially the U-boot part of it, there's only two solutions to your thought experiment.
Either the Helldiver is very indoctrinated and will go to any lenght to cause any damages until death ensue, or,
They surrender their ship and crew to the most advanced "faction" of the region and try to integrate as POWs, like many U-boat crew did during 1945 and the collapse of Germany.
Given that Helldivers are indoctrinated continuously from birth onward and all Super-Destroyers has a Democracy Officer aboard to make sure they are as fanatic as we need them to, 99% they go guerilla until they die. edit : or establish SE again, indeed that's an idea !
That’s what he said
there should be more helldivers if he come with the ship, there’s like a army of frozen one store on each ship
8:40 someone finally put it into words... yes it is indeed funny to drop on a swarm of bots
He's not nameless, he is......DEMOCRACY!!
I think you are underestimating some of cyberpunk here. Some of the speedware (Kerens and sandys, might really level the playing field given how fast people can react/move with them, Even if just in short bursts
Also there's the AI angle to consider especially the theories that the corp in charge of night city (nightcorp) is actually run by AI's who would take exception to some outsider trying to take over :O
I currently sit at 1:58 in the video, and just want to voice my initial interpretation on the concept. For one, I don't think having it be just one diver gives a fair pretense. They're meant to fight in groups to accomplish a goal. That said, for two, do they have their ship still? Because that genuinely gives them options. Lastly, I just want to express why "survival" is a tough ask, lol. They are, without question, the indoctrinated cannon fodder of their universe. They are the guardsman of 40K, except they're given a GUARANTEED tank. (AKA their ship) Ramble over.
Killing floor is just the cyborgs from Helldiver's 1.
I love how he doesn't mention a hellbomb
correction: People are only happy on the planet Super Earth or its surrounding planets. It's basically suicide to become a colonist since they get invaded every other day and super earth only evacuates the valuable ones
@@unothecard21 I don’t see how that’s a correction. I specifically state that I’m talking about Super Earth the Planet.
@@rougarabid shit ur right
I like these scenarios and especially how the helldiver would react in the cyberpunk universe but I don't think it would be easy by any stretch, Strategems might down most enemies but most enemies are faster than a helldiver in general, given that alot of people in cyberpunk can indeed dash and jump spam they should be able to get out of the way, also weapons in cyberpunk are clearly superior when it comes to precision, tech weapons shoot through cover and armor, smart weapons home in on enemies, and they have far more advanced snipers. Overall explosive firepower the helldiver might come through but given some workarounds helldivers can just have their weapons hacked or the super destroyer nuked. not to mention without cyberware a helldiver wouldn't stand a chance against someone using a sandy or a bezerk since the sandy canonically makes you faster than bullets (or even rockets in smashers case) and the bezerk makes you literally invincible for a short to medium period whilst also enhancing all other stats. The helldiver isn't going to like going with cyberware unless he's got injuries and even then he's not going to get his hands on the best stuff unless he's V. Speaking of V, my current build for example could just invis and sandy to get the job done. Gorilla arms punch REALLY hard in some cases and I bet he could just punch right through the helldiver considering what he's capable of against literally all types of artillery in melee alone. I think this fight in particular would be quite believable since V wouldn't see someone trying to invoke a better world, he'd just see the helldiver as raving lunatic trying to invoke another dystopia. Another thing I should mention is adam smasher nor V would go down to even an autocannon, Adam smasher was shown in the anime to take the full force of gravity manipulating tech that completely crushed tanks into dust the game version of adam even in his current state is nothing compared to his lore feats of taking down armies in seconds if that. Another thing to mention is that cyberpsychosis is a real thing, it's even included as a perk you can use to amp your stats at the expense of other things. This is shown to be a thing throughout most if not all cyberpunk media, were many character succumb to the overwhelming amount of strain each extra bity of cyberware has on the CNS, certain factors can reduce you risk of this like growing up in a loving home like David did but generally it's down to how well built you are mentally and physically. The are exceptions to this like in the case of Adam in which he is known as a high functioning cyberpsycho due to his pre-existing sadistic and psychopathic nature he is basically already there so the added strain his cyberware has on his brain is less in comparison. I have to also mention that a helldiver canonically only survives about 2 mins on average in their own universe against much weaker enemies than what is seen in cyberpunk, unless you are the top 0.0001% like general Brasch or John helldiver they don't stand a chance and even if they are these guys, somebody with a sandy would kill them easily even if they somehow break their moral code beyond having cybernetics for their injuries. The helldivers deal with immense odds but automatons are slow with limited proof they can sustain much damage without dying apart from hulks and striders, helldivers rely on their strategems too much to deal with their enemies to be considered competent without them and those wouldn't work against much in cyberpunk since they are pretty easily avoidable by helldivers themselves who are really slow, and finally they probably wouldn't last long enough in their spouts about Super-Earth to people before they are shut up by any gangs nearby that don't want to hear their rambling. I love Helldivers but they wouldn't stand a chance in cyberpunk. This is a complete mismatch.
...BUT what if superearth answered Gondors call in the battle for Minis Tirith in LOTR?
Dude, your analysis of the Helldiver's weapons is waaay off. We know exactly how strong most of them are. The wiki gives us their calibers, weights, and velocities, and they're pretty underwhelming. Their standard issue rifle is barely any better then a current day M4. The anti-material rifle is basically just a .50 bmg.
Adam Smasher would sqaush the Diver like a bug. Sheperd would beat them with ease considering he has shields and biotics and they usually dont.
You also forgot to consider if the Super Destroyer has shields, because if it doesn't, then it will much easier to destroy.
Some advice. If a wiki doesn’t have a reference to where it got its information, it’s bullshit. The calibers for these weapons have never been stated by the developers or any other official source. The Anti Material Rifle can shoot through well over a foot of plated armor in game something no .50 BMG can do.
@@rougarabid since most already established lore from the Helldivers wiki comes from Helldivers 1 and Helldivers 2 doesn't contradict the original lore from Helldivers 1 you're clearly either wrong and won't admit it or you're arguing in bad faith.
By the way I know you're wrong because the Super Earth in Helldivers 2 isn't the real (Super) Earth because it's an entirely different planet since at the end of the first Helldivers Super Earth got blown up!
@@26th_Primarchhe said that super earth was destroyed already before
Also what we see in game is much stronger than any real life weapons
The question is.. would one helldiver want to live in a universe without managed democracy?
Depends on the helldiver, theres alot of factions and not all helldivers agree with the super earth government.
@Drkfire_Yt that is an undemocratic thought there!!!
I must report you to my nearest democracy officer!!!
@@sparrowsbewertungen6930 just speaking as som1 whose studying yhe different factions using mostly info provided by the ministry of truth, not saying i am one just saying there r those who dont believe in evrything is all.
@@Drkfire_Ytstill mentioning them shall get everyone on the watchlist, so that liberty is protected
@@sparrowsbewertungen6930 then put the government on the watchlist since i learned it from them, or shall we forget this conversation happened instead?
I feel like in Stellar Blade, he would try to go after everyone if he learned the truth.
It would be interesting if we explored Fallout armies, poat-game, and put them in different universes like the, the Chosen One's Arroyo, Courier Six'sMojave army, the Lone Survivors Boston Minutemen army, & even the Fallout 76 Vault Dwellers
helldiver arrives in cyberpunk starts messing around and one day some hacker group or rogue A.I. shuts down life support on his ship or sends it crashing down .
TREASONOUS SLANDER AGAINST SUPER EARTH.
but entertaining content
10:28 especially with the help of the Democracy Officer on board
Rouga!!
Let's go!
it would be interesting to see “would 1 titanfall pilot surivive these universes”
Now imagine a helldiver with cybernetic enhancements
In a stellar blade world, he'd pick no sides. C'mon.
That being said my V is demolishing the average helldiver
I'd say the whole thing of Ashley is more of a joke now because she lacks much else for character traits. It does actually make her have more defining traits than what's his name.
The flaw in helldiver logic is seen in Sparta and other “only war since birth” societies.
The Helldiver joins Cerberus and becomes a human supremacist
21:28 biblically accurate angle:
An interesting place to put Helldivers in...
Stygia, the hellish, apocalyptic resort world from Bulletstorm.
Wow I haven't gotten that far into your catalog of videos a whole video on Spacism(space racism). Love this shit...... UA-camr of the year in my book.
I think Cerberis would have an interesting reaction to the helldiver
11:55 double check/fact check?
Suggestion for a next video
Would the Automatons win against the CIS Droid Army?
I believe that Automaton troops in general are better fighters than most Droid troops, but in terms of space warfare and numbers, CIS may have a significant advantage.
@LipeSun thats why a video about it would be fun to watch
@@LipeSun the thing is you forget a significant factor the automatons are just gonna start using the metal from the droids to make more automatons. They’re going to take the technology from the droids and make it better. The ships they’re going to make it better they’re just gonna make everything better. Not only that they actually do have warships that are actually pretty insane. Plus, we’ve actually never seen their full size. They actually may have more troops, than the droids if this is Star Wars. Because I don’t know what CIS stands for I’m dumb
@carlosvicenty-9856 I agree with most of what you said, I'm just not sure about the part about improving technology, since all the technology the Automatons have is actually a relatively worse version of Super Earth technology, and CIS are the separatists from Star Wars
I can just imagine a helldiver becoming a batman like figure and become a hero to the citizens of night city and taking down arasaka and making night city not so depressing anymore like godamn😭😭😭
id mention hell divers arent against alien tech so they'd probably get mods and stuff for super earth
Imagine a helldiver with cyberware
Arguably all of these can be solved with orbital railguns
What are you on about, We fight for Democracy
Please make a video where two or more heroes or factions from different universes fight against a galactic or even universal threat. For example, Helldivers and Halo against gray goo (self-replicating nanomachines).