They never intended to deliver. 30 years ago, Labour or Tory governments sent illegals migrants packing and immigration although a problem was a small one and controlled. Under Blair amd NU-Labour the sovereignty of Parliament was dismantled in favour of other “authorities”,domestic and foreign. But if Parliament is no longer sovereign we are no longer a democracy….it is as stark as that. As the Dutch have now seen, their little country, quite overwhelmed by migrants from all over the world, had to ask the permission of a panel of non Dutch people in the EU for “permission” to partly close their borders. Permission. And Permission was denied. Could this be any starker or clearer?
@@SubjectiveFunny Well, I must admit, that's a difficult question, and I don't know the answer. One problem is, people are forced to vote tactically by our unfair electoral system, to "get rid of the Tories", say, rather than voting for what we believe in. Since Thatcher, I believed I detested the Conservatives, and have never voted for them, but frankly Labour make my flesh crawl. Eventually however, I grew to admire Boris Johnson for getting us out of Europe against enormous opposition from within his party, and exposing the hypocrisy of his opponents. He was surrounded by resentful traitors, and effectively crippled by the covid epidemic. He came near some birthday cake on his birthday, and that was the last straw, apparently.
@@TrudyTrewdo you have amnesia? He was booted out for lying about his knowledge of Chris pincher sexually assaulting young male colleagues. Do you think that’s ok?
"By their fruits ye shall know them" In the last 15 years, the Tories massively increased immigration and they broke Britain in every possible way. If they win again, it will be more of the same. More immigration. More ruination.
@sh.4409 OK so how is ukip going to do it then . There are problems 1 the civil service . 2 . The home office. All getting kick back from it. And 3. I haven't seen the ukip manifesto yet . If they got one. I'm still voting for the Reform UK. It's best. I hope the UK . And why did Nigel leave ukip.
You are only going to set up labour for 25 years in power. Reform only got 16% And 5 seats, might not be fair but those Are the facts. Best you can hope for is a Tory/Reform coalition government.
Two things here made me decide to stay with Reform. First Jenrick saying he wanted to entice back those who have left the Tory Party for the Lib Dems and Reform. These two groups are so incompatible they will never gel together in one Party. Secondly it was Badenoch saying leaving the ECHR would be too divisive, and that is the crux of the matter. The Tories are too divided to be able to pass any legislation which will stem illegal migration.
@sarahwood9436 reforms policies don't work in the real world though, in fact if anything reform are advocating the sort of policies that caused the problem in the first place!
@@quintuscrinislabour and Tory policies have also shown that they don’t work. May aswell vote for policies that on paper are better. If in practice they don’t work out then it’s the same as the other parties anywya
In previous interviews Badenoch has said - - leaving the ECHR will not solve the problem. - other countries in the ECHR deport more than we do - the problem is the population of the Home Office by people previously working in the immigration charities, that is what needs to change. Jenrick's "plan" is incomplete/just a soundbite
Like them or not, the folks behind the naming and branding of the Reform party have pulled a masterstroke. Everytime a politician (from the other parties) says "that's why we need Reform" they're literally advertising for the Reform party by keeping the brand front & centre of peoples minds. By naming the reform party after a key & often used term in the political realm, the team behind Reform's naming/branding have literally bypassed the biggest barrier to new parties (lack of brand recognition) so that every call for political reform pings their party name in peoples minds. All politics aside, this is bloody brilliant marketing!
They are also known for listening to people, not just the political class, and are berated for it. The country certainly does need reform. @@Pebble_Collector
Yes! When the far right wing knuckledraggers cannot know the difference between "reform" and "Reform".... It's the marketing of the lowest expectations.
@@fredmercury1314 They didn't get even half the votes Labour got, they're lucky if even 10 % of the electorate support them. Nigel has still not done an MP's surgery in Clacton
Just like the Germans did in 1930? I'm sorry but reform UK is not a solution. They are great at highlighting issues and finding scapegoats rather than providing serious answers.
Some of it is junk but he presents well! He's far less irritating than Badenoch and you can imagine living with him politically! Because he is sincere and he shows gratitude! He has humility!
@@dianamincher6479he's a liar, never had any of these views previously and is now using the main issues on the 'right' to gain potential votes, he literally says if they don't get the reform votes they will never be in power again and he's right, but it just shows they aren't saying they will stop immigration because it's the best thing for the country, they are doing it because it's the best thing for Jenrick and gives him and therefore potentially the conservatives a better chance of getting back in power
@@stefanig4834 They voted for all the left wing cancer those traitors put in to Parliament. They did not oppose them. All Tories are nanny state left wing globalists wearing a conservative skin suit to trick low information voters in to giving them power. I hate Labour, but atleast those tyrants are honest about how they are going to screw me over. I used to vote conservative time and time again until Boris & Sunak's final betrayal, & every single time instead of the promised nationalist conservative, I got a left wing nanny state globalist! Never again... The Tories have done severe economic, cultural and societal damage to the very foundations of this country, which even if we get a Reform government at some point it will take at least 10 years to begin to fix the damage those pandering traitors willingly inflicted upon us! Their 14 years have transformed the UK from a secular liberal/conservative nation who valued free speech and individual liberty in to a borderline fascist country, with Soviet inspired "hate crime" laws which criminalise speech the regime finds "offensive", they enforce blasphemy laws now! All of our public services are deeply politicised and partisan left wing. As a 20 year long serving civil servant I saw the changes first hand. The only thing ALL Tories deserve is to be electorally wiped out, blacklisted from public office and to be consigned to the dustbin of history as failures and traitors. In short, f-ck the Tories!
WHAT!! Go look up her track record ie bullying, hacking computers to name a few and u believe someone like this is a "class" act dread to think what kind of place u live in and what kind of friends u have.
I actually don’t give a fuck… I used to be a member of the party as a younger man, I have no clue what is going on with them anymore… I don’t actually care! All politicians are the same. I believe in Reform, I will give them a go, that is the only people who seem to adhere to the values of this beautiful little island
Kemi Badenock will transform the conservative party in the same way Margret Thatcher did. She will handle the sneering Journalists come interviewers who see themselves as more important than the people they interview. She holds herself to account in the same way she holds those around her. As a woman from African heritage she knows that women have power without making it some cause celebe. Shhe takes no prisoners snd has come up the hard way. Those of us who are relatively objective know why these on the left and right hate her. And that is her strength.
Immigration isnt the most important issue for the conservatives. Getting thier voters back from Reform is most important, and theyre showing they havent changed. Still just lying through their teeth, like 90% of politicians across all parties. Our political system is in a dire state
Jenrick is the exact copy of what was wrong with the last 14years , I have to agree on Badenoch for the future even though I know nothing about the lady , she is still the best way forward.
What's the big deal with the European convention of human rights? We don't need to leave it and have an argument about it. Just ignore it like France and other EU countries do.
they do ignore it , this is just a smoke and mirror distraction to make an excuse for something not working the way they want. If they didn't ignore it then perhaps the people of the Uk would actually have a leg to stand on instead of having the onslaught of basic human rights that are getting taken away from us .
Voting Reform, they had their chance so whoever gets in Kemi, or Badenoch I'm still voting Reform. You can't comment or pass judgement on a party who haven't had a chance to govern, but you can judge the parties who have, and they have failed the public. She would not come out the ECHR, but Nigel would. Conservative never controlled the borders and Tories/Labour are the same party.
The country would collapse under Reform. They would just prove that, they too, can’t stop immigration. The fact is Ai will see the invention of Teleportation. Does anyone understand?? Forget the small boats…ANYONE will be able to come within seconds from ANYWHERE. The focus has to be on civil DEFENCE. The army and navy are depleted. Reform leaving ECHR would make Britain number 1 target for Teleporters. Just like how Brexit made us the target for everyone wanting to leave the third world. We need a party who understands how to prioritise it’s citizens while restricting new arrivals.
@@S-NorthComplete clown. Reform splits the conservative vote heavily meanwhile there's absolutely nothing splitting the left wing vote besides Lib Dems who aren't seriously trying to challenge labour anyway and have their own seperate voter base. Therefore reform only leads to Labour victories
You have to remember that for these two it's nothing more than a job interview. What they should really be saying is "if you vote for me i will get a cracking pay rise and do nothing for it".
The system is broken? Who has been in charge of the system for the last 14 years? And integrity? How can you show integrity when you won't even acknowledge the sleaze and scandal that came out of your party? I don't blame you guys for sticking with reform!
The Democrats are closest to the Lib Dems. As someone towards the economic right of the Lib Dem party, I'd be pretty happy getting to vote for the Democrats in the US. lol It was painful voting Labour for the first time this election.
Kemi is conservative, meaning she would be competing for the Republican leadership, not Democrats. I think you are just comparing them based on certain... Physical qualities.
It makes not a whit of difference who the Conservatives pick as leader. The One Nation group are in the safe seats, and they are now a much bigger percentage of the PCP than before the election. The Leader can say what they like, offer any vision they choose to the voters to get themselves elected, but if they do get into power One Nation will ensure that only Liberal policies make it to the statute books.
Absolutely spot on. This party is split 3 ways and over 90% don't believe they did anything wrong. For a start ( Nigel take note) it's not just about illegal migration.. It's about huge energy prices It's about food price gauging where Tesco's make a £2billion profit It's about net zero spending that will lead to higher tax and cost business and the public billions. It's about 3m kids living in poverty It's about the insanity of giving £billions away to foreign countries of pausing that and spending that on our elderly, our disabled, our hospices.... God knows there is enough that is seriously wrong in our own country.
The long & short of this debate is this: Jenrick sounds like a wet & disingenuous George Osborne tribute act who would take free tickets to watch a teenage popstar so he can be down as cool with his kids schoolmates. By comparison, Kemi sounds like the 'take no prisoners' new headteacher coming into an underperforming school and raising the bar on all the staff at her first all staff meeting. Her ability to think very fast on her feet and take control of tricky questions to deliver nuanced, technically well structured and cogent arguments in everyday language is astounding. Imagine either of these at a G8 meeting in conversation with presidents and ministers from other countries... Who would you bet on to be able to think on their feet vs rehashing pre-scripted lines. On the basis of the two presentations, the question pretty much answers itself!
Kemi was great. Honest answers, no empty promises. Some people forget this is the Tory leadership contest not the general election speech lol. You can’t promise policies when you’re in the opposition until 2030
Are you for real Honest answers have you lost the plot. I still can't get it around my head when she responding to the question by saying ''I don't just go on media just for the sake of going on media'' it doesn't even make logical sense this the most stupid and ludicrous response I have ever heard from any politician in this country clearly she doesn't even know what she talking about and you believe this woman will be reliable leader for a party. I would be surprised if she managed to run a nursery never mind a leading a party.
Babbling Badenoch talks a good game but on fundamentals she just comes up with standard political word salad. 'we need to grow the economy', 'we need to tackle immigration'. No specifics though, even when pressed. Yet, She can tell us that on day one she will scrap taxes on public schools as a specific policy. She has no serious, specific plan to tackle immigration so I would never vote for her.
@@SlowhandGregIt's only going to get worse for centrists and centre right I bet. Reform will push Tories as right as they can possible go before Reform finally goes away as Tories try to reclaim as many lost votes from the Reform crowd as possible. I suppose it will be very good for the Lib Dems in future as both moderate tories and much of the left who are unhappy with Starmer decide to vote for them instead.
@@myaltaccountthatiwillbarel2288 I live in what was a blue wall sear it's now a Lib-Dems stronghold The naz1 lite candidate only got 5% while their national total was 15%
@@SlowhandGreg Naz1 Lite🤣. I think I'm going to use that one myself. I suppose it all depends on what Lib Dems decide to do, if they decide to go for a more left wing opposition to Starmer similar to what they did against Blair then I think the Tories will stay halfway relevant among the center. If they decide to be a bit to the right of Labour and stay as a purely center left party then I think that what little they lose in the far left, they gain through disgruntled tories. I feel like Lib Dems have managed to snatch more seats away from tories in comparison to their size than even Labour has. I suppose we will see at the end of the day.
@@myaltaccountthatiwillbarel2288 R and the Cons have a lot of funding from the fossil lobby. Always use this talking point to those showing an interest in the right, there's a full on assault by the billionaire class against net z. It breaks thier business model and decentralised energy production and storage removing thier death grip on government and lobbying.
Badenoch - "I would like to thank the Home Secretary for removing the annual limits on work visas and also on international students, both of which I lobbied for on behalf of the Wellcome Sanger Institute and Anglia Ruskin University."
Jenrick: "I don't want to tell people how to live their lives...let's give people choice...I'm not gonna force people to live in any one way...I don't like the nanny state" - great so legalise cannabis!
But it's all just promises of policies tomorrow. By failing to specify some core policies now, she's leaving the shadow cabinet open to constant infighting - as one nation Tories can just say "well, that wasn't something you specified when running for leader and I have a moral objection to it". Why does she think constantly repeating that she's an engineer is worth anything? Are we supposed to take her word for it that engineers make the best politicians?
Agreed. Jenrick is a wolf in sheep's clothing, anything he says about the ECHR is hollow, the One Nation crap needs rooting out, Badenoch is more likely to do that
This is just the other half of the uni party. Vote how you like it won't make a difference. Before voting we must know exactly what they are going to do. Come what may. No more excuses.
Reform for me .. do not trust kemi if I was a torries I would vote jenrick.. but I am still staying with reform they had there chance she will not leave the ECHR and she as no tenrant.. reform for me ..
The tories were trying to do similar. It was all about optics with them. As soon as they realise they can get away with it, they will do it. Labour have opened Pandoras box
Against the progressive Labour Party? They aren’t gonna want that. But they need to acknowledge that most people of colour and immigrants lean to the right on the most significant policies
@@Akuff I’m the last to care about colour. But because the left DOES care about colour, let’s see how they deal with Kemi, whose politics is as far removed from theirs as you can legally get.. 😁😁 Outside of colour she is saying all the things that I want to here.. ie a intelligent take on where the country is and what needs to be done. I’ve been rooting for Kemi for a while now after they stitched up Boris AND Liz Truss
@@adburn1066 it does when you see how much flack Boris got for being an old white male of privilege ever 5 seconds.. it will expose Labour’s hypocrisy on the matter.
If they vote in Kemi, then ive lost all hope, and they have signed off on their dismantling with Reform taking its place. The conservatives are to far gone, and are not longer the conservative party.
Sadly, as much as i like Nigel, a vote for reform next time will be another 5 year of labour. There support is just too low nationwide, Just like it was this time. I also worry that outside of immigration, they dont know enough about other stuff, like education and nhs stuff. Kemi is the next best option that will actually take away the awful Starmer
"It's not the provenance of the law but the purpose of the law." How eloquently expressed Kemi, and you have my vote. But please: no more use of the c*** word ever again.
I was with the conservatives for years. No more. Just talk, talk, talk. As someone who's in their late 20's, it baffles me how the older generations have the same two ideas every single election. Either Tory, or Labour. Expecting the same decisions to bring different results. I'm very glad that the younger generations are starting to see we need something new, different, and indeed optimistic. Don't be scared of change, embrace it or be left behind. The political system of today was designed for the 18 and 1900's. It's time for change, it's time for Reform.
He sounds exactly like what I expect. What a joke. Very much a politicians politician. No chance will I vote for Blue Liberal Democrats. Vote reform no matter what or be know as “Stalins Chicken”.
Would the British Tories pick a charismatic right-wing ideologue who might not unite the party? Or, would they instead pick a British-raised white male who has English as his mother tongue and is more palatable to centrists within the Tory party? If they pick a true right-winger, the votes might go to the Lib Dems. If they pick someone not right-wing enough, the Reform voters will not return. These are the issues or rather, the dilemma.
@@suecharnock9369 Badenoch’s campaign on right wing issues like transsexualism, immigration and lower taxes. It is hard not to label her as a right wing ideologue. Her stance not to quit the ECHR might have to do with the fact this is the main theme of her opponent’s campaign.
@@yeehimwong8810 I thought she came across well and seemed to be quite logical in her approach to some of the questions posed. She is obviously a smart lady and seems to have a backbone too which many politicians don’t have.
He Jenrick is saying things he should’ve done when in government. Same old Tories all talk don’t deliver.
Yeah, so vote Labour, and then what happens?
They never intended to deliver. 30 years ago, Labour or Tory governments sent illegals migrants packing and immigration although a problem was a small one and controlled. Under Blair amd NU-Labour the sovereignty of Parliament was dismantled in favour of other “authorities”,domestic and foreign. But if Parliament is no longer sovereign we are no longer a democracy….it is as stark as that. As the Dutch have now seen, their little country, quite overwhelmed by migrants from all over the world, had to ask the permission of a panel of non Dutch people in the EU for “permission” to partly close their borders. Permission. And Permission was denied. Could this be any starker or clearer?
@@TrudyTrew What is your point? Don't criticize the Tories?
@@SubjectiveFunny Well, I must admit, that's a difficult question, and I don't know the answer. One problem is, people are forced to vote tactically by our unfair electoral system, to "get rid of the Tories", say, rather than voting for what we believe in. Since Thatcher, I believed I detested the Conservatives, and have never voted for them, but frankly Labour make my flesh crawl. Eventually however, I grew to admire Boris Johnson for getting us out of Europe against enormous opposition from within his party, and exposing the hypocrisy of his opponents. He was surrounded by resentful traitors, and effectively crippled by the covid epidemic. He came near some birthday cake on his birthday, and that was the last straw, apparently.
@@TrudyTrewdo you have amnesia? He was booted out for lying about his knowledge of Chris pincher sexually assaulting young male colleagues. Do you think that’s ok?
All I have to say is talk is cheap, you can say what you want but doing is everything
They certainly DID disabled people.
"By their fruits ye shall know them" In the last 15 years, the Tories massively increased immigration and they broke Britain in every possible way. If they win again, it will be more of the same. More immigration. More ruination.
Same old stuff from the people who fucked us up for the last 14 years migration is not the problem
Steamer lied look what he’s doing now. Blair did the same. Get real
Who cares.TORIES ARE FINISHED
I've not seen the leader of a party since Margaret Thatcher,
More like appeasers and puppets
You must be ancient 😊
Wasn't Thatcher a puppet of the expansionary capitalists in the US?
Thatcher only benefited the 40% of the population that voted for her.
@@jake751Judging by his user name, I would guess he's early 70s. Which in this day and age, isn't that old. 😅
We’re still suffering from thatcher!
Sorry im with reform thats it
A thinker. Not!
@Judge-Dredd what's there to think about? I'm going off experience moron where have you been?
@@Judge-Dredd The 90s called.
They want their dumb Americanisms back.
Enjoy the Labour government you've enabled, then.
Lame ducks
Trust nether of them. That's why I'm voting for Reform UK.
UKIP will deport. Reform won’t.
Just wait, Nigel will hop onto another exciting thing. That’s how he is, 5 years is a very long time in politics…
@sh.4409
OK so how is ukip going to do it then . There are problems 1 the civil service . 2 . The home office. All getting kick back from it. And 3. I haven't seen the ukip manifesto yet . If they got one.
I'm still voting for the Reform UK. It's best. I hope the UK . And why did Nigel leave ukip.
@@stefanig4834 *No one cares.* I didn't vote Reform to get Nigel, no one did.
_We voted Reform because we want our country back._
You are only going to set up labour for
25 years in power. Reform only got 16%
And 5 seats, might not be fair but those
Are the facts. Best you can hope for is a
Tory/Reform coalition government.
Two things here made me decide to stay with Reform. First Jenrick saying he wanted to entice back those who have left the Tory Party for the Lib Dems and Reform. These two groups are so incompatible they will never gel together in one Party. Secondly it was Badenoch saying leaving the ECHR would be too divisive, and that is the crux of the matter. The Tories are too divided to be able to pass any legislation which will stem illegal migration.
@sarahwood9436 reforms policies don't work in the real world though, in fact if anything reform are advocating the sort of policies that caused the problem in the first place!
@@quintuscrinis How so?
@@quintuscrinislabour and Tory policies have also shown that they don’t work. May aswell vote for policies that on paper are better. If in practice they don’t work out then it’s the same as the other parties anywya
You're actually a Labour supporter. Vote Reform, get Starmer.
In previous interviews Badenoch has said -
- leaving the ECHR will not solve the problem.
- other countries in the ECHR deport more than we do
- the problem is the population of the Home Office by people previously working in the immigration charities, that is what needs to change.
Jenrick's "plan" is incomplete/just a soundbite
Reform all the way!!!!
Like them or not, the folks behind the naming and branding of the Reform party have pulled a masterstroke. Everytime a politician (from the other parties) says "that's why we need Reform" they're literally advertising for the Reform party by keeping the brand front & centre of peoples minds. By naming the reform party after a key & often used term in the political realm, the team behind Reform's naming/branding have literally bypassed the biggest barrier to new parties (lack of brand recognition) so that every call for political reform pings their party name in peoples minds. All politics aside, this is bloody brilliant marketing!
Populists have always excelled in rhetoric. I'll give them that much.
They are also known for listening to people, not just the political class, and are berated for it. The country certainly does need reform. @@Pebble_Collector
Yes! When the far right wing knuckledraggers cannot know the difference between "reform" and "Reform".... It's the marketing of the lowest expectations.
That’s a five year old take
@@angelanicholson951the county don’t need that reform 👍🏽.
On presentation alone: Jenrick is dull, Badenoch is passionate and articulate.
kimi is a powerhouse
I think like most people will stick with reform
Like most people ? They got five seats, what are you talking about
😂😂@@TimComley😂😂
@@TimComley Five seats and almost as many votes as Labour...
@@fredmercury1314 They didn't get even half the votes Labour got, they're lucky if even 10 % of the electorate support them. Nigel has still not done an MP's surgery in Clacton
Just like the Germans did in 1930?
I'm sorry but reform UK is not a solution. They are great at highlighting issues and finding scapegoats rather than providing serious answers.
If words were water, we would all drown.
Some of it is junk but he presents well! He's far less irritating than Badenoch and you can imagine living with him politically! Because he is sincere and he shows gratitude! He has humility!
So much farce, so much desperation she's so right or wrong and she's a crook!
@@dianamincher6479he's a liar, never had any of these views previously and is now using the main issues on the 'right' to gain potential votes, he literally says if they don't get the reform votes they will never be in power again and he's right, but it just shows they aren't saying they will stop immigration because it's the best thing for the country, they are doing it because it's the best thing for Jenrick and gives him and therefore potentially the conservatives a better chance of getting back in power
@@dianamincher6479hes as inspiring as Kier
Sorry never again l couldn't trust them just like labour
Badenoch would of made a great PM. It's a shame she came around too late.
They could have done all this when they were in power, they didn't. Their pants are on fire. I'm sticking with Reform.
Not smart!
How could they have done? Sunak limited many great ministers before. It was Bojo and Sunak who were in charge. Not Kemi nor Rob..
Did we need to know that
@@stefanig4834 Firstly, _they_ voted in Boris and Sunak. Secondly, Kemi is _pro-immigration and open borders._
@@stefanig4834 They voted for all the left wing cancer those traitors put in to Parliament. They did not oppose them. All Tories are nanny state left wing globalists wearing a conservative skin suit to trick low information voters in to giving them power. I hate Labour, but atleast those tyrants are honest about how they are going to screw me over.
I used to vote conservative time and time again until Boris & Sunak's final betrayal, & every single time instead of the promised nationalist conservative, I got a left wing nanny state globalist! Never again...
The Tories have done severe economic, cultural and societal damage to the very foundations of this country, which even if we get a Reform government at some point it will take at least 10 years to begin to fix the damage those pandering traitors willingly inflicted upon us! Their 14 years have transformed the UK from a secular liberal/conservative nation who valued free speech and individual liberty in to a borderline fascist country, with Soviet inspired "hate crime" laws which criminalise speech the regime finds "offensive", they enforce blasphemy laws now! All of our public services are deeply politicised and partisan left wing. As a 20 year long serving civil servant I saw the changes first hand.
The only thing ALL Tories deserve is to be electorally wiped out, blacklisted from public office and to be consigned to the dustbin of history as failures and traitors. In short, f-ck the Tories!
Badenoch is class. Best candidate for the job.
WHAT!! Go look up her track record ie bullying, hacking computers to name a few and u believe someone like this is a "class" act dread to think what kind of place u live in and what kind of friends u have.
@@annemoncrieff3875 Not even you can stop her star from rising. She is destined to be prime minister.
I actually don’t give a fuck… I used to be a member of the party as a younger man, I have no clue what is going on with them anymore… I don’t actually care!
All politicians are the same.
I believe in Reform, I will give them a go, that is the only people who seem to adhere to the values of this beautiful little island
You're falling for populists and their scaremongering, mate. Reform haven't got a clue how to run a nation state.
No promises in the middle of her conviction politics!
I've never voted Tory, but if Kemi became leader I'd vote Conservatives at the next general election.
And your reasons are?
So you've been suckered in not learnt anything 😕
Voting for a black women as prime minister of Britain, lolololol
@@alfiereeves6877Racist.
The prime minister of Britain should be British, if that makes me racist then so be it
Vote Reform UK my fellow Brits.
No thanks. I don't support traitors.
@@chkldstgee2433 You are the traitor
@@chkldstgee2433so you don’t support any political party?
Reform’s policies are the most aligned with the public’s interest
@@chkldstgee2433 "Chkdizzle" get your corny a out of here 🤣
@@RRich100 What are your top three Reform policies?
Kemi Badenock will transform the conservative party in the same way Margret Thatcher did.
She will handle the sneering Journalists come interviewers who see themselves as more important than the people they interview.
She holds herself to account in the same way she holds those around her.
As a woman from African heritage she knows that women have power without making it some cause celebe.
Shhe takes no prisoners snd has come up the hard way.
Those of us who are relatively objective know why these on the left and right hate her. And that is her strength.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@izzetmustafa-l8g You'll learn.
Dont be silly!
@@FHIPrincePeter she is hopeless more life in a plank of wood
she is pro mass migration lol
Who edited this???? You’ve got repeated clips in this, back to back, you muppets. Sack your intern, they suck.
Immigration isnt the most important issue for the conservatives. Getting thier voters back from Reform is most important, and theyre showing they havent changed. Still just lying through their teeth, like 90% of politicians across all parties. Our political system is in a dire state
14 years and they did NOTHING ill n̈ever vote for them again
Just like the SNP government
Oh, they did a lot.
_Just nothing the public wanted._
Blaah blaah blaah still waiting for action
Repetitive feelgood drivel!
Badenoch is the future - not the past.
Jenrick is the exact copy of what was wrong with the last 14years , I have to agree on Badenoch for the future even though I know nothing about the lady , she is still the best way forward.
What's the big deal with the European convention of human rights? We don't need to leave it and have an argument about it. Just ignore it like France and other EU countries do.
they do ignore it , this is just a smoke and mirror distraction to make an excuse for something not working the way they want. If they didn't ignore it then perhaps the people of the Uk would actually have a leg to stand on instead of having the onslaught of basic human rights that are getting taken away from us .
He was the immigration minister..Nuff said .
Not quite nuff said. He quit when he found his hands were tied. I don't even favour him but fair is fair.
Voting Reform, they had their chance so whoever gets in Kemi, or Badenoch I'm still voting Reform. You can't comment or pass judgement on a party who haven't had a chance to govern, but you can judge the parties who have, and they have failed the public. She would not come out the ECHR, but Nigel would. Conservative never controlled the borders and Tories/Labour are the same party.
" Whoever gets in, Kemi or Badenoch". They are the same person. You need to think before you type!!😅😅
Why do you want out of the ECHR?
I felt Kemi Badenock spoke strongly about conservative and Uk values and reform to take place better than Jenrick. Personal opinion.
Yabbber yabbber yabbber a load of BS. Why didn't you do it when in power?
VOTE REFORM the only answer.
The country would collapse under Reform. They would just prove that, they too, can’t stop immigration. The fact is Ai will see the invention of Teleportation. Does anyone understand?? Forget the small boats…ANYONE will be able to come within seconds from ANYWHERE. The focus has to be on civil DEFENCE. The army and navy are depleted. Reform leaving ECHR would make Britain number 1 target for Teleporters. Just like how Brexit made us the target for everyone wanting to leave the third world. We need a party who understands how to prioritise it’s citizens while restricting new arrivals.
Reform won that debate.
Meaning you’ll bend over Labour and keep them in No10
@@InSoloDeo Labour will also be dismantled at the next General Election.
Which means that Labour did.
@@S-NorthComplete clown. Reform splits the conservative vote heavily meanwhile there's absolutely nothing splitting the left wing vote besides Lib Dems who aren't seriously trying to challenge labour anyway and have their own seperate voter base. Therefore reform only leads to Labour victories
@@myaltaccountthatiwillbarel2288 So you're voting for the Uniparty,,,, ok, got it soft lad,,,
Kemi is the only possible choice.
You have to remember that for these two it's nothing more than a job interview. What they should really be saying is "if you vote for me i will get a cracking pay rise and do nothing for it".
They are a pair of liars - both are in favour of mass uncontrolled immigration. Nobody is going to believe anythting any Tory says ever again.
Nigel 2029 Reform will have my vote. There is no red or blue just purple. Reform reform reform.
This isn't a good tag line. Red and blue makes purple. They are just a populist party then
We need to leave the ECHR
VOTE REFORM
I think I will like most people will stick with reform
Who is this most people you're talking about? The mahority hates reform
@@myaltaccountthatiwillbarel2288by that logic the majority hate all the parties
Farage has clear mandates
To stuff his pockets full of cash like the other patsies....
Farage is a Trumpist lunatic
Yeah, to annihilate the Labour in the next round in 2029 like he did to conservatives this time around
Jenrick- Generic?
Missed a trick there… 😂
WHO THE F... EDITED THIS???
The system is broken? Who has been in charge of the system for the last 14 years? And integrity? How can you show integrity when you won't even acknowledge the sleaze and scandal that came out of your party? I don't blame you guys for sticking with reform!
Fixing our NHS fixing the forces fixing fixing fixing.... 😂😂😂. Who broke everything.... 😂😂 The voters 😂😂😂
If Kemi Badenoch was running for the US presidency instead of Kamala I am sure she would win.
Exactly. She's a Leftist. The Tories are only Conservatives in name.
The Democrats are closest to the Lib Dems. As someone towards the economic right of the Lib Dem party, I'd be pretty happy getting to vote for the Democrats in the US. lol
It was painful voting Labour for the first time this election.
@@Pebble_Collector The Democrats are far-left radicals.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Kemi is conservative, meaning she would be competing for the Republican leadership, not Democrats. I think you are just comparing them based on certain... Physical qualities.
Sorry you force me to vote for REFORM because you didn't bother to do enough about migration when you were in power now is to late .
It makes not a whit of difference who the Conservatives pick as leader. The One Nation group are in the safe seats, and they are now a much bigger percentage of the PCP than before the election. The Leader can say what they like, offer any vision they choose to the voters to get themselves elected, but if they do get into power One Nation will ensure that only Liberal policies make it to the statute books.
Absolutely spot on.
This party is split 3 ways and over 90% don't believe they did anything wrong.
For a start ( Nigel take note) it's not just about illegal migration..
It's about huge energy prices
It's about food price gauging where Tesco's make a £2billion profit
It's about net zero spending that will lead to higher tax and cost business and the public billions.
It's about 3m kids living in poverty
It's about the insanity of giving £billions away to foreign countries of pausing that and spending that on our elderly, our disabled, our hospices....
God knows there is enough that is seriously wrong in our own country.
@@HarryOld972 yes, you could hear 'destruction of the nation state' all over those two. Labour in disguise, or is that Davos?
Weell the arithmetic would need to change once more before the Tories enter govt.
Nothing liberal about them
For anyone who believes a word that Jenrick is saying; i know a bridge that's for sale and i think you might be interested!
The long & short of this debate is this: Jenrick sounds like a wet & disingenuous George Osborne tribute act who would take free tickets to watch a teenage popstar so he can be down as cool with his kids schoolmates. By comparison, Kemi sounds like the 'take no prisoners' new headteacher coming into an underperforming school and raising the bar on all the staff at her first all staff meeting. Her ability to think very fast on her feet and take control of tricky questions to deliver nuanced, technically well structured and cogent arguments in everyday language is astounding. Imagine either of these at a G8 meeting in conversation with presidents and ministers from other countries... Who would you bet on to be able to think on their feet vs rehashing pre-scripted lines. On the basis of the two presentations, the question pretty much answers itself!
You know it's over when the guy running for leadership of the Conservative party wears lipstick.
Didn't hear even a single policy from her.
@@NeilAC78this election isn’t about policy, it’s about leadership!
Kemi VOTED FOR mass immigration.
"As a first generation immigrant, I voted for..." were her exact words.
_She's a traitor to the UK._
@@NeilAC78 _More immigrants._
Kemi was great. Honest answers, no empty promises. Some people forget this is the Tory leadership contest not the general election speech lol. You can’t promise policies when you’re in the opposition until 2030
Are you for real Honest answers have you lost the plot. I still can't get it around my head when she responding to the question by saying ''I don't just go on media just for the sake of going on media'' it doesn't even make logical sense this the most stupid and ludicrous response I have ever heard from any politician in this country clearly she doesn't even know what she talking about and you believe this woman will be reliable leader for a party. I would be surprised if she managed to run a nursery never mind a leading a party.
Kemi is pro-immigration, mass immigration.
She's the exact opposite of what this country needs.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@adamteedwell said mate 👏
@@adamteed that was the best answer
Babbling Badenoch talks a good game but on fundamentals she just comes up with standard political word salad. 'we need to grow the economy', 'we need to tackle immigration'. No specifics though, even when pressed. Yet, She can tell us that on day one she will scrap taxes on public schools as a specific policy. She has no serious, specific plan to tackle immigration so I would never vote for her.
Same old feelgood repetitive drivel!
Conservative?? They mean liberal
They are all destructive Globalists controlled by 💰
Neoliberal.
@@martynblackburn9632 Neo liberal globalists
They mean nothing!
When Kemi is elected the first Black Prime Minister of our country it will be a wonderful celebration of The UK’s international footprint and history
Why? We'll starve?
I am a centrist and Badenoch is clearly the better candidate.
I'm a centerist as well there both off the range.
Until they stop with the reform and Thatcher obsession I'm out
@@SlowhandGregIt's only going to get worse for centrists and centre right I bet. Reform will push Tories as right as they can possible go before Reform finally goes away as Tories try to reclaim as many lost votes from the Reform crowd as possible. I suppose it will be very good for the Lib Dems in future as both moderate tories and much of the left who are unhappy with Starmer decide to vote for them instead.
@@myaltaccountthatiwillbarel2288 I live in what was a blue wall sear it's now a Lib-Dems stronghold
The naz1 lite candidate only got 5% while their national total was 15%
@@SlowhandGreg Naz1 Lite🤣. I think I'm going to use that one myself. I suppose it all depends on what Lib Dems decide to do, if they decide to go for a more left wing opposition to Starmer similar to what they did against Blair then I think the Tories will stay halfway relevant among the center. If they decide to be a bit to the right of Labour and stay as a purely center left party then I think that what little they lose in the far left, they gain through disgruntled tories. I feel like Lib Dems have managed to snatch more seats away from tories in comparison to their size than even Labour has. I suppose we will see at the end of the day.
@@myaltaccountthatiwillbarel2288 R and the Cons have a lot of funding from the fossil lobby.
Always use this talking point to those showing an interest in the right, there's a full on assault by the billionaire class against net z.
It breaks thier business model and decentralised energy production and storage removing thier death grip on government and lobbying.
This guy thinks we forgotten all about the last 14 years! Plonker it's there fault!
@@Joseph-wo3tr where?
Robert Jenrick = common ground, centre ground, broad church
Kemi Badanoch = platitudes, working class after working in McDonald’s.
Vote Reform 🇬🇧
Badenock for me
Badenoch
Badenoch - "I would like to thank the Home Secretary for removing the annual limits on work visas and also on international students, both of which I lobbied for on behalf of the Wellcome Sanger Institute and Anglia Ruskin University."
Kemi nailed it.
That was a very good speech to be fair.
Thats why im going to be voting
REFORM ✅
TOO LIITLE TOO LATE TORIES YOU HAD YOUR CHANCES AND BLEW IT!!
Very girlish and desperate and all shesays is axiomatic! We know all that she's saying! She had 14 years to regurgitate it!
He's slightly more convincing thanshe is- she's arrogant for no reason! Nothing new here!
Keep your black hands off our human rights legislation-she's a bloody nightmare!
@@dianamincher6479why the racism? 😢
Does Badenoch have dual nationality ,if so it should disqualify any politician from being PM.
yes she's another Citizen of Nowhere like Sunak and Boris.
Same with Lammy , Out
Does it matter? I think it's a plus. It shows that they have been exposed to other cultures which is important to understand different cultures.
Editing is terrible and will put a lot of people off. Repetition of so many bits. Awful!
Ikr
As ever they say one thing then when they get in they do the opposite. Just vote Reform.
A worse version of the Tories?
Why?
Vote reform!
It really really makes me mad when politicians talk about ‘a bill of rights’. WE HAD ONE, ALREADY INSTILLED INTO OUR LAWS. ECHR REMOVED THEM.
Jenrick: "I don't want to tell people how to live their lives...let's give people choice...I'm not gonna force people to live in any one way...I don't like the nanny state" - great so legalise cannabis!
It's long past time for the Conservatives to remember what conservatism means and why the British people want it.
Who edited this, there are so many repeated clips?
Question. Do you believe any of them ?
NO
I do!
He seems more lucid and integrated than Kemi! kEmi is more of a fraud!
Don’t be ridiculous.
Nope.
14 years of bare faced lies......It's too late now....LIES....🤔😳🙄🇬🇧
Too young! Immature just vote reform!
They are both losers.
Stupid way of thinking. People with your ideology never get things done!
She would do better in Reform.
Badenoch was the clear victor, Not just tonight, throughout the leadership campaign. Starmer would be eviscerated at the despatch box by Badenoch.
But it's all just promises of policies tomorrow. By failing to specify some core policies now, she's leaving the shadow cabinet open to constant infighting - as one nation Tories can just say "well, that wasn't something you specified when running for leader and I have a moral objection to it". Why does she think constantly repeating that she's an engineer is worth anything? Are we supposed to take her word for it that engineers make the best politicians?
She's kinda foxy too. Just sayin.
Agreed. Jenrick is a wolf in sheep's clothing, anything he says about the ECHR is hollow, the One Nation crap needs rooting out, Badenoch is more likely to do that
@@andrereloaded1425 someone likes a feisty female.
Imagine wanting to be led by an African woman.
Is it me? Jenrick looks like he's wearing eyeliner red lipstick and some blush. I like Jenrick definitely sounds good who knows.
He is full of shit, Kemi wins it for me
She played a big role increasing student and dependant visas. Keep her away from Power!
blah blah blah heard all this bull shit before .So why didn’t u do anything about.
Yes
My word, is this the best they can muster?
This is just the other half of the uni party. Vote how you like it won't make a difference. Before voting we must know exactly what they are going to do. Come what may. No more excuses.
REFORM!!!!!!!!!!
Where’s your argument a five year old could shout that
Finished yourselves off. Had your chance and blew it. Same bullshit talk on repeat
Conservatives are sounding like Labour circa 2010. Just saying...
Reform for me .. do not trust kemi if I was a torries I would vote jenrick.. but I am still staying with reform they had there chance she will not leave the ECHR and she as no tenrant.. reform for me ..
One thing I'd NEVER thought I would say is...I WOULDN'T MIND THE TORIES BACK IN POWER TMR TO GET RID OF STARMER THE DICTATOR BEFORE ITS TOO LATE...
The tories were trying to do similar. It was all about optics with them. As soon as they realise they can get away with it, they will do it.
Labour have opened Pandoras box
Need to cut the size of the state so that taxes can be cut and dropping net zero targets.
Same old feelgood repetitive drivel! Vote reform!
Yadda, yadda, all talk, vote Reform after 14 years of them and the present disaster?
Kemi is brilliant, I would be thrilled if she was our next prime Minister, imagine a black lady PM.
Against the progressive Labour Party?
They aren’t gonna want that. But they need to acknowledge that most people of colour and immigrants lean to the right on the most significant policies
Btw, I agree she is brilliant and would also be thrilled if she was our next Prime Minister, but her skin colour has no bearing on that.
Leave colour aside, grade her for her intelligence, focus and the ability to truly understand what's at stake.
@@Akuff I’m the last to care about colour. But because the left DOES care about colour, let’s see how they deal with Kemi, whose politics is as far removed from theirs as you can legally get.. 😁😁
Outside of colour she is saying all the things that I want to here.. ie a intelligent take on where the country is and what needs to be done. I’ve been rooting for Kemi for a while now after they stitched up Boris AND Liz Truss
@@adburn1066 it does when you see how much flack Boris got for being an old white male of privilege ever 5 seconds.. it will expose Labour’s hypocrisy on the matter.
She is not for me! Do not trust her!
We will never leave the ECHR with Jenrick, he is a One Nation pretending to be Farage
Why?
And your opinion matters, why?
@@TimComley everyone is entitled to their opinion!
Wow so you actually trust some mps!.
If they vote in Kemi, then ive lost all hope, and they have signed off on their dismantling with Reform taking its place. The conservatives are to far gone, and are not longer the conservative party.
Why?
Will tell you what you want to hear ..don't be gullible.
Just WORDS'! Nothing of substance... do NOT believe in anything they say, end of!!!
If this woman become leader
The door would be open to reform
Looks like a jumped up domestic servant!
Sadly, as much as i like Nigel, a vote for reform next time will be another 5 year of labour. There support is just too low nationwide, Just like it was this time. I also worry that outside of immigration, they dont know enough about other stuff, like education and nhs stuff. Kemi is the next best option that will actually take away the awful Starmer
"It's not the provenance of the law but the purpose of the law." How eloquently expressed Kemi, and you have my vote. But please: no more use of the c*** word ever again.
More of the same old lies. Vote for Reform.
I was with the conservatives for years. No more. Just talk, talk, talk.
As someone who's in their late 20's, it baffles me how the older generations have the same two ideas every single election. Either Tory, or Labour. Expecting the same decisions to bring different results. I'm very glad that the younger generations are starting to see we need something new, different, and indeed optimistic.
Don't be scared of change, embrace it or be left behind. The political system of today was designed for the 18 and 1900's. It's time for change, it's time for Reform.
Hmmm, is there something about you which you want the world to accept?
@@Akuff my love for you x
Who now gives a shit
Vote reform too much divisiin tory party always will be
I have no interest in Labour or Tory ever again.
He sounds exactly like what I expect. What a joke. Very much a politicians politician. No chance will I vote for Blue Liberal Democrats. Vote reform no matter what or be know as “Stalins Chicken”.
Realisticly Reform will never be the ruling party, ever!
USA American people first
Would the British Tories pick a charismatic right-wing ideologue who might not unite the party? Or, would they instead pick a British-raised white male who has English as his mother tongue and is more palatable to centrists within the Tory party?
If they pick a true right-winger, the votes might go to the Lib Dems. If they pick someone not right-wing enough, the Reform voters will not return.
These are the issues or rather, the dilemma.
If she is a true right winger, why is she in favour of staying with the echr?
The majority of the country now wants mass deportations. The only way the Tories get back in power is if they promise this.
@@suecharnock9369 Badenoch’s campaign on right wing issues like transsexualism, immigration and lower taxes. It is hard not to label her as a right wing ideologue. Her stance not to quit the ECHR might have to do with the fact this is the main theme of her opponent’s campaign.
@@yeehimwong8810 I thought she came across well and seemed to be quite logical in her approach to some of the questions posed. She is obviously a smart lady and seems to have a backbone too which many politicians don’t have.