It also makes mention of a "tri-stacked" cartridge configuration in regards to the magazine. However, upon inspection of the default 30 round mag (and by extension, 60 round mag), that doesn't seem to be the case. Furthermore, I don't think the design of the magazine can support this triple column stacking feature.
Next season will be more like WW2 focused. According to leaks we'll get STG44 and Kar98k. And SPAS-12 with akimbo attachment to spice it up. (I know it's not related to WW2)
i know they had planned to make an official sequel to it, but Activision forced them to make WWII. so it wouldn't surprise me if they still have some leftover assets from that.
They actually wanted to make an Advanced warfare in conditions and with an actual development cycle (they also more or less rioted or atleast complained, not wanting to make another 'support game') but in the end being forced back into working into a support game. They kinda wanna do an AW2 in 2027 but nobody really knows what's gonna be. Feels like they wanna be creative or bring stuff from the past but they get ball slapped so this is the best they can do / the most freedom they get.
I dont think Sledgehammer knows what the fuck they want to do: Anvanced Warfare, added a bunch of WW2 guns: "oh they want to make a WW2 game." WW2 & Vanguard, adds anachronistic and future guns: "oh they want to make a modern game." MW3, add a bunch of futuristic guns (and leaked WW2 guns): "oh they wanna make a future game?" If they make a future game again they'll probably add a bunch of modern or civil war guns at this point.
Idrc that the aw weapons are in mw3, in reality these guns are just prototypes for their aw versions? Gotta start somewhere right? And they are both very plausible. The MORS is just a railgun in a smaller form factor. The only innacuracy as far as I can tell is the electricity effects. Most railguns just have a much larger muzzle flash effect more akin to an explosion. And for the BAL, it could very well be made today. It uses a similar layout as a P90, and those flaps are very easy to make. Now as for the gold chip interface on the mag, I assume it could be a pressure sensor that can calculate how many bullets are left. But honestly they can fit very well given this knowledge. Maybe the Bal more than the mors but my point still stands.
It's funny, they'll go through the effort of making a fictional weapon appear functional, but the week before the aftermarket part got rid of the buffer tube on the M4 ☠️
I know people in the comments section will hate me. But these AW weapons and seeing them in this game has been really cool to me even if they conceptually doesn’t add up. Makes me with SH would be given the chance to make AW2
One thing that you have to consider is that it’s logistically impossible by todays standards, a gun in the future may not adhere to the same technology as the ones we have now and the devs never stated how the gun functions. We sometimes forget how little time it takes to make the impossible possible, like Smartphones have only been around for slightly more than a decade or two which no one in the future would’ve predicted.
Smartphones are new inventions that used technology that was not in existence yet. It also added features that did not exist at the time. The BAL-27 is not the case. It is just a P90 but worse in every way. The magazine feeding system has a moving part that is unnecessary, it is larger than needed, and holds less ammunition than the P90. It also looks much more expensive to produce, judging by how shiny it is (metal) and all the cavities (more CNC needed). There is no reason that the BAL-27 should exist. It is just a gun designed to look cool (which it does) for a future setting, which it fills that role splendidly. However, it is not a practical gun.
@@dangle9756 Yeah that’s kind of what I’m saying, the redesign in MWIII feels like an attempt of grounding the design, only for it to turn out far worse than if it wasn’t left vague.
Yeah its really annoying seeing people complain about weapons in a futuristic game being "impossible" or unrealistic while completely missing that that's the whole point of the futuristic setting.
Man I hate MW23 with a passsion... but I really liked AW, even Exo Zombies. Hard to believe it's been 10 years... Jesus. At least we got a piece of that game in MW23, that might be what brings me back to that awful game.
nope because johnathan irons form Atlas in 2040 r 2045 so it going be long time before we hear about atlas since cod aw 2014 not canon to new cod universe vangaurd modern warfare reboot series black ops black ops cold war an black ops 6 an black ops 2
@@Wolverine1992-z5m fair, but remember that the Bal has the atlas logo, so what I believe is that in this universe, atlas was made wayy sooner than what it was in AW
so i guess timeline wise. its 2024. AW is late 2040's- 2060's. make sense to use of a cartridge that matches the fire rate from AW. And The BAL Will Be Released In 2027, so for now whoever at atlas "sledge dev" Is Still Shooting Ideas For The Cartridge. cant have too many guns in 5.56x45 NATO.
I think bringing back this gun is cool, but making it 5.7x28 doesnt make much sense. First in its defese, being 5.7 doesn't necessarily mean it needs to be an SMG. However, making it 5.7 with a 30 round mag makes it a lower capacity, shorter barrel P90 with higher recoil and more expensive construction. It would be better for it to be either 5.56, or even better, a proprietary or caseless cartridge.
I swear to god if another sci fi game has guns with backwards p90 mags Imma lose it. With the smart guns in Cyberpunk alright, I can excuse it. I don't visually care for it, but the smart guns don't need long barrels anyways so I can deal with it. But this? This is unbullpuped for no reason and doesn't even have the excuse it fires homing rounds. I am so scared of this becoming a trend.
They should have just made up a cartridge called it .220 Atlas or something and it could literally just be straight walled 5.56 which would actually feed through that magazine and not just make this a worse P90
couple things, shouldn't the feeding mechanism for the magazines be closer to the stock because it would increase the barrel length so it is actually a bullpup, and also if it is a gun from the future why don't they just make up an ammo or use a really powerful contemporary round to justify the mag size instead making it into a "p90 but without everything that makes the p90 what it is"
I'm pretty sure they chose to chamber it with 5.7 instead of 5.56 because the model used in AW was too thin to accommodate the size of 5.56 rounds in the magazine. Since the devs wanted to keep the same overall shape of the weapon without messing with its dimensions too much, they used 5.7 as it's short enough to fit inside of the magazines the BAL uses. Besides, both 5.7 and 5.56 are the same diameter anyways, so it's technically correct even retroactively for the AW BAL to actually have been 5.7 this entire time.
I like the bal I think it great sledgehammer is adding back their own guns since they don’t have to worry about licensing as well we don’t just a gun we already have but chambered in a different cartridge like the ram
If BAL27 is an unbullpup P90 , that means P90 is technically a better option with longer barrel length and compact size . But reloading the BAL27 kinda seems easier since the mag release is located at the top right of the trigger (idk I never reloaded a real P90 before or any "toy" replicas)
Its kinda ironic how IW puts alot of care into their weapons and then sledgehammer comes along and its like "wtf is this? ". You fucked up the fn evolys and a non functioning f2000. Now we get a ar chambered in 5.7?
Something worth noting is that 5.7X28 is technically an intermediate cartridge which was developed specifically for the P90 which is a weapon made to fill a similar role to an SMG but with better range hence the use of a new cartridge over something like 9mm or 45acp, its an all around cartridge
Isn't it still bullpup? There is "ventilation" looking piece on a side, between trigger and "magwell", right under rear sight. I think this is a place where hammergroup is, still behind trigger
I think the way the regular mag and the extended mags works is like, 30 round standard is double stack, but the extended is a quad stack. That sounds cracked af
You guys had massive issues with the fps animations after update? I can fire my scar h rifle grenade and it reloads the grenade using a fucking bullet magazine LOL, also per bullet revolver reloads always have a speed loader and dont work anymore and empty magazines don't need to cycle the first bullet by using charging handle its all messed up, happens after playing a while.
I always figured it was telescopic ammo. Because you still see cases being ejected. But I can live with it being caseless. I can imagine in-universe they made versions for multiple calibers.
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At least it doesn't use 12 Gauge, yet.
just wait in a few weeks. They'll cook something
@@munanchoincoh, so they'll finally will add Monolith P-12 shotgun
@@johnytwojackets5640 Or a 3d printed-looking ass bootleg of it that'll be a conversion and's gonna be called JAK P-12 or something.
@@cleeiii357 or that. More likely that.
@@munanchoincNah they gonna overcooked it
“Unbullpuped P90”
Thanks now I can’t unsee it
Just remember that they launched the game with the AR57.
@@taeliantalittia612 AR57 is not cursed… that gun actually exists
@@MexicanSpy now make it in bullpup.
@@Rashed1255 Demo Ranch already made it
@@MexicanSpy It existing doesn't make it less cursed, if anything it makes it even worse.
I love the AR57
So, BAL-27 is living incarnation of unbullpoped meme.
Maybe
"unbullpoped"💀
Dont ask a mans salary
Dont ask a womans weight
And lastly dont ask Activision how their fictional guns work
man who cares how their fictional guns work, they looks cool af is what that matters
@@bingolos9063True, but it's still fun and interesting to see if they would actually function, and how that relates to current technology.
@@vDullahan Fair enough
@@bingolos9063 do they, though?
It also makes mention of a "tri-stacked" cartridge configuration in regards to the magazine. However, upon inspection of the default 30 round mag (and by extension, 60 round mag), that doesn't seem to be the case.
Furthermore, I don't think the design of the magazine can support this triple column stacking feature.
MW3 might become the new "Advance Warfare"
Sadly, But I no longer have any expectations in cod anyway
nah, mw3 is the new AW but that A doesn't stand for advanced, it stands for autistic
Activision should just let them honestly.
Next season will be more like WW2 focused. According to leaks we'll get STG44 and Kar98k. And SPAS-12 with akimbo attachment to spice it up. (I know it's not related to WW2)
@@HeXaR_TOX A small number of British paras actually used akimbo SPAS-12s towards the end of the war but historians conveniently forget that fact
Seems like Sledgehammer really want to make an Advanced Warfare 2, by put the futuristic weapon in modern day theme.
i know they had planned to make an official sequel to it, but Activision forced them to make WWII. so it wouldn't surprise me if they still have some leftover assets from that.
They actually wanted to make an Advanced warfare in conditions and with an actual development cycle (they also more or less rioted or atleast complained, not wanting to make another 'support game') but in the end being forced back into working into a support game.
They kinda wanna do an AW2 in 2027 but nobody really knows what's gonna be.
Feels like they wanna be creative or bring stuff from the past but they get ball slapped so this is the best they can do / the most freedom they get.
I dont think Sledgehammer knows what the fuck they want to do: Anvanced Warfare, added a bunch of WW2 guns: "oh they want to make a WW2 game." WW2 & Vanguard, adds anachronistic and future guns: "oh they want to make a modern game." MW3, add a bunch of futuristic guns (and leaked WW2 guns): "oh they wanna make a future game?" If they make a future game again they'll probably add a bunch of modern or civil war guns at this point.
They added a future laser gun & and a modern FN F2000 into World War 2
@@idyotrnyot9378 don’t forget the blunder buss
Idrc that the aw weapons are in mw3, in reality these guns are just prototypes for their aw versions? Gotta start somewhere right? And they are both very plausible. The MORS is just a railgun in a smaller form factor. The only innacuracy as far as I can tell is the electricity effects. Most railguns just have a much larger muzzle flash effect more akin to an explosion. And for the BAL, it could very well be made today. It uses a similar layout as a P90, and those flaps are very easy to make. Now as for the gold chip interface on the mag, I assume it could be a pressure sensor that can calculate how many bullets are left. But honestly they can fit very well given this knowledge. Maybe the Bal more than the mors but my point still stands.
It's funny, they'll go through the effort of making a fictional weapon appear functional, but the week before the aftermarket part got rid of the buffer tube on the M4 ☠️
Technically….the AR platform can work without it now, with something called the LAW ARIC
Bufferless ARs are a real thing
cod added the kalash 2012 from metro
what
@@izackattackxi7522 the Kalash 2012 is a cursed as hell AK/P90 hybrid.
Bro its chamberd in 5.7 💀💀💀
I'm dead, cod these days 😂😂
What's wrong with 5.7?
@@ALX_6.11 it's a pistol cartridge used by the Five-Seven and P90, so it should be classified as an smg but the devs made it an assault rifle
0:13 says it right here
@@Mhrtxn_ well duhh, i know about that but what's with the 💀💀💀, like is there something wrong with it?
Did Call of Duty made A P90? That is an assault rifle. Wow I can see this in the real world instead of being a Sci fi Weapon.
they should just let sledgehammer make a new advanced warfare game
I know people in the comments section will hate me. But these AW weapons and seeing them in this game has been really cool to me even if they conceptually doesn’t add up. Makes me with SH would be given the chance to make AW2
Actually this makes getting the game more tempting for me. If they add the ASM1, then they’ll definitely have my attention.
Counter point: LoOkS gOoD
I was expecting them to do 5.56 CT rounds or something, this works I guess
My head cannon is it’s over pressure 5.7 with an experimental powder
Still useless since there are assault rifles
Now where's the Obsidian Steed variant of the BAL in MW3
the stats are the same on the stock BAL27 in MW3 as the ObSteed BAL in AW
So basically they added a worse p90
They really want AW2
One thing that you have to consider is that it’s logistically impossible by todays standards, a gun in the future may not adhere to the same technology as the ones we have now and the devs never stated how the gun functions. We sometimes forget how little time it takes to make the impossible possible, like Smartphones have only been around for slightly more than a decade or two which no one in the future would’ve predicted.
Smartphones are new inventions that used technology that was not in existence yet. It also added features that did not exist at the time.
The BAL-27 is not the case. It is just a P90 but worse in every way.
The magazine feeding system has a moving part that is unnecessary, it is larger than needed, and holds less ammunition than the P90.
It also looks much more expensive to produce, judging by how shiny it is (metal) and all the cavities (more CNC needed).
There is no reason that the BAL-27 should exist. It is just a gun designed to look cool (which it does) for a future setting, which it fills that role splendidly. However, it is not a practical gun.
@@dangle9756 Yeah that’s kind of what I’m saying, the redesign in MWIII feels like an attempt of grounding the design, only for it to turn out far worse than if it wasn’t left vague.
Yeah its really annoying seeing people complain about weapons in a futuristic game being "impossible" or unrealistic while completely missing that that's the whole point of the futuristic setting.
Man I hate MW23 with a passsion... but I really liked AW, even Exo Zombies. Hard to believe it's been 10 years... Jesus. At least we got a piece of that game in MW23, that might be what brings me back to that awful game.
If the BAL-27 was real, and in 5.56, I’d take it over an AR-15 for the AW aesthetic alone. Cool rifle.
Wait until they add AMR9 conversion kit that turns it into actual AMR9 from AW
that aftermarket part is coming out tthis week
At least the bal-27 has a better design than the SVA-545
At some point we’re gonna start seeing appearances of johnathan irons or atlas pmc
nope because johnathan irons form Atlas in 2040 r 2045 so it going be long time before we hear about atlas since cod aw 2014 not canon to new cod universe vangaurd modern warfare reboot series black ops black ops cold war an black ops 6 an black ops 2
@@Wolverine1992-z5m fair, but remember that the Bal has the atlas logo, so what I believe is that in this universe, atlas was made wayy sooner than what it was in AW
@@Perkaholical in new universe they weapon maker an not PMC an im not sure if Aw2014 is canon or not but it most not
The Bal-27 is a bullpup assault rifle featured in Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare and Call of Duty: Modern Warfare III.
so i guess timeline wise. its 2024. AW is late 2040's- 2060's. make sense to use of a cartridge that matches the fire rate from AW. And The BAL Will Be Released In 2027, so for now whoever at atlas "sledge dev" Is Still Shooting Ideas For The Cartridge. cant have too many guns in 5.56x45 NATO.
I think bringing back this gun is cool, but making it 5.7x28 doesnt make much sense. First in its defese, being 5.7 doesn't necessarily mean it needs to be an SMG. However, making it 5.7 with a 30 round mag makes it a lower capacity, shorter barrel P90 with higher recoil and more expensive construction. It would be better for it to be either 5.56, or even better, a proprietary or caseless cartridge.
I also like how 30 round p90 magazines actually exist, so it would be possible for it to have 30 rounds.
Hate to break it to you, but real 30-round magazines are just 50-round magazines with limiters due to regulations in some countries/states.
Or this gun doesn't use P90 mags at all, ot uses its own proprietary mags
I swear to god if another sci fi game has guns with backwards p90 mags Imma lose it. With the smart guns in Cyberpunk alright, I can excuse it. I don't visually care for it, but the smart guns don't need long barrels anyways so I can deal with it. But this? This is unbullpuped for no reason and doesn't even have the excuse it fires homing rounds. I am so scared of this becoming a trend.
They should have just made up a cartridge called it .220 Atlas or something and it could literally just be straight walled 5.56 which would actually feed through that magazine and not just make this a worse P90
couple things, shouldn't the feeding mechanism for the magazines be closer to the stock because it would increase the barrel length so it is actually a bullpup, and also if it is a gun from the future why don't they just make up an ammo or use a really powerful contemporary round to justify the mag size instead making it into a "p90 but without everything that makes the p90 what it is"
fuck it , Uncompacting the P90
that's thing is basically
tri stack magazine lowered to 30rds is wild
much more moving parts and unreliability and added weight and on top of that, less rounds carried
screw it: *unbulpups your P90*
(i actually liked aw a lot, but i don't think it is a good time for it)
I'm pretty sure they chose to chamber it with 5.7 instead of 5.56 because the model used in AW was too thin to accommodate the size of 5.56 rounds in the magazine. Since the devs wanted to keep the same overall shape of the weapon without messing with its dimensions too much, they used 5.7 as it's short enough to fit inside of the magazines the BAL uses. Besides, both 5.7 and 5.56 are the same diameter anyways, so it's technically correct even retroactively for the AW BAL to actually have been 5.7 this entire time.
I like the bal I think it great sledgehammer is adding back their own guns since they don’t have to worry about licensing as well we don’t just a gun we already have but chambered in a different cartridge like the ram
The p90 does everything better irl which is why it sucks in game 😔
Doesn't all this implicate that Advanced Warfare takes place in the same timeline as these MW games?
That doesnt feel like the original advanced warfare bal 27
If BAL27 is an unbullpup P90 , that means P90 is technically a better option with longer barrel length and compact size . But reloading the BAL27 kinda seems easier since the mag release is located at the top right of the trigger (idk I never reloaded a real P90 before or any "toy" replicas)
this is starting to become Bethesda levels of nonsensical
Brow I weewy need the guhms to be wealistiq
Bro it's just a game💀💀💀💀
Deadass, bro. He needs a job. 😂😂😂
That’s… interesting
It’s a grot converted for p90
SHG, IF YOU READ IT
PLEASE IMR
1:23 Did you mean "logically"
hell nah another cursed gun by sledgehammer
It's from Advance Warfare
Its kinda ironic how IW puts alot of care into their weapons and then sledgehammer comes along and its like "wtf is this? ". You fucked up the fn evolys and a non functioning f2000. Now we get a ar chambered in 5.7?
If it was 5.56 and bullpup, it would actually be pretty interesting as a rifle. As it is it’s a cursed as shit unbullpupped p90 and I hate it
Music name ?
Something worth noting is that 5.7X28 is technically an intermediate cartridge which was developed specifically for the P90 which is a weapon made to fill a similar role to an SMG but with better range hence the use of a new cartridge over something like 9mm or 45acp, its an all around cartridge
Isn't it still bullpup? There is "ventilation" looking piece on a side, between trigger and "magwell", right under rear sight. I think this is a place where hammergroup is, still behind trigger
It seems kinda dumb to take everything about the p90 and just... undo it, it even has side ejection there.
Wouldn’t it still be a BPup? Since the action is behind the trigger?
It was also chambered for .308 in AW as well as 5.56
That is what happens when you let artists make a engineer's job. "The dream of a artist is a engineer's nightmare"
I really like how instead of simply reusing the assets they actually redesigned the MORS and Bal to fit into the modern setting
Will check it out once I download that fucking 23 gig update file.
I think the way the regular mag and the extended mags works is like, 30 round standard is double stack, but the extended is a quad stack. That sounds cracked af
Personally, I still like it. Despite some clear flaws there are things I like. I think the little latch is a cool choice to help grip the mag.
"Un-bullpups your P90"
Unbullpuped P90 lol.
5.7 isn’t a sub caliber technically.
I bet they are gonna add a jak kit to bullpup it in the next update
This thing is pretty good in zombies.
You guys had massive issues with the fps animations after update? I can fire my scar h rifle grenade and it reloads the grenade using a fucking bullet magazine LOL, also per bullet revolver reloads always have a speed loader and dont work anymore and empty magazines don't need to cycle the first bullet by using charging handle its all messed up, happens after playing a while.
SOMEWHAT PLAUSIBLE 🥳🥳🥳
Well that is indeed an unbullpuped p90!
Man i sure do enjoy my modern shooter
*Unbullpuped your P90
so you are crying for a fix or no??
honestly the bal was a really good looking gun tbh
It always was
they kinda ruined it, I always thought the BAL-27 used caseless ammo which makes the 5.56 magazine configuration make sense.
I always figured it was telescopic ammo. Because you still see cases being ejected. But I can live with it being caseless. I can imagine in-universe they made versions for multiple calibers.
Whats the music
Cod 4 Marines theme
I thought the bal is an assault rifle
It's more suitable for PDW role
I’ve noticed that most of the AW weapons that aren’t directed energy could still make a whole lot of sense if they somehow made the BAL make sense
“It’s an improvement, but it’s not hard to improve from garbage. Fix the remainings.”
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Can you die if you don't used this bit
Please dont fix it, better delete the BAL
Why
Its Modern Warfare not Advanced or Infinite Warfare, they are doing the Same shit Like in Vanguard
@@Sicario48monster at least in this modern setting,it would make sense, unlike Vanguard that takes place in WW2
No
I love the game for the goofy shit
If you care about realism, you shouldn’t be playing Call Of Duty
Sledgehammer really said "we are so tired of fixing Infinity Ward's Bullshits"
Again, who cares
You I guess since you've written hundred comments like this one buddy