I like this shaman village more than st. Trina's place because shaman village is rural light golden village bathed in past tragic hornsent war whereas st. Trina place is likely a lovely dungeon
@@Tangozzz my personal theory is that the two fingers did in fact listen to the greater will via Metyr, but when Marika split the world into gold and shadow, she separated Metyr from the Elden Beast, it's other half (the microcosm into the macrocosm) and that's why Metyr just started lying, because Marikas original sin was interrupting the natural crucible, kinda like how Gywn tried to keep dark away from fire.
@@ValsVideoGames Damn, I really like this. The splitting of the Crucible/Lands Between -had- to have far reaching effects such as this, and I found myself wondering about the relationship between Metyr and the Elden Beast.. However the only problem with that is Ymir's dialogue where he says the fingers and their mother were flawed right from the start, implying the greater will abandoned them all much much earlier. He says the Fingers and Marika both were mislead because Metyr basically stopped receiving any guidance before they even met Marika. Maybe the Elden Beast is a sort of updated set of rules sent by the Greater Will upon Marika's achieving godhood, more aligned to her Order-Centric view of the world?
She didn't.Marika quite literally never returned here. Because there was nothing & no one to return to. This quote is attributed to the dregs of The golden order. Stop sharing Godrick's delusions.
Imagine if Marika actually favored Godrick, the little runt, like she actually cared for him, told him stories, about her home... bathed in rays of gold. Which is why he kinda gives off that vibe of spoiled brat who has nothing to show for.
SPOILERS if you want to know about Marika’s cruel fate: . . . . We can learn a few things from piecing together the descriptions of the golden braid, minor erdtree and the spirit's dialogue in Bonny Village, namely that the shaman village was Marika's home. It was there where her people were slaughtered by the hornsent to become jar "saints" and she would begin her path of vengeance and ascent to godhood. As Leda remarks of the hornset "They were never saints. They just happened to be on the losing side of a war". After putting the hornsent to the sword with the power of the base serpent within Messmer and an army of tarnished, Marika would reach the top of Enir-llim and the gate of divinty. It was here she sought to create a perfect world where nobody would truly die again and would erase any signs of the existence of the crucible and its people who wronged her. Marika would return to her village and sprout a minor erdtree to show them just how far she had come, but nobody remained... During her reign as god and vessel of the Elden Ring, Marika would birth many demigod children, however in a cruel twist of fate, her and Godfrey would birth the omen twins. Her own flesh and blood bore the traits of the very people who committed atrocities against her family and loved ones. After everything Marika did, even after ascending to godhood she still could not deny the reality of the crucible of life and so they were exiled to the depths below the royal capital. As undeniable as the crucible of life, is the fact that it must end. Marika likely plucked the rune of death from the Elden Ring so nobody she loved may die again but tragedy would strike again for Marika. Her golden child, perfection incarnate, Godwyn would suffer the first death of a demigod and so Marika would learn she could not escape the nature of the world, not even in godhood. Perhaps this led to the shattering of the Elden Ring, an act of vengeance on false promises or perhaps she realized Metyr's fingers were in fact broken from the start, either way it adds a lot to the character of Marika and the overall story of the game.
I may be mistaken but I think she never returned at all because the minor erdtree item says she didn't return. So I think the reason it's there is that before she became a god she already had life giving magic. It might be that after all her people were taken and mutilated and tossed into jars she was basically just in despair attempting to heal the whole village with her magic knowing that there was nothing that could be done they were gone. Despair turns to rage and rage led to the genocide of the hornsent.
I think Messmer's Crusade only happened later down the chronological timeline of history, since Marika "betrayed" the Hornsent after likely using their Gate of Divinity to ascend to godhood, since it seems Messmer was around until well into the Erdtree's Golden Order and empire. That being said, maybe she did only become a full god and used the gate later, since she clearly sacrificed many Hornsent to do what she did up there at the summit of Enir-Ilim, thus the bodies we can see there (and the scene from the story trailer). It's hard to say chronologically, but it seems Marika only turned on the Hornsent later, fulfilling the need for revenge that was likely inside her since the beginning after what happened to her village (it seems like she didn't discard all her feelings to become a deity, like Miquella was doing).
@@spiralistichope9216the gate was already made of bodies since the dlc trailer. Hell, Enir-ilim is made of bodies, you can see it at the tail end of some pillars.
@@mop-kun2381he is, but he was brainwashed to be a child creeper by said child. Said child then took advantage of his body and forced him to get intimate with said child’s unwilling half brother.
Given everything going on in the world rn this really made me appreciate the subtlety and restraint From show. All the bitterness and twisted logic of the lands between stem from a woman who was wronged and hurt, truly and deeply. She tried to fight fire with fire and only entrenched the problem. A land means nothing if its people are in turmoil. Life without death has no meaning. Her son tried to go the other way, but enforced compassion is mind control. Perhaps realising that she’s only made it worse she shattered the elden ring. Bring something new to the world, because we simply can’t keep going like this.
Well seems even Marika understood the cage and flaw of divinity. She knew the golden order was flawed from the very end and decided it best to guide you lowly tarnish back to replace all the efforts she made
"life without death means nothing" Is a classic cope statement, it is completely irrational, death is just an end to life, it gives it no meaning, the meaning of life is found in life, if you need something to be finite in order to appreciate it, that's your own mindset, don't assume others have it. And miquella was only mind controlling those who would get in his way or do horrible things, everyone else is fine.
I was so confused when i arrived here and found no one, no beast that wanted to kill me, no sheeps, no shadows, no knights, just a tree, spreading golden rays, a haunting music, and some little houses. I stayed there a long time. Listening to the music, surroundes by immense dark walls of Mesmer's Fort and Tower. I didn't even noticed the statue in the tree at first. With a tiny place, two items, one melody, FS made us care for Marika. The most hated character of the base game. I'll never forget that
Alas, that land, once blessed, now has diminished. (O, locus ille, beatus quondam, nunc deminuit.) We destined to be mothers, now become tarnished. (Nos, destinatae matribus, nunc fiunt turpes.) We have lamented and we have shed tears but no one consoles us. (Ploarvimus lacrimavimusque sed nemo nos consolatur.) *Golden One, at whom you were angry?* (Aureum, cui irascebaris?)
While Majula is comforting, shaman village just feels sad. Just imagine a world where Marika didn't come into contact with the fingers. A happy village girl in her home bathed in rays of gold.
This is nothing like Majula. btw, Big bad guy's sad hometown OSTs always go hard af in every game regardless of genre or platform. this one is no different either
fromsoft achieves so eloquently in a simple item description what other game developers would spend dozens of hours attempting to establish. its remarkable how they were able to completely alter our perception of marika so effectively. the power of a good narrative and art direction
After this DLC I completely understand Merikas hatred towards the Horned and Crucible knights. The shit they did to the shamans was awful beyond words.
Kind of music where you just sit down, legs stretched, and just watch the sun rise and set. A warm but back chilling bgm if you realize the back ground lore of the town and its people's speculated demise.
This place is so interesting because there is so much meaning to the area, and we learn so much from what items we get here. However, what makes it even more special is the atmosphere. There are no enemies here. So, the only audio the player hears is the music, the wind, and the player’s footsteps as they brush past the fields of flowers dotting the village. When I found this place, it was late evening and the sky was gleaming in orange. The rays of light were hitting the trees, and I got on top of a rock that faces the Jagged peak… and I looked to my right. What I saw was all the realm, and it was utterly ethereal. So many landmarks that I’ve been to was able to be seen from where I was at and it really resonated with me. This area encapsulates so much it’s mind-boggling. It’s one of the prettiest areas in the game… Afterwards I had to jump back from the rock, missed with Torrent, and fell to my death dropping 2 million runes… Thank you for this memory, FromSoftware.
Honestly, this place fills me with so much hopelessness and despair when i looked at the themes of it in the context of our real world. The cycle of violence continuing in different places, the grief of loss in general, and just the vengefulness & hatred that comes with being hurt from someone or something. From did a great job here. The shaman village has had me thinking so much of who marika really was and how difficult a position she was in. She is inherently flawed, but i believe she really tried to make things a little better. It failed miserably and the world is in tatters....just so sad.
I love how in the music in the title screen has these same instruments with similar notes playing right before it becomes bombastic, I'd like to think that this whole time they where foreshadowing this moment in the village
Mah dude! Those were my EXACT same thoughts. Having heard the bombastic title screen music for years now, hearing this shaman village music feels like eternal calmness and softness, like my central nervous system finally finding relief
This place is submerging me in a sort of confort, i cant explain it, i feel like nothing can hurt me, if feel warm. I did not think a video game could bring such emotions, that is what i call art.
Seeing not only Marika's birthplace but also the Minor Erdtree spell here was so cool. Melina is the only other person besides Marika that is known to have used this spell, really showing how much Marika trusted Melina. Melina must have seen how, despite Marika believing that the Greater Will would help everyone, Marika and the subsequent Golden Order were slowly being turned into The Greater Will's pawns. This is probably what led to her and Ranni betraying her. This also might've led to Marika shattering the Elden Ring in a last-ditch attempt to help her children like Melina and Ranni, and maybe even as atonement for the Hornsent massacre to end the cycle of violence; she might've known that those two could help someone (the Tarnished) destroy the Greater Will or at least lessen its influence. It's possible that it might've even been the Radagon side of her that did the massacre while Marika was trying to rectify it, as it seems like Radagon was the one that was more in control when it came to the suffering of the people of the Lands Between and the adherence to the Greater Will in general. I wish we got a bit more of Melina both in the main game and in the DLC; she's by far the most interesting character in the game imo, and I wanted to see if my theory that she was the Gloam-Eyed Queen was true :( The parallels between her and Messmer were super cool, though, especially how his essence references her! Glad we got more info on Marika, though. It really seems like she was also just a victim of Radagon and the Greater Will.
Miquella's basically a 2nd Marika that's why I think it's a good thing we put a stop to him he's honestly way more threatening than Marika since he can charm things and people freely to do his bidding whereas Marika achieved this by using War as her form of dominance and control although this area of the dlc and lore humanizes her for why she is the way she is its still not 100 percent justifiable as she ends up even doing worse things to people and races in the lands between in the future as the saying goes you either die a hero or live long enough to become the Villain
Unpopular opinion: The Greater Will and the Golden Order are inherently good but it was the pride and selfishness of the demigods who created the conflict in the first place.
Judging by what we learn about Metyr, it's likely the Greater Will has not been involved at all with the events of the Lands Between. So likely a lot of the awful we see has happened is likely due to Metyr making stuff as it went along due to losing contact with the Greater Will upon it's arrival.
Idk why people say the greater will is evil. What bad thing has it literally ever done. Would you rather the whole world gets burnt by the frenzied flame? Whats the alternative?
That is literally Goldmask's conclusion if you read the mending rune of Perfect Order, "The current imperfection of the Golden Order, or instability of ideology, can be blamed upon the fickleness of the gods no better than men." It should be noted he found it, it isn't his own creation.
well no the golden order is, to everyone else not associated with it, a group of colonizers who can alter the rules of the world therefore erasing other cultures
@@crabberdabberye People associate it with the Golden Order and Marika the same way people associate God and Jesus(or really any deity) with the warmongers who utter their name. As what the dude above you said, the Greater Will was never involved in the Lands Between or hell, even the Shadowlands. It was likely gone as soon as Placidusax's god left.
It be might be wrong of me to say this but Marika was right in her hatered for the hornsent and the genocide she did was sort of justified but letting her own son take the brunt of it all was not the way , maybe that's why karma came to strike her back and her family
I don't think genocide will ever be an answer to genocide, I sympathize with her and it's extremely sad and this place genuinely brought tears to my eyes but the cycle won't end unless someone makes that decision. Marika decided to not end it despite the atrocities commited, a task extremely difficult to do I can only imagine but one that is necessary In the grand scheme of everything.
Spoilers for the DLC ahead in my comment. The Mindless Menace of Violence is at the heart of this game. It tells the story of generational trauma inflicted on a poor young girl against her people, and how she used her hatred and fear to birth a new world order on the bones of the old, but in so doing inflicted that same generational trauma upon her enemies and sewed the seeds for her family to suffer for her actions. I don't believe Marika is evil. I don't believe any of the demigods are evil. They're just people, at the end of the day, who suffered pain, and when you suffer pain it's easy to justify your actions as retribution for that pain regardless of who else you hurt in the process. It's precisely why I am so disappointed in Fromsoft's ending for this DLC. Miquella could have proven Ymir wrong; proven everyone wrong by opening a way forward for the entire world to heal. For his family to come to terms with their trauma, and move forward without the Greater Will. Without the Golden Order. I was hoping for Miquella to be an RFK analogue, but no he just turned out to be a Griffith analogue and I hate it.
It's not that Miquella was "just Griffith", he still had a plan. He wanted the world to be a better and kinder place, and usher in an age of compassion. He was willing to go to extreme means to do so, like resurrecting Radahn and abandoning his body. Still, he's not in the right. An age of compassion would only work if he had stolen the hearts of everyone, making them more easily swayed to peace. I don't think Miquella is a poorly done character (even though his obsession with Radahn is a little strange) but he does suffer the flaw of not drawing a line. He's a hypocrite with a commendable goal.
No, he definitely did not "turn out to be just Griffith", because he is misguided (perhaps due to nature of his power and because his existence as Marika's child was "flawed" from the start) and not malicious. One can critique all that Radahn business, but "Miquella is literally Hit- I MEAN GRIFFITH" is one brain-dead take, sorry.
@@willr.1495 Miquella aimed to become a god of gentleness. He longed for a world where gentleness was given to everyone indiscriminately. However, in such a world, love cannot exist because love creates disparity and leads people to hate that, which threatens what they love. The path to godhood requires purifying the ideal you wish to embody, which meant Miquella had to discard his own impurities in order to become a god of gentleness, including his love. This would have turned Miquella into a loveless god, condemned to live in a loveless world-a prison of his own making. Thus, his ideals were flawed from the start.
Thank you for your reply! The point that I'm trying to make is that they're similar in the vein that they are willing to do anything and everything to get what they want. Griffith ends up betraying everybody and hurting those who cared about him in order to achieve what he wanted. Miquella is similar in that regard. I didn't mean to make it sound as if I thought they were the same character. They are not, you're right. But they can be completely different characters while still retaining similar characteristics. That's all. I meant to say it by that.
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Keep in mind this is the same dlc where you can oil up people with a physic tear
tell me where it is RIGHT NOW
Freaky Crystal Tear
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@@LeFork756 what you mean by that?
WHAT dawg where is that shit
"Marika bathed the village of her home in gold, knowing full well that there was no one to heal."
The ambience of this place and St Trina's place are next level. So beautiful
I like this shaman village more than st. Trina's place because shaman village is rural light golden village bathed in past tragic hornsent war whereas st. Trina place is likely a lovely dungeon
Damn. All this happened because the greater will went to the store to buy cigarettes a million years ago, and never came home…
The revelations in this DLC have made me turn to the side of Shabriri, just burn it all down lol.
nah its there, just weirdly cryptic as hell.
@@Tangozzz my personal theory is that the two fingers did in fact listen to the greater will via Metyr, but when Marika split the world into gold and shadow, she separated Metyr from the Elden Beast, it's other half (the microcosm into the macrocosm) and that's why Metyr just started lying, because Marikas original sin was interrupting the natural crucible, kinda like how Gywn tried to keep dark away from fire.
@@ValsVideoGames Damn, I really like this. The splitting of the Crucible/Lands Between -had- to have far reaching effects such as this, and I found myself wondering about the relationship between Metyr and the Elden Beast.. However the only problem with that is Ymir's dialogue where he says the fingers and their mother were flawed right from the start, implying the greater will abandoned them all much much earlier. He says the Fingers and Marika both were mislead because Metyr basically stopped receiving any guidance before they even met Marika. Maybe the Elden Beast is a sort of updated set of rules sent by the Greater Will upon Marika's achieving godhood, more aligned to her Order-Centric view of the world?
Ummm I thought myter didn't hear it never said anything about the elden beast that is an entirely different entity
"one day we will return together to our home bathed in rays of gold" Why do I get the feeling this is something Marika told her children.
She didn't.Marika quite literally never returned here. Because there was nothing & no one to return to.
This quote is attributed to the dregs of The golden order. Stop sharing Godrick's delusions.
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Doesn't mean she didn't dream about it.
@@yurifairy2969 She displaced this entire part of Lands Between, it would be weird if she wanted to return there.
Imagine if Marika actually favored Godrick, the little runt, like she actually cared for him, told him stories, about her home... bathed in rays of gold. Which is why he kinda gives off that vibe of spoiled brat who has nothing to show for.
@@dragonlordplacidusax9413She put the minor erdtree there so clearly she did return atleast once
SPOILERS if you want to know about Marika’s cruel fate:
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We can learn a few things from piecing together the descriptions of the golden braid, minor erdtree and the spirit's dialogue in Bonny Village, namely that the shaman village was Marika's home. It was there where her people were slaughtered by the hornsent to become jar "saints" and she would begin her path of vengeance and ascent to godhood. As Leda remarks of the hornset "They were never saints. They just happened to be on the losing side of a war".
After putting the hornsent to the sword with the power of the base serpent within Messmer and an army of tarnished, Marika would reach the top of Enir-llim and the gate of divinty. It was here she sought to create a perfect world where nobody would truly die again and would erase any signs of the existence of the crucible and its people who wronged her. Marika would return to her village and sprout a minor erdtree to show them just how far she had come, but nobody remained...
During her reign as god and vessel of the Elden Ring, Marika would birth many demigod children, however in a cruel twist of fate, her and Godfrey would birth the omen twins. Her own flesh and blood bore the traits of the very people who committed atrocities against her family and loved ones. After everything Marika did, even after ascending to godhood she still could not deny the reality of the crucible of life and so they were exiled to the depths below the royal capital.
As undeniable as the crucible of life, is the fact that it must end. Marika likely plucked the rune of death from the Elden Ring so nobody she loved may die again but tragedy would strike again for Marika. Her golden child, perfection incarnate, Godwyn would suffer the first death of a demigod and so Marika would learn she could not escape the nature of the world, not even in godhood.
Perhaps this led to the shattering of the Elden Ring, an act of vengeance on false promises or perhaps she realized Metyr's fingers were in fact broken from the
start, either way it adds a lot to the character of Marika and the overall story of the game.
I may be mistaken but I think she never returned at all because the minor erdtree item says she didn't return. So I think the reason it's there is that before she became a god she already had life giving magic. It might be that after all her people were taken and mutilated and tossed into jars she was basically just in despair attempting to heal the whole village with her magic knowing that there was nothing that could be done they were gone.
Despair turns to rage and rage led to the genocide of the hornsent.
Thanks! , this is at least 90% correct
the purge happened after not before, thats why it called betrayal, after the creation of erdtree and the golden order she purged the horncent
I think Messmer's Crusade only happened later down the chronological timeline of history, since Marika "betrayed" the Hornsent after likely using their Gate of Divinity to ascend to godhood, since it seems Messmer was around until well into the Erdtree's Golden Order and empire. That being said, maybe she did only become a full god and used the gate later, since she clearly sacrificed many Hornsent to do what she did up there at the summit of Enir-Ilim, thus the bodies we can see there (and the scene from the story trailer). It's hard to say chronologically, but it seems Marika only turned on the Hornsent later, fulfilling the need for revenge that was likely inside her since the beginning after what happened to her village (it seems like she didn't discard all her feelings to become a deity, like Miquella was doing).
@@spiralistichope9216the gate was already made of bodies since the dlc trailer. Hell, Enir-ilim is made of bodies, you can see it at the tail end of some pillars.
This dlc is making us change our views on so many characters. Mohg, Miquella and Marika. None are who we thought they were
is Mohg not the leader of a murderer blood cult or am I missing something...
@@mop-kun2381He also sells his handmade clay kitten figurines on Etsy and we didn't know that from the base game.
@@mop-kun2381he is, but he was brainwashed to be a child creeper by said child. Said child then took advantage of his body and forced him to get intimate with said child’s unwilling half brother.
@@tchoythao1730 Actually Radahn is canonically gay for said half brother as well. That part was real.
@@Garl_Vinland Classic George RR Martin.
Given everything going on in the world rn this really made me appreciate the subtlety and restraint From show. All the bitterness and twisted logic of the lands between stem from a woman who was wronged and hurt, truly and deeply. She tried to fight fire with fire and only entrenched the problem. A land means nothing if its people are in turmoil. Life without death has no meaning. Her son tried to go the other way, but enforced compassion is mind control. Perhaps realising that she’s only made it worse she shattered the elden ring. Bring something new to the world, because we simply can’t keep going like this.
“The gods are fickle. No better than men”
This is why Rannis ending is canon. A clean state where everyone is free and left alone to create something new for better or worse
Well seems even Marika understood the cage and flaw of divinity. She knew the golden order was flawed from the very end and decided it best to guide you lowly tarnish back to replace all the efforts she made
"life without death means nothing"
Is a classic cope statement, it is completely irrational, death is just an end to life, it gives it no meaning, the meaning of life is found in life, if you need something to be finite in order to appreciate it, that's your own mindset, don't assume others have it.
And miquella was only mind controlling those who would get in his way or do horrible things, everyone else is fine.
@@cptfreeman8966no ending is canon, stop being a simp.
I was so confused when i arrived here and found no one, no beast that wanted to kill me, no sheeps, no shadows, no knights, just a tree, spreading golden rays, a haunting music, and some little houses. I stayed there a long time. Listening to the music, surroundes by immense dark walls of Mesmer's Fort and Tower. I didn't even noticed the statue in the tree at first.
With a tiny place, two items, one melody, FS made us care for Marika. The most hated character of the base game. I'll never forget that
This place made me say that SoTE deserves the Goty, who cares about the final boss, this outshines the flaws completely.
This gave me immense chills finding this. Absolutely the most haunting area FromSoft has ever made. It holds so much meaning it's INSANE
Alas, that land, once blessed, now has diminished. (O, locus ille, beatus quondam, nunc deminuit.)
We destined to be mothers, now become tarnished. (Nos, destinatae matribus, nunc fiunt turpes.)
We have lamented and we have shed tears but no one consoles us. (Ploarvimus lacrimavimusque sed nemo nos consolatur.)
*Golden One, at whom you were angry?* (Aureum, cui irascebaris?)
Majula feeling. So nostalgic
also called ptsd
@@maze2k831Majula is the epitome of comfy safespace. No ptsd at all.
Except for the murderous pigs.
While Majula is comforting, shaman village just feels sad. Just imagine a world where Marika didn't come into contact with the fingers. A happy village girl in her home bathed in rays of gold.
@Monsterstrike7 if Marika wouldn't met finger, she would be probably stuffed into a jar like everybody else from that village
This is nothing like Majula.
btw, Big bad guy's sad hometown OSTs always go hard af in every game regardless of genre or platform. this one is no different either
fromsoft achieves so eloquently in a simple item description what other game developers would spend dozens of hours attempting to establish. its remarkable how they were able to completely alter our perception of marika so effectively. the power of a good narrative and art direction
Marika's village
After this DLC I completely understand Merikas hatred towards the Horned and Crucible knights. The shit they did to the shamans was awful beyond words.
Marika you mongoloid
Why is it always sadness?
“Sad. Sad, forever.”
I want to go home
And edge
@@owenmanley4231 could this be dog?
@@grandrtiv26 Snake? Snake!
Friend
Kind of music where you just sit down, legs stretched, and just watch the sun rise and set.
A warm but back chilling bgm if you realize the back ground lore of the town and its people's speculated demise.
too peak. the dlc brought some truly divine tracks to the table.
i'll never forget my first time reaching this village and thinking an elden beast would spawn
This place is so interesting because there is so much meaning to the area, and we learn so much from what items we get here. However, what makes it even more special is the atmosphere.
There are no enemies here. So, the only audio the player hears is the music, the wind, and the player’s footsteps as they brush past the fields of flowers dotting the village.
When I found this place, it was late evening and the sky was gleaming in orange. The rays of light were hitting the trees, and I got on top of a rock that faces the Jagged peak… and I looked to my right.
What I saw was all the realm, and it was utterly ethereal. So many landmarks that I’ve been to was able to be seen from where I was at and it really resonated with me.
This area encapsulates so much it’s mind-boggling. It’s one of the prettiest areas in the game…
Afterwards I had to jump back from the rock, missed with Torrent, and fell to my death dropping 2 million runes…
Thank you for this memory, FromSoftware.
Sadness ahead
you know it's special when an area get backround music
I have no idea how FromSoft can make something new feel so deeply nostalgic
Honestly, this place fills me with so much hopelessness and despair when i looked at the themes of it in the context of our real world. The cycle of violence continuing in different places, the grief of loss in general, and just the vengefulness & hatred that comes with being hurt from someone or something.
From did a great job here. The shaman village has had me thinking so much of who marika really was and how difficult a position she was in. She is inherently flawed, but i believe she really tried to make things a little better. It failed miserably and the world is in tatters....just so sad.
I love how in the music in the title screen has these same instruments with similar notes playing right before it becomes bombastic, I'd like to think that this whole time they where foreshadowing this moment in the village
Mah dude! Those were my EXACT same thoughts. Having heard the bombastic title screen music for years now, hearing this shaman village music feels like eternal calmness and softness, like my central nervous system finally finding relief
This place is submerging me in a sort of confort, i cant explain it, i feel like nothing can hurt me, if feel warm. I did not think a video game could bring such emotions, that is what i call art.
i'm in love with this DLC, i'm never coming back to the base game, praise the GOLD!!!!!!!!!
When I first discovered the Shaman village, the music somehow reminded me of the Dark souls 2 Majula days and it hit me twice as hard.
Lets give Fromsoft a hand of applause 👏🏾
"we are all.. we are all forsaken"
Time for bliss
And then
Sadness ahead
Its crazy that on the same map you have chill place like this and horror abyssal woods on the other
I sat here for 30 minutes after finishing the game
It was a strange feeling, but i am satisfied with elden Ring. It's over
This is were Marika was born and raised in
Seeing not only Marika's birthplace but also the Minor Erdtree spell here was so cool. Melina is the only other person besides Marika that is known to have used this spell, really showing how much Marika trusted Melina. Melina must have seen how, despite Marika believing that the Greater Will would help everyone, Marika and the subsequent Golden Order were slowly being turned into The Greater Will's pawns. This is probably what led to her and Ranni betraying her. This also might've led to Marika shattering the Elden Ring in a last-ditch attempt to help her children like Melina and Ranni, and maybe even as atonement for the Hornsent massacre to end the cycle of violence; she might've known that those two could help someone (the Tarnished) destroy the Greater Will or at least lessen its influence. It's possible that it might've even been the Radagon side of her that did the massacre while Marika was trying to rectify it, as it seems like Radagon was the one that was more in control when it came to the suffering of the people of the Lands Between and the adherence to the Greater Will in general.
I wish we got a bit more of Melina both in the main game and in the DLC; she's by far the most interesting character in the game imo, and I wanted to see if my theory that she was the Gloam-Eyed Queen was true :( The parallels between her and Messmer were super cool, though, especially how his essence references her! Glad we got more info on Marika, though. It really seems like she was also just a victim of Radagon and the Greater Will.
"destroy the Greater Will" 😂
"Why is it always despair.."
i go to this place and use my summon signs to help bosses lol this place is so beautiful 😭
Marika ... The next on my list of people I want to hug and tell: Everything will be alright...
I just want to remind you that she imprisoned the entire nation in the basement and let them rot there
Maybe a younger Marika, but she made her choices
Didn't expect that from this dlc, but.....
Damn you're about to multiply your subscriber count with this one.
I took a moment and explored the area because the music was so calming, I spent like 20 minutes just wandering.
Gives me Majula vibes. The quiet music, the wind and the inner peace you feel just standing/sitting there
So peaceful
it's really sad actually
It's both.
Miquella's basically a 2nd Marika that's why I think it's a good thing we put a stop to him he's honestly way more threatening than Marika since he can charm things and people freely to do his bidding whereas Marika achieved this by using War as her form of dominance and control although this area of the dlc and lore humanizes her for why she is the way she is its still not 100 percent justifiable as she ends up even doing worse things to people and races in the lands between in the future as the saying goes you either die a hero or live long enough to become the Villain
Same exact harp notes are in the elden beast fight (but some are repeated), makes the fact their body is the sword even more messed up.
Unpopular opinion: The Greater Will and the Golden Order are inherently good but it was the pride and selfishness of the demigods who created the conflict in the first place.
Judging by what we learn about Metyr, it's likely the Greater Will has not been involved at all with the events of the Lands Between. So likely a lot of the awful we see has happened is likely due to Metyr making stuff as it went along due to losing contact with the Greater Will upon it's arrival.
Idk why people say the greater will is evil. What bad thing has it literally ever done. Would you rather the whole world gets burnt by the frenzied flame? Whats the alternative?
That is literally Goldmask's conclusion if you read the mending rune of Perfect Order, "The current imperfection of the Golden Order, or instability of ideology, can be blamed upon the fickleness of the gods no better than men." It should be noted he found it, it isn't his own creation.
well no the golden order is, to everyone else not associated with it, a group of colonizers who can alter the rules of the world therefore erasing other cultures
@@crabberdabberye People associate it with the Golden Order and Marika the same way people associate God and Jesus(or really any deity) with the warmongers who utter their name. As what the dude above you said, the Greater Will was never involved in the Lands Between or hell, even the Shadowlands. It was likely gone as soon as Placidusax's god left.
This feels like a more solemnly more pleasant version of majula
Raw Nostalgia in musical form
It be might be wrong of me to say this but Marika was right in her hatered for the hornsent and the genocide she did was sort of justified but letting her own son take the brunt of it all was not the way , maybe that's why karma came to strike her back and her family
Well I don’t imagine genocide even was the right path. Considering her sons, Mohg and Margott are omens. Marika cannot catch a break.
I don't think genocide will ever be an answer to genocide, I sympathize with her and it's extremely sad and this place genuinely brought tears to my eyes but the cycle won't end unless someone makes that decision. Marika decided to not end it despite the atrocities commited, a task extremely difficult to do I can only imagine but one that is necessary In the grand scheme of everything.
Two wrongs don't make a right but it is important to see and understand why that wrong came to be considered as an option.
I don't think it's a justifiable response, but I completely understand how it got to that point.
Hell yea. Marika is doing those goat people a favor. Who wants to live with horns coming out of your eyes anyway?
so sad and peaceful
Marika still a heartless witch tho
TRUE!
This song gives the same vibes as gats, from berserk
Ash lake vibes
doesnt it sound like elden beast without the choir?
We’re all is begin.
Why did we all use the same armor
Plin plin
😢
peak
i wanna live with her here
instead of standing there, why not emote in a meditative position? /:
how do i tag op, i'd do it myself but i can't get the dlc yet.
Death ahead
Spoilers for the DLC ahead in my comment.
The Mindless Menace of Violence is at the heart of this game. It tells the story of generational trauma inflicted on a poor young girl against her people, and how she used her hatred and fear to birth a new world order on the bones of the old, but in so doing inflicted that same generational trauma upon her enemies and sewed the seeds for her family to suffer for her actions. I don't believe Marika is evil. I don't believe any of the demigods are evil. They're just people, at the end of the day, who suffered pain, and when you suffer pain it's easy to justify your actions as retribution for that pain regardless of who else you hurt in the process.
It's precisely why I am so disappointed in Fromsoft's ending for this DLC. Miquella could have proven Ymir wrong; proven everyone wrong by opening a way forward for the entire world to heal. For his family to come to terms with their trauma, and move forward without the Greater Will. Without the Golden Order.
I was hoping for Miquella to be an RFK analogue, but no he just turned out to be a Griffith analogue and I hate it.
It's not that Miquella was "just Griffith", he still had a plan. He wanted the world to be a better and kinder place, and usher in an age of compassion. He was willing to go to extreme means to do so, like resurrecting Radahn and abandoning his body. Still, he's not in the right. An age of compassion would only work if he had stolen the hearts of everyone, making them more easily swayed to peace.
I don't think Miquella is a poorly done character (even though his obsession with Radahn is a little strange) but he does suffer the flaw of not drawing a line. He's a hypocrite with a commendable goal.
No, he definitely did not "turn out to be just Griffith", because he is misguided (perhaps due to nature of his power and because his existence as Marika's child was "flawed" from the start) and not malicious. One can critique all that Radahn business, but "Miquella is literally Hit- I MEAN GRIFFITH" is one brain-dead take, sorry.
@@willr.1495 Miquella aimed to become a god of gentleness. He longed for a world where gentleness was given to everyone indiscriminately. However, in such a world, love cannot exist because love creates disparity and leads people to hate that, which threatens what they love. The path to godhood requires purifying the ideal you wish to embody, which meant Miquella had to discard his own impurities in order to become a god of gentleness, including his love. This would have turned Miquella into a loveless god, condemned to live in a loveless world-a prison of his own making. Thus, his ideals were flawed from the start.
@@niki_bbb you didn't need to be an ass I'm my replies.
Thank you for your reply!
The point that I'm trying to make is that they're similar in the vein that they are willing to do anything and everything to get what they want. Griffith ends up betraying everybody and hurting those who cared about him in order to achieve what he wanted. Miquella is similar in that regard. I didn't mean to make it sound as if I thought they were the same character. They are not, you're right. But they can be completely different characters while still retaining similar characteristics. That's all. I meant to say it by that.
Can't hear sht
Sadness ahead