I never thought I would see ssl make a console that's 50k. Well done guys this is a smart move and have no recall or automation means that even 30 years from now the console will still work.
For anyone wondering if this sounds like a real 4K, I can't answer that but I can tell you that the dozens of capacitors in the audio path on each channel + the old 5534 opamps are no longer used in the modern SSL's, including this one. The 9K forward dropped the caps in the audio path and gave a cleaner sound known as SuperAnalogue. Dropping these parts lowered the maintenance needed but also dropped the classic sound that you may love or hate. I'm very curious what they've achieved with the transistor/FET arrangement in the Origin. And yes, no automation and recall makes this non-usable for large format studios. The lack of channel dynamics section can be compensated with a rack of 500 series or X-rack dynamics. Still a clever design and there absolutely is a valid market for this new desk.
@@JJDPROMEDIAPRODUCTION They're both great desks. I must say though, stock from the factory, the G+ desks are the one for the history books! Even an older E series can be taken to another level with the many ways to mod it. Can even be made to retain the "balls" of an E with the clarity of a 9k.
I love that they kept the monitor path!!! It’s like doubling your inputs! Everyone taking about “no moving faders” they sucked!! They broke constantly sometimes just moving on their own. Also I’m sure it would’ve been a major cost to add motors to every fader.
4000G is fantastic. Love how you have everything you need like dynamic section on each channel and recall (if you use it.) I guess if you sell your 4000G you could buy this console and have money for an X-Rack with dynamics but it's still missing a computer.
This is everything I've been looking for in a seemingly perfect arrangement. I will own one by this time next year, or as soon as I sell my current desk.
7:10 Freddy said “you could integrate with a Sigma right into this automation is necessary and you’d be able for example to automate those groups right inside your digital workstation users using the Delta plug-in, so nothing is out of the ordinary here it’s typical SSL.” But the ridiculous thing is that SSL discontinued Sigma.
So basically SLL is doing an Audient desk without the crazy routing capabilities with API's unity gain button. for +/- 50k. Smart but add another 15k for a pathcbay... Wondering how it sounds when hit hard.
Hi Fadi, You make mention of the ability to integrate the SSL Sigma into the center section if there is the need of automation. But what about the possibility of integrating the Nucleus 2? That (IMHO,) could offer an even more extensive integration of DAW usage/control and automation for potential clients who may consider this console. Also, the current client base of Nucleus 2 users would have a natural path of progression, while extending the viability and life of both products. Thoughts?
This is probably more of a suggestion for SSL, but that is a great idea! I am not sure if it is possible from a product design stand point, but feel free to reach out if we can help out with any other questions. Thanks! Jason Filloramo, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1281, Jason_Filloramo@sweetwater.com
I see Midas desks selling for $1500 that are true Midas British made analog consoles. I’m not sure why they think this is appealing. I’m sure it sounds good but I think the world is over an 8’ 250lb desk.
I wonder if i will get this one or a used 4046 G special edition, which is the same console that Brian Hood & Will Putney have in their studios for mixing ?
I'm fine with no fader automation and using the 0db option to set levels in the daw but SSL really dropped the ball with no recall for the knobs, especially the EQs.
coffeehigh420 I didn’t say all I said “not on a REAL desk”. SSLs, NEVEs, APIs the big boys try to keep you in the sweet spot. That’s how you know a board is meant for mixing.
JJDPRO MEDIAPRODUCTION ....looks like they were taken out of the channels and moved to the centre of the console (I saw about 8 of them). Most likely able to insert or sidechain them. :)
@@L.Scott_Music Sigma is a rackmounted unit which provides automation as an insert, which can really be used on any console, not just SSL. Sigma can also be used a summing box. Just don't expect any vibe out of the Sigma if not used with a console.
Haha.. Dude.. It's 2020, why the hell would console automation be a must? Most of people automate in the DAW anyway. Channel Compressors? 90% of the consoles don't have channel compressors anyway (unless it's a large format SSL, Neve or API). Their point is clear: they made a brand new simple 32ch analogue inline desk with excellent signal flow functions (and really smart work flow), with good preamps and EQs, that won't cost you a kidney. It's exactly what most of studios need.
Im new into this stuff..... my questions is.... is this the same thing like a dj mixer ? The only difference, it has more channels. In total of 32 and each channel has its own effects ... same thing in ableton only difference its digital not tangible
Not worth it in today's age. For $20k, I can build an analog setup that will sound just as good, if not better. No onboard compression is a huge turn-off. Track vocals with a Neve Shelford Channel. Track drums with an Apollo X8 and UAD plugins. Mix everything with SSL Native Plugins. Master the song with the SSL Fusion.
The recall is still a bitch...!!......LOL I wish all the knobs were all automatable , So when you save a session and then come back to it a week or month later you can recall the entire console. I guess people are still going to have to use Bernoulli Disk and lots and lots of paper & Ink and take 2 hours to recall the desk. And even then, it wont be exactly the same as when you left it. This is why back in the day, Major recording artists locked the room sessions down for days and even weeks, Because they knew that they wouldnt get the exact recall back the way the song was left off. Yes it has flying faders, but the rest still remains un-automated, in this day in age of 2019 going on 2020 and beyond. I will always love SSL, but im seeing a lot of people buying AVID S6 more than SSL,, Neve or any other analogue desk. People want to recall their desk without taking several hours to do so.
how much it is gonna cost :D 20% of audio engineer able to pay that money for a console such as a neve ams or SSL... thank god we have daw comes with stock plugins...
wtf im laughing. Just... a whole fucking analog studio mixing whatever console, for 50K, so most people cant afford it, and most people arent producers, and most of those arent serious producers that will spend a lot of money on equipment. Most people will never think of buying this in their life and those who do are a small number but its being advertised and shown just like its a normal mass-produced guitar. I love this marketing, omg.
I was waiting to hear “only $99k”
Well done SSL
I never thought I would see ssl make a console that's 50k. Well done guys this is a smart move and have no recall or automation means that even 30 years from now the console will still work.
In 30 years from now, we won’t need to get out of bed. Logic Pro will compose for us 😀
So I was mixing on my SSL console the other day, and then disaster struck, I woke up.
It was a dream?
@@experiment0003 lol, yeah you got it. I was playing around. BTW I was recording Ariana Grande too haha
😂
soon,we're all get this things in real
I bought a used ssl matrix and fell in love and will never turn back after originally learning on a G and J series.
OMG this console is a game changer. Wow. Always love the sound of 4Ks.
For anyone wondering if this sounds like a real 4K, I can't answer that but I can tell you that the dozens of capacitors in the audio path on each channel + the old 5534 opamps are no longer used in the modern SSL's, including this one. The 9K forward dropped the caps in the audio path and gave a cleaner sound known as SuperAnalogue. Dropping these parts lowered the maintenance needed but also dropped the classic sound that you may love or hate. I'm very curious what they've achieved with the transistor/FET arrangement in the Origin. And yes, no automation and recall makes this non-usable for large format studios. The lack of channel dynamics section can be compensated with a rack of 500 series or X-rack dynamics. Still a clever design and there absolutely is a valid market for this new desk.
I love the sound of both. Both (9k' and 4k') have a wonderful wide summing. With the 4k having a nice colored sonic print/ But, so does the 9k.
@@JJDPROMEDIAPRODUCTION They're both great desks. I must say though, stock from the factory, the G+ desks are the one for the history books! Even an older E series can be taken to another level with the many ways to mod it. Can even be made to retain the "balls" of an E with the clarity of a 9k.
I just got the 9k
@@mikej6565 Thanks Mike.
Is it Mike Johnson from Cleartrack Studios speaking? Lol
I love that they kept the monitor path!!! It’s like doubling your inputs! Everyone taking about “no moving faders” they sucked!! They broke constantly sometimes just moving on their own. Also I’m sure it would’ve been a major cost to add motors to every fader.
I think the pricing is absolutely incredible
Very reasonably priced considering the legendary pedigree of SSL and _THAT_ sound! (But, I’ll stick with my 4000G+ for now) .... :)
4000G is fantastic. Love how you have everything you need like dynamic section on each channel and recall (if you use it.) I guess if you sell your 4000G you could buy this console and have money for an X-Rack with dynamics but it's still missing a computer.
This is everything I've been looking for in a seemingly perfect arrangement. I will own one by this time next year, or as soon as I sell my current desk.
Please let us know how you like it. It’s a lot console for $50.k 32 channels holyshit!
That Board Is A Monster !!!!!!!
I just need 30 More thousands
Partner up with friends. Makes it much easier to afford with a team of engineers.
A Mack Classic lolz dreams. Not where I’m from, great idea doh.
Start an only fans 👌🏾
No dynamics on the channels is a bit sad
Yes. Please get rid of preamp and swap with a comp.
7:10 Freddy said “you could integrate with a Sigma right into this automation is necessary and you’d be able for example to automate those groups right inside your digital workstation users using the Delta plug-in, so nothing is out of the ordinary here it’s typical SSL.”
But the ridiculous thing is that SSL discontinued Sigma.
Legend of Legned...
Awesome !!!!
We still love older ssl .. 4000 or 8000 0r j or k even duelty delta ,
We need 48 channels and dynamics on each
Seriously great looking desk.
I just miss the wireless smartphone charger in the blank spot at 1:56 tho.
(Kidding kidding!
When I'm rich, mark my words!!!
Another note. I wonder if they will release a Pure Drive Plugin with their SSL Bundle on WAVES.
Justin Omoi Maybe their native plugins as well 🤔
@@LilBlazar I'm glad that my videos can help ^_^ One day yeah! Soon as I can get this weight offa myself, I'll be exploding in no time.
@@Boissinova True that!
So basically SLL is doing an Audient desk without the crazy routing capabilities with API's unity gain button. for +/- 50k. Smart but add another 15k for a pathcbay... Wondering how it sounds when hit hard.
That was my first reaction as well. “Oh Look they’ve built an Audient”
Plus another $4500.00 for a Sigma for automating the groups using the Delta (VST,AU AAX) plugin.
How is that similar. E series Eq is very unique. Love Audient as well .this console hopefully sounds like 4K.
49,999 is not bad! How many channels ???
I'm about to get one
It's over rated should up grade my pro tools and mac
I'm exited about this.
I need to find a tresure. Where to looking for?
Very good presenter
Here I am with my scarlet 18i20
It’s a cool interface though i use a Presonus Firestudio Project
Lol here I am with my 2i2
That backdrop is giving me flashbacks
There's one knob dynamics on big six but not here?
Hi Fadi,
You make mention of the ability to integrate the SSL Sigma into the center section if there is the need of automation. But what about the possibility of integrating the Nucleus 2? That (IMHO,) could offer an even more extensive integration of DAW usage/control and automation for potential clients who may consider this console. Also, the current client base of Nucleus 2 users would have a natural path of progression, while extending the viability and life of both products. Thoughts?
This is probably more of a suggestion for SSL, but that is a great idea! I am not sure if it is possible from a product design stand point, but feel free to reach out if we can help out with any other questions. Thanks!
Jason Filloramo, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1281, Jason_Filloramo@sweetwater.com
Am I the only one that doesn’t like the fact that it doesn’t have moving faders?
you can probably put flying faders into it
@@matthijsblomjous3671 The solution is called SSL Sigma
FrancisJoa or that, yeah
@Etienne Rallu And then the board costs 80.000- 90.000,- Euros like the SSl AWS900.
I see Midas desks selling for $1500 that are true Midas British made analog consoles. I’m not sure why they think this is appealing. I’m sure it sounds good but I think the world is over an 8’ 250lb desk.
when are they gonna jump on the wagon of making a master buss comp with a side chain????????
Come on SSL, my X32 has LCD scribble displays.
Recall?
"original wonderfulness"
Dream board
Is this a digital/analogue mixer?
Origin or AWS what you guys prefer?
I wonder if i will get this one or a used 4046 G special edition, which is the same console that Brian Hood & Will Putney have in their studios for mixing ?
So are there no group inserts?
is it motorized ?
Should have dynamics
Does anyone know
Will it come in more channels? like it has 36 but can there be about 72 or sth?
Hello again, Fadi =]
Next year I will buy this instead of changing car. I’ll be on foot but hey......
Bully Dully lol. Me too
Nice
no moving faders its 2019!
WHAT IS THE NAME OF THOSE STUDIO MONITORS BACK THERE???
pmc audio
Hello, how are you. I need to buy a used duality ssl unit. Do you know anyone who is selling
I Don't have mixing console in this moment.
I'm fine with no fader automation and using the 0db option to set levels in the daw but SSL really dropped the ball with no recall for the knobs, especially the EQs.
can anybody tell what monitors r placed behind the origin?
PMC TwoTwo Speakers.
There were 5, 6 and 8 inch versions
What price do these start at.. ball park?
I just searched.. Looks like 50K
7:45
*0:26* HE WASN'T EVEN CLOSE TO WHAT CAME IN MARCH..
Price
he says the price
One day....
hmmm, where is the master fader ? usually the last fader on the far right but don't see one here.
2:27 .... Black fader in middle of console... :)
@@Iam_Dunn lol ok ok ... i was wondering
Lololol not on a real desk it’s always in the master section hence master fader. The master section is always in the middle.
@@ryand4533 lololol Ryan, not ALL mixing consoles are built with that style. so not 'ALWAYS" in the middle (lololol)
coffeehigh420 I didn’t say all I said “not on a REAL desk”. SSLs, NEVEs, APIs the big boys try to keep you in the sweet spot. That’s how you know a board is meant for mixing.
Where are the channel compressors?
JJDPRO MEDIAPRODUCTION ....looks like they were taken out of the channels and moved to the centre of the console (I saw about 8 of them). Most likely able to insert or sidechain them. :)
@@Iam_Dunn Thanks.
through ins. coming from the middle of the desk that's full of dynamics modules
I'd be interested in hearing about the recall abilities.
This console lacks both recall and auto.
But he did say SIGMA was an option. I assume that's an automation system. (Hmm, I'll go look that up.)
@@L.Scott_Music Sigma is a rackmounted unit which provides automation as an insert, which can really be used on any console, not just SSL. Sigma can also be used a summing box. Just don't expect any vibe out of the Sigma if not used with a console.
Put a DDJ 400 in comparison on that deck hahaha
$50,000 for this is *unbelievable*
The going rate for such a console use pad to be deep into six figures.
Explain to me why this thing is 50,000 dollars please?
not convinced. no automation and no channel compression. meh
Haha.. Dude.. It's 2020, why the hell would console automation be a must? Most of people automate in the DAW anyway.
Channel Compressors? 90% of the consoles don't have channel compressors anyway (unless it's a large format SSL, Neve or API).
Their point is clear: they made a brand new simple 32ch analogue inline desk with excellent signal flow functions (and really smart work flow), with good preamps and EQs, that won't cost you a kidney.
It's exactly what most of studios need.
are u kidding me?! i have to put tape on a console of this quality and price to name the channels?!😳🤔
Lel Cecc and no flying faders!
The Ssl sharpie and Ssl masking tape combo package is only $999
But the real question is why aren’t the io dsubs in the back labeled?
Im new into this stuff..... my questions is.... is this the same thing like a dj mixer ? The only difference, it has more channels. In total of 32 and each channel has its own effects ... same thing in ableton only difference its digital not tangible
hummm still chinese made ! so i guess there will be a $ 5000 version knock off coming soon , way to go china !
drop a link then
Fr
oh to be rich...(and have a bigger room)
Much more affordable than the big old desks. The lower operating costs also worth noting.
@@mikej6565 I haven't seen an RRP, but I'd wager it's still out of my range..got to be c. 20-25k surely?
@@braincoral9866 $50k and it plugs straight into a single outlet, no machine room needed.
Not worth it in today's age. For $20k, I can build an analog setup that will sound just as good, if not better. No onboard compression is a huge turn-off.
Track vocals with a Neve Shelford Channel. Track drums with an Apollo X8 and UAD plugins. Mix everything with SSL Native Plugins. Master the song with the SSL Fusion.
A cool console but extremely irrelevant mixing out of the box in this scale with no recall is death in 5 years
It's not much of an issue for everyone. I personally don't work with desk automation much even when its available. Recall would be nice though.
Isn't it mainly used for tacking..
@@davideats9255 Recall is very important, little let down for me, love to have recall!
Service I am
With no automation, no recall, no dynamics and for 50k. Just a waste of money
The recall is still a bitch...!!......LOL
I wish all the knobs were all automatable , So when you save a session and then come back to it a week or month later you can recall the entire console.
I guess people are still going to have to use Bernoulli Disk and lots and lots of paper & Ink and take 2 hours to recall the desk.
And even then, it wont be exactly the same as when you left it. This is why back in the day, Major recording artists locked the room sessions down for days and even weeks,
Because they knew that they wouldnt get the exact recall back the way the song was left off.
Yes it has flying faders, but the rest still remains un-automated, in this day in age of 2019 going on 2020 and beyond.
I will always love SSL, but im seeing a lot of people buying AVID S6 more than SSL,, Neve or any other analogue desk. People want to recall their desk without taking several hours to do so.
China.... really
The days of low quality chinese productions are gone, China now is producing top quality for half the price
Has nothing to do with how they make the product. Damn coms
how much it is gonna cost :D 20% of audio engineer able to pay that money for a console such as a neve ams or SSL... thank god we have daw comes with stock plugins...
Amer Darwich ...stated in vid $49,999.00 USD
wtf im laughing. Just... a whole fucking analog studio mixing whatever console, for 50K, so most people cant afford it, and most people arent producers, and most of those arent serious producers that will spend a lot of money on equipment. Most people will never think of buying this in their life and those who do are a small number but its being advertised and shown just like its a normal mass-produced guitar. I love this marketing, omg.