Macedonian Empire Vs Athens & Thebes: Battle of Chaeronea 338 BC | Cinematic
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The Battle of Chaeronea was fought in 338 BC, near the city of Chaeronea in Boeotia, between Macedonia under Philip II and an alliance of city-states led by Athens and Thebes.
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If Netflix gave you a million bucks for a documentary series, it would be worth every penny. Awesome job!
They'd make the Greeks sub Saharans
@@firstnamelastname42069 lol brilliant
@nathancreel1311 yeah like what they're doing with Cleopatra.
Anything done in Hollywood or Netflix is garbage.
Lol
Title of the Video: Macedonian Empire Vs Athens & Thebes: Historical Battle of Chaeronea 338BC | Hellenic Wars Cinematic
thats already a better title then the title of the video. its confusing to separate the macedonians from the other greeks like the title of this video does. why people still do this...
Macedonia was at this time truly a force to be reckoned with, Phillip learned much from the likes of Epaminondas and Pammenes of Thebes. Phillip turned Macedon from a back water relatively weak and unimportant Greek Kingdom, to the mightiest power in the Hellenic, and known world. Astonishing.
Thank you for the video.
I'm going to be remastering this video in the future, I think itll be twice as good
@WarAndHistory. I'll be here for it mate.
Yeah those 16 foot spears kept the Hoplites at bay on a skewer.
Not a "Greek" anything, but sure
@hellfruit5612 Save for the fact that they self identified as Hellenes, and their land as Hellas, spoke Greek, wrote Greek, worshipped Greek Gods, descended from Greek tribes, and participated in the exclusively Greek Olympic games, and were identified as Hellenes by friend and foe alike, if not Greek then what?
One of my fave battles. I heard Alexander was only 17 here weeks before he turned 18. He had proved himself as a Regent at age 16 when Phillip II left for Byzantine. Sensing the weakness of a teen, some men staged a rebellion. Alexander organized a task force and squashed it, impressing his father and everyone by his leadership and courage and skill. They say he had a magnetic personality and could lead a team well.
Glorious battle! Very well done. Most TV documentaries could learn something from you. Also, thank you for reminding me of the times when I played the Europa Barbarorum mod for hours without end.
Jesus it doesn’t get more realistic than that does it ? Wonderful animation .
it's a game
total war rome 2 if im correct
@@rory6860 Oh i didn't know that. Thank you!
"Animation"? I thought it was surveillance. hehe
Well done, mate, fabulous video, please post more like this
Magnificent batlle!!! One od the bes od total war series!!!👍💪
Fun to watch, but to imagine actually being in such bloody battle is actually quite horrifying.
200 dead with 2k for the greeks.... actually not that bloody if you do think about it without the movie views creeping in. Civil War, Great War or WW2 battles were worse by far. The real hell scene would have been a city like Tyre, where Alexander put it to the sword after siege. Thousands of men women and children killed, thousands more raped and brutalized with survivors sold as slaves. Makes you long for the comparative safety of the battlefield.
@@katwooten905 It's part of human history and prehistory, probably began with the elimination of the Neanderthals. Mass murder has happened again & again. Today's woke horror of colonialization is amusing considering extermination often the alternative. My first shock to romanticising antiquity was what the "noble" Athenians did to Melos. Just wait until the "glories" of WWIII.
@@katwooten905 Or what he did to Thebes after Chaeronea, the near total destruction shocked the other Greek city-states. Alexander's army was not well funded either; they had to win to eat after this as they went south. They were broke. That changed when they got Darius's gold later.
Great video!
That is an incredible animation awesome!!
With some rare satellite footage, I think. ;)
Brilliant thanks
Good job mate love your work from Macedonia 🇲🇰
This is about the ancient Greek Kingdom of Macedonia and not the Former Yugoslav SLavic Republic of North Macedonia.
@@rafaellagaribaldi9391 filip King macedonian grek 🖕🖕🖕
@@rafaellagaribaldi9391 These people are delusional with their Japanese flag. There is no ‘Ski’ in the Macedonian language. They arrived I the area 600AD and they claim to be descendants of Alexander.
Make Vardaska Great Again instead of trying to steal other people history
This has nothing to do with your slavic background. Get a life
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Glad to see Kaisa still creating Epic cinematics after all these years !
Missed the times of yours and Wolfmans machinimas XD
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@@KaisaMachinimas 👴"Too Old to Rock ’n’ Roll Too Young to Die"👴
The narrator did a great job on this one!
This is one of yours best! Exelent Works!👍
Excellent work!!!!!!!!
My friend, you got yourself many compliments to your work and a new subscriber!
Lets gooooooo, finally get to see Philip in all his glory
wonderful debate with "japanhouse" out of 157 responses, I learned everything about Greeks and Slavs since antiquity... Congratulations to those involved!
So you learned first hand, the b.s. we Greek must endure from others who try to claim our history. Twisting words and stories and whatever they can. Keep lying is their strategy. Greeks votes for them for many reasons. To be able to access the world. To learn what is the truth. They can't handle it obviously.
Excelent video as always
The battle of Chaeronea was a battle between the allied Greek states of Thessaly, Macedonia, Argos and Arcadia.........VS............the allied Greek states of Athens, Thebes and Corinth etc
Bull shit.. -" GREEKS don't know how to win"- said Philip during the battle.
@@branislavpavlovic9918 Actually Philip never said that. Its actually you saying that. Philip actually procaimed proudly that he was Greek and wished to be the 'hegemon' - leader of all the Greeks.
@@JapanMonAmourTheJapanHouse actually you would love he didn't say that. Actually he did x and you will find it if you read more. You will also find lines as : " In the Alexander's army , there are two confronted nations, MACEDONIANS and HELLENS." ( Buy glasses 🤓)
Please inform me when you do find those lines in history sources. Ok?
@@branislavpavlovic9918 No he didn't. And lets quote Professor Donald Kagan, Sterling professor of Greek history, Yale University. *_"The Macedonians claimed very proudly, powerfully and insistently that they were Greeks"_*
Isocratis one of the most famous tutors was convincing Athenians to follow Philip as the greek leader of all Greeks, and just read what Alexander the great told, the greatest Macedonian of all, if Macedon was greek or not: In a letter that Alexander sent to the Persian king Darius III of Persia in response to a truce plea he said: your ancestors came to Macedonia and the rest of Hellas [Greece] and did us great harm, though we had done them no prior injury. I have been appointed leader of the Greeks, and wanting to punish the Persians I have come to Asia, which I took from you”
Arrian, Anabasis of Alexander II, 14, 4
There was a civil war between Greeks.
Peloponnesian civil war, that is Sparta versus Athenians ,was the worst and lasted 27 years.
pff greeks steal histroy
@@ballerina5876 he talking about war between macedons and other greek tribes
@@user-xw8sp7cx5r Το απαγορευει η θρησκεια κυριε να αναφερουμε τους πολεμους μεταξυ Ελληνικων πολεων-κρατων ή σου θιξαμε την τιμη και την υποληψη;
There's always a civil war in Greece 😅
This is good battle executed with clear views.
'Calvary is the hammer and infantry is the anvil.' King Philip II of Macedon.
Macedonia 💪💪
Terrific video. Like being there. And I’m a professional historian of the ancient Mediterranean. Well done!
Thank you
are you a professional historian and do you agree with the opinion presented in the title that the macedonians were not greek? if you agree with this your educational and intellectual level is lower than amoeba.
art eckstein .Do you agree that what distinguishes the Makedonians from the rest of the Greeks? And you are also a historian unacceptable.
A very good history documentary and epic battle movie at the same time! Great!
he falsifies history and presents the Macedonians as non-Greek. The guy knows nothing about history.
In fact, the Athenians did manage to repel and push back the Macedonian right flank,it was not a King Philip's planned retreat.However the inexperienced Athenian commander in charge made a hasty decision and ordered his flank to pursue the Macedonian right flank, ignoring the warnings of his subordinates who advised maintaining their ground. This misstep was seized upon by Alexander, who capitalized on the opportunity to attack and flank the coalition army without his father's orders.
Realizing their mistake, the Athenians eventually fell back, but it was too late. However, they managed to retreat in an orderly manner. The casualties were relatively low for both sides because Philip, known as a military and political genius (some even claim he surpassed Alexander in this regard), aimed to win the sympathy of his fellow Greeks. He wanted them to support him against the Persian Empire, and he achieved this by demonstrating care for the fallen Athenian and Theban soldiers and releasing the prisoners.Amother reason is that It was always a bad and costly idea to attempt to completely destroy an army of hoplites once they had accepted defeat. Alexander failed to learn this lesson, and he paid the price in the future when he faced a Greek mercenary force fighting for the Persians. After their defeat, these mercenaries offered their services to Alexander, but he decided to eliminate them. In the subsequent battle, he lost more men than he had lost in his entire Asian expedition.
Alexander saw them as traitors so he killed them out of anger or to send a message. The losses were possibly worth the reward of all Greeks knowing they would be shown no mercy if they joined Persia.
Alexander learned his lesson. The Greeks his father spared were the core of those who revolted against his rule…and Alexander burned Thebes to the ground.
Amazing
Verey nice battle, I really like the in depth study of the information that is being provided of what happened during the battle.
Partially because of the newer game engine, and partially because these videos lack the cheesy "game show format", these are a hundred times better than Time Commanders. Not as funny for obvious reasons, but much much better.
Macedonia #1
History Greece wants you to forget
Wdym?
Why would greeks want to forget their own history?
@@t30dore59 Macedonia defeat United Greece
@@Euro.Patriot a kingdom of which both royals and peasants were speaking greek, believed the greek gods, participated in the Olympics, had greek names defeated Athens and Thebes. Buddy this is literally every day in the greek world. A battle royale if you want to say, in which the greek kingdom of ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝ came out on top.
If you want to speak about the supposed "macedonian language" you don't need to. The Pella curse tablet already shows enough. If you want me I can also debunk the new "macedonian" identity 👍
@@t30dore59 Video shows Macedonia defeating United Greece go Macedonia #1
@@Euro.Patriot find me a single ancient inscription in North "Macedonia" which isn't greek 🤡
Beautiful job 👏👏👏
The Macedonians are a super massive army.
Did you understand the formation of the flanks? Me too! 😅 Awesome video, nonetheless!👏👍
the cinematography is truly awesome here, as well as the voice acting
Just imagine if you can what it was like, to be standing side by side with your friends and family, in a slug fest with spear, sword and shield. What an absolutely horrible view. The screams the blood so thick you would lose your footing it was everywhere! I can’t even fathom to see such a spectacle. 😔
Right? Close to 70000 men slaughtering each other in literally hand to hand combat. It's absolutely terrifying
@@andreaspitsinis255 motivation?? One shudders to think what was in their minds.
@gmwwc fear , group think, imaging being on the front lines with a wall of men pushing you from behind. The Greeks managed a 10 to 20% casualty rate , by the time of Alexander he managed a 50% kill rate and by the time of the Romans close to 80% . Men butchering other men like cattle
Ποιος ανιστοριτος σχολιάζει;;;
Really good video ❤
Insane video! Like watching a documentary
Truly, the death and fight animation on Rome II are by far the best animation on all Total war, each time i'm amazed with that level of animation with thousand of soldiers. I hope in the next total war, we will see those features again
These battles wouldve been absolutely fucking nuts to see first hand
And more gruesome than the lame animations.
Very bad language
Ineed, very personal too, not like today where we majority fight and kill at a distance, this warfare was in close. You had to physically dispatch the man in front of you and so on, you looked the man in the eyes when you fought him, and If you killed him, or as he kills you.
I get into your channel by an accident when I was seeking battle of the great Hannibal. And damn me...keep on making those videos. As a passionate with history this is stunning to watch. The informations on each video is on point!
Nice battle i love Macedons👍🏻👌🏻
We love you too ,but we don't like greeks, the same like over 2000 years ago, that's the case even today, 🙋👌
Makedonet e lasht nuk kan të bëjn me Makedonet sllav...
Ata ishin Poppulli pellazg
We are lucky some of this ancient drone footage survived.
Oh wonderful video series !
Amazing, thank you for the many historical works💪🏿💯
It's a intentional lie he speaks!
Greek people would be so angry at ur documentary and title
thanks for stopping by 😎
History lover in general not just greek
i think greek or no greek , the title is not correct. its confusing to say the least for the ignorant.
Love the video's and the history
massive battle.
Another total war battles classic.
Thanks friend
@@WarAndHistory. stay real my brotha
Great stuff
Let’s get these vids back to recommended!!
Great video, sad that UA-cam dont help, its a shame
it is quite odd that no accounts refer to Antipater, Parmenion, Perdiccas, Poliperchon, Cleitus the Black and other generals and senior officers at Phillip's court. I'm sure they all - or almost all - were engaged in this battle, and yet no mentioning of them in any sources. It is especially strange as just 2-3 years from then, during Alexander's eastern campaign, the reports are so detailed about his army's formation, naming literally each battalion commander in every battle they held in Asia and India.
that would be another lesson, only so much can be crammed into 17 minutes, just saying
Concordo totalmente.
We have so many detailed information about Alexander's campaign because Anabasis of Alexander was written by Arrianus ,who was a military commander. It was written almost 4 centuries after Alexander the great but he had access to the original script of Ptolemy's "Alexander's Actions".
@@thanostnt correct! but the reasons of so so meagre data on Chaeronea still remain unclear. Hellenic world was a highly advanced society then, and their bureaucracy must have included scrutinized accounts on such an epochal event. If we can know that 300 Spartans "had been combing their hair the night before the last battle at Thermopylae" some 150 years hitherto, or the names of all and sundry Persian courtier during Xenophone's Anabasis, how come there's no mentioning of such outstanding figures as Parmenion and/or Antipater who - most probably - were around Phillip that day?
@@thanostnt See, this is why I LOVE ancient history.
Masterpiece
Great Job 👏 Congratulations and Greetings from Belgium 😉🇧🇪👋
Wonderfull job
Just one thing
Chaeronea should be pronunced with a C which sound like a K. It should has an hard sound
Молодцы . Красиво всё показали . Вот времена были .
Very nicely done. Good balance between overview and individual content. What about historically later periods - medieval - renaissance - English civil war - horse and musket? 😊
NO! Stay ancient!
@@gregorynixon2945 how about hybrids? The Italian wars were pike and cavalry with a classical feel and sometimes depicted so by their artists like Altderfer and his version of Arbela. Alexandrian battles would be good.
Historically wrong statements _ The Macedonias were Greek from the race of Dorians! This documentary is masking intentionally the truth!
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Topissimes comme d'hab ❤
Another selfish idiot who wants all of us language in anglosajón, All of the languages are correct to express the situation
Always a solid way to tell these stories.
Really immersive.
Beautiful, very very BEAUTIFULL
Wonderful!
Amazing ❤
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"... not only no Greek, nor related to the Greeks, but not even a barbarian from any place that can be named with honors, but a pestilent knave from Macedonia, whence it was never yet possible to buy a decent slave" - Demosthenes, Third Philippic, 31. The famous words that this Greek orator from Athens used to describe the Macedonian king Philip II, the father of Alexander the Great, prior to Philip’s conquest of Greece.
Καλό είναι ο κυριος papaya takla να πάει στα μουσεία της Θεσσαλονίκης των Αιγών του Δίου και να διαβάσει τις επιτύμβιας στήλες αν μπορεί η να τις δει μόνο και στην συνέχεια να έρθει στην Αθήνα στο αρχαιολογικό μουσείο να δει την γραφή στις επιτύμβιας στήλες και θα διαπιστώσει ότι όλοι Μακεδόνες Δωριείς Αιωλεις Ίωνες πελαργοί όλοι μιλούσαν και έγραφαν μια γλώσσα την ΕΛΛΗΝΙΚΗ
This is the show I wish netflix or history channel(not that they do history any more) would pick up
10 out of 10 there are some new greek hd and rome hd mods def worth checking out as well
Very, very well done.
Excellent video, like being there in the middle of chaos. I myself am a historian too, and I appreciated a lot the accuracy of the narrative. The Macedonians same like the Persians and Egyptians were considered by the ancient Greex as 'Barbarians' - i.e. foreigners, 'those who don't speak' their language. Truly apart from today politically-biased narratives that promote the 19th century created new identities and nations. Well done indeed!
As usual, the same disgusting lies from the Slavo-Bulgarians.
Only Demosthenes called them barbarians, in an attempt to save the Athenian Republic.
Macedonians were and are only from Greek origin.
They took part in the Olympic games. Only Greeks could participate.
According to ancient texts, they were considered Greeks by the Persians.
They spoke a Greek dialect (proof " the katadesmos of Pella)
and another proof : they spread the Greek language and culture.
You came in the area 800 years later ,please shut the fuck up,you Bulgarian blooded liar
Not exactly, The southern Greeks did not look on the Macedonians like they did the Persians and Egyptians. The southern Greeks accepted the Macedonians as 100% Greeks, and the Macedonians themselves proclaimed proudly and forcefuly and insistently that they were Greeks.The term 'barbarian' had many meanings in ancient Greece it also meant Backward and uncivilised and or speaking in a rough and vulgar dialect of Greek. Athenians also called Spartans and Elians barbarians to name but a few. So Macedonians were labelled as backward and uncivilised because they were a monarchy and did not have a Poleis citizen state structure.
before milion
Will you be doing a series on the Three Kingdoms?
Fantastic video
A civil war. Greek tribes of the North (Macedonians and others) vs. Greek cities of the South...
Macedonians are greeks like Athenians , Spartans etc..
This was one more battle for domination over the Greek world , just like the peloponnesian war and so many other battles between the greek states .
The title is misleading ..
go cry vasilis macedonia is not greek u are steling monkeys
"Sacred Band" - nicely dodged.
Awesome and entertaining video 😊
But it was recommended to me the moment I opened the App
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It wasn't Macedons Vs Greeks, it was Greeks Vs Greeks.
No amount of reason will shake modern Greek faith in the Hellenic ethnicity of the ancient Macedonians and their kings. It is more than a political prefer ence: many Greeks see it as a necessity, despite the inconclusive ancient evidence on the nationality of the Macedonians. But recent scholarship has begun to provide a response to old Greek arguments. There is an insufficient amount of evidence-the existence of Greek inscriptions in the kingdom of the Macedonians notwithstand ing-to know what the native language or dialect was. E.g., several dialects of Greek were used in ancient Macedonia, but what was the Macedonian dialect? The evidence of ancient writers suggests that Greek and Macedonian were mutually unintelligible languages in the court of Alexander the Great. Moreover, if contemporary or his torical opinion from antiquity means anything, the ancient world from the fourth century B.C. into the early Hellenistic period-roughly the age of Philip and Alexan der-believed that the Greeks and Macedonians were different peoples. None of which, incidentally, denies that the Macedonians, at least in their court and gentry, were quite highly hellenized, as recent archaeology has clearly shown. See E. Badian, "Greeks and Macedonians," Macedonia and Greece in Late Classical and Early Hellenis tic Times, Studies in the History of Art 10, ed. B. Barr-Sharrar and E. N. Borza (Wash ington, D.C., 1982). 33-51: Eugene N. Borza, In the Shadow of Olympus: The Emergence of Macedon, rev. ed. (Princeton, 1992), ch. 4 and pp. 305-6; id., "Athenians, Mace donians, and the Origins of the Macedonian Royal House," in Studies in Attic Epigra phy, History, and Topography Presented to Eugene Vanderpool, Hesperia suppl. 19 (1982). 713: id., "Ethnicity and Cultural Policy at Alexander's Court." AncW 23 (1992):
1999. The eye expanded. Berkeley, Calif.: University of California Press, p.263.
@@papazataklaattiranimam go back to sleep
THE WHOLE TITLE IS WRONG.ACTUALY MACEDONIA-NIANS ARE GREEKS... they butched up parts of history...Athens-Theves-Sparta-Corinthus-Plataees-Macedonia-Mycenaes-Thessaly-Epirus were Cities-States AND THEY WERE ALL GREEKS.Of course they fought each other ..just for training against Persia all together except Sparta for one battle or so. ..I Liked it tho tbh!
thanks for your friendly feedback 👍
@@WarAndHistory. You are so very welcome ..I suggest the name of the title to change a bit like to be more topicistic,i mean for ex. Macedons Phalanx VS Athenians or smthing like this.Greeks is a very general call.
I don;t get these old world battle tactics, but they are fun to watch..
Battle of Chaeronea was fought between the allied Greek states of Argos, Macedonia, Thessaly and Arcadia AGAINST the allied Greek states of Athens Thebes Corinth Megara Achaea and Chalcis.
Macedonians are Greeks and Greeks are Macedonians. That battle was between cities of Greece.
Impressive, what is your CPU? I want to build a PC only for play Total war with many Men
Greek history is always fascinating
Connais tu vraiment l histoire par tes propres recherches
Ou tu connais ce que ont nous raconte depuis 17-18 siècle
Le nome grece n existant pas à l époque
Tu veux rire ce que ont appelle aujourd’hui grece eux même ils déteste ce nome
Ça n’a jamais existé
Ils été tous ilirian
@@pellazgbejleri1658get in line, there’s many nations envious and claim the Greek history .
Great video. Alexander the Great was only 18 years old here and this was his very first ever battle. It's a testament to his brilliance how he was able to not only lead his men, but how he was able to spot the gap in the Athenian and Theban line ans how he knew to order his infantry on the Macedonian right to attack the Athenian and Theban left flank head on while he and the cavalry exploited the gap and attacked the Thebans from the rear. It was a brilliant move that won them the battle.
what do you mean by Great Video? The Macedonian Empire did not Conquer Greece. A city-state called Macedonia conquered the rest of the City States. The Roman Empire conquered Greece. The Ottoman Empire conquered Greece. When the Spartans attained Hegemony over Greece, we don't say the Spartan Empire conquered Greece.
@ektorpolykandriotis635 it's a great video because he did a great job visually showing it, it was very easy to understand what happened. I know the Macedonians were Greek.
The way Alexander leading his cavalary across the field between Macedon army and Greek lines is great
@@ahmarelvirgio823 both belligerents were Greek.
@@ektorpolykandriotis635 To be accurate , it was not "a city state". It was a Greek/Hellenic kingdom, that united the rest of the Greeks , with the aim to attack Persia. The unification of course was violent. In Greece/Hellas, there were many different political statues at the time, there were city-states, there were kingdoms too (like the Macedonian kingdom [Μακεδονικό βασίλειο] and the kingdom of Ήπειρος , where Pyrros [Πύρρος] became a king some years later). The re were also Greeks in north Italy and the whole Sicily, usually in city states. Those Greeks were not part of the political unification that Philip and Alexander did, they had their own problems with Romans and Carthage , they did not care about Persia.
Word Greece : is Alexander creation. Macedonia is Greek .
what mod is for the sacred band?
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They were not called "Companion" they were called "Hetteroi" which means Companions... Why you avoid calling them with Greek names. Liek you do with Hypaspists.
Sarissa pikemen were called "Phalangites" ...another Greek word.
i sthis documentary or what.
We called them phalangites you NPC
@@WarAndHistory. npc ?
it means you're braindead
@@WarAndHistory. roflmao Dude when you go to the public you must accept criticism.
Documentary is a about facts persons and places.
@@WarAndHistory.Nice response.Calling brain-dead someone in tour channel, who dared to state the obvious.What an asshole
Hi friend, how did you record your game? I mean by what application?
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The Macedonians were anxious to assert their Greekness (the Athenian orator Demosthenes called them barbarians), but their own language (apparently unintelligible to other Greeks) lacked the cultural prestige to match their imperial ambitions.
New Testament Greek: A Reader (Reading Greek) by Joint Association of Classical Teachers (Author) pp.204
*doesnt elaborate on the countless Athenian orators having a completely opposite opinion*
*proceeds to quote the Bible that literally doesn't make a distinction between the Macedons and the rest of the Greeks*
completely ignoring that the official language of Macedon at the time was Attic Greek.
During soccer matches Athenians today will call Thessalonikeans "Bulgarians". It is a derogatory term. Thessalonikeans call Athenians of Olympiacos "smelt" or "gavros" which is a tiny fish. In your genius analysis that is proof that people who live in Athens are actually fish. The Macedonians participated in the Olympics. Only Greeks could do that. There are infinite other references (Alexander's answer to Darius for example) that prove beyond doubt that Macedonians were and are as Greeks as anyone can be.
Go read Daniel 8:1-27 and come back to me more educated. There (in bible) Alexander the Great is referred by archangel Gabriel as the GREEK King and Macedonia as the Greek Kingdom! *Mic drop*
you are just laughable with how uneducated you are. many ancient Greeks when they disliked each other insulted each other by calling the barbarian, unwashed, uncivilized and others. if they wanted to say that the Macedonians were not Greek they would have called them foreigners not barbarians. Macedonians are Greek with Doric roots. I challenge you to find me an ancient source that says and proves that the ancient Macedonians were not Greek, otherwise you are uneducated and a fraud.
Mainland Greece was and it is until today the Macedonia, it was about Greeks vs Greeks
Once their was a break through of the lines the following slaughter would incredible.
I always love Total War series but the Rome Total War is one of the best game. This film is really perfect and captures the atmosphere of the wars of that period wonderfully. But I must point out that in this particular battle the Greek army had no cavalry which made the victory of the Macedonian army much easier. I personally really like this period in history. Achievements of Philip 2 and especially his son Alexander the Great was simply epic and for centuries was inspiration for all, including modern generals. Tactic Anvil and Hammer was used by the Alexander also in the last act of the battle of Gaugamela against Persian army when, after forcing the Persian king to flee in the center then he returned with his cavalry to deliver the final blow to the Persian forces. And in this battle he had much complicated goal because Persian army was far bigger than his and they also had quite good cavalry. I always dreamed in Total War games that maybe in future will be possible to fight as a single soldier in first person view. Unfortunately, it never became possible :( But luckily finally the game Bannerlord appeared with first person view on battle. :)
And I personally used the tactic anvil and hammer with devastating effect in one battle in Bannerlord against much bigger army of Battania. Here is the link to that video: ua-cam.com/video/ggf9zu9oTWU/v-deo.html Battle difficulty level was set of course at the max. Feeling of personal fight in the very center of such battle is really incredibly.
I am waiting for next cinematics from your channel :) Best regards
are you implying that the Macedonians were not Greek?
@@user-qm8gh3eo1u Hi It seems that you did not understand me. Of course that Macedonians were Greek however they conquered other Greeks cities and dominated them. Besides I think that You have to admit that Macedonian army was quite different than other greeks armies. And because of those differences was far more deadly for all enemies including other Greeks armies. Regards
@@danok. before the Macedonians, the rest of Greece was dominated by the Minoans, the Mycenaeans, Athens, Sparta, Thebes. The strongest dominated the rest. As for the Macedonian army, what you said is not true because you only know the Macedonian phalanx which was a part of it. indeed it was the most deadly army but it was not so different from the rest of the Greek armies. in the center was the Macedonian phalanx and to its left and right so as not to surround it were the etairoi which was the classic Greek phalanx which however knew how to use the sarisa and to the left and right of the companies were the Thessalian cavalry.the Macedonians had the best that existed in all the Greek armies of Greece so it was not so different from the rest of the Greek armies and the only thing that was different was the Macedonian phalanx.
@@user-qm8gh3eo1u why is it so diffucult for you to understand that they where not, that they are not, and that they never, ever, will be - ?
@@FamMitrevski I, unlike you, know how to read and learn and when I say that I say it with evidence. Just because you are uneducated and you do not mean that the rest of us are too. The Macedonians are a Greek race and if you want we can quote the historical evidence that each of us has to see who is right and who is wrong.
Macedonia for the Macedonians -William Gladstone British Statesman and British Prime minister on the 19th of January 1897 speaks of the glorious heritage of the Macedonians. And he clearly notes that Phillip II, Alexander, Aristotle, Cyril and Methodius are Macedonians. That Macedonians are not Slavs and that are not Greeks. "Macedonia-for the Macedonians" he declares.
There is GREEK MAKEDONES and there is Bulgarian slavs!!! Nothing else
Macedonia for Macedonians
the Bulgarians are Tatars and Macedonians are not Greek and they will never be, you Greeks always use lies to cover the truth maybe you German king Otto of Bavaria is also a Greek and something else Macedonians are not mentioned in Iliad as a Greek tribe
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Greater ciganin than you tatarski asparuh and asen is not to be found in the world and all the Bulgarians were tatars and allies of fascist in WWII war and also read the Bled agreement
Long Live Pirin Macedonia
What a great video showing critical tactic maneuver of the Macedonian warriors.
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