Jumped Timing Chain Or Belt Symptoms, Causes, and The Fixes

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  • @caronlynch8593
    @caronlynch8593 7 місяців тому +2

    Amazing video, ihave a mapped audi TT, i had it serviced just 1 week ago, the garage empty the old oil and then dont top up the new oil, the oil light came on 3 days later, now its got engine warning light and they claim its the chain, would lack of oil do that please x

    • @motorcarnut
      @motorcarnut  6 місяців тому +1

      Absolutely .Timing chain tensioners need oil and oil pressure or they could jump timing.

    • @caronlynch8593
      @caronlynch8593 6 місяців тому

      Thank you so much, the garage didnt put oil in after the service, now the chain is jumping and they want to charge me 1000 for their mistake! Thank goodness for good people like you explaining these things ❤

    • @motorcarnut
      @motorcarnut  6 місяців тому

      @caronlynch8593 No problem! You’re in the right and should pay

  • @Mark-jz4dz
    @Mark-jz4dz 7 місяців тому +4

    Thank you for the explanation. I changed the tensioner on my sons 2009 Corolla. I believe during this process I made the chain jump a tooth. We are now getting a P0017 code. My question is, car seems to run fine, is it drivable for a few days? Seems to run fine. I just don't want to cause issues.
    In fixing this issue, can I just open the valve cover and loosen/remove the tensioner. Put at tdc and make sure the cams are aligned and to correct the timing or am I going to have to remove the entire cover? Can I adjust timing from the top with only the valve cover off? Thank you.

    • @motorcarnut
      @motorcarnut  7 місяців тому +2

      If nothing is hitting anything you can drive it like that but not too long. If you can re due the timing like you said go for it , if it saves time.

    • @Mark-jz4dz
      @Mark-jz4dz 7 місяців тому

      @@motorcarnut . Thank you for responding! That's the plan put the crank at tdc and timing mark. Open valve cover and see where it is. Undo tensioner and move cams to correct position. Put tensioner back on and manually inject the tension with a long pic. Then turn the crank a few revolutions clockwise and verify timing marks are correct on cams. I really don't want to open it all up. Hopefully this will work.

    • @motorcarnut
      @motorcarnut  7 місяців тому +1

      @Mark-jz4dz good luck!

    • @LuisTheCarGuy
      @LuisTheCarGuy 2 місяці тому +1

      How would I go about fixing a p1009

    • @motorcarnut
      @motorcarnut  2 місяці тому +2

      @LuisTheCarGuy what vehicle?

  • @GooosFrawBaw-h
    @GooosFrawBaw-h 7 місяців тому +2

    i have a 1988 honda crx that someone wants me to see if i can get running. i found that it has jumped time. not exactly sure why it jumped yet but that is my question. how do i diagnose weather it is the tensioner or not. and how would i know if it messed other things up ? should i just try to fix timing and see if it runs?

    • @motorcarnut
      @motorcarnut  7 місяців тому +1

      That's the easiest thing to do, readjust timing, changed tensioner and belt and see if it starts. Could of bent valves but if it runs good it didn't. Good luck!

  • @A1steppa
    @A1steppa 21 день тому +2

    Hello, I got a 2015 jaguar xf premium, and whenever I’m on the freeway I can’t go over 70, and when I stop at a light my car doesn’t wanna accelerate, the brakes and steering wheel turns hard, I have to turn off my car and turn it back on for it to work again, what do you think it could be?

    • @motorcarnut
      @motorcarnut  21 день тому

      Not really with test driving it but are there any codes?

    • @A1steppa
      @A1steppa 20 днів тому +1

      @@motorcarnut p0016

    • @motorcarnut
      @motorcarnut  19 днів тому

      Sounds like the valve timing is off, that would create your problems.

  • @Zaikclon950
    @Zaikclon950 2 місяці тому +2

    Hello, i have a 2005 corolla CE and it has the cold start rattle. I changed the tensioner recently but nothing is changed. Is it worth changing the whole timing chain? it has 203K miles on it

  • @genevagiselle6812
    @genevagiselle6812 2 місяці тому +2

    My 2002 Mitsubishi eclipse I believe jumped timing. My car over heated because I didn’t have enough coolant in it and I had it flushed and then it was refilled with coolant a couple times later fown the road it completely just stopped and I couldn’t push the gas or break and I pulled over and hit the emergency break and then cut the car off!! It will crank but not start and the mechanic said that is a good sign!! Does that sound like a jumped timing belt?

    • @motorcarnut
      @motorcarnut  2 місяці тому +1

      Sounds like a blown head gasket from the overheating to me.

  • @mrfrank4583
    @mrfrank4583 Місяць тому +1

    I do have a question. I drove back from a 2hr drive. Parked my HEMI and next morning it was as though the battery was dead until after a few attempts to crank it finally started cranking. Now, no compression in at least 4 cylinders. No symptoms, no noises. Just parked and next morning. DOA. any thoughts?

    • @motorcarnut
      @motorcarnut  Місяць тому

      Wow, that is weird. If you have no compression in 4 cylinders that could only mean it jumped timing to me, definitely something mechanical.

  • @danamiller7309
    @danamiller7309 8 місяців тому +1

    hi, what is a lot a money?? 800?? 1000?? I have a 2016 jeep grand Cherokee that it might need time realignment. how much would that cost in your experience.

  • @theemikecee
    @theemikecee 3 місяці тому +1

    I have. 2005 tacoma 6 cyl. My mechanic is fixing the blow head gasket. I called him for a status and he said the timing chain jumped and he has to open it back up. The heads were machined so maybe he didnt put enuff tension on the chain. Is this something to be concerned about? Thank you.

    • @motorcarnut
      @motorcarnut  3 місяці тому

      The timing chain is hydraulic so something seems fishy if you ask me.

  • @rurubaby615
    @rurubaby615 11 днів тому +1

    I was driving on the freeway got off exit starting idling bad then i had to keep my foot on the gas or it would die and when i was stop and went to go again hardly any power but once it got goin it go but wouldnt go past 70 changed spark plugs coils camshaft sensor crankshaft sensor fuel injectors still missfiring no compression in 2 cylinders gas smell on a couple spark plugs mechanic said i think ur timing jumped will it do that now it wont start at all trys to just wont turn over

    • @motorcarnut
      @motorcarnut  11 днів тому +1

      Does sound like it jumped timing, the vehicle just doesn't lose compression like that

  • @socrates9271
    @socrates9271 Місяць тому +1

    Please help.
    So my car serpentine belt broke, and i replaced it, soon after i started hearing a slight rattling noise, but now that noise is getting louder, is it possible that the rattling noise ( only comes when accelerating, sometimes on sometimes not) is caused by a failing timing chain...? 🤔

  • @JackMeyHoffer562
    @JackMeyHoffer562 3 місяці тому +1

    Hello,
    My Sienna had a code regarding knock sensor.
    I do hear something coming from the engine, I decided to change the timing belt and it was shorter than my oem replacement.
    After I finished the timing job and made sure everything was at tdc, i turned on the car and after it warmed up I heard the same sound again and threw the same knock sensor code.
    Any ideas on how to fix my issue?

  • @josephstevens1822
    @josephstevens1822 7 місяців тому

    I got a 96 dodge ram Misfires on cyl. 8 and 7 but 8 is like 3000 times a minute, Replaced entire ignition system, headgaskets, valve gaskets, intake gaskets, oil pan gaskets, I think it needs 02 sensors but This sounds more like the issue?? Lmk man. Thanks.

  • @PaulGill-jf9cm
    @PaulGill-jf9cm 4 місяці тому +1

    I have a 2013 Hyundai Elantra and the timing chain is loose. Do you recommend fixing it and what would be the cost?

  • @morningglory102
    @morningglory102 6 місяців тому +1

    What i absolutely love is how detailed and informed your video is. Well worth a sub and looking forward to more informative content!

  • @dladdstrong
    @dladdstrong 5 місяців тому

    I jumped timing on my 2014 Chrysler Town and Country with a V6 3.6 L pentastar engine. I was an idiot and did not get the marks lined up. Any suggestions? Do you think I could tackle re-timing the valves and everything? Also do you think I would need to pull the whole engine?

    • @motorcarnut
      @motorcarnut  5 місяців тому +1

      You don’t have to pull the engine and if you did it before why wouldn’t you be able to do it again?

    • @dladdstrong
      @dladdstrong 5 місяців тому

      Well I took it all apart and got the timing right but now the vehicle will not start. I'm wondering if one of my valves is stuck open or I messed something up. Any ideas? I just took the cam phasers off and readjusted them so they were lined up with the timing marks. I didn't take the whole front cover off. Do I need to do that??

    • @dladdstrong
      @dladdstrong 5 місяців тому

      And just so you know I started the engine with the timing off and it ran for a little while then died.

    • @dladdstrong
      @dladdstrong 5 місяців тому

      Do you think I need to pull the heads off and replace the valves?

    • @motorcarnut
      @motorcarnut  5 місяців тому +1

      Try doing a compression check first, if compression is good on all cylinders the timing and valve should be fine.

  • @Иванпонимаете-г4ш
    @Иванпонимаете-г4ш 4 місяці тому +2

    Please help , I have a car that has a random misfire , and over heating between 40-60 mph, car has weak power , pulled thermostat out it isn’t that , it starts overheating when misfire is active , I changed all spark plugs and coils and gaped them correctly

    • @motorcarnut
      @motorcarnut  4 місяці тому

      Check cylinder compression on all cylinders, may be a blown head gasket causing your issue.

  • @EARTHKEENING
    @EARTHKEENING Місяць тому +1

    I just finished installing rebuild head on my 2004 volvo xc90 2.9l T6 , in the first start the car had misfire on 3-4-5 , this engine is from the passenger side is 1-2-3-4-5-6 , I deleted the codes and started again I had same codes misfire on 3-4-5 , I decided to do compression test and it's crazy it's shows 65 on all of the cylinders.
    my question is if the computer shows misfire on 3-4-5 then how I had same compression result on all cylinder it's not making sense for me . Because 65 is low right ? Shouldn't have misfire on all the cylinders?
    I'm looking at the timing mark I can see 1 tooth off on the vvt exchuast sprocket.

    • @motorcarnut
      @motorcarnut  Місяць тому

      That’s your problem, I one tooth off. Because if the valve timing is incorrect combustion can’t take place correctly and fuel and spark will be off because computer is assuming timing is correct when it’s not.

  • @dariusvargas1833
    @dariusvargas1833 7 місяців тому +1

    Amazing video!!!

  • @JeremiahMoeletsiMasuku
    @JeremiahMoeletsiMasuku 7 днів тому +1

    Where can I get timing chain for opel adam 1.0 engine petrol

    • @motorcarnut
      @motorcarnut  7 днів тому

      You would have to search online for your specific year make and model.

  • @mycoffee2654
    @mycoffee2654 5 місяців тому +1

    My 2015 Toyota Sienna has p0012 and p0015, but it has clean oil at the right level and no symptoms. Is it my timing chain? It seems odd that i would have two different codes for one bad sensor. Then again, i feel like a timing chain would produce symptoms. I would also expect a timing chain issue to cause more than just those two codes

    • @motorcarnut
      @motorcarnut  5 місяців тому +1

      The solenoids are probably going bad if you don’t hear and timing chain noises

    • @mycoffee2654
      @mycoffee2654 5 місяців тому

      ​@@motorcarnutthank you!!

    • @motorcarnut
      @motorcarnut  5 місяців тому

      @mycoffee2654 welcome

  • @ApprovedGifted
    @ApprovedGifted 3 місяці тому +1

    Can crankshaft pulley replacement cause your car to jump timing?

    • @motorcarnut
      @motorcarnut  3 місяці тому

      Depends, what vehicle do you have?

    • @Slater-rh1qr
      @Slater-rh1qr Місяць тому +1

      Did on ford focus

    • @motorcarnut
      @motorcarnut  Місяць тому

      @Slater-rh1qr sorry about that

  • @Crayon3aterGaming
    @Crayon3aterGaming 2 місяці тому

    I know this exact engine. I’m trying to figure out my situation as we speak. My chain slipped or jumped. I replaced the head gasket and checked the valves which are all in tact but I still have no compression. I’ll probably have to redo the timing procedure itself. It could just be a simple error on my behalf.

    • @motorcarnut
      @motorcarnut  2 місяці тому

      Chain is known to stretch but that won't cause no compression in all cylinders.

    • @Crayon3aterGaming
      @Crayon3aterGaming 19 днів тому

      @@motorcarnutso I’ve heard. So what should I do next? I just want to save as much money as possible before taking it to a mechanic.

  • @xzavyonpowell9396
    @xzavyonpowell9396 3 місяці тому +1

    My mechanic has fixed my timing chain an had a code for a HPFP an he checked it was goid but it still has a loud rumble noise like its off balance

    • @xzavyonpowell9396
      @xzavyonpowell9396 3 місяці тому

      What can that be

    • @motorcarnut
      @motorcarnut  3 місяці тому

      Timing is probably off or related to the fuel pump. He’s a mechanic should be able to fix it or bring to an mechanic

  • @energyneverdies1234
    @energyneverdies1234 5 місяців тому

    2014 dodge charger 3.6 sxt go to start tries to crank almost turns over but wont try to start couple times until i smell gas & stop could this be chiming chain? Fuel pump makes the electrical noise before attempting to start & fuses are good. Any advise appreciated...I'm broke down in the drive way.

  • @Mickromney23363
    @Mickromney23363 7 місяців тому

    I have a 2002 Hyundai sonata 2.7 liter v6 i just bought it deove it 164 miles parked it went outside the next morning wouldn’t crank just flooded itself out I replaced coils wires and plugs no change I think it might be a timing belt issue but I’ve never her of one jumping like that help

    • @Mickromney23363
      @Mickromney23363 7 місяців тому

      Also it threw the po340 code which is camshaft sensor

    • @motorcarnut
      @motorcarnut  7 місяців тому +1

      Could be, that is a timing code

    • @Mickromney23363
      @Mickromney23363 7 місяців тому +1

      It was I finally got past the motor mount and got the inspection cover off the belt had cracks all in it It was old and worn out and jumped some teeth. Thank you for the video really helped me.

    • @motorcarnut
      @motorcarnut  7 місяців тому

      Great to hear that, sure no problem!

  • @IamPeterM
    @IamPeterM 5 місяців тому

    i have a 3sfe 2.0 engine on my toyota caldina. i replaced my timing belt at it broke in less than 1000km later. what could be the reason?
    thanks

  • @nateharris40
    @nateharris40 2 місяці тому +1

    How can you tell if a 07 Nissan Altima just time it’s sound funny turning its like the starter only thing turning but crank and cam are spinning

    • @motorcarnut
      @motorcarnut  2 місяці тому +1

      Sounds like the engine did jump timing and doesn’t have compression, that’s the smooth sounds you are hearing.

  • @Mikusin
    @Mikusin 2 місяці тому +1

    I have a hyundai i20 with vvt can not drive it starts but rpms are not stable , system code p0014 , have checked the solenoids for vvt but thy r gud , the camshaft and crankshaft timingchain markings are not coming up on the tdc position together where thy shud be , how can i check if camlobes or camshaft intake or exhaust are not in timing

    • @motorcarnut
      @motorcarnut  2 місяці тому

      You have to find the procedure for your particular vehicle and reset crankshaft marks along with both camshaft marks. I don’t have info on an i20

  • @doodaxl7810
    @doodaxl7810 5 місяців тому

    Hi I have an 2020 Hyundai Elantra 4 cylinder 2.0l I have the p0017 code. Changed the exhaust and intake solenoids I was told it might be the engine before it was seen. No knock. Chain is still intake hasn’t been driven since the code popped up. Is there any way that it’s not the engine and just the chain and sprockets maybe?

    • @motorcarnut
      @motorcarnut  5 місяців тому +1

      Yes, These vehicles are known for timing chain stretch and that will cause that code. I would replace the chain and tensioner at a minimum to be ok again.

    • @doodaxl7810
      @doodaxl7810 5 місяців тому

      @@motorcarnut thank you I really needed to hear that

    • @motorcarnut
      @motorcarnut  5 місяців тому

      No problem!

  • @justinlewis196
    @justinlewis196 8 місяців тому

    If the chain is stretched ,will the engine still be able to start?

  • @edgaral
    @edgaral 10 місяців тому

    how do you tell the difference between a Broken and a Jumped Chain?, and if a chain is broken is it a costly fix ( labor time not the actual part of the engine )

    • @motorcarnut
      @motorcarnut  10 місяців тому +1

      You have to gain access to the chain depending on vehicle the easiest way is to remove the valve cover. If it’s broken you’ll see it right away. Again, depending on vehicle it’s a big job but prices vary greatly so I can’t just give a dollar amount and be accurate.

  • @jagdishjadav7446
    @jagdishjadav7446 9 місяців тому

    I have issue with engine so carry out overhaul work but after overhaul complete engine not starting so, i check deeply and found if i drain oil from chamber vehicle starts and if pour even 1 liter oil it stremble and stops, what should be causes?

    • @motorcarnut
      @motorcarnut  9 місяців тому +2

      Sounds like you messed something up and have a head gasket problem or valve timing is off.

    • @motorcarnut
      @motorcarnut  2 місяці тому

      .

  • @dejanaejenkins4648
    @dejanaejenkins4648 5 місяців тому

    Hi, I have a 2004 Honda Accord. Changed Serpentine belt. Drove for 2 minutes, shut car off, crunk it back up.. the battery light and oil light came on. Shut it back off and it wouldn’t crank back up. Used OBD2 scanner and no codes detected. It cranks but won’t start. Just keeps spinning, what could it be?

    • @motorcarnut
      @motorcarnut  5 місяців тому

      Idk, but those problems are related to the serpentine belt being broken but you replaced it, seems odd that after the belt change you have these issues. Check cylinder compression to see if the engine is mechanically healthy. And take it from there.

    • @dejanaejenkins4648
      @dejanaejenkins4648 4 місяці тому

      @@motorcarnut the belt never broke. It was shredding so I changed it. I took it back off and retraced the steps to make sure it was on correctly, still nothing. Also, the battery is continuously going dead. I have to give the car a jump. Replaced the starter, still nothing.

    • @motorcarnut
      @motorcarnut  4 місяці тому

      Sounds like you have a short somewhere. I have a video on parasitic draw you might want to check out

  • @abdalqadr1
    @abdalqadr1 4 місяці тому +1

    Greetings for u from Iraq

  • @lwazithato7382
    @lwazithato7382 6 місяців тому

    My isuzu 250 De teq Don't want to start it showing that the camshaft sensor is the problem but i did change them but still i get the same results

    • @motorcarnut
      @motorcarnut  6 місяців тому

      Probably the timing is off and not the sensors

  • @jihadmorales74
    @jihadmorales74 4 місяці тому +1

    My car sounds like it wants to start but it don’t and it don’t sound like shitty when you try to turn over it just sounds like the battery is dead but it’s not ? It’s those are my sensors?

    • @motorcarnut
      @motorcarnut  4 місяці тому

      Hard to tell just by your description but make sure battery is fully charged. Ignition,fuel and compression should be checked.

  • @rinserepeat2877
    @rinserepeat2877 2 місяці тому

    Nice job!! Well explained. scribed!

    • @motorcarnut
      @motorcarnut  2 місяці тому

      Welcome aboard! Thank you!

  • @akimwilliams7907
    @akimwilliams7907 7 місяців тому

    Would you engine be tight?

    • @motorcarnut
      @motorcarnut  7 місяців тому

      It could be if it’s hitting the valves

  • @lahypnotista7737
    @lahypnotista7737 6 місяців тому

    Bought a 2011 Cadillac SRX, a few days later a code popped up saying crank shaft/ camshaft coalition or something like that. My mechanic changed them all but said I still may need to replace the timing chain. Is there any other way around that, to at least by me some time? The car drives good except there’s a little loss of power going up hills but no rattle at all.

    • @motorcarnut
      @motorcarnut  6 місяців тому +1

      No, if it jumped it will again and leave you stranded.

  • @FestonMaulana
    @FestonMaulana 8 місяців тому

    Mazda zy always missfire after few distance ichanged plags fuel pump air filter no change help me please

  • @PrincernPrince
    @PrincernPrince 6 місяців тому

    Nice video!

  • @nemshibenyisrael1337
    @nemshibenyisrael1337 6 місяців тому +9

    If you have a bad timing chain, will your engine still run

    • @motorcarnut
      @motorcarnut  6 місяців тому +6

      Yes and no depends on how bad it is but it can run

    • @nemshibenyisrael1337
      @nemshibenyisrael1337 6 місяців тому +3

      @@motorcarnut my radio, and dash lights keeps coming on and off, but it still got me to work,the RPM was at 0

    • @isidroayala123
      @isidroayala123 4 місяці тому +1

      Was same , but I have to rev it high right after turn on engine for idle , sometimes goes to 0rpm but have my foot close to the Gas Pedal 2003 DIAMANTE MITSUBISHI 3.5 V6 6G74

    • @marcpower4167
      @marcpower4167 3 місяці тому

      If it breaks, you're F****d.

  • @billguay5327
    @billguay5327 8 місяців тому

    My 4.0 ford engine out of time valves hit locked up trying to remove cant rotate to access the flywheel bolts what can I do need to remove the engine

    • @motorcarnut
      @motorcarnut  8 місяців тому

      Can try with a long pipe and braker bar on crankshaft bolt or drop pan if that don't work and remove rod bearing caps more time consuming but sometimes you have no choice.

  • @delapaloma6934
    @delapaloma6934 5 місяців тому

    I just did my time if chain and when I let go of the clutch I hear something what could it be

    • @motorcarnut
      @motorcarnut  5 місяців тому

      Idk, don’t sound related? Was the noise there before timing change?

    • @delapaloma6934
      @delapaloma6934 5 місяців тому

      It was not I think I didn’t lock the vct acuator idk if that could cause the sound ?

    • @motorcarnut
      @motorcarnut  5 місяців тому

      @delapaloma6934 what vehicle?

    • @delapaloma6934
      @delapaloma6934 5 місяців тому

      @@motorcarnut Honda according to 2008 2.4

    • @motorcarnut
      @motorcarnut  5 місяців тому

      Do you have the start up rattle? I have a video on that fix too

  • @Hiphop_Love
    @Hiphop_Love 6 місяців тому

    My timing chain was fixed with new starter but still won’t stay started

    • @motorcarnut
      @motorcarnut  6 місяців тому

      I don’t understand what you mean?

  • @jihadmorales74
    @jihadmorales74 4 місяці тому +1

    Code p0016 popped up what is that ?

  • @tjbmx4130
    @tjbmx4130 8 місяців тому

    It that a dodge motor cause I think I'm having that issue

  • @BigpapaPapa-ud6qm
    @BigpapaPapa-ud6qm 6 місяців тому

    I tried to replace my water pump and I couldn't get the timing chain off of it

    • @motorcarnut
      @motorcarnut  6 місяців тому

      Don’t know what vehicle you are referring too?

    • @BigpapaPapa-ud6qm
      @BigpapaPapa-ud6qm 6 місяців тому

      @@motorcarnut
      The same 05 maxima 3 2

    • @motorcarnut
      @motorcarnut  6 місяців тому

      @BigpapaPapa-ud6qm The one in the video is not a Nissan and I wouldn’t know why you can’t get the water pump out?? I don’t know what you did or didn’t do?

  • @gotsu21
    @gotsu21 3 місяці тому +1

    Great explanation. Please check out my recorded noise of possible timing chain/tensioner related issues in my channel under Shorts. Is that noise at idling/slow rpm caused by bad timing? Or is it just the piston slap? Thank you.

    • @motorcarnut
      @motorcarnut  3 місяці тому +1

      I just heard them, so from the speed of the noise i'm pretty sure it's a rod knock.

    • @gotsu21
      @gotsu21 3 місяці тому +1

      @@motorcarnut is that mean timing chain system would not fix the problem?

    • @motorcarnut
      @motorcarnut  3 місяці тому

      @gotsu21 correct.

    • @gotsu21
      @gotsu21 3 місяці тому

      @@motorcarnut Hello, could you check #2 and #3 under "Videos"(longer than 1 min)?
      2. Cold Start - Idle - Drive - Rev - Idle
      3. Warmed Idle - Rev (The idling sounds like diesel engine while no noise at revving?)

  • @heavenknowsimmiserablenow14
    @heavenknowsimmiserablenow14 10 місяців тому

    I actually think the belt is better. The chain seems like it's planned obsolescence.

    • @motorcarnut
      @motorcarnut  10 місяців тому

      No belt is rubber chain is steel, no comparison

  • @abdalqadr1
    @abdalqadr1 8 місяців тому

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