In the UK, in 2024, they have just now concluded a public inquiry into the tainted blood scandal. It's a bloody embarrassment. People have passed and their families victimized for 4 decades.
Very much so. It is a very telling example of the dark side of the medical community - both the for and non-profit sides. They had limited information, limited scientific tools and data to base decisions off, and were operating under immense pressures - from the gay community, the scientific one, the hemophiliac one. We should never forget that medical science is not infalliable. Far from it, actually.
There’s so much to love about this series. There could so easily be a second series and cover PREP, the global consequences and tens of millions infected, the few cases of being completely cured, the quilt, and its lessons for other epidemics and pandemics.
If another virus transmitted via deviant sexual acts came along tomorrow, very little would have changed. Human behaviour, when it comes to sex, never changes. We still have unwanted babies, the incidents of sexually transmitted diseases like syphilis, gonorrhoea , clamydia and many others are way up because people just don't learn the lessons of history and never will. Another, worse virus is just around the corner, and it will kill millions because people will not change their sexual behaviour.
RIP Val Bias....a humble hero...look this man's up and see what a lofe well lived looks like and read the obituarird and messages of gratitude...he had to be special
This series is eye opening. The similarities to Covid-19 prevention, and folks carelessness is something to behold. We truly haven’t changed much at all.
The idea of having a virus and accidentally/unintentionally infecting my husband. And him getting sick whilst I have good health. And caring for him as he slowly dies from one of the worst diseases imaginable. The idea is soul destroying. I’d feel like I killed him. And it’s not just an idea to others, it actually happened. Jesus. I feel for them so much.
That part of the podcast made me break down in tears, and the end when they mentioned that the husband died months after the interview. This was such an emotional episode. So important to talk about, and so heartbreaking ❤
I remember the time so clearly. It was an awful time.I signed up to be a buddy but the time I finished the training I knew I wasn't strong enough as it upset me so much. What really angered and upset me was other people's reactions it was cruel and the press did nothing but make life even more difficult. On a positive note a friend of mine survived from 1987.
@@janesedgemore8092seeing that level of suffering would never leave you. So these folk who lost 50+ friends, I cannot actually fathom how that felt. There is a big difference between not volunteering because you mentally cannot handle the suffering and not doing it because you feel disgust or prejudice towards someone. You are not a bad person. Lots of health professionals end up quitting because of the mental toll alone.
No - there is something special about a podcast being audio only. You have to focus, listen, and use your imagination. Not everything has to be in video form.
The April 23rd 1984 press conference should rank alongside Pearl Harbor and 9/11 in terms of it's infamy. Do you know anything at all about the background and context and what happened after this date? Have you done any research into this?
There was many states that were already stopping people that were gay or homosexual from giving blood so this is this was a bad practice from the beginning of it all they should have figured out another way to get it out of
In the UK, in 2024, they have just now concluded a public inquiry into the tainted blood scandal. It's a bloody embarrassment. People have passed and their families victimized for 4 decades.
Holy crap hearing about the Blood banks like this is horrifying.
Very much so. It is a very telling example of the dark side of the medical community - both the for and non-profit sides. They had limited information, limited scientific tools and data to base decisions off, and were operating under immense pressures - from the gay community, the scientific one, the hemophiliac one. We should never forget that medical science is not infalliable. Far from it, actually.
There’s so much to love about this series. There could so easily be a second series and cover PREP, the global consequences and tens of millions infected, the few cases of being completely cured, the quilt, and its lessons for other epidemics and pandemics.
If another virus transmitted via deviant sexual acts came along tomorrow, very little would have changed. Human behaviour, when it comes to sex, never changes. We still have unwanted babies, the incidents of sexually transmitted diseases like syphilis, gonorrhoea , clamydia and many others are way up because people just don't learn the lessons of history and never will. Another, worse virus is just around the corner, and it will kill millions because people will not change their sexual behaviour.
RIP Val Bias....a humble hero...look this man's up and see what a lofe well lived looks like and read the obituarird and messages of gratitude...he had to be special
Shame on the blood banks and the blood industry in general. So many lives lost because of their inaction.
The fact that there is a blood industry is just infuriating 😢
This series is eye opening. The similarities to Covid-19 prevention, and folks carelessness is something to behold. We truly haven’t changed much at all.
The idea of having a virus and accidentally/unintentionally infecting my husband. And him getting sick whilst I have good health. And caring for him as he slowly dies from one of the worst diseases imaginable. The idea is soul destroying. I’d feel like I killed him. And it’s not just an idea to others, it actually happened. Jesus. I feel for them so much.
That part of the podcast made me break down in tears, and the end when they mentioned that the husband died months after the interview. This was such an emotional episode. So important to talk about, and so heartbreaking ❤
I remember the time so clearly. It was an awful time.I signed up to be a buddy but the time I finished the training I knew I wasn't strong enough as it upset me so much. What really angered and upset me was other people's reactions it was cruel and the press did nothing but make life even more difficult. On a positive note
a friend of mine survived from 1987.
@@janesedgemore8092seeing that level of suffering would never leave you. So these folk who lost 50+ friends, I cannot actually fathom how that felt. There is a big difference between not volunteering because you mentally cannot handle the suffering and not doing it because you feel disgust or prejudice towards someone. You are not a bad person. Lots of health professionals end up quitting because of the mental toll alone.
I wish this was a video instead of podcast so we could see pictures relating to the events taking place.
No - there is something special about a podcast being audio only. You have to focus, listen, and use your imagination. Not everything has to be in video form.
@ true
This podcast is magnificent!
The April 23rd 1984 press conference should rank alongside Pearl Harbor and 9/11 in terms of it's infamy. Do you know anything at all about the background and context and what happened after this date? Have you done any research into this?
No mention of Luc Montagnier at all.
There was many states that were already stopping people that were gay or homosexual from giving blood so this is this was a bad practice from the beginning of it all they should have figured out another way to get it out of
Did gay people walk around with some sort of sign of their forehead? How the hell would anyone know the blood donor was gay?
Well I think they didn't have "another way" to "get it out"