Hydro-Fracking a 750ft Dry Water Well, Making 1 Gal Per Hour. Can a Frack save this Well?
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In this video we perform a procedure called Hydro-Fracing. This helps to flush out the Water Veins of natural occurring sediment and allow them to flow water at a faster, less restrictive rate. Hydrolic Fracking is Highly Successful!
I was contacted by one of my Subscribers who had seen my other Fracking Videos and hoped it would work for their well. The Well was constantly running dry until we performed this Fracking process, it's been over 8 weeks and it has not ran dry since!
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When I worked in commercial wastewater construction and maintenance, we used plugs like your packer to seal mains so that we could work on sections of main.
Thank you @h2omechanic!! You will never know how much your videos and service has saved our house/investment and sanity!
But now you're not the lady that lives in the house with no water.
Neighbors will have to figure something else out to describe where you live.
How about the lady who lives in the house that finally has water. 😆
My well was having the same problems these folks have. I had mine hydrofraked and it worked nicely.
I think is is safe to say that the well went up to around 2-2.5 gpm after the frack, based on them "using water normally" and not running out. It is possible it is as high as 3-3.5 gpm too.
I agree, that's typically the result I see when doing a test after a frack.
I can only hope!
Know what I like about your videos compared to so many others on YT.
I like that you care and go out of your way to help people.
Not trying to over sell them things and giving honest choices for the home owners.
Great job and thanks for sharing.
I had a thought that all the other well drilling activity silt refuse channeled into her well maybe because it may be lower to or from water flow from aquifer 😅
How about hiring a blaster to drop a charge to the bottom of a dry well ? I would imagine that it would collapse the bottom of the well but if it was deep enough, then the static water level would be high enough to drop say 300' , and install a pump. I did hear horror stories about this technique causing the casing to shoot out of the well.
I bout died when you said good lord it's not supposed to do that with the crawl space door
Right when I was sitting here bored and nothing to watch on TV and I go to UA-cam and find the gem nice save buddy
Even though I don't know much about drilling, I really enjoy watching your videos and appreciate your answering my dumb questions.
Why don't you add a quick connection to run a hose to the 1400 tank to pull directly from it instead of transfering it
Kind of pointless with out a pump test before and after.... very disappointing with no GPM after the frac
that was one thing my dad always said and taught me, was to take care of the workers do things for you even tho you are paying them coffee cokes pizza or whatever you can....... have always done that my fed x and ups drivers that dropped off to me here at the house always gets free cokes and ice cold water whenever they are even close to us,even if they are not deleting something I holler at them and they always stop and get something
you mentioned for a deep well they shouldn't have used the poly pipe, is this a case where you might have to go back and replace the pipe? Is it because the pipe isn't rated higher than the 200psi? what would you recommend for a proper pump and pipe installation.
What a great video really impressed with all your equipment and expertise's !
PVC pipe is the most common for that depth. Much more expensive to install than continuous poly tubing.
@PelicanIslandLabs correct! Poly max is 400ft in my opinion & that's pushing its limits. 500ft=pvc 700ft=galvanized pipe
If you go to sdr7 hdpe pipe it is rated for 333psi. Step up to a two inch pipe will help on pressure loss
I’ve seen my dad move a rig 20 feet and go from a dry hole to all the water you wanted. Used to be around Indianapolis if you hit Blue shell, you might as well pull the casing. And move your rig.
If the frack doesn't "take" then it is good to know my option to drill close by might produce a working well. 😊
Great vid as always! Just curious as if the fracking of that well could affect the neighbors wells be in that they are somewhat close in proximity?
Entire neighborhood has water, wells all drilled very near one another. And ours was the only one never had water. 1gpm marked on the casing.. but according to the original neighbors, this house always had water problems. We were dupped.
@@elizabethkollars9934 1gpm is liveable. Ive got 7 people right now living on a cistern fed by springs that were making less than a quart a minute to fill a 500 gallon tank. At 1 gpm we would feel like we had limitless water.
Maybe I missed the explanation, nevertheless, the well pump is at a depth that exceeds the head pressure limitations of the tubing used by the prior installer. Did you put the old 700+- feet of tubing back into the well? If so, what was the reasoning. I enjoy your videos. Thank you.
The pump was at 500ft, customer wanted the pump back at 500ft. We expressed our concerns before doing so.
👍Thank you@@h2omechanic
@@h2omechanic HDPE pipe will take 1.5x it's rated pressure for regular surges, and 2x it's rated pressure for occasional or one off surges, according to what I've read. Better to use metal or PVC drop pipe IMO.
PVC pipe can handle 100 psi (pounds per square inch) above the pressure class, whereas HDPE piping can withstand two times the pressure. HDPE pipes can also handle a flow rate of 14 feet per second before the pressure rating reduces, while PVC pipes can only tolerate 5.5 feet per second.
I would have had them cut 100' off the polly had I known that was the better option. Maybe I missed that in our convos. Pressure situation makes sense.. just our original logic was to get lower to try and get more water.
When fracking do you use sand to keep the formation open? With oil wells frac sand is injected into the frac fluid while injecting. This keeps the formation open to allow flow back to the well bore.
I like it when my packer really swells up.
Technical Question: Can you use a 2 pump system and is it available?
If you have a primary pump at 500 ft. can you then install a secondary inline pump at 400 ft.? Some may call it a piggyback.
Thomas Dutkiewicz
Connecticut
There is an easy way to figure out what depth the pump is installed at. All you need is a wire length tester.
Great video! But maybe I missed it, do you have the actual gal per hour that it’s producing after the frack?
We do not, it was up to her to monitor the water level meter & get that calculation if she was able to run the well dry(after the frack). It hasn't ran dry so I'd assume at the minimum it makes 1-2 gal per minute.
Not yet. We are static at about 100 ft still.
Haha I was thinking the same thing when you put up I wonder if we are blowing the neighbors well. If they just happen to be on same exact vain but they are on pvc and lower it could drain it?
They do make a motor rated 30 amp switch from Levington that could be used if they wanted a toggle switch their yeah standard light switches are not rated that is a 15-amp switch and not rated for inductive loads so I can either use a motor rated 30 amp toggle or put a quick disconnect like an AC system has
My well only made 1 gallon per hour (24 gallons per day). I lived on that for 15 years (alone) because I didn’t have the money to drill another well. It couldn’t be fracked because it was under the house. I learned a lot about wells and living very frugally with water.
I feel this pain!
Farm house has a piston pump because of the low flow. It takes about 15 minutes of run to fill a 30 gallon tank. In the summer that well can go dry and you then have to use a pitcher pump outside. But both the horse barn and the house each have a cistern. And in time of need, can move the water from the horse barn to the house.
@@gravelydon7072that’s the type of pump that was originally on my well. I thought that was the problem but turned out to be the well itself. Wooden rod inside galvanized pipe 227 feet down.
For the water level on the tank. Drill two new holes at least two feet closer to the pump engine connect the transparent level line to the new hole. You never use a inlet or outlet line as a connection point to a sight level.
Interesting. We fracked our 500ft well in limestone up here in far NE Washington state and raised the rate from about .5 gal/minute to over 1gal/minute. Not great but enough to keep our 2000 gallon cistern full. But while you used pressurized water our driller used high pressure air. And, like you we went to 800psi. A neighbor had his well fracked and they used CO2 to freeze the rock structure. Unfortunately, in our case when withdrawing the equipment there was a cave-in in the hole and they had to bring in a rotary impact drill to punch through it. Added $1500 to the cost. Ouch.
Wow, that sucks.
We have oil wells on my property in Ohio. At 500 feet we would be in oil. As oil wells there are also fracked ( explosive charge in the old days ) it is always a crap shoot. Sometimes they do better, and on a rare occasion, they do worse. Our well at the farm house was dug by hand and is shallow as there is a gravel vein that it goes into. Sadly, in the summer it can go nearly dry so the outdoor pitcher pump gets put into use. But talk about cold water, brrr!
I geek out over these videos. Hydraulics are amazing to me.
Is dry ice an option or has that gone the way of the dinosaurs?
It's a less conventional method that has less control & less pressure. It's like a mini frack, bc you can seal off the pressure. It all shoots out the top of the well
Regarding that toggle switch. IF they buy the right one (HP rated) they are rated and will handle the current. Typical rating is 30A 5HP at 240V/2HP at 120V.
FYI. Some industrial toggle switches are horsepower rated.
Great Job! It would be great if you had some type of animated illustratration to see how the franking really works
Sounds like the poor old Sunbird finally needs a valve lap after all these decades of "thank you for your service" 🤣 Good vids man I always look forward to new ones
I have to loosen the oil cap to vent crankcase pressure bc the rings leak so bad lol, or valve seal. If I close the oil cap at high rpm it'll squirt oil out the dip stick tube. Definitely need a update soon
@@h2omechanic that's pretty amazing if it's that wore out and still starts and runs.. on a carb.. in that kind of cold weather
@h2omechanic I had a three phase switch that used on restaurant exhaust fans (2hp) installed so that way I knew that it could handle amp draw.
How much does fracking cost?
Whoever drilled that well should have found oil.
Or China
16:20 In a community like this with so many wells close together, do you ever run into an issue where opening "this well" might harm the production of a nearby well? Is this ever a liability issue?
I love your videos and my girlfriend is having well problems and would definitely appreciate it if I could ask you some ?
I would think that because a 750' well has so much more wall surface area compared to a 250' well, you would have a harder time getting the pressure up as high, even if it is really plugged.
That's a great observation.
I hope to God somebody convinces that wonderful customer to get rid of that light switch... That is bad bad bad bad.... That is not a high current disconnect... Definitely not rated for that kind of load.... I'd use an AC disconnect.
Agreed! I like 60amp A/C unit pull disconnects. But somehow code allows for a 20amp 240v switch...
There's a lot of things that have collapsed burnt down and blow up that were built according to code.
Dude you said you liked to over tape the wire, i only see you wrap the 📼 around 2X then into the next...wfj😂😂😂
It would be interesting to know how deep the neighbors' wells are. I wonder if there's some geologic formation of hard rock that is isolating the problem house from the local "water table".
Na, just a lot of people there have lots of cash. Just drill a 8" hole and make it over 600 feet deeper than any ones else. Have 3 phase and you are golden, just drain them dry. There homes will sell for cheap. Seen it so many times.
Neighbors are all around 350. This house had a history of not producing and prior owner had tried to fix it by drilling to 749. That didn't fix the problem.
Would be hell if the neighbors water capacity went down after your work was completed 😢
Makes you wonder if some sort of liability would be there for affecting neighbor's well performance.
Please get a good wireless mike you can wear, enjoy your channel and want to hear you better what you are saying
*mic as in microphone...
I will buy him one!! @h2omechanic tell me what you would use 😊
@@elizabethkollars9934 search rode wireless lapel, or rode lapel. You have to sort out what works.
Unrelated, but have you discussed Cycle Stop Valves?
Love watching your videos they're educational
I have a 600’ well that needs pump pretty deep maybe 580’ what size pump should I use
I was kinda expecting to see 3 geysers from the neighbors' houses.
I am sitting here on the couch watching this and thought you know those Edison motors guys up there in Canada might have a good option for you to go electric on your rig. Not that you need to spend the money or anything but I just thought the hydro frac truck would be the perfect candidate....
I was thinking a small block V8. Parts are plentiful and cheap and it would have plenty of power to drive that triplex pump.
You'd still need a generator to provide power to run the motor. The amount of batteries needed to run at that load for that amount of time would be financially irresponsible and very unreliable
It's battery electric with a diesel generator on board range extender... An electric drive motor would eliminate that transmission on the hydro frac water pump.... But hey what do I know I'm just an electrical engineer...
😂😂😂😂😂😂 yeah spend 100k on a new rig when a used gas rig can be found for less than 20k
@@Jmeinema1Have you seen what Edison are doing? it feels like you haven't. the trucks are hybrid diesel -electric ,they have an onboard generator which is used to change the batteries when on the road (about every 30 minutes in testing) so you would have a generator to run the pump puller and fracking ring already under the hood of the truck. Their logic about how this can be more efficient seems odd but makes sense.
Also they could retrofit the existing truck rather than provide a new one.
I'm surprised the contractors in your area are hanging pumps so deep on poly.
They make switches that are double pole 30 amp per pole.
Great job it’s to bad they don’t have a double sided fracking system so you can do 40 feet at a time. I’m thinking that well was so deep that your set up might have been less effective. Great work guessing the husband was totally in dog house on this and wife made the call. He learned:) and I’m sure you made her feel on top of the world guys can be rock heads sometimes
Ps you might have saved a marriage
They have water!!!👍👍👍 Do the results mean now the neighbours don't have water 😂🤣😂🤣
Neighbors are all good.
Hello love channel! I'm thinking of getting property but niebhor said took him 3 tries to find water. Another guy has to get water delivered. With this said niebhor well that gets water. His well is straight across 40 feet. A should I try across from his? B find different property?
They make 20 and 30 amp switches too
That little 4 cylinder gasser seems to do ok, but you need to upgrade that fracking engine to an early 2000's or so 4 cylinder TDI diesel - torque for days to power through.
How long, after fracking, do the results typically last?
15 years
@@h2omechanic Nice. Not a bad ROI.
Should be able to tie in the extra water truck directly
8 GPM
My area has a lot of water issues similar though not quite so bad. Many people will only find 1-3 gpm up to 500’ deep. Our first was 5gpm and second 16+gpm.
Right across the street from me he drilled 3x and never even hit 1 gpm
Love the video, but your pizzas are horrible, ours in Australia, have pepperoni, bacon, olives, mushrooms, cheese, peppers, , that's a Supreme, ours all generally have multiple topping.
I'm just trying to process the above ground feed into the house on most of the wells you service. I'm used to every well feeding through a pitless
bet you did it for a good price too. Screw that HOA for "the lady with no water". 30-50gpm
Grundfos actually makes a lot of pumps bigger than that one. I worked in a mine and we used Grundfos pumps from 20 to 60 hp lifting water at rates of 200 to 400 gpm from a pumping water level of 400 tp 500 feet. Grundfos were the best pumps available, we had pioneer pumps that were no where as good. Franklin motors were junk, but Hitachi motors were excellent. This was back in 1980.
Very interesting..hydro fracking, never heard that term for water well clearing...I used to drive water truck in oil patch. Pulling salt water off oil tank batteries, sometimes I wud have to use gear pump on truck to pressurize oil wells with salt water after pulling unit was done dropping pipe or rod back down hole. Before they cud reconnect iron horse back up, like priming well back to pressure nit sure but I think same theory.. I have a jet pump on my well, with dbl line going down, second line I was told use for extra suction by gravity causing a vacuum at pump to help pull water up with out straining pump...is that correct....also that my well can only be like 25-30 ft below surface fir jetpump to pick up water...I have had zero problems with well fir over forty years...I have always been curious to know how deep well real is ?? Is there a simple way to measure depth without removing lines...I was thinking a fishing bobber lil weight...not much room to get something by lines n casing inch n half maybe...just not sure if I cud feel bobber touch water with even lil weight ..figure you might have a trick, hack , that I havent heard yet....oil franking ain't quite same except for using pressure back down hole...relieved to see you didn't use chemicals..what caught my attention...I will check out more of your video s. Good job....800 ft for water well kinda outrageous, atleast round these parts...nothing but wheat fields fir miles in any direction ....🚜🌻🌾🤙
It is possible to add a soft start to a 3 HP, 220 V, 2 phase, 3 wires, to avoid mechanical problems when you start a pumps?
Couldnt have dropped the pump 300’ more feet and got good water eh? 350’ off the bottom is an interesting choice to immediatly consider fracking
24:15 that looks like it's a 20 amp circuit but I highly doubt that's a 20 amp switch. They tend to "all look the same" in the store other than the price. I guess they're trying to be cheap rather than actually putting a 25-30 amp rated disconnect in.
Audio at the beginning sucks.
Why not use higher pressure pipe. Ours is 300psi poly. No it's not a drilled well but is pushing from tank and pump about 2 miles to end of run
What does crazy mean? Crazy good or crazy bad? When not just say what it is. Its way too low or really good high levels. Thanks
Love the content, but please stop moving the frame of the video around like you did from 4:02 - 4:31. It is quite distracting and can cause motion sickness.
One gallon per HOUR???? That is just about DRY!
Good job guys
This may sound crazy but I’m 100% serious. Is this something someone could DIY? I live somewhere that no one will frack. I’ve got 3 wells (350ft is the deepest) and I’m getting less than 10 gallons per HOUR. I’m not really worried about the expense because the lowest quote I have for someone driving 10 hours to get here is 70k.
Dry ice. That's your only best diy option. But do your research! It's not something I've ever done.
@@h2omechanic thank you for the reply. Been doing a bit of research on dry ice and it seems possible albeit very crude lol. Unfortunately my well is also run with hard PVC so pulling the pump up from 350’ is probably going to be a treat without a lift truck. 😂
@@h2omechanic how about I fly you out here and we can make a dry ice video? 😬
Is there an update as to the end result?
What happened to that ama hoodie
I wonder if filling the neighbor's pools has hurt that lady's well.
I am thinking to shout "frack you" at that well
wordplay is fun
what county are you in
I really enjoy your videos, but you need to do something about the vocals
I can not read lips
I live around the corner from the company that drilled it.. small world
We can't see the gauge
No torque arrestors?
Does the 500 ft. Length of pipe help absorb the torque?
I would really like to see harder numbers on the after frack it kind of left me hanging.
What would happen if you dammage the next door well?
If I recall the math correctly, a cubic foot of water weighs about 62.5 pounds. If so, then a 12" column of water presses on the bottom of the container at 62.4/144 = 43.33 psi. So the pressure at 750 foot depth would be about 325 psi - plus the additional height above ground and the pressure in the tank.
Correct. But the pipe is rated to 200psi... at 500ft plus the 60psi working pressure. It's exceeds the pipe pressure limit once you pass around 340ft
700' deep no water!?! Heck, tank in about 500 gallons. And drop about,6-8 sticks of TNT in the very bottom, then fill the hole with water,. Cap it off with a heavy steel plate anchored to the ground. Det that, it eill Open something, maybe a jail cell for ya! Heck it may blow water out of all the wells within a half mile😮, heck i want to know what would happen now!! How can i drill a hole big enough for. 6 -8 sticks that deep? I saw a auger to fit a drill in amszon, make dome extensions for it hahaha 😆 . I wonder what it would sound like being that deep and under water!!??
They also test nuc's that way
I need to talk to you, how can I reach out for some advice ?
What a huge difference that frack made, probably around 15 gpm.
need the pilot circuit cleaned out on your carb or a bigger main jet
Or you watched his U tube channel.
i wanted to ask you about level sensors. why don't you put level sensors in the wells? what if the well runs out of water and the pump gets damaged? are grundfos pumps smart enough to stop if they run out of water?
Yea, Grundfos shut themselves off when dry runs occur. They also had a pump saver box on the well. When the amp load drops (well runs dry) the well saver kicks off power for 1 hour.
found you and watching your back log
Is it a possibility that well was on the outskirts of the vein?? I know from experience water table is not level plane it runs with the contour of the ground going up hill an downhill. But what I don’t know is if you can be onto the outside of a water vane🤔🤔 I do know 150 yards from an existing old well can turn out to be different water … Here in southern Michigan if you go down too deep you tap into the Soffer vein an that is NASTY 🤮 water…. My heart goes out to the poor folks in Ohio 😅😅 most all their good producing well are nasty 🤢 tasting… I don’t care if you run 1 million charcoal filters you can only filter out so much of it…
Our neighbor draws down our well when she pressure washes her house. Maybe neighbors pool should be less priority so neighbors don’t suffer.
That's a really poor well if pressure washing draws it down. Pressure washing really doesn't use that much volume of water.
they make high amp switches
Does fracking ruin the casing?
So you frack below the casing?
Like a male dog’s wachamacallit, you gotta wait for it to deflate before you separate him from the bitch!
I wired up a well in the mountains in NM, I can't remember what the well flowed but it was bad, (a couple gallons an hour IIRC) so we set a tank next to the well so the pump could run all the time then there was another tank next to the house 400 feet away with a float switch in it when the water level went down it would close saying "hey I need water" if the float switch on the other tank was closed it would turn on the secondary pump and fill the tank..
I'm a firm believer on holding tanks. They put less stress on the well pump and less start/stop wear making for longer life of the pump. Plus, for areas with no city water, It's a necessity "if" the fire dept needs more water.
YOU GOT PIZZA WTF!!!!!!
what was the fix
Hi, I have a question, I assume the pump under the house is 220v and they installed a switch to shut off power, isn't the switch just switching one leg of the 220v leaving the other leg hot?
The tank is under the house. But no, the switch is a 240v switch, it cuts off both legs
PLEASE HELP! I replaced the gauge and the pressure switch, and filled the psi to 38 for a 40/60, and STILL NO WATER! the pressure is at 0, the previous gauge was stuck at 40 even when empty.. what should I do next? Is it the pump?
@TheShannonannkeenan is it below 32⁰ where your at? Possibly froze?
Test power at the well head, if you get 240v there, then the issue is down the well. Broke wire or dead pump
What state is this well in?
Youngsville, NC
@@stewarthodges4723 Very cool. I didn’t know they traveled for work. I saw the Nw Poole tag and knew they were close.
Fixed now but was in a state of disrepair. Hey wored for the gov so ain't used to helping folks