Project Opel GT 1971 #15 : Sunroof, a way to destroy a Classic car !!
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2023
- Fixing one hole, and make new one.
In this episode I try to make new panel for huge hole in the roof (welding it is another adventure) and make new hole for top back panel. Both were challenging tasks to do. Both tasks went through with Plan B. - Авто та транспорт
respect .A very deep BOW
Thank you. For the comment, views and follow...
WOW!! 15 episodes in and still no shortcuts. BRAVO! Sir I salute your perseverance. Cant wait for the next vid.
Thanks again! By looking the car after 400+ hours, I assume that there are still plenty of episodes coming up...😁
Absolutely fantastic fabrication mate !!! Love the content
Thanks for comment and views again, appreciated !! Glad you enjoyed it
That was an absolute lesson in metal perfection most enjoyable to watch a true master craftsman at work ! 🏴🙏🏻👏👏👏
Wow, thanks! There were quite many overstatements in one sentence 🤣
This is a master sheet metal fabrication class right here... basically fabricating a 1971 Opel GT out of flat sheet metal, using the rusted out remains of an actual Opel GT as a guide...makes my pitiful attempts with premade patch panels on my C10 look like a kindergarten class, for sure...
Thanks for the comment, but welding that thing on.....lets see how confident I am then...Remember, you only see the good parts in these videos... 😂
That may be so, but I'm not even fabbing small patches yet, let alone complex curves... I've got a bunch of pre-made stamped out patch panels, & while I am getting decent results, & each one gets easier, that's not even close to what you're doing, hand forming all that, even with an English wheel & planishing hammer, that's some serious fabbing skills...
I think the amazing thing is that he isn't a panel beater which makes what he does even more impressive.
This work meets even Germany's meticulous standards for restorations of rare vintage cars....a delight to watch!
Thanks for the comment. Although this is far from it, you only see the nicest point of views in videos 😂 Glad that you like the video series, stay tuned for upcoming episodes.
Fun Fact: The GTs body panels were originally made at a french manufacturing plant.
Legend (?) has ist that this plant was bought up by the french government at the behest of their nationalized car manufacturers so no more panels could be made after the production run of the GT ended.
Sorry, I have missed this reply. Cool info, this was new to me...thanks for sharing it...
I've binged all the episodes and I feel sad I have to wait.....great series...excellent work sir..
Thanks for the comment, and big thanks for viewing all episodes. Currently I have been somewhat busy elsewhere, but next episode is building up steadily...Please stay tuned for upcoming year and episodes, trust me there is still LOT to do....
Always so impressive metal skills!!! You could hold courses in the technique!! Pure joy to watch your work!
Thank you so much. So far I am the one having lessons....My beginners luck seem to be holding so far...
Es ist gut, dass die Videos nicht so lang sind, sonst schaue ich sie mir weiter an und es gibt heute noch mehr zu tun.
Danke.
Haha, danke für den Kommentar. Ich schätze es, wenn jemand die gesamte Videoserie sehen möchte. Ich versuche, die Episoden kurz zu halten, es würde immer Material für eine einstündige Episode geben.
Best channel on UA-cam, I don't know where you find the patience to record this for us while doing the car, all I can say is thank you.
Thanks Bartholomew, Actually making video alongside, ease up the process. Now I have two angles to work with, actual car and documentation. If I'm fed up with another one, I can concentrate to another...
I really wish you were in the states...I would love to watch you work in person. You are a master!!
Always welcome to Finland 👍. Thanks for the comment...
Anyone who gets a huge hole in the car roof repaired no longer needs to fear anything.
I am very impressed.👍👍👍👍
There is nothing to fear, but fear itself...I believe that was F.D.R who said so... Thanks for the comment, this was one of the most difficult episodes so far...BUT, it needs to be welded in.......ask me again then...
Super, Great as usual! difficult plates!!
Thanks again! Tusen tack
What a marvellous channel, only just discovered but some superb metalwork and stunningly high production values . So enjoyable thank you!
Welcome aboard! Much appreciated. Stay tuned for more episodes..
Coming on nicely.
Thanks for the view and comment....welding of this sucker is yet another story 😂
Beautiful piece of work,you are a master at your trade.great video as always.just continue on doing what your doing and carry on.kudos 👍👍👍😎😎😎
Much appreciated. My learning curve result so far : Skills --> up to 20% . Patience--> up to 1000%
Great job!!!!! Wow...
Thank you!
Great work, mine had the added problem of not being central in the roof, meaning the frame around the door was also hacked
Thanks for the comment. Now that sounds even worse. Did you manage to got is done?
Good work as always.
I appreciate that, thanks for a view and comment !!
the thing i love is plain and simple .....making his own die's and using old school hand techniques. just real good stuff👍
Thanks, I appreciate your comment. Not gonna buy tools for one time use only... rather find another solution...Stay tuned for upcoming episodes as well..
Schaue deinen Videos vom Opel GT sehr gerne zu. Es ist eine absolut sensationelle Arbeit die du da machst. Meine absolute Hochachtung!! Übrigens ich bin 70 Jahre, das war 1972 mein absoluts Traumauto. Danke da ich bei der Restaurierung dabei sein darf. Grüße Hans-Jürgen
Danke für den Kommentar. Es wird großartig sein, wenn meine Videos Sie an das Jahr 1970 und Ihr eigenes Traumauto erinnern. Solche Kommentare geben mehr Kraft, mehr Videos zu machen....
That's what was going to do with the Bentley find scrap car with a similar roof profile and use that , I used my joggler on the edge still buckled a bit , lovely work BTW .
Yes, for me that did ease up the fitting process,, not have to drive back home to test fit it...
Fantastic result. Nicely done again.
Thank you so much 😀 Thanks for view and follow !
Nice work 👍👍👍
Thanks 👍
More good work and excellent results.
A couple of suggestions, if I may. 1) If you are going to drill more holes in metal with hole saws, I suggest you get a set of carbide hole saws. A lot of times you can find used sets where only one or two of the saws has been used and they are a reasonable price. 2) Every video I have seen from a professional fabricator about using an English Wheel is the fabricators are adamant about keeping a high polish on the wheels and making sure they are as absolutely smooth as can be. I believe you are getting the marks on your metal due to the surface finish on your wheels.
Thanks for the comment, and I appreciate all tips and hints...
1. Yes, This was one time use scenario, hence didn't want to put too much money on it. And got it done when rpm was close to what was recommended...
2. SO true, if you noticed, I walked off the English wheel to get cleaned wheel when started to work with roof panel. I noticed from my episode 14 when I watched it myself, that the smaller wheel was really dirty...
These kind of pro tips are always welcome !
epic and very satisfying!
I found this episode to be satisfying also...too many risks, and it all paid off...very happy about the result...
hello quel plaisir! thank great job and vidéo the great MINI lol. good day
Hey, thanks! Yes, Mini is my daily ride, wife can have the Audi 😂
@@GT1900garage MINI YEA VERY NICE CAR FOR THE CITY RALLY HAHAH good day, ha the wife... lol
Your knowledge, skill and dedication is remarkable.
Thanks for the comment and views, Appreciated...
I have no words. This car will be perfect!! So great skills!! Can’t wait for the next episode!!
Thank you very much! Stay tuned, there will be a bunch of episodes to come...
I continue to be amazed! Great work!
Thanks for comment and views..
getting there! recommend you throughly clean & polish your english wheel dies & wheel, it will save you having to sand out the lines. same goes for bead roller dies, power hammers etc. a spotless tool will leave a spotless finish.
Thanks, Yes, point taken.. Especially wheels need a thorough cleanup...Its not my wheel, I have a luxury of having access to this workshop...
@@GT1900garage same for me - a generous soul has all the gear and lets his friends use it, i'm the only one who knows how to lol
just amazing...you are an absolute master of metal🔝💯%👌🏼💣
beginners luck still...
That is very skillful, next level great watch.
Thank you very much! I'm glad that you enjoyed.
tou are really skilful in bending metal, what a work you are doing,
Thanks for the comment, to be honest....it is quite a handful of task....
Thanks for another interesting and informative video. I really enjoyed your 'precision bending'. Best wishes.
Thanks for comment. Yep, sometimes one has to develop their own methods to achieve the perfection and precision 🤣🤣
Great work Regards Doug.
Thank you Doug, appreciate ! please stay in for upcoming episodes...
i had the same sunroof in my 1986 opel corsa a 1.1st and seen it on multiple opels at the time.
guess it was an aftermarket option at the dealer.
love your build!
Yeah, the old Webasto roofs were very popular in the 70's
Thanks for the comment, I think this was a self made assembly. And those were popular in Finland as well in 80's. As cool as they were in hot summer days, they destroyed the car totally. For this GT, the seller took pictures from angles that sunroof was not visible, intentionally or not....I don't know...
That's a lovely car indeed, great job sir !
Thanks for the comment, I couldn't agree more....It's a beauty !!
Nice work. Nice video. Thanks
Thanks for watching! I have been watching your channel for some time... Nice Alfa project !!
@@GT1900garage oh, thanks for watching back! Yeah the Alfa is quite a nice project despite being very rusty, it hasn't been bodged up through its life which is unusual.
I've never come across an opel GT before, interesting car, nice shape to it.
Welding in a sunroof panel is a daunting task, I've done a few of them. You have a nice bit of double curvature to keep the distortion down. Look forward to the next video. 👍
Thanks for reply. Yes, world is full of wonderful small volume cars that are absolute classics. Yes, I am working on welding the sunroof, with the help of absolute experts...
Super job
Thanks for the comment, glad that you liked....
This will be beautiful when done!!!
Thanks for comment, certainly hope so 😂
You are a true craftsman.
I have watched every episode, and think you are doing a great job!
Thanks for the comment. And especially thanks for watching full series...Stay tuned for rest of them...
Great video 🤩 happy to see that you fixed the rear end to your satisfaction. Again very impressive work with the English wheel.
But who on earth came up with the idea to cut the cross bar in the roof in order to install a sunroof ? How can this be done on a German car in Germany ? How could German technical inspectors (TÜV) approve this ? I would call this a major impact to the stability of the basic structure to the disadvantage of the passengers. Unbelieveable. Should be illegal 🤯 Glad to see you fixed this.
I enjoy every video so much. Keep on 👍🏻
Thanks for the comment. AGREED !! Cutting off the roof cross bar was insane. Flimsy as it originally was, it still strengthen the overall structure. I took it all back (with interest) and made the cross bar wider and twice as thick material...
Please stay tuned for rest of the episodes....Thanks for follow...
A simple brick bolster is an excellent tool to use for forming those nice sharp creases in the roof beam. They also have enough mass to be used as a dolly when working body lines and creases with a hammer. Try and find one without the silly rubber handles, they just get in the way.
Great tip! I will add this to my selection of bending tools right away... Thanks for comment and views....
Saubere Arbeit, ich bewundere deine engelsgeduld.
danke für den Kommentar. Die Geduld ist mit dem Projekt gewachsen
I need to go back and start this series from the beginning, the 3 or so episodes I've seen so far have amazed me!
And of all the cars you could be restoring, you certainly didn't pick am easy candidate!
I'm lucky my GT is incredibly rust-free, just had some crash damage and then dodgy bodywork on top of that.
Please do so... I think earlier episodes give some perspective to the current state.. Tell me about your GT, where? and what will it be...? Restomod, original?
@GT1900garage In California. It's a 1973, rebuilt 1.9 CIH with a few spicy engine mods, 5-speed Getrag, upgraded brakes and suspension, air conditioning, not exactly a restomod but not stock either.
I should post a video of it on my channel.
@@GT1900garageIt has fresh paint and bodywork but unfortunately the person who did the bodywork on the "trunk" area used a filler normally reserved for filling in rock chips, and several long cracks appeared a few days after I put the car together and finally drove it.
I wish I could find someone who can do lead work in California, it's becoming a dying art.
Please do, I've only seen the dash...
Oh my, a stone filler?? now that's creative... No wonder it cracked...I am about to learn some lead work...lets see how it goes...
Amazing
Thanks for comment and views !!
Hyvä tulee🙌🏻
Kiitosta paljon, mukava kun seurailet projektia...
Wieder eine großartige Arbeit. Teile deine Meinung bezüglich Sonnendach. Freue mich schon auf die nächste Folge
Danke für den Kommentar, ich habe nicht ganz verstanden, was Sie über das Schiebedach gefragt haben?
@@GT1900garage Ich glaube auch, dass ein Schiebedach bei dem Auto nicht gut ist
OK, danke für die Klarstellung. Ja, es ist kein Oldtimer
Huikeeta! Hyvin olet englanninpyörän ottanut haltuun. Melkosen terapeuttista seura näitä päivityksiä. On noissa kaarevissa muodoissa hieman enemmän haastetta kuin Derbyssä.
No kiitoksia, Onhan näissä tosiaan joo vähän enemmän muotoa, ja myös tekemistä kun aikoinaan Derbyssä. Selkeesti siellä sisäpiirin tietoa..
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Donot forget to mention that the wheel suspension underneath is from a B-kadett. Many parts are common. The GT is nicely shaped, but very swoppy and uncertain on the road. It drives like a boat.
Thanks for comment. Honestly, I have never been in a moving GT. My goal is to spice up the engine, and potentially improve the overall driving experience all together. Yet maintain the comfort.....I need to study that a bit..
Changing the bushings to poly and upgrading the sway bars does wonders.
In the US we never even got sway bars! Talk about riding like a boat.
True, My friend has a US import. And it does not have sway bars at all...
@@GT1900garage If I had another chance to redo my suspension I would only put poly on the front. Once I put poly bushings in the rear I felt every bump.
I also installed the sway bars that Opel GT Source in California sells. Had to weld brackets onto the rear axle but it greatly reduces body roll.
Man, I've always wanted an Opel GT. I just love the shape. I always wanted to stuff a GM 3.8 V6 in one with a five speed and maybe a Jag rear end. Or even better, a small V8 like a Ford 302 or, just because I'm "Mr. AMC", an AMC 304 just to be different. But I'd do my utmost not to spoil the looks of the car.... I'd try to make the V8 fit under the stock hood.... other than some wider wheels and maybe side pipes..... 'cuz I gotta work my 1970's kink in there somehow. YES, there would be 8-tracks.... and a REAL flip-top racing fuel filler on the deck.
Yes, the shape of the car got my attention in early days, and now just must got one for me. There has been some V6 or V8 conversions but I try to stick with the original Opel 4 cylinder. But there are some plans to upgrade the engine at some extent. That is yet to be decided and revealed. My friend has a US import GT, and it has all the engine bay chopping done for accommodate V8, but he has took it all back and have converted it back to original shape. I do also like the original shape, WITH the exception of bigger wheels, and maybe somewhat lower overall look...Lets see how this goes...
@@GT1900garage Your skill and patience is amazing. I still kick myself because in 2007 I attended the Portland Swap Meet. There was a nearly restored Opel GT but what year it was, I cannot recall. It was a 2.0 and a four speed. It had recently had ALL the metal work done and had been painted British Racing Green. The interior was O.K., but needed better carpet and a few things to truly be flawless. I got to sit in the car, start then engine, etc. The seller wanted $3,000 US. I don't think I could find a similar GT for anything less than $15,000 today.
Yes, there are plenty of big ones that got away in our past.. I once remember (decades ago) seeing a burned Porche 911 sold at 6000€ in our local car dealer, but didnt have money....Oh that would have been a catch of the day now....
The roof panel lost its curve because you trimmed off the edge. The edge metal was keeping the shape you wheeled in the center. Once the edge was gone, the stretched metal inside was able to stretch out and that flattened the panel. Better to cut the panel almost to size in the beginning so less needs to be removed.
Thanks for the comment. Yes, that was expected, my plan was to shrink the edges to create pressure for corners and then with english wheel work through the panel to desired shape. Aim was to have panel bending both directions (lengthwise and widthwise) to the point where there is no diagonal twisting (i.e. no pressure against edges) and THEN trim off the edges. However, the panel lost more its bending (in both ways) than I expected, hence plan B.
I kindly disagree about cutting the panel straight away to correct size. I rather do it slightly bigger so I have bit more elbow room with the english wheel to find the correct shape within the boundaries of the final size of the hole (drawn with sharpie). I do understand your point, when the outer edge is not "wheeled" it has difference in pressure, and may cause distortion. However, if the panel is right away at the same size, the wheel should reach the far end of the panel edge, and popping off the edge all the time. And that would create even more uneven distortion for the edge. I still have some wheeling to do with the panel, it is still not at the correct hight, (+2mm upwards still needed). So I have to revisit the panel ....
Sehr gut gemacht! 👍
Ich hätte nichts gegen die Arbeitsgeräusche statt der Musik.
Die richtigen Geräusche gehören für mich zu solchen Kunstwerken dazu 👏
Wirst du das Blech im Dach einkleben?
So kannst du den Verzug des schweißen vermeiden.
Das Bleche einkleben mit Karosseriekleber habe ich schon bei anderen Kanälen gesehen!
Gute Frage, ich habe mich noch nicht entschieden, ob ich den Karosseriekleber von Profis oder durch Schweißen verwenden soll.
Meinten Sie, dass Sie Musik mögen oder nicht?
Ich mag die Musik 👍
Aber ich mag auch die Geräusche von den Werkzeugen.
Gerade beim hämmern oder schweißen oder schleifen hört man wie die Werkzeuge angewendet werden und wie das Material darauf reagiert.
Habe auf anderen Kanälen die Verwendung von 3M Karosseriekleber bei großen Blechflächen gesehen, dadurch ist die Gefahr von Verzug nicht gegeben.
Hugely impressed with your work on this beautiful car. Are you a professional bodyworker?
I wish! This is my second project ever. I did my Mini 10 years ago, but it had no complex panels to be done..So this is my learning process to sheet metal bodywork...
On kyllä ollu hieno kattoo aina joka jakso. Aavistuksen jo harmittaa se jakso "42" kun auto on valmis ja videot loppuu.
Nou hätä, korvan takana on seuraava projekti jo muhimassa.. Arvostan koko sarjan läpikäyneitä. Kiitos kommentista ja katseluista.
todella tarkkaa sepitystä🛠,mikä mahtaa olla ammattisi??
Kiitti kommentista, Päivätyö ei liity, tai ole koskaan liittynyt autoihin. Toimistotyötä teollisuuden yrityksessä teen. Tämä projekti on toinen auto mitä koskaan olen laitellut, ja ensimmäinen isompi ja vaikeampi entisöinti...
Was sunroof optional on the gt or was it something that just people made them self?
Im not a Opel expert, but as far as I know, it was not an option. This sunroof was installed back in 80's I assume...It was a trend in Finland as well in 80's, but every person who did it (usually to some cool car, like Ford Capri) regret it badly afterwards...
@@GT1900garage I would think the same as you. Never seen one with a sunroof.
@@GT1900garage Was it that infamous Finlandia sunroof? Water leaks in on a sunny day...
Yep, same one....
I hate sunroofs. Leakage, noise etc. I always buy cars with flahdach - flat roof, no sunroof ^^.
Same...and especially with classic cars....
Is it the builders intentions to see this cover say proud , when finished or to have a original finish and have it disappear ? 🤔🇦🇺
You mean the seam? Hopefully to look original and make the roof intact again...
So many cars trashed by those stupid cut-in sunroofs, almost as bad as t tops. I used to work in one of those big auto parts outfits back in the late 80's and sold bunches of them...guessing every one leaked. Partner's Ranchero GT got one at that time too...of course no floors left in it now
Thanks for the comment, Yes, those were pop in Finland in 80´s as well, and usually those were put on already cool cars like Ford Capris or other somewhat rare coupes....and ruined them for good..
I don't understand (never) why, when someone uses a template to mark out a panel on a sheet of metal, they do not put one (straight) edge of the template, on the straight edge of the metal...it saves a cut and saves material?
Thanks for the comment, and views !! Reason for that is pretty simple. Usually bending radius's, and stretching and shrinking of metal surprises the maker. I rather have 10mm extra to cut off, than remake the panel for being 2mm too small, due to unexpected behavior of the metal. With the roof panel here, however, the reason was different.
I made the panel slightly bigger so I have bit more room with the english wheel to find the correct shape within the boundaries of the final size of the hole (drawn with sharpie). if the panel is right away at the correct size, the wheel should reach the far end of the panel edge, and popping off the edge all the time. And that would create uneven distortion for the edge. I rather work through the shape and then trim off the edges.
When I was working in a Sunderland UK bodyshop in the 90's the manager asked me to weld the sunroof up on a Jag XJS I said we haven't got the gear to do it I was told do my best I cut a sheet of steel to size welded it in filled it , I had spray filler on it after the bodyfiller I had blocked down one side he came across said doesn't have to that good it's getting a vinyl roof so the painter DA'd the other fitting it back up asked when the vinyl roof guy was coming he said he was only joking the looked a mess my side was mint , he was a right dick .
I was freelancing in the 90's I was asked to price welding a sunroof up on a Bentley S1 at a guys house , I said a minimum of £500 say £1500 paint and materials in todays money I though that was cheap the bloke nearly had a heart attack quarter million ££££ house tight or what , didn't get the job TFFT .
Yes. People often misunderstand the vast amount of work required fore "job well done". It is all about man hours, simple patch plate could take hours if you do it properly...
It´s not my car I don´t like to drive an Opel GT with the Opel Kadett B pedals. I remember to drive this car in the Opel workshop. I think I would glue the roof panel in.
Only early GTs had the Kadett pedals. My GT is a 1973 and they're perfectly usable.
I did drive a Kadett B Rallye once and it required a very delicate touch. Would not like that in a GT!
Thanks for comment. Not an expert of a Opels, but with decent suspension, somewhat spiced up engine, nice seat (compared to Mini)...I think I'm very happy driving this on Finnish roads at summer...And loving driving the Mini, with those pedals...I think I'm OK . Seriously considering the gluing the roof panel....
Do you allready know which color you paint it?
99.99% sure.. Porsche RED
@@GT1900garage thank you for the Information i hoped that you paint it in the original orange
Sorry, the original is still an option, but I think the red is my choice...
Titanic work
It is, thanks for commenting.
Welding or Glue ?
Good question, I have been suggested that there are professional body glues that will last, on the other hand my "mentor" call for weld and proper "lead" work...
@@GT1900garage The professionells here in Germany uses Grue, because the warping if U weld large parts without a Frame on backside...
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Thanks for the link.. Yes, this is an option... we will see how it goes..