WWI and the Lessons for Today - Victor Davis Hanson
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- Опубліковано 9 чер 2014
- 100 years ago World War I began. What lessons have we learned since then? How had the lead-up to the Great War affected our government's policies, and how has the outcome affected how we plan and budget for future conflicts? American leadership in the world today is seen as waning, and isolationistic ideologies are growing. We should not forget that a strong U.S. presence abroad ensures safety and prosperity for all. What are the lessons from WWI for U.S. military and political leaders? Join us as we examine how these important lessons can inform today's American foreign policy and military engagement around the world.
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Is there a specific facet of WWI that you're particularly interested in?
Stephen Kotkin says the failure of Versailles wasn't lack of Allied will to impose, it was that the treaty was fundamentally flawed bc both Germany and more importantly Russia were down and diplomatically isolated. You can't restructure Europe while ignoring German and Russian power, or by assuming both of them will always be down.
@@dukedematteo1995 Nice facet. So we can suppose that everyone leaving France to clean up the mess didn't have anything to do with it? I mean like VDH pointed out?
@@craigwall9536 im sure the British and French were trying....but you can't restructure Europe without accounting for German power and Russian power......they knew they would be back.
How was it possible that Spain was able to sit out 2 world wars while all of Europe was aflame? Why did Franco get a pass and not get erased with other Fascists?
@@stevewilliamson8402 Geography, the Pyrenees and Gibralter isolated Spain from both conflicts and they didn't have a dog in either fight.
VDH is probably one of the finest contemporaneous lecturers in the world. He REALLY KNOWS HIS HISTORY.
He can explain it amazingly well also.
It´s a joy to listen all of VDH lectures.
No notes. A very eloquent speaker & easy to listen to.
Do you think so?
Vites well personally, yes.
VDH starts talking at 9:16
OMG THANK-YOOOOOUUUU!!
Vauban666 this should be the most liked comment spread the word everyone should do this
sank you
Thank you
Jesus christ
I remember as a boy sitting in my Grandfather's living room floor listening to him and Dad's brother's talk about WWI and Gpa's purple heart and how he earned it. Gpa had a helmet with a tall spike in a glass case on the book case...VDH has filled in a lot of holes in the story, thank you.
That helmet I think was called a pickelhaube.
I enjoy VDH lectures so much, I think I will sign a non agression pact with him to keep learning.
When I listen to Dr. Hanson I think back on my college history classes at a state run public school and realize how woefully inadequate, watered down and politically correct they were. I want a refund!
Tune in to Fox news pal - you will get all the right wing crapolla you want. A good chunk of lies wont matter to you either I suppose.
But he's telling also not even half of the truth. About who is to blame for outbreak of WW1 he's blaming Germany alone. And thats the only official version.
I prefere the non official version.
Jack Jones 67tt667665
Yeah I for the most part had a very poor instruction of history in school . I think that is why we are here , not everyone is interested but us . Imagine how the world might be if we were as knowledgeable then as we are now . The only thing that will trip us up is History revisionists
@@terencequinn2682 Correct, people like to hear stuff that confirms their own opinions.
VDH is a great lecturer because he has the ability, rare among academics, of cutting to the chase. I love the way he cuts through endless hours of debate about who was "at fault" by simply pointing out that Germany, not Russia, France or the UK, that was the invader. I would add that Germany invaded through Belgium in 1914 even though Brits had repeatedly warned them that would bring Britain in because in typically German fashion the General Staff kept reminding the Kaiser "The Plan is the Plan!"
I agree. I like when academics tell me what is true and what is false. How else am I to know what to think? I can’t be expected to use my brain to absorb and evaluate facts.
In the lock down of the plague I have been going back and studying poetry. After 3 hours I always return to History. Mr. Hanson is such a gift to the imagination,his insight so clearly expressed, I resume being the sedulous mentee. Thank You.
Hanson i hated this guy, literally hated him, but after all this virus stuff and govt control i realized he is so right about it, and about the culture of human life and how democracy was only tried once in Athens and only lasted 230 years, so its so crazy how he is right about so much.
In 1919, Hindenburg told a parliamentary committee that was investigating the cause of the war, that Germany lost because it had been stabbed in the back by civilians in Germany. In 1918, French general Charles Mangin had said that the Germans MUST be defeated in the field; otherwise, they wouldn't admit that they had lost -- which is precisely what happened. French general Ferdinand Foch said of the Versailles Treaty: "This is not a peace. It is an armistice for twenty years." (His estimate was wrong -- by 64 days.)
Stabbed in the back by Zionist Jews conspiring with the enemy to bring the USA into the war, In exchange for a foothold in Palestine.
imagine France losing 1.7 million soldiers and being faced with a new war 21 years later.
@Mike Mckay More of the magic jew who creates all the trouble in the world, while everyone else is some sort of drooling innocent. Such a nice safe scapegoat too--he won't chop your head off.
Yes all the bad stuff was going to be done to buy Mrs r Moore because her wanting my kids and my family and move me out of way and take my place why she was fighting with me her and all ghinea family members ok so I need for these people to stop lieing against I or any of my family members or friends ok
Allies weren’t even on German soil. The Germans advanced and got within 70 miles of Paris, and at that moment Marxists in factories went on strike and the Media in Germany turned against Germany. They wanted Germany to lose, so Britain would fulfill the Balfour declaration and give the jews a homeland in Palestine.
Every time I watch one of VDH's videos I learn something new, even if it is the same subject over again. My only complaints are that they're too short and there isn't enough time for questions.
The man is brilliant
Fascinating talk.
Why did Heritage have a man introduce a man who introduced a man who introduced the actual speaker? That's absolutely, farcically stupid.
@Mike Mckay Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Mike, Thug Life!. Haha
They also run a comedy school. This was a comic routine.
It’s not free, even tho you haven’t paid to listen to it. The sponsors get a moment to mention their good works.
This professor is one of the all too few professors to delineate the effects of the evil foreign policy of the Soviet Union on WWII.
The quote of Churchill's rejoinder to Stalin, when Stalin was crying about the lack of a major second front was masterful: "When Hitler was bombing London during the Battle of Britain, Hitler's planes were being supplied with Soviet oil!"
UA-camrs take note!
...or who could forget the, startling revelation, that preceding Tarhari Square (to speak of more recent times) some of the ammunition/bombs used against the People by their own Government were stamped "Made in the USA"
Two things-1)Just because something is stencilled 'made in USA' doesn't mean it was,paint is cheap.2) Arms don't always end up with the intended customer,all sorts of sinister illegal deals are made between gangsters,rogue nations,etc. not to mention theft,e.g. Sweden is a big arms manufacturer and seller,I don't hear them getting accused much in this.
When the Allied convoys finally limped into Murmansk after suffering huge losses to the U boat wolf packs the Soviets took everything they delivered are carefully stenciled over to hide the fact they were not Soviet made.
when stalin wanted a second front, where was he in the pacific? we could avoided a lot of island hopping if stalin allowed the US to launch from Russia. Doolitle's crew that bailed out in russia were imprisioned. FDR let stalin off the hook.
*But there was this:*
▪︎ Approximately nine out of ten Allied soldiers killed in WWII were Russian.
▪︎ Approximately nine out of ten German soldiers killed in WWII were killed by Russians.
_->_ In light of tgd foregoing, I'd say the USSR did it's part-_right_ ?
I watch or read everything he does - he should be in trumps cabinet
@@oooo000ooo3 Because he assumes/invents most of it
Why? Trump doesn't listen to reason.
@@mrswinkyuk Poor Stan. You're in over your head. Poor thing. You assume such lofty status for yourself. Tell us about your PhD from Stanford, your economics degree from Wharton, your skills at translating ancient Greek and your billions of dollars. No? Lol.
too qualified
If I had to pick anyone elses mind to have other than my own, I would choose VDH. This man is the definition of brilliant.
This man has more wisdom then any I have ever heard.
He hardly ever uses notes in his talks. Impressive his ability to wing it.
Talk about it!
@Bob Low Uh, no. David Irving should not be listened to on pretty much anything
Not only does he know his stuff, he has thought through , around what he knows as facts in light of subsequent happenings. He doesn’t allow himself to get caught up in blind rage at what he can see, better than most of us. Enlightening.
Thank you very much!
How much do you tip the guy, who introduces the guy who introduces the guy who introduces the actual Speaker, VDH?
WOW! So much knowledge and so many insights packed into about 50 minutes.
Important Lesson of History on WWI WW2
Great Learning!
Enough with the introductions - just start with VDH speaking !
3 people I had to skip - lel.
“Now I’d like to introduce the person who will be introducing the person speaking tonight.”
Best analysis I've ever heard on WW1, thank you for sharing.
Thanks for watching. Glad you enjoyed!
Even granting the Versailles treaty may not have been that bad objectively (which I would debate), what matters is that it was absolutely perceived that way by the German populace.
VDH gives a fresh perspective on the Treaty of Versailles, that it was the enforcement of it, and not the severity of it that made it fail. However I wonder if the allies could have gotten an agreement to enforce compliance either in word or practice, since Germany was never defeated. They were 70 miles inside France when they gave up and went home. The German military and industry was still in tact. There is a limit as to how much you can do when you don't have a decisive victory.
I suppose if, after the armistice, the entente said "we're going to occupy you" and the Germans said no, then the war would've resumed, which inevitably would've ended in complete German defeat but probably would've been a real slog with tens of thousands more dead at least.
Germany may never have signed an Armistice under those terms, and since they were inside French territory the allies were probably glad to get them to go home. They were in a good defensive position and could have continued to the war a long time. I suspect the reason they signed had more to do with them not being able to go on the offensive - so there was no point, but the defense could hve continued a long time. The really question I have is why Germany signed the Treaty of Versaill. @@chillpengeru
what a conclusion to the dissertation, I do so much enjoy the attitude of this once he got rolling! It is a humbling experience to hear you speak
9:15 Cut to the chase
THANKS
no foreplay?
How is it possible that one man, VDH, can have at his fingertips the vast amount of history that emanates from these wonderful speeches? God Bless
Lecture starts at 9:07.
I learn each time victor Davis Hanson speaks !!!
Thank God for Harry Truman!
Enjoyed 👌
Thank you for the lecture on 1st and 2nd World War Professor Victor Davis Hanson.
One of the great things about looking at stuff that has been fermenting for 5 years is to visualize what took place afterward. 49:13 is a very telling moment, in light of April 1975 and the rerun in August 2021. Thank you Mr. VDH
An hour well spent. Thank you, Dr. Hanson.
Brilliant!
Superb.
David Corbett explain. I find his grasp of history to be inexcusably I'll informed.
reading "A World Undone" now
the amount of casualties and mass slaughter is unbelievable. I cant get my head around the numbers.
both my grand fathers fought at Verdun. It was a 10 month blood bath.
One of my favorite non-fiction books
FYI. Group fawning and mutual adulation ends at 9:16 when the actual talk begins.
This was a superb anslysis!
VDH = the lifeform which emerges when one completes the following simple equation: scathing intellect + from-the-roots-up education + logical thought process
"I just want to introduce a guy who's going to introduce the guy who's going to introduce our speaker for this evening".
He’s an American treasure. Brilliant man.
He starts at 9:14
Thank you
Jump to 9 min (introductions till then)
Thank you VDH! Please explain to everyone how legalizing one plant will help 7.5 billion poor people eliminate hunger, homelessness, alcoholism, drug addiction, etc,etc,etc. U.S. savings of 5 Trillion annually!
Main Talk starts at 0:09:15
Just came back to this gem after years.
He claims Germany wanted to take "50, 60 percent of France". This is a phantastical claim in itself. I am not aware of any German govenment document that came even remotely close to this. He is phantasyzing.
"France did not invade Germany". Yes, she did, as early as August 7th 1914 French troops invaded the Elsass and the battle of Mühlhausen ensued. French troops remained entrenched in the southwest of the Elsass for the remainder of the War.
Starts at 9:12
Need more introducers next time
😱😱😁
There's always people queuing up for the reflected glory of a "shared" stage
@Tim v1.0: Yeah, don't you just hate it when the main speaker takes valuable time away from the introducers . . .
Tim v1.0 ha ha ha
Yipping stops at 9:22
can someone add the caption? this is a great talk!
The Czar was our ally, not the bolshevist's.
Mistake in the title. "WWI and the Lessons for Today - Victor DAVIS Hanson" Named after one of his relations, who was in turn, was named after Jefferson Davis, I believe... correct me if I'm wrong, although I thought I heard him say this in an interview.
VDH is great, and honest. In 2020, we have nearly lost the U.S. November we will find out, eh ?
:I hope I don't sound as crazy as I feel". LOL
49:12 What is he referring to? Carmel? Karmele?
It's true that the U.S. didn't help France or Britain with a declaration of war when Germany attacked them, but --
(1) Both France and Britain had pursued appeasement -- selling out Czechoslovakia in 1938 -- and they had stood idle while Poland was invaded; however, France and Britain were disappointed when the U.S. treated them similarly.
(2) The U.S. did supply Britain with war materiel, even though it didn't have treaty obligations to do so. Eventually, under Lend-Lease, the U.S. essentially Gave materiel to Britain.
Which they are still repaying.
Heath Savage ...great point Heath...though Britain actually paid it off in 2006....but still, I always thought it was a gift...but...nope...it was all payable including interest....
Gen. Taylor is an outstanding Marine and a great patriot.
I also believe the friendship between America and allies are always important.
Doc, what ever do you mean by saying that there probably would not have been a WWII if Russia had been luke warm to it's former allies?
Without peaceful democracies and republics willing to use their economic powers and appear to be 100% willing to be equally belligerent, the world will totally tear itself apart.
Alsace and Lorraine (the latter for the biggest part) are ethnically german. Taken by Louis XIV. in the 1680s along massive devestation of the whole upper rhine valley and the palatinate (just after the 30 years war devestated everything there). Just look at a map and read the names of cities there/...that never even gets mentioned... and while he was at it, he threw in luxemburg, too, and Holland. Because... why not as sun king?^^
a book, that may be of interest is...You are the general...of the Great Decisions Series...it talks of this...and more...
Russia, the Mac of the World Wars. "I'm playing both sides"
Japan attacked Pearl Harbor after the US imposed an oil embargo against it, so stated the many books I've read on WW1. Documentaries too! I trust Dr. Hanson, but will do more research.
I wouldn't trust anything he says after hearing this.
Good lecture, once we finally get to it, but preceded by 9 minutes of no less than three successive tedious introductions by other speakers!
Wonderful presentation but I wish Dr. Hanson would learn to control his arms. He hit the mike nearly a dozen times.
Are you for real ~ perhaps you don't have the temperament to listen and comment in a respectful manner.
I wish you would control your irritability and NOT decide to announce to all and sundry that he should LEARN to control his arms - he told us that he was recovering from what obviously was a serious facial injury - what is your excuse for such disrespect. Why don't you LEARN to have some manners.
Are you kidding? With all his detailed information on a monumental event in history, this is all that came to mind for you to comment on?
honestly, give this guy a clip on mic and battery pack, let him wander the lecture hall, and watch the war come to life in front of you.
Germany vs USA, like wine and water.
Lecture starts around 9:15 time spot
TY.
What amaze me about Germany is why they declared war on the United States about four days after the attack on Pearl Harbor. Why?? The USA was halfway around the world for the most part and my guess is Germany, declare war, basically because of their alliance with Japan. Germany knew we had a very large navy, but they may or may not have known at the time with what little intelligent people had then, but I’m sure that Germany was aware that America had a rather small army.. after world war one the USA went back to being essentially like we were except that we continue to keep our navy large which with some thing with DON starting in the early 1800s after we became an independent country because the superior navy was needed then. It is still needed today in addition to air and ground forces, but the U.S. Navy and countries who have pretty good navies are in good military positions, because if they have a pretty large naval fleet, that is not as large, but they’re experts, and extremely subordinate and excel at their jobs, and what they do the US navy and any other larger or well trained staffed and stocked navy is necessary in order to transfer goods across the sea, in addition to troops and ammunition, plainest, & tanks. M3 what is the first tank made by GM I think and it was OK but they had problems with it in North Africa and within about six or eight months it was replaced with the M4 otherwise known as the Sherman!! The Sherman was a beast, but I still don’t know if it was up to the level of the tiger tanks Germany. According to different people, I get different opinions and some people say the Tigers we’re better and other people say they were actually about the same..
I’m aware that the Sherman tanks were so superior that the British were able to use them successfully in North Africa and win a battle against the Germans without the help of American soldiers helping them . Of course, that did a lot for British morale. In addition to the fact that it must’ve been a good tank and I’m not saying that British tank crews are any worse trained or not as good as Americans, but merely saying that I do think overall our tank units from America and World War II and the raptor were definitely better than the UK but it took a lot of hard work and training when building a barn U.S. Army, so it wasn’t just something that game natural except that a lot of Americans like to fight and scuffle
One big thing that Hitler really underestimated about Americans he believed Americans to be to decadent and maybe sissy by viewing American women only to be housewives ! Mini world, but most so-called housewives had their hard jobs around the home to do, unless they lived in the city, or they were wealthy . professional, because we really weren’t pro military at all and we weren’t , but sadly that was before the great big DOD and military industrial complex became too big for their pants, and really just a money making machine. Sadly, it’s a Castro Bennington, American lives i& sadly,,innocent people in other countries, especially from the Vietnam war and there after..
I totally understand when the military is in another country and they’re amongst local civilians. They really don’t know exactly who is friendly and who’s though so they really do have to watch their backs all the time and be looking over their shoulder because just like in Vietnam little kids would walk up to soldiers asking for candy and of the sea with a strap the bomb to this little kid just to blow the kid up in order to kill for five American GIs. It’s despicable, but that’s how some cultures are.
Taylor made comments, especially about the women in America and said that they didn’t work hard white German women and they were thinner and always worried about their make up and panty hose and dancing. Where is German women wear a good stock 😂 German women would work they’re hard labor jobs in addition to having three or five superior, Aryan, race, children and taking care of their husbands, etc. Wow.!! Hitler was really not just an antisemitic and a bigot racist, but also very shallow minded and shortsighted. It goes to show how little he knew about Americans because he made fun and laughed at our big plants making hundreds of thousands of automobiles every year but never once did he ever consider that all of these huge automobile industrial plants expanded and built to be bigger and turned into complete and utter war. Making machines ran by women and older men who were off at war.. it was terrible to identify women like that because Americans are a little bit of everything, and an American woman could wear her dresses, pantyhose, high heels and her make up and love dancing, and yet at the same time they can put on their house, cleaning attire & be wearing those culottes or jeans in addition to having their hair, pulled back and bandannas and scarves, doing hard-core, have any labor and especially on the farms and in the south.
I’ve talked to so many people on social media over the years and if they’re 40 and older Europeans and even people in North Africa and certainly still talk today about how the Brief, Britishthat, Canadian, American, and French resistance, soldiers and French soldiers, and especially the ones in France after having been liberated by the allies in July 1944!! That helped a son to defeat Germany even though I believe a lot of the French military, and their weaponry has been mostly taken by the Germans or destroyed, are the four years they’d been occupied. it’s just nice to hear people around the world say that of course it was our brave men fighting together in the military, who worked in sacrifice there lives in limbs to free Europe as a dictatorship, but IF NOT for the massive empowered, industrialized plants in America, where mostly women were working because the men were drafted, and the women worked from the ages of 16 happened to their 50s-60s, along side men who were older and had fought in World War I as older men, but either didn’t get drafted or they had health problems and stayed back, but they were all working in factories, building weapons and planes, tanks, ships
Sure women did like to wear make up and panty hose in some areas of America by Hitler was overgeneralizing American an American women as a whole, and that wasn’t lies because our country has always been so Vasiliy diverse !!
Germany didn't have double the industrial base of the UK approaching WW2, they were roughly even, small edge to Germany in GDP size and industrial output but more financial muscle and higher wealth per adult to tap into in the UK.
Fourteen points? Even God only had ten points...
Stealing from Georges Clemenceau.
Wilson forced the Kaiser to abdicate by refusing to negotiate an armistice unless Wilhelm was gone. Was this a mistake?
NINE MINUTES of opening?!?!
Good lecture but the name should really be "WWII With a Few Comments about how the Experience of WWI Influenced Expectations During WWII".
Blitzkrieg is a battle winning tactic, in support of a larger war winning strategy which requires large numbers of men, and materiel. Much like the U.S. Civil war when Sherman and Sheridan divided up the South. Maneuver elements, backed by a big, grinding, occupation force. we did it right in the Gulf War, but didn't have the numbers for it in OIF.
The treaty ending the Franco-Prussian War (1870-1) required France to pay an indemnity of 5 billion francs, to be occupied until that indemnity was paid, and to cede territory (Alsace-Lorraine) to Germany -- terms that were not drastically different from those of the Versailles Treaty.
So much of war is psychological
I can't help but think that last supper must have been a bit tense, with Jesus relating the bread to his broken skin and the wine to his own blood.
I bet no one touched the meatballs.
You do not have enough intelligence to grasp the idea of symbolism - a bit of a concrete thinker I am guessing.
that is a handicap if I ever saw one. lol.
Britain was a land power during WW1 because there was not a large air force as there was during WW2 which required over 2 million men and women to operate and maintain. Britain sent over 2 million men to France during WW1. Hence the army was small simply because the manpower was not available, especially when you consider the Royal Navy also required about the same in manpower. Between those two services, nearly 5 million personnel were used. This left the army with very little in the way of men and material.
Air power in 1914 was irreverent bar the use for reconnaissance which was the only mission that aircraft of the period were known to be capable of doing at the start. The British did have a small well trained "Expeditionary" Force in the UK, which man for man was as good or better than any soldier in the world. The bulk of the British Army in 1914 was mostly locally recruited colonial troops used in the defence and policing of the Empire (i.e. India and Africa).
Three guys introducing each other and eight minutes congratulating one other on being great Americans before we finally get to it. Is this an American thing?
the bragging about Americanism is to provide cover for the fact they are employed by Israel.
Unfortunately yes
What do you expect from right wing commentators?
What you very rude people don't understand is that these speeches are usually held as a private get together by people who belong to organizations who have worked together for years and they allow this speech by such a terrific historian as Victor Davis Hanson to go out to the public for free now on UA-cam.
All this means a lot of work and organizing and cost. These are also generally get togethers by people who have done much for the organization or club or country. Maybe only Americans are so civic minded.
I guess it means that not many people nowadays have an understanding of what it means to be involved like this.
The rude carping certainly gives away your lack of experience of group activity.
Please don't be so crass or perhaps just shut up and don't comment - you embarrass yourselves by trolling.
Someone warned me that most commenters on UA-cam were around 12 years old (Perhaps even the 50 year oldies too!) - I now believe them.
11, 11, 11, 1918
BUT THE NOT TRANSLATING OF LIVE SHOWS AFFECTED THE VOTTING RIGHT OR THE VOTING PRIBILIGE? I CONSIDER IT A PRIVILEGEI
Why is this man not Secretary of State !?
Because Trump doesn't read books.
MacArthur only landed with cameras rolling
All in his head, events, year, month, day, details, summary, lessons, numbers, statistics. No notes.
He seems to have forgotten that USSR was not the only one two fight on two sides. And Italy?
Italy was fighting? You got visual proof?
You misquoted.
VDH stated that of the five major combatants (Germany, Japan, USSR, UK & US) the USSR was the only combatant to deal , as both ally and enemy, with **all** of the other four.
U-Boats off the U.S. East Coast, as well as bombers over London, were fueled by Soviet oil.
I cannot believe he says Nu Cue Lar.
Lesson to be learnt from war?
Don't screw up the peace .
Mike drop....
Audience in shock!
Short version of why VDH is the man:
ua-cam.com/video/czZlb7LshN0/v-deo.html
How is it that VDH always gets these absurdly long introductions?
They want to be the guy who introduces the guy who introduces the guy who introduces VDH.
War machine full on.
Lol The questioner seemed to have high hopes for Italy. But Victor Hansen deflated any Italian ego in under 2 Mins
Few historians as Victor Hanson understand that the War I begun in 1870 and continue in War II : 3 episodes of the same War. But no historian can explain WHY so much Peoples was fighting against others with so much cruelty. We need a rational metaphysian like Spinoza to find among all the historical facts the unconscious reasons of this extraordinary carnage.
By the 1870s, the enormous agricultural production of the Americas, especially the USA, was destroying the agrarian economies of European states, and would continue to do so until the EC/EU began erecting tariff barriers after WWII. This economic pressure resulted in carnage.
@@tdpay9015 Rubbish, a country can sell it's own farm produce cheaper to itself.
The reason we have wars is Human Nature.
As long as some humans adore their Kings and Queens and Leaders and their political systems allow these Elites to make all the decision for them then they will end up fighting for the Elite's agendas.
Socialism caters to Elites getting in charge and the people then become subject all to their whims whereas the market and fair trade is best for all.
History has all the lessons right there to learn from but not all people are of equal intellect and so can be easily led and easily lied to. Everything is on the Internet now so go study some history without bias.
@@judithsmith8014 stop being so ideologically blinkered and learn to read. I said nothing about socialism. If tariffs are socialist, then Donald Trump is a socialist.
Hetzer firefly
I'll tell you the lesson that should be learned from WW1 and the others that followed if the politicians and their controllers try what they did before they're going to find it won't be nation citizen vs nation citizen but native citizens vs native politician.
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