Beginner’s Mind, Already Free
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- Опубліковано 6 чер 2024
- What is ‘beginner’s mind’, and how does that relate to the non-dual understanding?
In short, Rupert explains that it is the mind in its natural condition before it has been conditioned by thought and perception. It’s a natural state of openness and peace that remains if we remove from the mind everything we have acquired from experience. Not some extraordinary, enlightened mind - just our essential, natural condition.
The reason various spiritual traditions have obscured this simple, direct understanding is that, over the centuries, people had innumerable questions and objections. In response, the teachings put forth innumerable ideas and pathways. But the truth is simple, and all that paraphernalia is unnecessary.
He concludes: ‘We have direct access to what we essentially are . . . and we can stand completely free of all traditions, teachers and ideas.’
*This video is from one of Rupert’s in-person retreats at The Vedanta, 3-10 June 2023. For more information on upcoming retreats (many of which can be attended online via livestream) go to:
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Timestamps:
0:00 What Is Beginner’s Mind?
0:55 Why Are Spiritual Teachings So Complex?
1:55 The Essence of Spirituality
2:43 The Idea of Enlightenment
3:35 Direct Access to Our Self
4:33 Truth Is Simple
5:26 The Non-dual Understanding
6:30 Already Free
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I began meditating 50 years ago and spent decades practicing, yet I always felt that somehow something was missing. Then I came upon Nisargadatta Maharaj and the teachings of non-duality … I AM. It was then that a tremendous light turned on and I saw what was ‘missing’. So simple, so complete, so obvious. Yet, with all of the meditating, teachings and ‘paraphernalia’ that accompanied the tradition I was in, it was still from a dualistic perspective. I had been experiencing Being easily for decades, yet it was taught as something to experience and then spring into action as the separate self. Blessings and thanks, Rupert!!!! Blessings ❤️
Same here 😅 when i discovered Rupert Spira in combination with Bernardo Kastrup was when the lights went off for me. I still look forward to Rupert's videos, they always stir contemplation which i enjoy very much
@@malabuha For me, it has been TM. A great technique, for sure. But it was geared to the Western mentality where the idea of non-duality, no separate self, the idea the we are living in a dream so to speak, would be un palatable. The idea was to experience Being and then go back to the separate self.
Yeah! Me too! Isn't it totally wild how Mr. Rupert has hit upon such a clear and contemporary way of articulating these issues and topics? So validating and encouraging and helpful.
So much Love and clarity❤,Thank you again ❤
@@nsbd90now yup, all due respect for helping us understand
So true!!! Too much prosperity gospel and heart sell business models masquerading as religion. No more teachers No more teaching. No more pedestalizing anyone. No more labels to cling to. And yet this requires tremendous awareness and courage to transcend the tribalistic egoic midbrain reflexes that simply want to belong, fit in, and allow someone else to tell you how to think and what to believe
Like many in this comment section I suppose, I too was involved in a “tradition”, Zen Buddhism. But after many years of on and off again practice I finally “got it” after reading the work of Eckhart Tolle (a great explainer and simplifier of spiritual traditions) and Nisargadatta Maharaj. I went back to my old, dog-eared copy of Suzuki Roshi’s great classic “Zen Mind, Beginners Mind” and finally understood it, that it wasn’t high falutin’ statements anymore but actually an accurate description of his Buddha mind state of Being. Shook me to my core. And never again have I been able to call myself a Buddhist or any other orthodoxy…
Yes that's it. The point is not to identify as this or as that. Don't put your personality under a group or a sect.
I too study many, too many lol, traditions and philosophies but I don't put a label over me as being a Stoic or a Buddhist or anything... I just find value and help in those teachings.
So neither do I worship any figure like Jesus or Buddha and so many great teachers. Love and respect for them, but only as fellow human beings who help others and not as authority.
We are all the Truth and Truth is inside us.
Different paths, one reality
I also study and learn different philosophy and religion, I use Buddhist practice to enrichment, I'm ok with using the label Buddhist for convenience.
@Alex722 Nice simple comment, man. That's defines many of us.
My conditioning and my trauma and my addictions and illusions were so strong that I had to go the roundabout way first in order to get to this place where now I see what you're saying Rupert. Now I can go directly to that place but it took letting go of a lot and healing a lot and realizing a lot in order to get here. And it took all those other practices of focus, meditation, outwardly and focus meditation, inwardly and inner child healing to get to this place of peace and love and being able to see pure being. So many layers of BS to get through. I guess I don't have prospective on if I would have heard this at the beginning of my journey 2 and 1/2 years ago. But I was so crazy insane that I don't think I would have been able to comprehend what you were saying at this point. I love you Rupert. You've helped me tremendously. I'm forever in gratitude. 🙏
It’s been the exact opposite for me, in fact, to suggest that Rupert’s actions are at all unhelpful is a crime, and can only be spoken from identifying with or getting entangled in suffering.
And I don’t mean to suggest that Rupert is perfect because he is not nor is any object, but I have not come across Rupert’s actions at all unhelpful.
I've had a similar journey
I have a lot to thank Rupert for. Spiritual traditions are wonderful as they are. The "teaching" does not need to be taken out of them. People who are Buddhist monks, or belong to any other tradition belong to that tradition for a reason. Not everything has to bend to the views and will of our "western" world. Yes the recognition is the same. But there is a lot more than that in all of the many beautiful traditions existing. Self realization is just the beginning. And then you can appreciate everything as it is and learn and experience even more than you thought is possible. In other words, don't limit yourself just to a simple recognition and keep ignorantly discarding everything else there is.
Nothing to say, but feelings of gratitude Rupert
Beyond words. Deepest gratitude to you Rupert.
I understand what you are saying, Ravin. I mean no disrespect, at all. And…. I am 59. I started practicing at Karme Choling in Vermont back in 1991 and have been meditating daily ever since. I agree with the principle of what you are saying. The practice has to be wholehearted and earnest with no other intention but awakening, period. And teachers are very vital and important on one’s journey. And yet, when I started listening to The Waking Up Course in 2019, I was astonished: I began “getting it” - or, more accurately, to be more able to “be it” - in a way I never did in the 30 years prior to that. Not only sessions with Sam Harris, but Goldstein, Watts, Adyashanti, Jayasara Samineri and many others taught me in ways that I did not have even a remote chance of experiencing unless I quit working [and surfing ;-) ]. And then there is this! Rupert on youtube, not to mention countless other teachers. Again, I respect the reverence and caution you expressed in your thoughtful post. No one can meditate for us. One either does it or not. No short cuts. And yet, the path has broadened greatly since Rupert and I stepped on it. In this case, cyberspace has been a real inspiring and helpful gift in getting free. Much peace to you and anyone who took the time to read this terribly loquacious post.
I went a roundabout way too, I am approaching 80 ! fit and well and it's so reassuring to hear this, in fact, I "knew" who I was at around age 10, but with a strict Catholic upbringing it kind of got submerged. Thank you Rupert.
Thank you Rupert from the bottom of my 76 years old heart. I appreciate you mentioning the connections to different “spiritual” cultures.
What really landed for me a while back is that to be present isn't always a transcendent or even "spiritual feeling" experience. You're just present. Sometimes it gives way to something transcendent, usually not.
Tellement beau et tellement puissant… Waw, merci pour ce si beau et profond partage 💙🌟
Absolute gem
Beautiful!
Thanks so much, Rupert ❤
so simple and beautiful 🙏
Crystal clear, thank you!
Spot on. ❤
So Great to hear you ❤
Thank you Rupert and thank you life. There was never anywhere to get to 😅🙏
Rupert has shown and explained so many truths so well. And it's also true that these other paths can assist as he does. Having a guru and a mantra can bring one to the enlightenment which has always been. Actually, there are fantastic spiritual realizations to be had--but Rupert is on the path of knowledge and they don't focus on sacred illumination- their path is to be aware of pure being in the now moment. It's beautiful and a fantastic path-- one needs nothing more! But the realizations of Christian mystics (read Ruysbroeck) are astounding. The vedantists in the Ramakrishna tradition have transformed many of my friends. None are superior to another all are amazingly blessed.
Totally agree! In my early years the path began with the ideas of Gurdjieff and the various great teachers and teachings up to Ramana. That was almost forty years ago. Now I no longer need ideas and teachers (although I respect many). Ultimately, the direct path remains, although I am well aware that not everyone is ready for that.
The simple is not an entity, not a thing in itself that is so simple. 'It' is simple for someone who realizes who and what he or she is. It is not always true that the direct path is the only correct path, nor that in this day and age tradition and the many scriptures are detours that we no longer need. It depends on the person, on his past, his conditioning, the ego as it has formed. It is indeed just as simple as Archimedes' law, but without knowledge and insight, this law is also far from clear to everyone.
WOW...👁💥💫❤🙏🙏🙏
Pathless path, occasionally I return to listen to teacher:).
Thankyou so much Rupert ❤
So Much Heartfelt Gratitude Love & Appreciation, ❤🙏
Thank you Rupert. I was introduced to Zen mind through Buddhism and Mindfulness. It can be helpful to come back to this and know nothing but be at peace ❤
Rupert clarification is our wisdom
That which many unconscious or consciously have practised or have known he has validated it in precise wording thank you Rupert for the insights that you share
Thank you Rupert ❤🙏
Oh no I rely on Hanumanji and Sai Baba, that won't work.
Respect. Only respect for a teacher that can say "every teaching goes there and you don't need further lessons. You only must be able to hear and understand". I don't hope anymore, I lived enough in hell to understand that heaven is a state of mind. That whatever the future is I can stay good or bad, everything is on my hands. No one can make me feel bad or good as I can
It's also greater than just a state of mind, we are beyond states! We are the consciousness which observes the mind and we use the mind for having this human experience. True FREEDOM, freedom from mind.
Being as that is simple as f lol not a single word needed. simpler than simplicity :D
💗 Amen
i was aware from a young age. tools are no good unless you take it into the real world of experience. any good teacher will tell you that you don't need anything except yourself.
In fact, our environment, our ideas about the world, about reality, conscious and unconscious, etc. will always be a kind of religion to which we are affiliated. Rupertspiraism can also exist, if necessary. I don't think the biggest problem is practicing in a Zen sangha, or frequenting a Christian community...but rather what our relationship with that tradition is like, if even being at the heart of a tradition we remain intimately free from it. If, even being in the midst of a Western society, full of concepts, ideas, and a sick way of living, we are capable of being free from it and remaining faithful to our essence.
Precisely because we are immersed in such a confusing and complex society, getting in touch with a true tradition can save your life. A tradition that does not live on the accumulation of the past but is connected to the fresh source for centuries and guides with wisdom.
Thank you Rupert ❤️
40 years of searching, seeking, and doing, only to find the answer is already within. Thank you Rupert.💙
It took a long time but not another lifetime. Thanks Rupert.
400K followers!! 👏👏👏❤❤❤
❤ So beautiful, thank you! ❤
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I stripped myself of everything. All I do is sit by myself all the time contemplating God. I am not the body. I am the eternal Spirit/Soul/Atman/Self.
Beautifully simple, thank you ❤️
Beautifully stated. The path leads back to self, beyond teachings, traditions, trinkets, or tryptamines.
Can we get rupert an appointment with the politicians of the world?
“Stand in your naked being autonomous and free, needing nothing” 🙏
Brilliant Ruperty
This is what Nisrgadatta maharaj did
No, not at all. You and Rupert both are completely and fundamentally misrepresenting Nisargadatta.
Cutting out all the word salads, we can go straight to what Rupert has claimed, and, What statements Nisargadatta has actually made.
Nisargadatta may have said many things. But, when it came to the topic on the Absolute Reality of Existence, he made sure not to any room for distortions or manipulations.
Nisargadatta was saying something completely and fundamentally different from what Rupert preaches. Couldn't be any more different fundamentally. Something completely different.
Nisargadatta's understanding about the Absolute Reality of Existence, was actually much more closer to science.
Whereas Rupert's ideology is a religious model. A religious ideology, a religious view on the nature of Existence.
Rupert claims that consciouness is the Absolute Truth of Existence.
Nisargadatta stated, that, the Absolute Reality is prior to consciouness.
Rupert claims that consciouness as the Absolute Reality, knows Itself to be infinite. He's mistaking a concept as Reality.
Nisargadatta firmly stated, that, the Absolute doesn't know that It Is. He further explained why it is so.
He stated that, the Absolute cannot know itself, because, it is prior to consciousness, which is the only instrument of knowledge.
That is the reason , why, Nisargadatta negated all knowledge, all self knowledge from knowingness or consciouness from being equated with the Absolute Itself.
Someone like Rupert might wonder, in ignorance, then, what is it that knows the Absolute?
Nisargadatta simply points out the ignorance inherient in the question, coming from knowingness or knowing which is fraudulent in character.
Nisargadatta says, the question itself is from Ignorance. Because, prior to consciousness, the only instrument of knowledge, who or what is there to ask questions?
Rupert has claimed that "knowing " " knowingness " as the Truth of Reality.
Nisargadatta stated that knowing or knowingness is all fraudulent. He further stated, that, it is the knowing or knowingness that has brought all the mischief (sufferings) in the world.
Rupert claims that God or God's infinite being is the Absolute Reality.
Nisargadatta stated that God (Brahman) is not the Absolute Reality. He stated, that, that the Absolute is prior to God (Brahman).
Couldn't be anymore different fundamentally.
Rupert quotes anyone and anything out of context to promote his religious ideology, his books and his retreats.
Often, referring to religious texts like the old testament, like the story of Moses hearing God's voice in a burning bush to validate his religious view on Existence.
Why would anyone in the right mind seeking Truth, would refer to or rely on what is most likely a made up story of a man , suffering from psychosis, hearing God's voices in a burning bush, or claming to have seen God writing some laws on a stone?
Unless, you're completely lost in a religious ideology, mistaking it for something that it is not.
Self deception always wins, when ignorance is being serviced.
It always has. Because, It bets on the ignorance for the win.
We're talking about understanding the Absolute true nature of ourselves here.
One can never be too careful, nor, be contemplative enough when it comes to understanding the Absolute true nature of oneself , or Existence as Is in Itself.
You take good care of yourself!
@@joajoajb Bro it's alright chill. Instead of an essay just say Godhead or UNMANIFEST.
Rupert and Maharaj tell same thing.
We are eternal being, no beginning no end, cool.
@@Alex722 When there's no honesty, it's really not that alright.
Rupert's religious ideology does more subtle damages than most are aware of.
Rupert quotes anyone and anything out of context, as long as it promotes his ideology, his books and retreats.
Rupert often quotes religious texts to validate his religious view on Existence. Using the story of the man moses ,to validate his view on Reality. Quoting a man hearing God's voices from a burning bush? A man claiming to have seen God writing some laws on stones? The chances are the man was most likely suffering from a psychosis.
Why in the world, would anyone in their right mind, seeking Truth, would refer to a made up story by a man suffering from a psychosis, to validate one's view on Reality?
Unless, you're so lost in a religious ideology, mistaking it for something, it can never be. Many are not really aware, what is really being said, being promoted and being instilled.
There's no room for honesty, when it comes to a religious ideology. It always bets on the ignorance of many for the win.
You take good care of yourself!
@@joajoajbdo you have content recommendations besides the books about maharaj?
@@raissa81 It's all actually quite simple. Nothing to market. Nothing to sell.
The hard part is getting one to see one's own ignorance.
Getting one to see one's own ignorance, which is deceiving oneself, has always been much harder than, revealing the Truth of Existence Itself.
I've had numerous obes when I was very little. Just happened by itself. Evoking intense curiosities about life and everything. Too young, too little to understand or analyze.
I began my first all-in meditation into the nature of Existence Itself, when I was in college. That was almost 30 years ago.
All sufferings are due to experiencing. Due to tasting Existence. Due to knowing or having knowledge.
The one claiming to experience or know the coffee cup is suffering. But, the coffee cup itself cannot know experience, thus, suffering is out of the question.
99.99% percent of the Universe is represented as non-biological like the coffee cup ,while 0.1% (probably less) is represented as biological beings which are always associated with survival and sufferings. Which is a split phenomenon that gives rise to experience.
0.1% representing a split to bring experience, can only seek for more experience for fulfillment. Often, calling a subtle experience as a non objective experience to hold on to experience, in fear of one's own disappearance.
It simply means, the phenomenon called life has happened to experience the coffee cup, rather than being the coffee cup itself.
We want to experience, but, we don't want to BE.
We want to taste, But, we don't want to BE.
Knowing ,having knowledge , a taste, or an experience of Existence is not the same thing as to BE EXISTENCE ITSELF.
What if you understood yourself really as a non biological Existence?.
Prior to the split to give rise to experience ? What if that's your true Nature? What would that do to your mind, your knowing, your consciouness? Hard to imagine for sure.
That is the true meaning of letting everything go, back into the Unknown. Prior to experience.
In this ultimate understanding, all experience, all knowledge, all tastes are only ignorance, deceiving oneself into the ever desiring bondage of experience.
It is most likely that life and its survival mechanism can only function on self ignorance and self deception.
In this ultimate understanding, anyone marketing and selling an experience, a self knowledge or a self taste is only perpetuating self ignorance and self deception in fear of losing experiencing.
Without self ignorance and self deception, no experience can arise, let alone sufferings.
It's not a self experience, although approximate subtle experiences can be there, imitating a deeper death.
It's an understanding. Like an insight into the Nature of Existence as Is in Itself or the Truth of oneself.
You take good care of yourself!
Brilliant! Like a diamond……
It is crazy to me how he has just... totally updated what all the "saints, mystics, messengers, buddhas, friends-of-god" seem to have been trying to talk about and point towards regarding the human experience of reality.
This I think is the good baseline 50,000 foot perspective. Rupert is always good at not getting snarled up in the isms. He is reiterating "go back, go back, go back". This suggestion is neither supernatural nor materialistic, just go back, or as I like to say "Let go, let Dog".
Generous yet ruthless - just like God herself😊
❤🙏🕉☮
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How do we achieve this experience please tell us. Do you have a technique/ method. Thank you
😮😮'needing nothing' ❤❤
yes *💞
😇GVB ❤
Thank you Rupert for bringing clarity ❤, so grateful and humbled 🙏
So called reality is minds version of consciousness as being subject and objects . You are consciousness living a mind wake.
Woow, this is truly and pure Love
This is so good.
bee yourself as yourself without any thouth defined you , YOU as YOU present already exist already peace already....and everthing will be done automaticaly much much better then ego trying to do somthing to find somsing' to protect the ego....."I as I only I"
Shankaran’s Nirvana Shatakam comes to mind.
And JK
Autonomous and free and needing nothing
Rupert, didn’t you yourself meditate n chant mantra for 20?years before you arrived at the Yureka moment of yours. The present mind body complex is structured in a way that it ‘understands’ faster and easily by 1. Referential Way of teaching/learning, 2. By use of Props(books, mantras, meditation etc) 3. Sangat or association(like your retreats) 4. By a Validation process by Saints n Masters.
The Homo sapiens have a software and hardware which somehow needs a 12 years process to just graduate. No animal needs that long a period to know how to survive.
Hence, the Direct path method while being the most clear, precise and incisive may not immediately be processed by our software and hardware.
Our knowing is the only teacher we need. Yet a Spira is needed. Thanks
If you are a little aware and silent, you would start to know the futility of any practice
@@enlightenmator If you are a little aware and silent, you would start to know . . . how condescending you are.
@@QED_Thats my mind.. Not me
Gap between breath or words are of greater significance in any practice. Direct doorway to being..
That's what it's all about. In whatever way life has turned out like, it doesn't matter.. "feel yourself autonomous and free, needing nothing".
Problem is he has people hanging on his every word. He goes into elaborate explanations to explain things instead of leaving them to do the work. Good intentioned maybe but because he is teaching people he doesn't know, especially via UA-cam, he doesn't seem to realise he can be part of the problem he is talking about. A spiritual guide knows when to retreat and not answer questions, but that involves knowing the person you are guiding.
Why is there a problem? If we're where we're meant to be at all times experiencing a dream like state I don't see what can constitute a problem?
You are caught up in limitations, labelling. Let it all go. Anything that carries a message, a pointing, is a teacher. He is manifesting truth through the noise and not asking for anything other than for us to do it. No devotion or prayer, nothing. Just to be. Very life is the greatest teacher.
Trouble is Rupert, you are a teacher, so which side are you on?
People need a teacher to teach them to get off the coach at the beach. They need a teacher til they realise they don’t need one. I am a spiritual teacher also and I am only there until people realise they don’t need me. I even state that on my website.
The last thorn to remove the thorns.
The true teacher is a mirror where you can witness the Real within you. All of the “traditions” teach this.
I'm not a meditation teacher, but a language one. I do draw a little plan for them to start learning on their own and let them go whenever they ask. I know they're perfectly capable to do so. If I don't have students anymore, there are still plenty of things for me to do. All is well.
A teacher, a husband, a father.. So many roles for one being
Language hinders creativity because it concludes that a form is only what it has named it to be, so the authority of language prevents you from being able to reimagine what a thing is and what it can be used for. In the case of zen, the authority of language prevents you from seeing that there are no things in reality. setting aside the authority of language is 'beginner's mind'.
Beautiful
Lol right. That's why my reflections don't hit the ground much, I ponder a word definition and meaning to start with and then it's time for dinner. I see people wanting to engage and throw sentences here and there and I'm like wait, we haven't set a common ground for what does that word even mean 😅
Beautiful ❤️
yes, knowledge will not free individual from concepts of beliefs that is his identity.
How do we then know who or what we are to do?
You don't know. You have to find out by trial and error . . . and luck.
@@QED_ Have been noticing that
I can only ask, what purpose do your prescriptive videos serve if the intention is not to teach others? Can you explain why you have previously mentioned 'the teachings', I assume you mean Vedanta and then provided insight into their meanings?
The thoughts of a contrarian.
Yet, another teacher....
Yes but what a teacher!!!
The last thorn to remove the thorns.
I struggled with the thought, the constant question 'who am I'm that acim asks sbd asks. Finally one evening, mind wouldn't leave me alone....so out of frustration, I threw my hands up in the air and said, 'i am me! For Christs sake. That's all I got.' and eureka...but I thought can that really me it? One more checking in and the answer was a resounding Yes.
And You are You.
And as the course says, you are Christ, we are all Christ, became Christ is symoñymous with Me. You don't turn into something else. This is it.
I am Me. I am Christ dreaming, but mayb😊e....❤😂
I've been at this for at least 25 years.
Part of my understanding has been that if we are all one, then the concept 'you' or 'other' is false. We all refer to ourself as Me although the mind may also refer to Me as You.
In my dream, or illusion, since I am sleeping and dreaming my own 'false world', just like in a nighttime dream, I am the only one here, here as in Me. Here and now. And all that I experiences and 'see', just like Jung's idea of dreams, ever
Everything I see reflects and is part of Me.
Thank you for posting these comments.
Instead of 'became,'..... always have been. Does one become who they already are?
The fairy tales are a demonstration of compassion and shouldn't be done away with. Just like a parent will not break his child's heart by telling him that Santa Claus doesn't exist, the child naturally throughout the years will let it go and realize it was just pretending, but cherishes the good feelings he had believing the fairy tale, and will teach it to his kids, knowing that they will enjoy it and grow out of it. A ruthless parent would just tell the children, it is all fake, you don't get to have all the fun and excitement. Adults don't need the fairy tales.
I am interested in Kriya yoga don,t know much yet and my serious question to anyone that may know is, Is it helpful and compatable with the above ?or would Rupert say the same as he does here of Tibetan buddism etc thanks for any help ❤.
See Douglas Harding
@@FirstPersonHoodthank you.
Yeah... So true healing in most authentic form seems to be super boring and all that farce like religion and etc are just mind chatter.
As soon as someone claims his or her path is superior to any other way, he or she has lost me... (especially if this "modern way" is claimed to be so easy that you are invited to visit retreats for thousands of bucks to get that there isn't even a way). Of course it is always the case that after you crossed that bridge you notice that there was never a bridge and never someone to cross it on the first hand - but then every railing across that imaginary bridge is as good as any other.
The money bothers me too. Imagine Jesus charging and he was poor, Rupert is not. Also this so called direct path seems to involve some very convoluted explanations. He appeals to the educated, but where are the simple people? Ironic he likes Brother Lawrence who was content with such a simple life and simple approach.
I do believe that Rupert is being disingenuous here. He himself spent more than 15 years and went to several teachers in search of "TRUTH". Now he is saying that a Teacher is not needed. Yes, truth is simple and may not require extensive study of scriptures. But unless you are Ramana Maharshi, almost all will need a Teacher to point out the metaphysical "ignorance" that "nature" ordains on all beings. It is natural and a law of manifestation and until it is pointed out by a teacher, an "individual" will be unable to shed his "individuality' which is the ultimate goal (if it is to be called that) of the teachings of nonduality. Only after we cognize the truth and shed our "individuality", we find that there is neither a seeker nor a teacher in the ultimate absolute "knowledge"!!!! But a Teacher is a must until one "reaches" that understanding. If Rupert believes truly in his heart that a teacher is not needed, why is he holding retreats all over the world?
Yeah, it does take the search of truth to get there. It really is a long path.
I am not ramana and i have no teacher. I just am.
@@multi_misa72 Yes, my friend. As long as you "know" what the "I" truly represents, you are ok and you may not need a teacher. If you think that the "I" represents the name and form of the body of multi-misa72, then you certainly need a teacher.
@@ravindramurthy3486 It's much more than that. Spira was BORN into a spiritual group (that his parents were members of) . . .
Jiddu Krishnmurti said the exact same thing. He had teachers and a ready-made following. He said it was a path-less path and a choice-less choice.
If you have something to market and sell, you have to be quite good at telling people what they want to hear.
In that sense, Rupert is quite good at telling people what they want to hear.
Rupert shows exactly why religions and their ideologies have always been the biggest sell for humanity.
Selling the idea of a deity with only good qualities and a promise of heaven were enough to hit the jackpot in the psyche of humanity living in fear and ignorance.
Always betting on the ignorance of humanity for the win.
An all good and all loving deity God and the promise of heaven were an irresistible offer for the humanity living in fear from not understanding how Nature functions.
A consciouness that is all peace, all happiness and all fulfilled is an irresistible offer.
Isn't that what we want to hear? So, the supply meets the demand.
It is no wonder that more than half of the world's population lives with a belief ,believing in a literal existence of the devil as the one responsible for all the bad and the ugly, while the deity God is only worthy of praise and worship.
It's no wonder why all the followers of Rupert's ideology, going around blaming imaginary entities such as mind and finite mind for all the sufferings ,while consciouness is praised for having only the beautiful, desirable qualities. Love, happiness, peace, beauty, all fulfilled...etc. Never the baddies. Baddies?
A consciouness with dark ugly qualities? No! Never! Why? Because, that will be the end of self deception. Have to keep the game going.
Even the noblest, most beautiful intentions are used to deceive oneself.
Clever ones produce more ear candies.
But, Is Existence as Is in Itself like that?
Self deception always wins in a world of ignorance. It always has. Always betting on the ignorance for the win.
One can never be too careful, nor , be contemplative enough, when it concerns the Absolute True Nature of oneself or Existence as Is in Itself.
You must do your homework. Rupert has spoken on your concerns.
@@FirstPersonHood I'm afraid you're completely missing the point without realizing what is really being said and being instilled.
Not just you, it's always, almost everyone that follows religious ideologies.
Rupert's model of Reality is a religious ideology model.
Rupert's view on Existence is a religious view. It comes from and rooted in the old religious ideology and beliefs.
In religion, the deity God is always preconceived as having only the desirable and wishful qualities. Such as all good and all loving...etc.
All the bad and the ugly are dumped onto an imaginary entity, the devil to account for all the sufferings. That is Duality.
Prasing one while blaming another is only possible if the deity and the devil have their own existence, completely independent of each other. Only then, prasing one and blaming the other becomes possible.
Under Rupert's religious ideology, the all good and all loving deity God of religion becomes an all peace and all happiness consciousness, and the devil becomes the mind and the finite mind.
The rest of the doctrine remains the same with a slight makeover in words and labels.
Rupert has been claiming from day one, that, consciouness is never responsible for the sufferings. All blames went to nonexistent, imaginary entities such as mind, finite mind, belief in separate self, world cultures...etc.
In religion, you cannot hold the deity responsible or accountable, because, that goes against their preconceived notions of their deity. How could an all loving deity bring sufferings? Right? Thus, the invention of another imaginary entity, the Devil to account for the sufferings.
For the same reason, Rupert blames nonexistent, imaginary entities while claiming that consciouness is never responsible for the sufferings. This is a belief in duality. You follow?
Consciouness only means, exactly what it says. Consciouness only.
Consciouness Alone is responsible for all the sufferings with none other. It is consciouness Alone that deceives Itself with none other.
All the bad and the ugly are carried out by none other than consciouness and consciouness Alone. No devil, No mind, No finite mind to ever speak of.
There have never been any devil, any mind, any finite mind anytime, anywhere, to do or undo anything other than consciouness and consciouness Alone.
The only One there to do or undo, to deceive or undeceive itself, is consciouness Alone with None other to speak of. You follow?
Consciouness only means, consciouness Alone is responsible for all there is.
The good, the bad and the ugly.The whole package with none other to speak of, other than consciouness Alone. Understand?
Self deception often comes with ear candies, pleasing the ear, like a sweet poem, only to deceive oneself, others and Existence Itself.
Having false notions of a deity or consciouness is how most self deceptions begin.
Existence is not like that.
You take good care of yourself!
God is Only Good and He does Only Good. And devils and demons exists LOL.
Check your facts :)
@@FirstPersonHood I may be wasting my time and effort, in pointing out why a religious ideology such as the one, preached by Rupert is not and cannot be the case for the nature of Existence, especially to a religious group, who seem very unaware and clueless on what self deception is, how it forms.
A preacher shouts to the congregation. " people watch out , the devil is out there to deceive God's children". A preacher, people, the devil, God, God's children. A whole lot of entities doing their own things. A belief in many entities, many Realities, all doing their own things. I'm sure, you're aware of the silliness in this case.
Rupert tells his followers to watch out, on how the mind tricks consciouness.
He's been claiming and preaching that it is the mind that mimicks the presence of consciouness. You see it yet? Should I continue?
How can there be any mind to mimick the presence of consciouness, when the mind itself is nothing more than the activity of consciousness Alone? You follow?
The only One there to deceive Itself to begin with, is none other than consciouness and consciouness Alone.
There is no mind as such anywhere, anytime to mimick anything. The only One there, doing it to itself would be consciouness Alone. You follow?
Then, why did Rupert accuse a nonexistent, imaginary entity as the one, deceiving the presence of consciouness?
He did it for the same reason, the preacher did. Accusing a nonexistent, imaginary entity the devil. Why? Very simple. To protect the false notions and the beliefs about Reality.
That's how all religious ideologies have managed, not only to survive but, thrive. Because, it is the ignorance and dishonesty, only on which, they can thrive.
It has always been betting on the ignorance for the win. Proven to be a winning formula throughout history. And, It continues.
The thousand concessions, the thousand contortions, the thousand distortions and the thousand twists are all necessary for the winning formula to perpetuate self deception.
Religions and religious ideologies have successfully managed to have the majority of humanity to believe and accept their claims.
Is it because, they were telling the Truth on the nature of Existence Itself? Of course not! Far from it. Nothing to do with the Truth of Existence Itself.
Self deception always wins when ignorance is being serviced. It has always been like that throughout history. And, it is like that, on this very day.
One can never be too careful, nor be contemplative enough,when it comes to understanding one's true nature or Existence as Is in Itself.
You take good care of yourself!
@@joajoajb thanks
Is Rupert himself not a teacher?..
"be free of all teachers..."
alright Rupert I unsubscribe :D
if you remove everything from your mind you lose a lot of information
🤔we need simple loving human beings , no complex definitions
Just a common sense to live in society as human beings 🤭
One doesn’t need to do any sort of spiritual gymnastics to be aware one is …. consciousness 💕 Beware of the snake oil salesman.
You are ALL positive all the time, but if all is one it follows that one is suffering all painful deaths and tortures. Do you know how terrible is that and what ppl did to each other since 2.6M years of our evolution, not even counting animal suffering. That is unimaginable amount of suffering to go through for one!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am is not later .
Double edged sword we need language to understand ourselves. Without it we are animals with no conscious Awarness that we are animals.
The point is not to devolve but to _evolve_ beyond the limitations of language.
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I totally understand that using the meta model, clean language etc you can purify language. Thus use it better as a tool for our true self. But we still need language. After all this basic dialogue would not happen without it.
@@alanfrancis9225Ofcourse we need language but not so much for recognizing our being, that only requires awareness.
@@youssefalaoui4286
I agree but we have become conscious through the use of language. It’s has been a necessary “consciousness tool” so we could become aware of our consciousness. Without this evolutionary process unaware animals we would still be.
Awarness in my way of thinking is consciousness becoming aware of itself. No one knows what consciousness is, although many tell us they know ???. Another question is if our awareness ( observer, witness) is really our ultimate self who or what is observing that to make us aware of it.
From my experience we have evolved to use Awarness to create unconscious skills beliefs ( good or bad) to survive and thrive. Thereby putting automatic processes into the so called unconscious. We are generally not aware of these processes. But they are a major part of peoples lives. Saying I am aware is great but are they really aware. If we were truly aware of all we would have a breakdown. As so much of us is unconscious.
Animals are not unaware, they are not aware of there awareness. I agree with everything else.
Non-dual God is not conscious but conciousness(blank conciousness,void ego, mindless&thoughtless observer in present) itself or the process of particles that bring the sense of being in the brain....
This philosophy can't answer how this non-dual God creates anything if he has no will and other than he follows a predefined set of laws unknowingly...
That provides a probability that something created even him..
Brahman=Brahmand(Universe)
Non dual God is not infinite since he is blank conciousness or existence(or universe)... And for him there is no mind no knowledge and no past future... But in order to dream one need prior knowledge of something.... How can one imagine or dream an object which he has never seen or known before, when nothing existed... Only one argument could work that brahman(non dual god) is matter which follows physical laws already set to create things unknowingly... This opens a probability of an existence greater than him...
God can't be separate from his knowledge as our existence or the sense of I and you re too result of our being and our minds....
We as finite minds should not trust our minds completely.... To not fall in self deception... And think it only a useful enough tool to live.
The mind may be an illusion for humans becs thought/ knowledge/assumptions of past and future does not exist except in the mind... But not for God becs he is time himself so for him everything is reality... And not illusion and he knows all...
I am no one nowhere doing nothing
I love you and I hate you are spoken by the same non-dual Being. This Being is obscured by the dual interpretation of the mind.
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