What is meant by 'Non-Meditation'?
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- Опубліковано 6 чер 2024
- A man wants to know if, before we can do ‘non-meditation’, we need to discipline and purify our minds through years of objective meditation practice.
Rupert says: ‘The mind does not need to be purified through discipline, because it is already pure. Simply ask yourself a question such as, “Who am I really?” or “What is it that is essential to me?” It’s not the verbal answer that’s important but that you go to your self and stay there. To begin with, your old habit of paying exclusive attention to the content of experience will pull you out of your self again. When you notice that, just ask the question and come back to your self again.
‘Every time you do that, you weaken the power that objective experience has to take you away from your self, and you begin to find you’re established in your true nature of peace. There’s no longer a conflict between giving your attention to the world and being your self. It took me thirty or forty years, but just because I’m a very slow developer. It needn’t take that long. I’ve now condensed those forty years down. And two or three days should be plenty.’
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Timestamps:
0:00 Discipline in Meditation
1:04 Non-Meditation
2:43 Should the Mind Be Purified?
4:49 Self-Enquiry
6:17 Sat Chit Ananda
8:27 Practicing Non-Meditation
11:02 Self-Abidance
12:21 We Are Always Our Self
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❤ “No matter how dark the movie, the screen is transparent” ❤
What a beautiful question. The mind is not separate from ourselves and should not be minimised or attempted to be destroyed. It should be understood though, for what it is. The mind is just knowledge, active in relevance. Without the need for that knowledge there is no need for the mind. YOU ARE THERE, but the mind is not.
Now, the mind does give a template for navigating this world, so its very normal that during the awakening journey people reshape and sharpen the mind.
It's not necessary for progress, but a logical and natural reforming so to speak of the neuro pathways in congruence with new found insight into reality.
In spiritual practice though, the mind is not. It comes in later in relevance to "explain" what happened. 💚
well said, today i went out by the lake and i saw all these bubbles. for some reason i had this moment, where all thinking suddenly dissipated and felt part of the river. It was absolutely surreal, I no longer felt the rock i was standing on and i didn't freak out or think i would fall into the river. I have no clue what happened, everything just went quiet, all senses went out the door and i was just there staring at the river. When i regained my sense of 'standing' on a rock, right on the river, with all the little flies everywhere lol the birds etc. i was there for almost an hour. Again, what on earth happened?
All of that boils down to the last four words “We’re never not home. ❤
@ 9:00 you don't have to stop your mind, just go to yourself. I am, I am present, I am aware and I am peace.
Love you Rupert ❤, you are the exact qualities of Awareness -Spontaneous, love , simplicity , present , compassionate,,
Rupert, if not for those fourty years, you would not be the teacher that we look up to. Everything leads up to this moment. No errors.
Beautiful ❤ I'm experiencing the deepest depression and grief at the moment.
This message brought me peace.
I'd forgotten.
peace and love ❤
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Please listen to Michael Singer as well. There’s also a recent page featuring his current talks call seatofcontemplation His messages are life changing for the best. I promise
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That's awesome. Go.go.go
I think that, in most cases, it is not true that someone can recognize the presence of awareness in two days. It takes time and practice as taught in most traditions.
Contemplation, the recognition of presence or I am, is not that easy and usually ( as in the case of Rupert) takes some years.
Nondual teachers usually don't recognize this fact. Probably because they overestimate their own power as teachers and also because telling someone that has to wait and work for the prize is not that sellable.
If you are a student and feel you are not able to recognize the presence of being don't think you are failing. Keep working in meditation or inquiry and gradually, in time, you will recognize the presence of being in a natural way.
Ive come to experience that practice helps but not in the way we might think. It is more about unlearning and letting go than adding on a new skill or developing a new ability. Awareness is prior to all functions of small mind. Experiencing being is about being free of all that is inessential that we have become so entrenched in. Some people find it easy to let go, for some it is more gradual. But giving yourself permission to be free and letting yourself know that there is no skill to be practiced, rather you have to do nothing and be nothing, is quite helpful
It’s as A Course In Miracles says, “the miracle is not enough.“ Sure, seeing the truth on your own (miracle) is a requirement for correction, but letting go of your stinking thinking and habits of ego will take some time. That vigilant letting go of the false is what “forgiveness” is in ACIM.
Then, after years of weakening the ego habit and really living freedom, it also appears to me anyone could do it in minutes.
But not me, and I’ve not seen such sudden completion in my 30 years on the path.
My next step is to stop looking at UA-cam comments. 🙄
Smartly Rupertly as always.
Stripping away all mental formulation, just abiding as experiencing.
It's not only that the early practices develop discrimination. It is included that those practices promote inner healing. An ego caught by destructive compulsions cannot always free itself easily. A first step is self awareness; awareness of how we sabotage ourselves w limiting egoic compulsions. A second step can be releasing the compulsions. Many of us need these steps to arrive at nondual consciousness.
Thank you so much Rupert Sir & the Questioner for this profound discussion
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Rupert what u said in reply to this man, brought tears to my eyes so many times. U r such a humble and loving being. ❤
So thankful that we can listen to u and that you are here to show us where to look. ❤
I really appreciate/like the movie screen analogy.❤
Great question & answer. Enjoyed this one
Beautifully explained. Thank you! 🙏
Ignore the thoughts like you would ignore the sensation in your toe.
Hello mister,
I saw your video where you are explaining sence of time, and oh boy that was the deepest mind blown i ecer experienced...
Just wanted to comment this and will watch you other videos... Another favourite person😅
Thanks for sharing this. 🙏🎯♥😶☮💘🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯
Thank you, Rupert Spira...!
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Thank you!
Thank you 🙏🏻
Thank you 💙
Powerful and profound, grateful to Rupert for sharing. 🙏
How Beautiful and simple
For me the real difficulty is after one has been aware that one is not one's thoughts experiences, perceptions, feelings, etc..(i really like Donald Hoffman's expression of headset),but the knower of all these,to deal in everyday life with all these people one is interacting with, who they are embedded in duality believing they are their life story,that they are separate entities,struggling with unfulfilled desires,hurt egos, fears ,ambitions, guilt , proud etc
Of course it is needed one to be compassionate,but truly speaking,i am sorry to say this , it is really boring.This is how one becomes a solitary person..
I hear you. How's your heart feeling?
الإيقو يسأل نفسه ماذا أستفيد من هذا الإدراك 😅 الأنا الأنانيه الوهميه اعتادت البحث عن مردود يغذيها لن تحصل على شيء مميز اذا أدركت ذاتك انت ذاتك مسبقا 😅الإيقو لايعجبه ذلك يود الحصول على حصته من التفرد 😅انت فراغ انت لاشي هذا عذاب للإيقو 😂 إعادة ضبط المصنع مسح جميع البرامج و العوده للأصل هذا يعني مسح جميع تطبيقات الالعاب التي تسلي الإيقو وهذا ممل جدا 😂 لذلك استمتع بألعاب الإيقو واذا مللت من اللعب عد الى ذاتك ستجدها بإنتظارك انها هنا دائما تراقبك وانت تلعب 😂
@@spaceforthesoul6286 Thanks for replying..
My heart is feeling a gentle,kind, detachment from everything and everyone.Yet i partake in the worldly event as an actor in a theatrical play,with attention,dedication and an open heart.
This statement of Dr Donald Hoffman had an appeal of a great relief in me:
"what we call spacetime in the world is just one movie that the screen of Consciousness can play. You are that infinitely potential screen that could play trillions upon trillions of different movies this is just one..we are wrapped up in this one movie. we have identified ourselves with particular object in that particular movie and the whole spiritual move is to say no, no,you are not this little object in this little movie you are the infinite potential ,the screen that could do any movie ...infinitely many movies.."ॐ ❤ 🙏
@@spaceforthesoul6286 Thanks for replying..
My heart is feeling a gentle,kind, detachment from everything and everyone.Yet i partake in the worldly event as an actor in a theatrical play,with attention,dedication and an open heart.
This statement of Dr Donald Hoffman had an appeal of a great relief in me:
"what we call spacetime in the world is just one movie that the screen of Consciousness can play. You are that infinitely potential screen that could play trillions upon trillions of different movies this is just one..we are wrapped up in this one movie. we have identified ourselves with particular object in that particular movie and the whole spiritual move is to say no, no,you are not this little object in this little movie you are the infinite potential ,the screen that could do any movie ...infinitely many movies.."ॐ
When using words to describe the ineffable, the experience described becomes a concept. When I say I am, and I know that I am, that is a thought. The dreaded " I " thought as described by Ramana Maharshi. My question is: Can one merely think he is present?, and by doing so, be one step behind, or ahead of the experience? I guess what am pondering is: Can one actually experience presence? Or is one just dwelling in a thought about presence?
@awakenotwoke7949
There is no difference between the thought and the present. The thought _is_ the present.
The jewel and wave are form, there nature is gold and ocean. The thought is form, its nature is presence.
@NotSoGullible This is exactly my question. One's"own" presence has hijacked Presence and claims "I" am present. There is no one present. There is only ( Divine) Presence.
God is the Most Great, all praise and glory belongs to Him, none has the right to be worshipped except God.
God IS. God is I AM. Two similar things.
God is Real. Actual. Exists. is Truth.
God is consciousness.
You are not. God Alone IS.
Being present is boring, imagine being present in a scoopy doo movie.
I say...
Be interesting.
You need to be interesting :)
@@Aed-Weed Thanks for your comment. Some questions: You are personalizing God. Is that your experience? When you say God needs to be worshipped, how does that activity manifest itself? Yes, being present IS boring, that's why most people avoid it, even when they claim to be trying to abide in it. It can also trigger anxiety, because it is unknown, unpredictable, uncertain, and usually refuses to comply with concepts you have in mind that automatically compare it to One needs to be interesting. Interesting to whom, and why?
@@awakenotwoke7949 God is a Person. God is I Am.
Worship and prostrate down to God.
Not a need.
A Must.
Awakening happened to Romana Marharshi in an instant
Why they always answer the way Rupert wants to hear it?
@evglenka 1. No need to be troubled by anyone presenting a model of Reality.
Rupert's model is a religious model. It's a religious view on Existence.
It's a religious ideology and has its roots in the old religious beliefs and the traditions.
If anyone gave answers that Rupert disagrees with, or answers that Rupert is not expecting, then, Rupert will keep throwing suggestions, ques,facial expressions and hints, to let the person know, that, it is not the answer, that, he wants to hear.
Until, the person catches on the hints and the facial expressions and gives an answer . An answer that Rupert wants to hear.
It's like a ritual ,where the answers are already decided and prepared by Rupert. Rejecting all other possibilities.
Rupert has a strong tendency to play " teacher " over anyone and everyone.
Giving out the impression, that. He won't hesitate to play teacher, even preaching to the Buddha, if the Buddha somehow happened to be in the audience asking questions.
He's not really aware of his own tendencies in this regard.
Hard to imagine Rupert, starting a dialog with something like "I really don't know ", and, I could certainly be wrong, but, I can try my best to answer based on my own experience and my own interpretations". Or, something to that effect.
It might not help Rupert, sell more books and sell more tickets to the retreats, but, it will certainly make him look far more honest and credible.
One can never be too careful, or ever be contemplative enough, when it concerns the Truth of one's own nature or Existence as Is in Itself.
You take good care of yourself!
This teaching has an aspect of spiritual bypassing. This gentlemen is experiencing the multifariousness of the psyche, the many strands and parts of mind that struggle to have access to Self and this work of getting to know these many burdened parts of psyche is indeed a long and complex path and it can be very invalidating to hear that all is needed is to recognise the fundamental self/ground of being. This can however strand the many parts of psyche without access to self. I think this gentleman would benefit from exploring Internal Family Systems.
Rupert will be great for james bond character
If you are serious about Heart remembrance look into the teachings of Avatar Adi Da Samraj
Ah... "to abide there, to live there..." Just that. Every effort, all life, just to be able do that.
Just do it!
@@EinfachNurTyp Yes!!
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Simple pointing 🫡❤️
Rupert is an ol’ English institutional boys school teacher
But what is prompting all the questions to mind.
This would mean you are separate from yourself and your being. ie Being being your physical body and brain that was BORN and Yourself the " I am" the " Real Presence" that was FORMED initially before your Being was Born.
quote; " who am I really" cannot be the mind asking that question because the mind is a non physical and cannot store nor delete information. That would mean the mind is just a tool of service that was implemented from that that was FORMED to send and receive information from the FORM to the Physical Brain.
So " I am, I am present, I am at peace". So what is asking yourself. It cant be two lets say entities within otherwise there would be turmoil, inner turmoil, which there is not.
The problem is here that, quote; "OBJECTIVE EXPERIENCE has" is being used as a power that is coming from nowhere and from nothing, in fact Objective experience should not even exist, why?, because Objective requires a physical source for Objectiveness to derive from. Objective cannot derive from thin air nor a belief. This is a major problem with Teachers/Guru's and in this case, just a Speaker who does not have a clue how that that was initially FORMED derived and give rise to the Intelligent Species.
That that initially FORMED wants to be aware of its worldly surrounds for the purpose of survival and evolving its physical body and brain host, like its has been doing for aeons. It is not your choice to go back into yourself, it is the prompting from the FORM choice.
2:33 Rupert starts
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انت بحاجه للوقت لتدرك انك لم تكن تحتاج للوقت 😅
السلام عليكم وما هو رايك عن روبرت سبيرا؟
@@MrResearcher122 روبرت معلم يعلمنا اننا لسنا بحاجه لمعلم 😅
Thank you😊
It's not special. Nobody is special. The universe is not waiting for you to do anything. We are dreaming. Read smart. Work hard. Bring love to your environment. Love is All untangling everything else. Enjoy the movies
While you're making this lovely comment, promoting a religious ideology, just remember, that, countless life forms are screaming in pain at this very moment, and every moment, from being, torn, and eaten alive.
A woman was forced to watch her young daughter, being brutally raped and executed by the invading soldiers. Followed by the execution of her husband and her two sons.
The woman lost her mind and, threw herself over a bridge and committed suicide. She did ask one question, before ending her life. The question was, WHY?
Aren't we just glad, that it's not us, or our loved ones that are being eaten alive and being executed?
Aren't we lucky, that we can giggle, smile and talk about how our true nature is all so loving, all so peaceful and All so fulfilled on a full belly?
We've always been good at kidding ourselves ,haven't we?
The woman asked Why? What do you tell her? What would you say?
Would you say to her ,that, her true nature is really all love, all peace, all happiness and all fulfilled ,but, somehow ,her true nature has decided to exchange all happiness and all fulfillment for this madness?
From which it has absolutely nothing to gain from? Really? That would be killing her twice. It would be better to keep our mouth shut than to deceive ourselves and others.
Existence is not like that and cannot be like that.
We can never really be too careful, or ever be contemplative enough, when it comes to understanding Existence as Is in Itself.
You take good care of yourself!
It‘s a privilege for shure to be able to investigate in the nature of concioussness. But as I see it, the situation you are describing is a result of human madness. Of false beliefs in seperation of an ego, which needs an enemy which can be fought to feel more important and more complete and so on. If humanity, and therefore some need to start, is not going beyond this conditioning of the mind, we will not survive as a species…
@joajoajb I would not at that point in time try to explain to this woman any reason behind the evil she was subjected to.
The low conscious primitive spirit of the aggressor has no doubt been subject to pure hate ideology. This ideology has been weapoized by the ruling unlit and the anti truth anti God agenda of its' greed and fear fueled unintelligent leadership.
God gave man dominion over the beast within himself.
Maybe We discern this false loveless lie of evil doing towards negative polarisation.
Maybe We must first witness the ultimate sorrow of true hell in order to become one with true heaven hereafter
Just wanted to let you know that your comment left me speechless
@@joajoajbWhat is to be done with an Impassive Existence, utterly unconcerned with any of its contents?
Fuckin ask the question already
Your reflexive assumption about what he was going to say after "I've heard" is faulty. You presumed to finish his sentence. "I've heard." See?
Rupert was perfectly correct - what
I’ve heard or seen’ is not to who I am
@@RobBegg Unfortunately, neither you or Rupert know what was to follow 'I've heard.' In fact, I've heard can be deeply personal and fully related to who one is. It can be poetic. It can be spiritual. It can have all sorts of meanings. Interrupting someone who has been asked to speak is never the right approach in any field of endeavor, especially something as personal and important to a person as meditation or the awareness of self. One must allow someone to answer on their own terms, without interruption. Interruption is always an important sign of arrogance and should never be allowed to slip past any observer. This is of the utmost importance when presenting one's self as someone with something to teach. It is sometimes referred to as 'listening.' You listen to the person. Then you respond. You never ever ever ever interrupt. All this should really not need saying. It is abundantly obvious.
@@transmutology you’re entitled to your perspective but I’d suggest interrupting someone to spare them an unnecessary journey into the mind in the context of getting their answer comes from love and respect. I’d respectfully suggest the whole point is it’s not about personal at all; it’s about the individual and recognising we all share the same being.
@@RobBegg The problem with interrupting someone to spare them from something that you have decided they are doing is that you are making assumptions based upon a form of arrogance. You assume that you know what is best for this other person to say or not say. That is the definition of arrogance. Interruption is a tactic often used to unsettle a person. You can see in the video that the guy in the audience was somewhat embarrassed or at least unsettled by the interruption.
It’s extremely hard to argue in favor of someone interrupting a person who has just begun to speak. It’s an argument that really can’t prevail if logic is being used. The best thing is to avoid interrupting people when they are responding to something. An even better alternative is to cast a wary eye upon meditation and mindfulness ‘teachers.’ There aren’t any teachers. Only students.
@@transmutology oh, I feel for you
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