4:36 and at when it cuts there it seems to have an editing issue where they have the starting thing ("in todays video") instead of just cutting, so a couple of issues
@@ThunderTheYellowJolteonyes, the 1060 had 6gb and is nearly 10 years old at this point, the reason game developers look unoptimised is because they developed their game with the assumption that everyone would be on 12-16 by now
@@AnEagle Okay, how much VRAM do we need? You need a PS5 in order to run AAA games properly. WITHOUT frame gen. And plus, I don't even play AAA games. I'd rather pay more for less VRAM than to play unoptimized realistic garbage, aka those stupid AAA games. I play Sonic and Indie games. ￣へ￣
Intel and AMD BOTH need to pay the man that's making ZLUDA. CUDA is single handedly the main reason why Nvidia dominates so much. Once they lose that advantage, and you can get CUDA support on AMD and Intel (i)gpu's it's over for Nvidia in the Inferencing space (LLM). Considering you can get an A770 with 16gb for
When you are healing from your snip, no matter how good you feel, don't do anything for 3 days, don't lift anything, don't walk too far. Wake up feeling great and full of energy, sit down and do nothing. I have so many stories of guys saying but I felt great, all I did was ............ then I felt a pull/pain......... the size of grapefruit.
Their GPUs are inefficient. I was on the market for GPU a few months ago and I was thinking of buying the Sapphire Nitro 7900XTX and holy that thing eats 400W of electricity. I went for a 4080 Super because of efficiency. AMD is also behind the market in terms of "technology" ala Frame Generation for example, when NVIDIA released it it was a big deal (still is), and AMD haven't really made a counterpart not until recently. To this day Ray Tracing is also still a problem for AMD GPUs.
@strider029 it's definitely a factor but I think inefficiency is the main factor as to why people don't choose other gpu manufacturers. Tbh I'm not a fan boy to any company but I think the primary reason is brand loyalty. Or it's definitely a bigger factor. In my opinion. Also is Ray tracing really that popular to anybody not in the high end market?
i bought a 6950xt that took a shit right after the warranty and now have a 7900xtx, plus a framework 16 with the gpu. plus a 5800x3d that graduated to a 7950x3d. ive spent like 5k not getting intel/nvidia. ive done my part and then some
4:25 I think you’re a bit off base saying intel’s charging too much for the B580. You say you’re drawing that. Conclusion from the fact that the a580 was a lower price, but that’s not a fair comparison. I get that it’s not a percent for percent increase, but a better comparison is the 4060, 7600, and A770/50 (all of those cards it beats btw) all of them are more expensive perform worse (in most cases). The b580 has asserted itself as a 1440p card, and having a good 1440p card for anything less than 250$ would be a steal. It feels like comparing a 3050 to a 4060.
here's the definition of a monopoly: the exclusive possession or control of the supply of or trade in a commodity or service. Do you think that Nvidia makes it harder for you to buy AMD or Intel GPU's or that they control the supply of all GPU's made?
@@SpeedySpeedBoy14 I would say so their high performance cards are priced stupid just because they cover whole market with them. I work in sp500 company and have experience with antimonopol shiat we got part of different company last year because they were monopol, employees portfolio customers etc. Just to clear up it wasnt free but we could buy it out and they were forced to sell. BTW china already opened antimonopol case on NVIDIA
@@SpeedySpeedBoy14they absolutely make it more difficult for partners to work with AMD, and do actively make it harder for you to switch to and amd GPU on a pre built at the OEM level. Nvidia is monopolistic, they just do it in the background
They literally have an active case for antitrust practices for paying people to not advertise AMD and threatening partners if they decide to work with AMD or Intel...they are actually under investigation by multiple agencies for these actions@@SpeedySpeedBoy14
Depends. The government really only gets involved if the monopolist starts using its dominant market position to employ unfair business practices to preserve its position and squash competition. If a company becomes a monopoly because all of its competitors just weren't as good, that's completely legal. That's kinda what happened with NVidia. They didn't necessarily cheat, they just make the best GPUs and everyone buys them.
No B580's in my country, but in one of germany biggest retailers , the cheapest B580 is 325eur and the cheapest 5600 e 268eur the 4060 is 299 so people will still buy the nvidia card because ...reasons
@@tuttocrafting Nvidia has drivers for linux now, i do not know how good they work because i have a AMD card at the moment,(rx6800XT i went for it because of vram 16Gb for the same price of the 3070 8gb at the time and i do not regret it) and i have ubunto on windows trough wsl 2.0 and also some docker containers
My advice to new investors: Buy good companies stocks and hold them as long as they are good companies. Just do this and ignore the forecasts and market views which are at best entertaining but completely useless.
The key to big returns is not big moving stocks. It's managing risk in relationship to reward. Having the correct size on and turning your edge as many times as necessary to reach your goal. That holds true from long term investing to day trading.
Why can't you get it through your skull that JPR data doesn't show gaming share. JPR data includes AI server AIB sales. Those GPUs can't game and Nvidia sells far more of those which cause the 90%. Thats not gaming share though, the gaming share has been around 40/60 AMD, Nvidia for over two years now.
Almost. I can't speak for retail stores but you could actually buy B580 cards online at MSRP since Wednesday (Dec 12th). By Thursday they were all sold out except for the stupidly priced Gunnir ones for $399 lol
Intel's pricing with the B580 gives it a good chance to actually make some inroads, since testing by several outlets has shown it beats the 4060 in multiple games by decent margins, is beaten by the 4060 in very few, and on average, looks to be about 15% to 20% faster than the 4060 while being cheaper. What is this 5060 you're speaking of? There are no Geforce 5K cards on the market yet. And AMD has made the mistake of focusssing on per card profit without offering good low end cards. Competing in the mid range isn't enough when you're far behind and losing ground. AMD used to know how to be aggressive. They're losing that.
As much as I think the 5050... I'm sorry, I mean 5060, will be DOA... you're absolutely correct that it will still sell and will outsell it's RDNA4 competition as well as the B580.
I don't think the new Nvidia 50xx series are going to be priced reasonably. I predict the 5060 will be over priced, and restricted by it's 8gb ram. I'm more excited to see what AMD has in store with its 8000 series. After 25 years of strictly Nvidia cards, I'm loving my Radeon 7600. ($175). Hoping for a decent upgrade for $200-400 upgrade next year. B580 is nice, but not enough of a performance boost to upgrade.
You've done your part to prevent population decline :) Take it very, very easy for a few days - you do NOT want a hematoma or popped stitch down there. A few bags of frozen peas might be a good idea, too.
So the supreme Court dropped the Nvidia case.. why am I not surprised at all.. I wonder how many of the pockets of the supreme Court justices got filled on this one
I think the B580 is gonna end up being the modern RX580. It's got serviceable performance for a reasonable price and a ton of vram and will get consistent driver updates. Those are really a lot of the reasons why people kept on buying the RX 580, not to mention price cuts. Intel can cut prices by the time the 5060 launches to remain competitive and the b580 will remain a popular pick for the savvy budget oriented buyer.
If Nvidia and AMD launch higher end first, and slowly get around to releasing their lower tier cards, the B580 might be the only sub $300 card for a while.
If I were Nvidia, I'd cut the dividends to shareholders, even though they're making money hand over fist on AI, and blame making provision for class action lawsuits. Then we'll see the shareholders really scream... 😈
I wouldn't be so sure about people buying the 5060 8gb. I'm sure they will, but depending on how quickly Intel polishes their drivers, and inevitable performance games it'll be tough to see.
10:45 this data is skewed because its the entire market and companies are buying in bulk because of AI from nvidia. but as a gamer and the gaming community really only cares about how many gpu's they are selling to this community which id fair to say is much lower
11:23 There is NO alternative to nvidia software. I'm sorry, that's the hard reality, DLSS and RT on Nvidia cards is way better than FSR and RT on AMD cards
I don't feel that it's any better than Intel's even though it is slightly theres no uptick in cost that can justify it. The value isn't there. Amd is making more money now and about to make a turn to hardware AI so I feel this comment won't go down well in history. Nvidia will do nvidia stuff or stuff anyone does at the top is coast and let competitors catch up not cause they want to. Look at this nvidia lawsuit could be the straw that breaks the camels back. Board members "where's our money? Oh it's like that then let's do some pruning"
@mattpulliam4494 There are tons of video comparison of dlss and fsr on nvidia and gpu cards out there, i suggest the ones from hardware unboxed, since they are a main gaming channel
I think if reviewers stopped saying NVIDIA's DLSS and Ray Tracing were massively superior (which of course is not true, better yes but not enough to matter for many) Maybe AMD and Intel would have a tiny bit more market share.
These pricetags are always giga confusing for EU. Since I presume those prices are before tax? That means EU-Prices include tax since its law and its always confusing. + EU mostly only gets partner cards. For us a b580 starts at 300€ to 320€ would be nice if that gets included somehow since its always confusing
VR/AR isn't gonna be a thing until its just a pair of glasses. Like those Rayban from Meta but they need to have full oled screens and a way to power them etc. I think people woukd accept a cord with a belt or poket device for now
Why don’t somebody go after Nvidia for over charging prices on RTX 4xxx while still being cut down. Nope. The 4090 isn’t going blow up or catch fire on you lol.
When I built my current system (Ryzen 5600 w/ RX6600).. I chose to stick with AMD for the GPU for mainly weak 'philosophical' reasons, rather than it being the best performance. I have been burned by NVIDIA in the past and felt it was time to get burned by AMD.
The B580 might make AMD and NVIDIA prices go down, so that is a win for every gamer, I'll buy a B580 when it arrives in my country, I would like to support Intel now that I know their products are worth it.
Normally, I'm the kind of person that believes in more competition equaling better products, however, with the android XR, it really kind of feels like they're just ripping off apples vision pro, and trying to emulate the ecosystem without actually emulating the ecosystem, and the design of it is really too close for my taste. I hope that's just an AI image of it, and that they actually have something cooler than that, because otherwise I could see Apple trying to sue them over.
@rhoharane how about for work load stuff, photo editing with luminar neo. My 3060 runs at 100% when I do certain processes and it takes a few min to process.
If anyone manages to make a b580 sff like what Gigabyte did for the RTX 4060, it would make this card an incredibly heavy hitter. AMD's most powerful equivalent is the 4 gig rx6400 sff!!!!!
AMD and Nvidia is not going to offer anything for $250 that comes with 12gb of ram. And they won't be as powerful as the b580, or its potential. The b580 will only continue to gain performance. No doubt.
@@RedLine0069naaah. Most people will still buy nvidia, but I think Arc market share can only increase from this point, and it will increase significantly
@@RedLine0069 Of course they will, but not as much. Every b580 sold, is one less terrible 3060 or 4060 sold. They are already sold out everywhere, that won't change. It's going to get better. And Intel will continue to increase performance even further with driver updates no doubt. How do you feel about that? :)
@@DaveTheeMan-wj2nkHonestly. The brand loyalty with nvidia is too strong. People really don't like change, they'll still bring up arguments, about efficiency and their needs and buy nvida, especially about dls
@@superloko9926 Yeah I don't think so. So far the current data says otherwise. Of course you'll still have those who will buy the dead on arival 8gb cards, but the b580 is sold out everywhere, day 1. It's that good. And intel is going to increase its performance with driver updates. Honestly it's quite wild when you think about it. By the end of a few driver updates over the next few months, the card might even see a 10-20% performance boost. I think games like dying light, and spiderman give a sight at just how powerful it really is when the drivers are really good for that game. We're talking 7700xt+ performance. Peopoe will still Buy Nvidia of course, but every b580 sold, is one less Nvidia sold.
0:00 Intro
00:46 B580 Launch
04:44 Passive 9950X
05:24 Android XR
07:53 UFD Deals
08:00 Nvidia's Supreme Court Shutdown
11:34 Comment Response
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14:10 Overshare
Mistakes in timestamps
4:36 and at when it cuts there it seems to have an editing issue where they have the starting thing ("in todays video") instead of just cutting, so a couple of issues
So many, lol
He without sin should do it then lol
5060 might be priced around $250. That's a good joke.
500 bucks, take it or piss off -Nvidia
And possibly still has 8GB VRAM... (according to latest leak)
@@sihamhamda47 Do we need more VRAM for unoptimized AAA garbage?
@@ThunderTheYellowJolteonyes, the 1060 had 6gb and is nearly 10 years old at this point, the reason game developers look unoptimised is because they developed their game with the assumption that everyone would be on 12-16 by now
@@AnEagle Okay, how much VRAM do we need?
You need a PS5 in order to run AAA games properly. WITHOUT frame gen.
And plus, I don't even play AAA games. I'd rather pay more for less VRAM than to play unoptimized realistic garbage, aka those stupid AAA games. I play Sonic and Indie games. ￣へ￣
We people, the consumers are in trouble with Nvidia's Prices
The consumers are paying Nvidia like it's free, they have only themselves to blame for the situation.
fr fr😔@@madant7777
easy solution don't buy Nvidia
@@kllrbeas Bingo. too many other options.
womp womp, don't buy nvidia
Intel and AMD BOTH need to pay the man that's making ZLUDA. CUDA is single handedly the main reason why Nvidia dominates so much. Once they lose that advantage, and you can get CUDA support on AMD and Intel (i)gpu's it's over for Nvidia in the Inferencing space (LLM). Considering you can get an A770 with 16gb for
When you are healing from your snip, no matter how good you feel, don't do anything for 3 days, don't lift anything, don't walk too far. Wake up feeling great and full of energy, sit down and do nothing. I have so many stories of guys saying but I felt great, all I did was ............ then I felt a pull/pain......... the size of grapefruit.
Why are people so scared of buying anything not nvidia as a gpu😢
Their GPUs are inefficient. I was on the market for GPU a few months ago and I was thinking of buying the Sapphire Nitro 7900XTX and holy that thing eats 400W of electricity. I went for a 4080 Super because of efficiency.
AMD is also behind the market in terms of "technology" ala Frame Generation for example, when NVIDIA released it it was a big deal (still is), and AMD haven't really made a counterpart not until recently. To this day Ray Tracing is also still a problem for AMD GPUs.
@@strider029 Well that's a lie I have a sapphire nitro 7900xtx and I run it on 850 watt power supply and have not had any issues with power.
Herd mentality
@strider029 it's definitely a factor but I think inefficiency is the main factor as to why people don't choose other gpu manufacturers. Tbh I'm not a fan boy to any company but I think the primary reason is brand loyalty. Or it's definitely a bigger factor. In my opinion. Also is Ray tracing really that popular to anybody not in the high end market?
i bought a 6950xt that took a shit right after the warranty and now have a 7900xtx, plus a framework 16 with the gpu. plus a 5800x3d that graduated to a 7950x3d.
ive spent like 5k not getting intel/nvidia. ive done my part and then some
4:25 I think you’re a bit off base saying intel’s charging too much for the B580. You say you’re drawing that. Conclusion from the fact that the a580 was a lower price, but that’s not a fair comparison. I get that it’s not a percent for percent increase, but a better comparison is the 4060, 7600, and A770/50 (all of those cards it beats btw) all of them are more expensive perform worse (in most cases). The b580 has asserted itself as a 1440p card, and having a good 1440p card for anything less than 250$ would be a steal. It feels like comparing a 3050 to a 4060.
I bet the 5060 will be $400 with 8GB Vram 10GB at the most.
With nvidia being 90% of the market doesn’t that put them into monopoly territory and the government usually gets involved?
here's the definition of a monopoly: the exclusive possession or control of the supply of or trade in a commodity or service. Do you think that Nvidia makes it harder for you to buy AMD or Intel GPU's or that they control the supply of all GPU's made?
@@SpeedySpeedBoy14 I would say so their high performance cards are priced stupid just because they cover whole market with them. I work in sp500 company and have experience with antimonopol shiat we got part of different company last year because they were monopol, employees portfolio customers etc.
Just to clear up it wasnt free but we could buy it out and they were forced to sell.
BTW china already opened antimonopol case on NVIDIA
@@SpeedySpeedBoy14they absolutely make it more difficult for partners to work with AMD, and do actively make it harder for you to switch to and amd GPU on a pre built at the OEM level.
Nvidia is monopolistic, they just do it in the background
They literally have an active case for antitrust practices for paying people to not advertise AMD and threatening partners if they decide to work with AMD or Intel...they are actually under investigation by multiple agencies for these actions@@SpeedySpeedBoy14
Depends. The government really only gets involved if the monopolist starts using its dominant market position to employ unfair business practices to preserve its position and squash competition.
If a company becomes a monopoly because all of its competitors just weren't as good, that's completely legal. That's kinda what happened with NVidia. They didn't necessarily cheat, they just make the best GPUs and everyone buys them.
Thanks Brett for oversharing XD
No B580's in my country, but in one of germany biggest retailers , the cheapest B580 is 325eur and the cheapest 5600 e 268eur the 4060 is 299 so people will still buy the nvidia card because ...reasons
If those will be the pricing I'll go with AMD, I wanted to try intel on my main PC too.
Nvidia is no go (linux).
Scalpers are pushing on amazon 400+€.
@@tuttocrafting Nvidia has drivers for linux now, i do not know how good they work because i have a AMD card at the moment,(rx6800XT i went for it because of vram 16Gb for the same price of the 3070 8gb at the time and i do not regret it) and i have ubunto on windows trough wsl 2.0 and also some docker containers
My advice to new investors: Buy good companies stocks and hold them as long as they are good companies. Just do this and ignore the forecasts and market views which are at best entertaining but completely useless.
The key to big returns is not big moving stocks. It's managing risk in relationship to reward. Having the correct size on and turning your edge as many times as necessary to reach your goal. That holds true from long term investing to day trading.
"Intel's quirks and features" - You really were channeling your inner Doug Demuro there, weren't you? 😂
Already Friday the 13th, huh? 😅
With such a large market share, NVidia will not hesitate to raise its prices sky high.
My last two gpus were AMD😊, I've had zero issues with them... Current is 7700 XT Tuf OC
My current card (6700 XT) is comparable so it's not worth buying a new card but I'm definitely gonna be recommending the B580 to friends.
8800xt will be worth for us 😂 wish it came out now
@@ilbro7874 God, I hope it's as good as the rumors suggest.
no way 5060 is going to be under 300$ NVIDIA wouldn't
Used 4060s are fixing to get cheap in January. 3x hit, Rx8000, B580 and new RTX5000's
Why can't you get it through your skull that JPR data doesn't show gaming share.
JPR data includes AI server AIB sales. Those GPUs can't game and Nvidia sells far more of those which cause the 90%.
Thats not gaming share though, the gaming share has been around 40/60 AMD, Nvidia for over two years now.
B580 sold out before Memex even open?? This almost seems like a soft release
Almost. I can't speak for retail stores but you could actually buy B580 cards online at MSRP since Wednesday (Dec 12th). By Thursday they were all sold out except for the stupidly priced Gunnir ones for $399 lol
2:20 no way Amd and Nvidia releases 250$ gpu. maybe a little hope for AMD, Nvidia no way. tbh I think they will charge 350$ for 5060.
Reese takes one day off and Nvidia immediately gets a bad deal... This is not a coincidence 🤫
I just want to know if I should be excited for the B570 because I just barely couldn't stretch my budget to get the B580.
timestamps be smoking more than snoop right now
I'd be part of the AMDs 12% IF MY 7900XTX ARRIVED ALREADY
Intel's pricing with the B580 gives it a good chance to actually make some inroads, since testing by several outlets has shown it beats the 4060 in multiple games by decent margins, is beaten by the 4060 in very few, and on average, looks to be about 15% to 20% faster than the 4060 while being cheaper. What is this 5060 you're speaking of? There are no Geforce 5K cards on the market yet. And AMD has made the mistake of focusssing on per card profit without offering good low end cards. Competing in the mid range isn't enough when you're far behind and losing ground. AMD used to know how to be aggressive. They're losing that.
Only going to buy the limited edition and put it in a matx build that displays the sleek looks of the B580
The fanless story is interesting, the we can question all we think previously about all cooler. Do we need it or just check the passive dissipation?
Ryzen 9000 series is aging pretty well. Keep hearing decent things now that we've gotten away from launch
How does the 3060ti beat the 4060?
Because the 4060 is ass
@@superloko9926 Nvidia is really getting lazy. The 4060 should be bare minimum a 3070... My god
As much as I think the 5050... I'm sorry, I mean 5060, will be DOA... you're absolutely correct that it will still sell and will outsell it's RDNA4 competition as well as the B580.
Not enough tech news!? That's when you just make s*** up
I don't think the new Nvidia 50xx series are going to be priced reasonably. I predict the 5060 will be over priced, and restricted by it's 8gb ram.
I'm more excited to see what AMD has in store with its 8000 series.
After 25 years of strictly Nvidia cards, I'm loving my Radeon 7600. ($175). Hoping for a decent upgrade for $200-400 upgrade next year. B580 is nice, but not enough of a performance boost to upgrade.
You've done your part to prevent population decline :) Take it very, very easy for a few days - you do NOT want a hematoma or popped stitch down there. A few bags of frozen peas might be a good idea, too.
Welcome to the neutered club buddy. The peace of mind it gives is immeasurable.
Just don't try to use it before its time. Trust me. 😢
2:00 Brett is a Doug Demuro enjoyer confirmed
Grocery store AI?!?! AIpples and bAInanas?!?!
what's up with the video bookmarks?
I somewhat proud to not be in Nvidias' 90%, still won't be buying the overpriced 5000 series.
I can imagine the B580 taking a share of the system market, replacing the 4060. Intel can offer CPU+GPU deals to OEMs now.
Breakfest while its nearly 4 PM in Austria :D (Yeah i know the channel is in the US)
Brettfast! Not breakfast. 😊
So the supreme Court dropped the Nvidia case.. why am I not surprised at all.. I wonder how many of the pockets of the supreme Court justices got filled on this one
I think the B580 is gonna end up being the modern RX580. It's got serviceable performance for a reasonable price and a ton of vram and will get consistent driver updates. Those are really a lot of the reasons why people kept on buying the RX 580, not to mention price cuts. Intel can cut prices by the time the 5060 launches to remain competitive and the b580 will remain a popular pick for the savvy budget oriented buyer.
life feels so empty without ufd deals
If Nvidia and AMD launch higher end first, and slowly get around to releasing their lower tier cards, the B580 might be the only sub $300 card for a while.
If I were Nvidia, I'd cut the dividends to shareholders, even though they're making money hand over fist on AI, and blame making provision for class action lawsuits.
Then we'll see the shareholders really scream... 😈
7000 Series should have been priced more aggressively from the start
at the very least the Battlemage launch will force AMD to give us some honest pricing on the 8000 series
the 5060 class cards traditionally won't launch for another 6 months.
I wouldn't be so sure about people buying the 5060 8gb.
I'm sure they will, but depending on how quickly Intel polishes their drivers, and inevitable performance games it'll be tough to see.
4:23 yep definitely going to be getting a B580 myself but I think wait for CES to see what amd 8000 series GPUs offers an release dates are
Looking at getting the B580 for my first ever build. Really excited.
5060 is not coming for a while
The asrock steel Legend B580 sadly costs €330,- in Europe! 🤔
OMG that outro was amazing!
Nice doug de muro nod there...
Lmfao that ending. Heal up well brochacho
10:45 this data is skewed because its the entire market and companies are buying in bulk because of AI from nvidia. but as a gamer and the gaming community really only cares about how many gpu's they are selling to this community which id fair to say is much lower
11:23 There is NO alternative to nvidia software. I'm sorry, that's the hard reality, DLSS and RT on Nvidia cards is way better than FSR and RT on AMD cards
I don't feel that it's any better than Intel's even though it is slightly theres no uptick in cost that can justify it. The value isn't there.
Amd is making more money now and about to make a turn to hardware AI so I feel this comment won't go down well in history.
Nvidia will do nvidia stuff or stuff anyone does at the top is coast and let competitors catch up not cause they want to. Look at this nvidia lawsuit could be the straw that breaks the camels back. Board members "where's our money? Oh it's like that then let's do some pruning"
@mattpulliam4494 There are tons of video comparison of dlss and fsr on nvidia and gpu cards out there, i suggest the ones from hardware unboxed, since they are a main gaming channel
Love the B580 performance, but would it be wrong to say this is a Loss Leader?
4:31 There's a glitch in the Matrix.
Why bro leking nvidia's in the video
I think if reviewers stopped saying NVIDIA's DLSS and Ray Tracing were massively superior (which of course is not true, better yes but not enough to matter for many) Maybe AMD and Intel would have a tiny bit more market share.
Nvidia is about to blow us all away with quantum bit tensor cores imo
These pricetags are always giga confusing for EU. Since I presume those prices are before tax?
That means EU-Prices include tax since its law and its always confusing.
+ EU mostly only gets partner cards. For us a b580 starts at 300€ to 320€
would be nice if that gets included somehow since its always confusing
With the 5090 cards coming out at $2000-2500 do you think nvidia is trying to push out high end custom cards?
VR/AR isn't gonna be a thing until its just a pair of glasses. Like those Rayban from Meta but they need to have full oled screens and a way to power them etc. I think people woukd accept a cord with a belt or poket device for now
Haven’t seen any b580’s in aus yet, big sad
All b580's at MSRP are sold out everywhere
Why don’t somebody go after Nvidia for over charging prices on RTX 4xxx while still being cut down. Nope. The 4090 isn’t going blow up or catch fire on you lol.
I'm tired of all the "updates" that they do on the regular.
NVDA is like Pepsi and AMD is like the Noname brand Cola and Intel is the sketchy gas station brand Cola.
NVDA or nothing imo
the b580 stomps the rtx 4060ti and the rtx 3070 in some games they dont always beat it it is a devil of a gpu
What do you mean we got to play by the same laws and regulations were Nvidia.
When I built my current system (Ryzen 5600 w/ RX6600).. I chose to stick with AMD for the GPU for mainly weak 'philosophical' reasons, rather than it being the best performance. I have been burned by NVIDIA in the past and felt it was time to get burned by AMD.
You'll be walking like John Wayne for the next few days 🤣
man tech news this week is slow. i need some juicy news!
The B580 might make AMD and NVIDIA prices go down, so that is a win for every gamer, I'll buy a B580 when it arrives in my country, I would like to support Intel now that I know their products are worth it.
Currently have a b580 on reserve at microcenter till i can go after work for it
Planning on using it in bazzite
I think Intel is releasing this GPUs now on this price point to give a nice discount when the bigger ones come out.
Cheers from Brazil.
Than you said almost the same thing... But I thing this price point will be to the bigger Intel cards.
It's my birthday! Looking to get the b580, coincidence it was launched on my birthday when I'm looking for a GPU.
And he keeps talking about breakfast as I leave at the exact opposite side of the earth!
He totally says Brettfast everyday. Not breakfast.
I'm sorry, WHO believes a 5060 is going to exist? Lol
Normally, I'm the kind of person that believes in more competition equaling better products, however, with the android XR, it really kind of feels like they're just ripping off apples vision pro, and trying to emulate the ecosystem without actually emulating the ecosystem, and the design of it is really too close for my taste. I hope that's just an AI image of it, and that they actually have something cooler than that, because otherwise I could see Apple trying to sue them over.
Oh Reece my boy. Hope the PC surgery goes well, and let us know what it ends up being.
Should I get one to replace my 3060 12gb?
It's like a 4060 but can go to higher resolutions and texture resolutions. Whether that's worth the money is up to you.
@rhoharane how about for work load stuff, photo editing with luminar neo. My 3060 runs at 100% when I do certain processes and it takes a few min to process.
*Going to go flip the snip*
Whut!? 😂
I’d buy the 580 if I could find any available for not 400 😅
Better price for googles vr?
If anyone manages to make a b580 sff like what Gigabyte did for the RTX 4060, it would make this card an incredibly heavy hitter. AMD's most powerful equivalent is the 4 gig rx6400 sff!!!!!
It is nice that Nvidia has most of the PC market share, BUT Nvidia does not care about that. AI is the future of the company.
Wait, have those been Pizzamas shirts you've been wearing the last few days?
Lvidia?
Nvidia will Experience ™ the humbling of 2025
Yup
We can only hope
4:31 lol
AMD and Nvidia is not going to offer anything for $250 that comes with 12gb of ram.
And they won't be as powerful as the b580, or its potential.
The b580 will only continue to gain performance. No doubt.
they will still buy Nvidia no matter what...
@@RedLine0069naaah. Most people will still buy nvidia, but I think Arc market share can only increase from this point, and it will increase significantly
@@RedLine0069 Of course they will, but not as much.
Every b580 sold, is one less terrible 3060 or 4060 sold.
They are already sold out everywhere, that won't change.
It's going to get better. And Intel will continue to increase performance even further with driver updates no doubt.
How do you feel about that? :)
@@DaveTheeMan-wj2nkHonestly. The brand loyalty with nvidia is too strong. People really don't like change, they'll still bring up arguments, about efficiency and their needs and buy nvida, especially about dls
@@superloko9926 Yeah I don't think so. So far the current data says otherwise.
Of course you'll still have those who will buy the dead on arival 8gb cards, but the b580 is sold out everywhere, day 1.
It's that good.
And intel is going to increase its performance with driver updates. Honestly it's quite wild when you think about it.
By the end of a few driver updates over the next few months, the card might even see a 10-20% performance boost. I think games like dying light, and spiderman give a sight at just how powerful it really is when the drivers are really good for that game.
We're talking 7700xt+ performance. Peopoe will still Buy Nvidia of course, but every b580 sold, is one less Nvidia sold.
Careful....Doug DeMuro is gon.a come for you 🤣 Appreciate the analysis of the upcoming market for video cards.
Too many people crying about NVDIA prices on UA-cam… I bet 99% of them will end up buying a NVDIA graphics card anyways. Stop crying and get a job