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    The Insane Capacity of Red Dwarf | Ship Size PT2 Floor Space | Red Dwarf Nerd
    Just how big is the original Red Dwarf ship PT2? We all know it's massive, but just how massive is it? Let's look at the crazy amount of internal floor space available when you lay out all those thousands of floors, and let's compare it to the size of the UK! in this Red Dwarf Fact File episode!
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    Greetings fellow dwarfers
    In my first video on the size of Red Dwarf I mentioned that if the famous diesel decks covered just a few floors, then Rimmer's little hiking holiday would have seen him checking out an area about the size of a county. So let's have a look today at just how enormous each floor could be and try to work out just how much ludicrous internal space that ugly trash can of a ship has!
    Okay so in my last look at the size I established that for the original shape red dwarf to make sense size wise, using the minimum floor count of 2583 from Stasis Leak, the often quoted 5 mile length has to apply just to the main body of the ship, ignoring the huge ram scoop on the front and the engine bell at the back. Go check out the original vid if you’ve not already seen it or you want a refresher.
    With that length set, I also worked out the height and width for the main body of the ship.
    I also established that, according to the Stasis Leak lift attendant, there must be at least 2583 floors.
    So today we’re going beyond the exterior length and breadth and looking at the interior floor space that our favourite boys could actually move about on.
    Now that ugly red trash can is a bit of an oddball in terms of shape, to put it lightly, so for simplicity sake today we’re going to chop things down a bit, removing the sloping pyramid like front section, as well as the rear where it slopes towards the engine, leaving us with a nice neet hexagonal cylinder.
    is 5 miles long, 3miles high without skyscrapers, (3.2miles high with), 3.45 miles wide, when we look at just the main central section, ignoring the ramscoup on the front, the engine bell on the back and the rear slanted section.
    So with things chopped down to a still ludicrous 3.3miles of length, we can punch the numbers in for just the main hexagonal tube of the hull to quickly come up with an enormous potential floor area for the smallest decks, those at the very top and bottom, of 5.69[sq mi] and for the widest decks, those around the middle, an absolutely bonkers 11.385[sq mi] each!.
    From these numbers we get a completely average figure of 8.54[sq mi] for each deck.
    So that's a massive average of 8.54 square miles of possible floor space for each of the 2583 decks, giving us a possible total of, 22058.82[sq mi]! If you thought Skyrim’s 15[sq mi] was excessive, this is nuts!
    To put it into perspective, if we lay out all that floor space and place it over Britain, the Dwarfs potential interior space is about 40% of England’s land mass and almost two times that of Wales! Absolutely bonkers for a mining ship with a crew of 4, heck it's a bonkers size for even for the ships original series 1 total of 169… even for the later 1169 it’s still pretty mad! What the smeg, lets go right up to the novels 11169, where each crewmember could get a ‘mere’ 1.975[sq mi] all to themselves!
    22058.82miles2 divided by 4 = 5,514.705[sq mi] per crewman
    22058.82miles2 divided by 169 = 130.53[sq mi] per crewman
    22058.82miles2 divided by 1169 = 18.89[sq mi] per crewman
    Now I keep saying ‘potential’ interior space and there's a good reason for that, as there’s got to be interior bulkheads, equipment, plumbing, engines, storage, life support, computing, vending machines and far more besides. So how on IO can we work out how much accessible floor space we’re left with after all that's subtracted? Well in all honesty we can't, not with any absolute accuracy, as I’ve never been able to find any detailed official blueprints for the dwarf. However, we can look at some real world examples for a bit of inspiration!
    First up, looking at something equally as industrial as the small rogue one, we have an Oil Tanker. Even with their massive multi story engines taking up a fair old chunk of space, the simply gargantuan storage capacity of these brutes means that the interior space remains very high indeed! My estimate would be that only about 5% of the volume lost to internal features.

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  • @jeremyjasiak
    @jeremyjasiak 2 роки тому +44

    Really makes sense now that a whole species could live and evolve in only one section of the ship.

    • @RedDwarfNerd
      @RedDwarfNerd  2 роки тому +7

      yeah, I think they try there best, but portraying just how crazy big the ship is inside has always been a struggle for the creators, budget really limits the scope!

    • @MrWeedWacky
      @MrWeedWacky 2 роки тому +2

      Or in an alternate reality... on A deck, on B deck, pretty much any deck they like!

  • @MrMortull
    @MrMortull Рік тому +16

    The scale of Red Dwarf makes a weird amount of sense... she's a *mining* ship on years-long round trips across the solar system. We're talking about capture and drilling of large asteroids, sorting, smelting, refining and storage of multiple billions of tons of material at a time. That's just for the obviously valuable ores, but on top of that JMC would also want to process for aggregates and other byproducts of any value (you want zero waste in space, or as close to it as you can get), plus all the support craft and industrial equipment for all the processes, some of which might only actually be called into use for rare edge cases.
    Does that seem excessive to you? Well, consider that *once you've got that mass into orbit*, fuel and transportation costs are incredibly small, especially if the Dwarf simply keeps moving the whole time... accelerating, turning and braking are the only real "energy costs" in Zero-G so having this sluggish behemoth crusing around between the planets at a comparatively leisurely couple thousand MPH carrying all that gear and with all that packed cargo space (the more you fill it, the better for profit margins!) is probably the most cost-effective way to run a large scale stellar mining operation. Now factor in your crew and various AI, which you might think the company would want to squeeze for even better returns on investment... but no, they can easily afford to give generous accomodations and leisure/repair facilities (depending on whether you're talking about human crew or things like skutters and sapient vending machines) and in the grand scheme, it's SMART to do so. Stressed and unhappy workers perform poorly, especially over the long term, and a similar paradigm is in place for equipment, either AI or dumb machines.
    Bottom line of this ramble: it was absolutely in the JMCs best interests, from an operational and profits perspective, to make ships like Red Dwarf. As big, as versatile, as lumbering and as comfortable to work/live in as they possibly could.

    • @RedDwarfNerd
      @RedDwarfNerd  Рік тому +6

      Yeah, brilliantly put, it just makes sense! There's a few good vids out there about nasa's proposed sea dragon rocket, which would have been bonkers big. The thinking was that if your building and launching a rocket, there's actually very little extra cost in making it twice, three, four times as big, as your only having to do one build and one launch, rather than multiples to get the same payload into orbit. So in the real world we have designs that support your idea!

    • @RX552VBK
      @RX552VBK 10 місяців тому +3

      Naylor and Grant were ahead of their time. I'm not talking about the ship itself (we probably wont be building things like this for centuries if ever)--no I mean all the interactive AI. I mean Holly, Kryten, intelligent travel luggage, Skutters and Talky Toasters. Although, Kryten was designed and built maybe a century or two after RD left the Sol system, that robotic Marilyn Monroe robot doll Lister assembled for Kryten it way more primitive (and ugly--lol) than he is. I said all this bc the other day I needed help from Suri on my iPhone, I thought she was taking a little long and said something--I swear--she was STILL LISTENING and responded! I dropped the phone and laughed! I kept thinking about Talkie Toaster, who is very intelligent and communicative--except his/its loved of toasted bread products. SMEG 4eva!

  • @someonenamedbob
    @someonenamedbob 2 роки тому +24

    It's also worth mentioning that the Red Dwarf was a mining ship. Most of the internal space would be either resource processing or storage. And that the show heavily Implies that the "nice" crew space was only a small fraction of its internal space.
    I don't recall any of this being explicitly stated anywhere so we can only speculate.

    • @RedDwarfNerd
      @RedDwarfNerd  2 роки тому +5

      Yeah, there are references to the regular sleeping quarters as well as the 'officers' quarters, which kinda implies there are just 2 areas for accommodation and everything else is just industrial or storage.

    • @davefave4351
      @davefave4351 Місяць тому

      So the British 'Nostromo' then?

    • @someonenamedbob
      @someonenamedbob Місяць тому +1

      @@davefave4351 If my memory serves the Nostromo did not have a shopping plaza and wasn't very large in terms of "crew comforts" or dedicated work/storage space.
      Now the Nostromo was having a rather large piece of equipment (not sure if it was as big as Red Dwarf) but the crew would spend the overwhelming majority of space travel in suspended animation and wouldn't really be doing much even when they weren't being exterminated by a stowaway.

    • @davefave4351
      @davefave4351 Місяць тому

      @@someonenamedbob
      Well, alright - maybe in purpose then if not design...
      So the US crew (I'm making assumption here) were held in a cryogenic suspended animation while our British design held Dave and the crew in a sort of suspended belief..!

    • @someonenamedbob
      @someonenamedbob Місяць тому

      @@davefave4351 I prefer to say suspended in more of a dystopian hell. Hello you're trapped on our ship for the duration of your employment, here have some shops and tat so that we can claw back your salaries from you.
      One has to wonder if the human race had not gone extinct just how much contact the Red Dwarf would have had with any colonies or stations. And also when it got irradiated it just stayed out in the middle of nowhere for a very long time, one has to wonder if any attempt was made to recover a very expensive ship?

  • @onlineamiga
    @onlineamiga Рік тому +15

    So huge and yet Rimmer and Lister who don't like each other, still share a bunk bed in a tiny cabin.

    • @RedDwarfNerd
      @RedDwarfNerd  Рік тому +10

      Ha, yeah. I've slways found that funny! I think Dave is just a social animal and needs someone close by to keep him from being depressed. Thats how i see it!

    • @onlineamiga
      @onlineamiga Рік тому +5

      @@RedDwarfNerd Haha true and me2 is the best episode to explore this. Lister is originally overjoyed when Rimmer moves out but soon starts going mad with how bored he was getting because he didn't have Rimmer to poke fun at. Then of course was enjoying the fact Rimmer "split up" with Rimmer and was welcoming him back.
      However... This doesn't explain Rimmer. Who blames Lister for him failing his exams due to bad habits having to share a bunk with him. You'd think he'd be off the first chance to get away from Lister who has done nothing but annoy him and bring him down.
      But I dunno, Even the best of friends would probably choose to have their own space if there was mountains of it available. Even if it was just a case of going next door so you'd still be close but having the benefits of your own space. I mean heck.. the toilet isnt even private in those dorms!

    • @SéaFid
      @SéaFid 4 місяці тому +4

      ​@@onlineamigaI can offer an explanation: though Rimmer is a hologram, he is still a hologram of a humam, along with Lister being the last of their species. They might stay around each other to stave off depression and existential dread. That, and humans are creatures of habit, so they just got used to bunking together being how it is for them. It was their room, and both simply decided it felt off kilter to stay in a different room. You can look at it from many angles: but in the end it is a tragic, desperate, clinging to the familiar in an effort to not go...mad.

    • @pcppbadminton
      @pcppbadminton Місяць тому

      It could also be, since Rimmer is just piggybacking on Holly's AI and Holly chose Rimmer as the ship's hologram to keep Dave sane, that Holly is influencing Rimmer to stay close to Lister and Rimmer wouldn't even realise because he's just a hologram.

  • @sambarber944
    @sambarber944 Рік тому +7

    Your channel makes me so friggin proud to be a Red Dwarf fan! I love how for such a silly show at times you can go seriously in-depth with the proper science fiction and can still take it completely seriously. Subscribed!!

    • @RedDwarfNerd
      @RedDwarfNerd  Рік тому +2

      Ha, cheers Sam Barber, I just figured it was about time that Dwarf got the kind of positive fan attention and content that Star Wars and Trek receive all over the web! Thanks for watching and commenting, really appreciate it! 👍

  • @NebLleb
    @NebLleb 2 роки тому +15

    The Dwarf is easily my favourite fictional ship. Quite possibly the largest non-colony craft ever designed.

    • @RedDwarfNerd
      @RedDwarfNerd  2 роки тому +1

      Yeah, there are very few larger designs that arnt meant as planet replacements! :-)

    • @davefave4351
      @davefave4351 Місяць тому

      A few of the Culture craft in Iain M Banks world are a bit OTT imo...

  • @angharaddenby3389
    @angharaddenby3389 Рік тому +7

    Series 1 opening credits. Lister is seen, in a spacesuit. painting part of the F of 'Dwarf'. I suggest you use THIS as a guide for the size of the Big Red One. It is actually around 2,000 x 1.100 FEET in size using Lister as a scale.

    • @RedDwarfNerd
      @RedDwarfNerd  2 місяці тому

      Thanks for watching and commenting, I really appreciate it! 👍

  • @j_may
    @j_may Рік тому +4

    Great Video! Ive been thinking a lot lately about the Red Dwarf internal layout. I was thinking if all the scenes from every season was listed out, you could essentially create a floor plan that stitches all the locations together. From there you could create 3d models of each room and then create an accurate 3D photorealistic walkthrough (or VR experience) where you could visit all the familiar spots. You would just have to work out which floor each room belongs to and then join them together with some typical red dwarf corridors and lock off access to all other spaces and rooms around the ship. You could access only floors that have been mentioned in the tv shows and make all other floors unavailable. This would be such a fun project to build!
    I was even looking into how AI could generate 3D Models of the rooms as a starting point. If Grant and Naylor fancy funding this project Id be keen to get involved. (Background: Game Developer with a Degree in Interior Design!)
    Also could include AI scutters, Holly screens and vending machines that have built in ChatGPT so you could actually have real world conversations with them! The list is endless! 😁😁👌

    • @RX552VBK
      @RX552VBK 10 місяців тому

      That endeavor would be incredible!

    • @RedDwarfNerd
      @RedDwarfNerd  2 місяці тому

      Thanks for watching and commenting, I really appreciate it! 👍

    • @RedDwarfNerd
      @RedDwarfNerd  2 місяці тому

      Thanks for watching and commenting, I really appreciate it! 👍

  • @punkrockzoologist9449
    @punkrockzoologist9449 2 місяці тому +8

    Remember Red Dwarf is going to have massive cargo bays to store all the ore from mining. The actual inhabitable sections could be pretty small compared to the overall internal volume.

    • @RedDwarfNerd
      @RedDwarfNerd  2 місяці тому

      Thanks for watching and commenting, I really appreciate it! 👍

  • @otakarkuby3926
    @otakarkuby3926 Рік тому +6

    Another curious observation, is the technology found by the crew may have either been found created or given to the Cat people, its also plausible that Red Dwarf was infuenced by external agengies which may have aided the Cats to survive in a semi non interference sort of way. 3 million years offers so many avenues. The best or curious of the Cats may have filtered away from Red Dwarf with last last remnants leaving as told in the Cat Scriptures. I cant even scratch the surface of all the possibilties.

    • @RedDwarfNerd
      @RedDwarfNerd  Рік тому +2

      Absolutely, there are endless possibilities!

  • @JonSmith-cx7gr
    @JonSmith-cx7gr 2 роки тому +9

    I believe the pistons were mentioned in one book when Rimmer squashed a load of skutters. Worth a visual if any dimensions were given.

    • @RedDwarfNerd
      @RedDwarfNerd  2 роки тому +3

      Ah yes, good point, I'll have to go check that one out! :-)

    • @JonSmith-cx7gr
      @JonSmith-cx7gr 2 роки тому

      @@RedDwarfNerd Found it. 40:33 ua-cam.com/video/2i2cn8kws2o/v-deo.html&ab_channel=AceRimmer

  • @mf-cf8tr
    @mf-cf8tr 2 роки тому +4

    thanks for reminding me of this show. going to rewatch it all now.

    • @RedDwarfNerd
      @RedDwarfNerd  2 роки тому +1

      Do it! every episode non stop! :-)

  • @DustinBKerensky97
    @DustinBKerensky97 2 роки тому +4

    I think the Tanker comparison is apt. Look at how small the actual habitable area of a tanker is. Only about 3-5% of the tanker is crew areas, the rest the mechanical and storage.
    Red Dwarf is a mining ship, supposedly hauling a full load back from the outer moons towards earth. It's going to need to hold all the mining machinery and ore storage for it's mining job. Also those storage holds and machinery holds aren't likely to have 8ft ceilings like crew quarters will. I'm not sure how big of a machine you need to mine moons and asteroids but I bet there are many cavernous levels of the Dwarf taking up most of its bulk.
    Like the small command deck of the Tanker, I bet the actual crew space of the Red Dwarf is probably just a small 5% in some corner of the ship.

    • @RedDwarfNerd
      @RedDwarfNerd  2 роки тому +1

      Yeah, that's a fair point. TBH it makes sense to wonder if all the habitation areas are just in those skyscrapers on top of the ship, and everything else is just industrial or storage?

  • @otakarkuby3926
    @otakarkuby3926 Рік тому +2

    Ah Synchronicity, I was trying to remember the name of an actor from shows I could remember, but my friend and I refused to go online to find out, as we enjoy feeling the frustration of a bad memory, then out of the blue a few months later you flash Windsor Davis, great thanks,really apprecitae you putting that one to bed.. 😉

    • @RedDwarfNerd
      @RedDwarfNerd  Рік тому +1

      ha, i included it just for you, honest! 😊😊

  • @w8m4n
    @w8m4n 2 роки тому +1

    I love that you've exposed the potential for the series and how I can be expanded almost exponentially. I have to admit, I've never really thought about the implications the size of the crimson short one could have! Again, cheers smegga!

    • @RedDwarfNerd
      @RedDwarfNerd  2 роки тому +1

      No probs, tbh I cut that section down for time, I had a whole extra ramble about how entire groups of people/cats/mechs could still be living out there lives somewhere onboard undiscovered by the dwarfers!

    • @w8m4n
      @w8m4n 2 роки тому +1

      @@RedDwarfNerd I'd love to delve into that in some way. I often think about writing a few spin off bits of my own but I always end up just watching the existing episodes

  • @nadger6240
    @nadger6240 2 роки тому +2

    If only i could spend my days wandering the Dwarf.
    A lot of the space must be taken by that huge rock in the side. Id say a lot of the interior is ore storage and processing too. But even if the estimate was taken to a quarter it would still be bonkers.

    • @RedDwarfNerd
      @RedDwarfNerd  Рік тому

      Thanks for watching and commenting, really appreciate it! 👍

  • @AconcernedUKcitizen
    @AconcernedUKcitizen 2 місяці тому +3

    4 other characters could have another 12 series and never bump into each other.

  • @davidbeppler3032
    @davidbeppler3032 2 місяці тому +3

    How much does it weigh? Would it have it's own gravity?

    • @RedDwarfNerd
      @RedDwarfNerd  2 місяці тому +1

      Thanks for watching and commenting, I really appreciate it! 👍

  • @MelloYellow2099
    @MelloYellow2099 2 роки тому +2

    The issue I see with your summation is that the Red dwarf is mining ship. Most, definitely more than half, of the internal space would have been devoted to mining. equipment machine shops and cargo holds for mined material etc.
    Just like with your oil tanker example.. most of a working oil tankers internal space would be taken up by oil and mostly unusable.
    The Red dwarf still would have had massive areas for the crew but we might be talking one quarter of the size of England not four quarters

    • @RedDwarfNerd
      @RedDwarfNerd  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for watching and commenting, really appreciate it! 👍

  • @marthastubbs8321
    @marthastubbs8321 Рік тому +2

    It makes sense why the corridors and that change. The ship is so big they move to new areas which look different, different corridors and bunk rooms and kitchens etc and never return to the old areas again.
    Like they had the drive room in series 10. Would love in a new episode if they had to go all the way back to their series 3 bunk room to look for something, though I concede it would be a waste of time building a set just for that

    • @RedDwarfNerd
      @RedDwarfNerd  Рік тому +2

      yeah, i think its even been said before that the change from the series 1&2 grey sets, to the clean white series 3 sets was because they moved to the fancier officers quarters. So there's defiantly in universe evidence that different areas are styled differently.

  • @FullBoostJ4
    @FullBoostJ4 2 місяці тому +2

    The only thing that doesn't make sense is when the ships being painted, the figure painting it isn't to scale with the "Red Dwarf" script on the side.

    • @RedDwarfNerd
      @RedDwarfNerd  2 місяці тому

      Thanks for watching and commenting, I really appreciate it! 👍

  • @Emohawk707
    @Emohawk707 2 роки тому +3

    By my count, If the crew were equivalent to a town of 15,000 people per floor, the crew of the JMC mining vessel Red Dwarf would have to be like... 38.75 Million staff
    (I haven't watched part 3 yet, but I'm keen to see what you come up with for why this is not the case. My theory is that between Holly and the Scutters, most of the ships functions are automated, and crew are only required for essential processes and even just to make sure the computers don't go tits-up)

    • @RedDwarfNerd
      @RedDwarfNerd  Рік тому

      Thanks for watching and commenting, really appreciate it! 👍

  • @BrainboxccGames
    @BrainboxccGames 2 місяці тому +1

    i'd consider it more like an aircraft carrier in operation and logistics.
    also based on other maths youve done, theres an asteroid the size of ben nevis stuck inside it, that is being disassembled into raw ores, which have to be stored somewhere. The cargo decks should be filled with enough ore to build a space colony. They wouldn't be habitable.

    • @RedDwarfNerd
      @RedDwarfNerd  2 місяці тому +1

      Thanks for watching and commenting, I really appreciate it! 👍

  • @clairewatts330
    @clairewatts330 2 роки тому +2

    But it's a mining ship so crammed with things it's mined that some bits are stuck to the outside. It doesn't make sense they would build anything that size when it was unnecessary. I would suggest there may have been massive storage areas for things like water, ores, and fuel, plus massive processing plants for converting rock into those ores, and huge hangars for equipment to mine them. Plenty of space the cats can have converted into new decks, but which were originally built as huge open spaces. I would argue the dwarf has a crew capacity as originally designed of maybe a couple of thousand maximum, given that through most of its journey many of those were not actually on the ship, but still needed cabins. Now that still means there's plenty of scope for exploration, but the human habitation is just a thin layer around the outside of the ship, and which may have been inaccessible to the cats; perhaps they didn't realise they were on a ship until quite late in their development.

    • @RedDwarfNerd
      @RedDwarfNerd  2 роки тому +1

      that's a fair point Claire Watts, thanks for watching :-)

  • @w8m4n
    @w8m4n 2 роки тому +1

    Oh smeg! Another upload I wasn't informed of! I've hit the notification bell like a planet being potted into a white hole and yet here I am, late again!!

    • @RedDwarfNerd
      @RedDwarfNerd  2 роки тому +1

      I'm not sure what thats about, my other channel got a notification, so im not sure why you didnt

    • @w8m4n
      @w8m4n 2 роки тому

      @@RedDwarfNerd ...weird init

  • @ladymecha8718
    @ladymecha8718 2 роки тому +4

    I always felt Red Dwarf was how big the TARDIS generally is on the inside.

    • @RedDwarfNerd
      @RedDwarfNerd  2 роки тому

      ha, yeah, almost limitless! 👍

    • @darania1
      @darania1 Рік тому +2

      The TARDIS has an actual dwarf Star in its centre so its interior area is much larger than RD...

  • @STE6677
    @STE6677 2 роки тому +1

    Didn't expect to see Hull at 7:54 😂

    • @RedDwarfNerd
      @RedDwarfNerd  2 роки тому +1

      Ha, well I work there, so I just shoved my mobile in the headrest one morning! 😂

    • @STE6677
      @STE6677 2 роки тому +1

      @@RedDwarfNerd Ow really, me too 😄

    • @RedDwarfNerd
      @RedDwarfNerd  2 роки тому +1

      @@STE6677 ha, who's stalking who?! 🤣🤣🤣

    • @STE6677
      @STE6677 2 роки тому

      @@RedDwarfNerd I just remembered that the first time I saw your face in a video I did think you looked familiar but then just shrugged it off as me getting mixed up with someone else. So now I'm not sure 😂😂😂

  • @morlockmeat
    @morlockmeat 2 місяці тому

    But, what's that rock encrusted part of the ship on the bottom? I've always wondered if it started out as a structure built on a small asteroid and they just continued building it from there.

  • @ZoahLord
    @ZoahLord 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for remembering Swansea. Do us a favour and remind Holly who knocked Swansea City out of the FA Cup in 1967...I hear he's having trouble with that fact

    • @RedDwarfNerd
      @RedDwarfNerd  2 роки тому

      as long as he continues to remember who wrote the worst book ever I think we'll be okay! :-)

  • @ProvocativeSloth
    @ProvocativeSloth Рік тому +1

    Red dwarf is so massive, and yet they make crew members sleep in bunkbeds? Tight gits!

    • @RedDwarfNerd
      @RedDwarfNerd  Рік тому +1

      Ha, I guess its a hierarchy thing to keep the technicians at the bottom of the accommodation pile!

    • @davidwuhrer6704
      @davidwuhrer6704 Рік тому

      There was a precedent, a military barracks that was three or four times as big as it needed to be to house the soldiers stationed there. So the brass decided to let the men spread out and pick their accommodations. (More living space means more area to clean, so there is incentive to keep to a small space, right?)
      When they tried to relocate them later, they found they couldn't, because the men had used up all available space, running a casino and at least two brothels.
      This has become a lesson to officers to keep the men in tight spaces, no matter how much space is available.
      The JMC is not a military (although it follows Space Corps regulations), but I assume that the same logic would apply.
      Although: Sailors on freighters and tankers have far more spacious cabins than any passengers on cruise ships. I mean far more spacious. (This was not the case on wooden ships where even the officers' quarters were cramped.)

  • @MostlyInteresting
    @MostlyInteresting 2 роки тому +2

    I always thought the interior specifics made no sense. I always suppose a mining ship this immense would be mostly processing equipment inside. And massive metal storage from that process.

    • @RedDwarfNerd
      @RedDwarfNerd  2 роки тому +1

      It's all left a bit vague in the show, like its never explained if that massive asteroid on the side of the ship is there by accident, or if it's being transported for mining purposes!? :-)

    • @MostlyInteresting
      @MostlyInteresting 2 роки тому +1

      @@RedDwarfNerd I figured it ate asteroids and pooped elements. :)

    • @cornishcactus
      @cornishcactus 2 роки тому +1

      @@RedDwarfNerd funny enough I looked at this only the other day, later models show jagged impact craters of the asteroid and it was decided by the crew to just leave it there. However earlier versions did have a bay to capture them to be worked on.

  • @vinny142
    @vinny142 2 місяці тому

    A) It's a mining ship, it's probably 3/4 just storage for the stuff they have collected.
    B) Comedy requires a huge ship so the ship itself can act as a world for the crew to explore and find new things without ever leaving the ship.
    For me, overthinking these things just reduces the fun factor.

  • @NoahSpurrier
    @NoahSpurrier Рік тому +2

    I was never clear if Red Dwarf was built into an asteroid or had been hit by an asteroid that fused with the craft in the past.

    • @RedDwarfNerd
      @RedDwarfNerd  Рік тому +2

      I used to wonder the same, like perhaps the asteroid was needed to make the gravity on board or something like that.

  • @TheRealBigDan
    @TheRealBigDan 2 роки тому +3

    Always wondered if that was a asteroid impacted into the ship or if it was being mined, the remastered Dwarf implied it was asteroids being mined whilst attached to the ship

    • @RedDwarfNerd
      @RedDwarfNerd  2 роки тому +2

      Yeah, I curious on that one, it's never stated clearly so we can only guess :-)

    • @JonSmith-cx7gr
      @JonSmith-cx7gr 2 роки тому +1

      @@RedDwarfNerd Be curious no more my nerd friend and put your guesses aside.
      As clearly stated in the first book (when Lister sees Red Dwarf for the first time).............. "a huge shadowy carbuncle jutted out a mile or so from the red monster's belly - a small moon torn out of orbit and flung itself into the ship's solar plexus....."
      You're welcome.
      59:36 of
      ua-cam.com/video/FK8LfW5bRww/v-deo.html&ab_channel=AceRimmer

    • @MrWeedWacky
      @MrWeedWacky 2 роки тому +2

      @@JonSmith-cx7gr that doesn't actually enlighten us... was it "torn out" deliberately or did it "fling itself"? - in the Red Dwarf universe, both options are completely possible, but both breach the laws of logic ->
      It would either
      Have been Torn out deliberately and been flung deliberately into the solar plexus of Red Dwarf for mining purposes.
      Or it would have accidentally fallen out of orbit and flung itself (with no influence from the crew to avoid the situation) into the ship...
      Which should have caused massive damages given the size of the thing and the the velocity things move around with in space, It simply would make the kinetic energy of such an impact stupendous.
      So, I lean towards it was torn out and deliberately scooped up.

  • @LostieTrekieTechie
    @LostieTrekieTechie 2 місяці тому +1

    Plus, how much space is taken up by the captured moon/aesteroid

    • @RedDwarfNerd
      @RedDwarfNerd  2 місяці тому

      Thanks for watching and commenting, I really appreciate it! 👍

  • @Shindai
    @Shindai 2 роки тому +1

    See, if my math teachers at school told me it might be useful for nerdy shit like this, I might have tried a bit harder xD

    • @RedDwarfNerd
      @RedDwarfNerd  2 роки тому +1

      Ha, tbh, Google did most of the maths for me! :-)

  • @smelkus
    @smelkus 2 роки тому +1

    I assume Red Dwarf must have been constructed in space as their wouldn't be enough space to construct it on earth and it would have been very difficult getting it into space from the ground

    • @RedDwarfNerd
      @RedDwarfNerd  2 роки тому

      That would make sense, although personally I think it might have been built on one of the many outer solar system moons. Perhaps one rich in iron ore, but with low gravity, making it easy to launch from?

    • @RedDwarfNerd
      @RedDwarfNerd  2 роки тому +1

      ... Or it could have been built out of an iron ore filled asteroid... Like the one still hanging out the side!

  • @therichieboy
    @therichieboy 2 місяці тому +1

    6:00 that's an external hull detail, not a cutaway of the interior.

    • @RedDwarfNerd
      @RedDwarfNerd  2 місяці тому

      Thanks for watching and commenting, I really appreciate it! 👍

  • @daviddalton5831
    @daviddalton5831 2 роки тому +1

    Man. I've got a lot of space to cover 😅

    • @RedDwarfNerd
      @RedDwarfNerd  2 роки тому +1

      Ha, get cracking fella! Just a thousand more miles to go! :-)

  • @RX552VBK
    @RX552VBK 10 місяців тому

    Bloody Smeg! I love that red tin can! I wonder if humanity will ever get that advance?

    • @RedDwarfNerd
      @RedDwarfNerd  2 місяці тому

      Thanks for watching and commenting, I really appreciate it! 👍

  • @kroon275
    @kroon275 Місяць тому

    Judging by the size of an average human I estimated the letter F on the name as approx 100ft tall, which would make that 'hex cylinder approx 2500ft (half a mile) long as opposed to the 15,000ft long that 3miles equates to.

  • @ricperry8743
    @ricperry8743 2 роки тому +1

    Smeggin' great, la.

  • @lindsayantwine1097
    @lindsayantwine1097 2 роки тому +1

    Does anyone know if we've heard any rumors of a 14th season??

    • @RedDwarfNerd
      @RedDwarfNerd  2 роки тому +2

      It's all up in the air at the moment, as theres a legal battle going over the rights to Red Dwarf. I'm hoping to make a video about it soon.

  • @ryanjones5133
    @ryanjones5133 Рік тому +1

    I get it was originally designed for interstellar travel but wye does it have to so bloody big.

    • @RedDwarfNerd
      @RedDwarfNerd  Рік тому

      Ha, I guess it must just do massive mining!

    • @davidwuhrer6704
      @davidwuhrer6704 Рік тому +1

      The limiting factor for a space ship is mass, not space. You can build as big as you want to at no extra cost. No neighbours bordering your plot or anything.
      Bigger is better in many ways. For example, it gives manoeuvring thrusters more leverage. And for artificial gravity you can have a lower angular velocity, which is more comfortable.

  • @bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24
    @bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24 2 місяці тому

    Seems to me most if the ship would be industrial machinery for mining and storage plus it's own engines and systems. That would likely leave only a small amount for the actual crew quarters and living space. Similar to huge oil tankers today where the crew accommodation is small compared to the ship overall size.

    • @RedDwarfNerd
      @RedDwarfNerd  2 місяці тому

      Thanks for watching and commenting, I really appreciate it! 👍

  • @SoundwaveSG1
    @SoundwaveSG1 2 місяці тому

    @7:54 that's Hull

    • @RedDwarfNerd
      @RedDwarfNerd  2 місяці тому +1

      Thanks for watching and commenting, I really appreciate it! 👍

  • @jacobleetaylor
    @jacobleetaylor 2 роки тому +1

    Another great video buddy :) keep it up (also link to any guitar content you have please?)

    • @RedDwarfNerd
      @RedDwarfNerd  2 роки тому

      Cheers Jacob, no guitar content at the moment as I'm really concentrating on Red Dwarf Nerd right now, but I have some ideas for the DR-nerd channel in the future! :-)

  • @BlorkTDork
    @BlorkTDork 2 роки тому +1

    How much space is taken up by the BIG ROCK jammed in the side?

    • @RedDwarfNerd
      @RedDwarfNerd  Рік тому +3

      thats a fair question, well we never see any interior shots with the rock forming one of the walls, so I'd speculate that its not gone that far in.

    • @BlorkTDork
      @BlorkTDork Рік тому

      @@RedDwarfNerd i was under the impression that it that it took up a huge amount of space and was the mining part of the operation and was all full of bore holes and shafts getting at the ore then once it was played out they detached and grabbed a new one

  • @davidwuhrer6704
    @davidwuhrer6704 Рік тому

    Stacking the decks like that doesn't make sense in space, but everyone seems to do it. Space ships aren't usually ocean going vessels (one notable exception being the Esperanza of course), so there is no keel on the bottom. Or a bottom.
    The first book describes city-like buildings on the surface of the ship, seeming to imply that "down" is towards the centre. But artificial gravity works in exactly the oppsite direction. And later in the book, the internal transport seems to go sideways towards the centre, although that is not entirely clear.
    The specific layout makes no difference to the available area in total, only to the size of the individual decks.

    • @RedDwarfNerd
      @RedDwarfNerd  2 місяці тому

      Thanks for watching and commenting, I really appreciate it! 👍

    • @davidwuhrer6704
      @davidwuhrer6704 2 місяці тому

      @@RedDwarfNerd Thank you, your videos are always interesting

    • @robertkalinic335
      @robertkalinic335 Місяць тому

      Stacking floors with down being engine and top the front is the only arrangement that makes sense, small 1g of constant acceleration for equivalent of earths gravity is nothing for red dwarf.
      Its implied it can run indefinitely by fusing captured hydrogen.

    • @davidwuhrer6704
      @davidwuhrer6704 29 днів тому

      @@robertkalinic335 Red Dwarf has a ram scoop for interstellar travel, prominently visible on the model. Which is odd because until The Incident it was only used as a cycler, entirely interplanetary. The book mentions the questionability of that design decision.
      Nothing in space ever moves in a straight line, so using thrust for gravity only makes sense either when or until you have to change direction. Which can take a while with a ship the size of Red Dwarf, you wouldn't want it to tear itself apart.
      And you probably don't want to tell the crew that the wall is the floor now because you were a week late for the manoeuvre burn to enter Io orbit.

  • @parkershaw8529
    @parkershaw8529 2 роки тому +1

    So, dare I say, if you simply scale RD merely a few times up, the floor space will be same as Earth surface.

    • @RedDwarfNerd
      @RedDwarfNerd  2 роки тому +1

      ha, yeah, or if you had a fleet of those things together!

  • @marthastubbs8321
    @marthastubbs8321 Рік тому

    I wonder how many toilets are in Red Dwarf

    • @RedDwarfNerd
      @RedDwarfNerd  Рік тому +2

      we'll one in every bunkroom at least, and we saw captain Hollister come out of one spraying air freshener about in 'back in the red pt1'

  • @sween187
    @sween187 4 місяці тому

    Giving the milage across the ship and the amount of floors, each floor would average, 2.2 meters in height.

    • @RedDwarfNerd
      @RedDwarfNerd  2 місяці тому

      Thanks for watching and commenting, I really appreciate it! 👍

  • @imc1pd
    @imc1pd Місяць тому

    He likes to use his hands.

  • @kasterborous1701
    @kasterborous1701 2 місяці тому

    The diagram you keep claiming is a cutaway is really a side view. It’s not showing the ship’s interior layout.
    And OF COURSE the ram scoop is going to be attached to the engines. That’s the whole point of a ram scoop.

    • @RedDwarfNerd
      @RedDwarfNerd  2 місяці тому +1

      Thanks for watching and commenting, I really appreciate it! 👍

  • @andy-the-gardener
    @andy-the-gardener 3 місяці тому

    the economics of building a spaceship of even a minute fraction of red dwarf [say cruise ship size] obviously would never add up. the energy costs necessary to get that sort of mass into space, even if the energy was available, esp at the tail end of an industrial civilization that had that sort of technology, and one still running on the dregs of fossil fuel after finding out 'renewable energy' was a myth, would take hundreds of years to repay from mining rocks of low value. time it would never have due to time running out for civilization. even on a mined out dying earth, ravaged by the civil wars of imploding nations, more than enough materials could be found under the sahara or deep ocean for relative peanuts, or possibly from salvaging materials from dead cities like new york, making space mining a non starter

    • @RedDwarfNerd
      @RedDwarfNerd  2 місяці тому

      Thanks for watching and commenting, I really appreciate it! 👍

  • @alliancenavy4593
    @alliancenavy4593 2 роки тому

    what is the redwarf

    • @RedDwarfNerd
      @RedDwarfNerd  2 роки тому +1

      it is the greatest sci fi ship ever designed... and the smegging worst! :-)

  • @AGuyCalledRune
    @AGuyCalledRune 2 роки тому +2

    And in metric?

    • @RedDwarfNerd
      @RedDwarfNerd  2 роки тому

      Ha! I thought cutting it down to only imperial was risky! :-) At 66% full it works out as about 9.0767sq km per floor and about 23430.439sq km total. :-)

  • @seanshatters
    @seanshatters 2 роки тому +1

    It's 2022 , use km

    • @RedDwarfNerd
      @RedDwarfNerd  Рік тому

      ha, i had a 50/50 choice and got it wrong! :-)

  • @MrWeedWacky
    @MrWeedWacky 2 роки тому +1

    So, how big is the storage for the Lager made from Urine Recyc?