Hey guys and welcome to the video where we finally answer the question of whether you need a toner in your routine or not.. I love both James and Hyram so whilst this is a bit of fun to compare their different opinions skincare is personal to the individual so no hate, only love for them both and leave me a comment below to let me know are you a toner or an avoider? xx
I’ve never believed that toners were needed and thought of them as an unnecessary step. Then while diving into more Korean beauty products (and James Welsh recommendation) I decided to try Klairs Supple Preparation Unscented Toner. The first time I used it, my skin loved it and I was automatically hooked! It took my skin to the next level especially after upgrading my game with tretinoin when hydration is key! I’m now officially one of those people who think hydrating toner in absolutely essential and it became a staple in my routine
Hey hun thank you so much for watching and for sharing your thoughts on the Klairs toner which I totally agree with you on as I love how it makes the skin feel.. I think toners are great for people who have drier skin types but they are less essential for those of us with oily skin.. Sending lots of love xx
I tend to think toners are just a way for skincare companies to make more money, but at the same time I love skincare so much I can't help but try them lol. Thanks for the recommendations. I am going to have to look into FaceTheory products!
Hi Nina hope your well and I agree with you a lot of them are not worth the money companies ask for them.. I do think the facetheory ones are worth it and I love so many of their products. xx
Hi hun thank you so so much for watching and I hope all is good with you.. Thank you for the recommendation and I need to try more of the PC toners for sure xx
Toner is my favorite part of my skincare routine and the part I look forward to most. I have dry skin and this is my hydrating step. I don’t use a separate hydrating serum (unless it’s a peptide serum) because too many serums feel disgusting on my face. Korean skincare seems to be focused on hydration and has so many amazing toners. I don’t even use a cotton pad. I just douse my face with a watery thin toner. Yeah, I will never ever skip the toner step. I’m going with Kelly Driscoll and James welsh here. Right now my HG toner is Elizavecca 100% centella asiatica toner. It has an odd smell (I thinks it’s fermented) that dissipates quickly but it’s super hydrating and plumping and I love centella asiatica and even mugwort. Both ingredients reduce redness around my nose.
Haha I totally agree with you and I think people with dry skin are those who will benefit the most from having a toner in their routine.. For other skin types I think its totally optional but in order to build your hydration levels then a toner is key.. Sending lots of love xx
I love toners, especially Korean ones. Great way to get light layers of effective ingredients onto my oily skin. Love your videos thanks for getting here!
I love my glycolic acid toner from The Ordinary but I'm really perplexed as to which serums it's ok to add before. I believe you addressed this in your " what not to mix video". I need to revisit...sidenote: I'm absolutely obsessed with Facetheory as of late. Affordable but feel so luxury...
OMG I am obsessed to with FaceTheory their products are so good and I love their toner which is a real treat for the skin.. what you can use it with is included in the what not to mix video and you can use most things so long as you leave enough time between then to allow the skin PH to adjust.. I hope this helps xx
Hi hun thank you so so much for watching and I agree with you that pure rose water is a fantastic toner and super calming so thank you so so much for the recommendation xx
@@MadAboutSkin Can you please please please talk about one of these things in your next videos (if you like ) . I would love to hear your thoughts 🌸 1- clay masks or face masks in general and do they actually work . and how to choose the right mask for your skin type/concerns . Recommended products, thoughts about popular face masks. 2- how to Strengthen and repair your moisture barrier . 3. Peptides in skincare, are they necessary ? ! 4. Facial oils for every skin type and are they necessary or beneficial? should we use them daily ? 5. I don’t know if you use foundation or not but what do you think about Foundations in general? People who have oily /acne prone skin will definitely understand this , it’s very difficult to find foundation that won’t clog pores and cause breakouts . most makeup doesn't cause acne, but certain ingredients can clog pores , what are the ingredients that we should avoid ?
I love the Cosrx centella alchohol free toner and the Purito centella unscented toner, for my dry sensitive skin it’s a nice extra hydration, also love the PHA toner from the Inkey list!
Loved to hear your opinion! I’ve just recently discovered the benefit of toners and have fallen in love with a few. My favorites are the HaruHaru Wonder Black Rice Toner and the Isntree Green Tea Toner. I don’t think they’re necessary at all but I love the feeling of them.
Hey hun I hope all is well with you.. I have just ordered the black rice toner when I heard James Welsh say how amazing it is so I cant wait to try it out xxx
I used toners for years after cleansing to take off any makeup left behind. Now that I do the "double cleanse," I no longer need a toner. I suppose I could add a hydrating product, but I've worked so hard to simplify my skincare routines, I just can't do it! IF I actually worked outside the home, and needed a hydration "pick me up" during the day, I would consider a hydrating spray, like the Indie Lee product!
Hi hun, I hope all is great with you and you had a good weekend.. I totally agree with you that if you perfect your cleansing routine then you shouldnt need a toner as all the makeup and dirt should be off the face.. The Indie Lee product is great for on the go but I think your right to resist if you have worked to keep your routine to a minimum whilst getting all the benefits you want :) sending lots of love xx
@@MadAboutSkin Rob, you are my favorite youtuber and I am so thankful for your videos! You are such a sweetheart, and THAT is why your channel is growing. It is obvious you truly care for others, and have great integrity! Sending you love and hugs back!! Patti ❤❤❤ xxx
Thank you so much for this! I've been questioning whether or not a toner is necessary in my routine because I find them helpful but been watching Hyram profess they are not needed. I have dry, dehydrated, yet not overly sensitive skin so I find it very helpful for reasons you've laid out in the video. I used them strategically, sometimes for exfoliating and sometimes priming for actives and the remainder of my routine. I use the Some By Mi AHA BHA PHA 30 Day Miracle Toner as a light exfoliant toning agent and the Clarins Extra-Comfort Toning Lotion to prime for serums and the remainder of my routine. I know Clarins in not en vogue but I do find them to prime the skin quite well. As always, I really appreciate your input and have benefited from your reviews and input.
Hi hun thank you so so much for watching and I hope everything is amazing with you.. I think toners are completely optional but that people with dry skin benefit the most from having them in their routine.. I am no fan of clarins but they have some good products and I would say some of their toners are the best products from the line so its good to hear your thoughts on them too.. Sending lots of love xx
I use the 7 skin method (I actually layer a few different ones), enough said lol. But in all seriousness, I think it’s a good way to get a cocktail of nice ingredients into your skin without layering seventy seven serums, especially if some serum textures make you want to claw your face off. Like, I despise hyaluronic acid serums, but I like my toner that’s high in HA because it’s less gloopy, I also use toners to exfoliate bc I have sensitive skin (and use retinol) and I prefer lower concentrations of acids. I prefer to get my soothe and hydration and antioxidants (I’m talking about stuff like green tea, not vitamin c) from them and go to serums for “treatment”: retinol, nicinamide, vit c, peptides...
Hi hun thank you so so much for watching. I have never tried the 7 skin method but its really popular in korea and is making its way over here for sure so I should really give it a go to see what the results are.. Sending lots of love xx
I know there is a lot of debate about the "need" for a toner in your routine, but I'm a sucker for Korean toners and essences. I rotate among several and I love the hydration, the smooth consistency, the calming properties of the fermented ingredients, and in the case of the I'm From Rice Toner, the brightening properties of the rice. I also use the Klairs Supple Preparation Unscented Toner, the Purito Fermented Complex 94 Boosting Essence, the Pyunkang Yul Toner Essence and the Sioris Time is Running Out Mist. I'm a little bit addicted.
Haha it sounds like your a little addicted but there is no problem with that and I agree with you that Korea have some amazing toners to choose from.. Unfortunately they can be a little hard to get hold of here in the UK though its getting better and I hope to try some more very soon xx
Hi hun, I do believe that the need of toner depends on skin type and condition. Only when i included a toner on my skin care I started to see that my skin is not so dehydrated , my pores are smaller (look smaller) and my T zone does not produce so much sebum. So, I think that DSWP skin types need / will benefit from the use of the right toner.
I totally agree with you and I think toners can bring some really good benefits but it all depends on choosing the right one for your skin type.. Hope all is amazing with you xx
I use my toner in the morning instead of a cleanser. It's a super basic one (glycerin, aloe, chia extract, rose water) from Sante (a german brand). Nothing fancy but it gets the job done. I rely on my serums for active ingredients. A lot of toner gets lost in my reusable cotton pads so I wouldn't spend a lot on it. Great video 😊
Hey hun thank you so so much for watching and I think thats a great idea to use it as a light cleanse if you dont do a full cleanse in the morning.. Thank you so much for sharing xx
While I found it initially irritating I have started to enjoy the Purito Centella Unscented Toner over the past few days. If my skin has been irritated from my Tretinoin it doesn't tolerate it (I assume due to the witch hazel), but aside from that I find it hydrates my dry skin. (Next time I will order the witch hazel free version for sure!). On days where my skin has been irritated I switch to The Ordinary Buffet serum and skip the toner.
Hey hun I hope all is good with you and I agree I think I prefer the witch hazel free version too it makes it a little less irritating and its one of those toners I cant make my mind up with.. Sometimes I love it and sometimes my skin doesnt feel like it is doing anything but I keep coming back to is so I think that answers the question xx
After having opted out of toner for the past 10 yrs, that's recently changed. I'm growing to love my toner. I have sensitive / rosacea skin. I LOVE the Be Plain Chamomile pH-Balanced Toner to calm my red face after a hot shower (I know hot shower is bad, but I can't help it - I LOVE HOT SHOWERS) This toner calms my skin right down, the botanicals smell lovely (the scent fades quickly), contains licorice root to calm and feels like a luxury treat to myself! (Yes, I'm a sucker for the toner experience!) SIDENOTE: Have you been able to get your hands on any of the Aveeno Calm & Restore line?! I want so badly to try those 3 products but everyone is sold out!!!
Hey hun, I am just like you, I have been growing to love toner in the past year and its a great little luxury extra step in the routine which I am really enjoying.. I havent tried the be plain but it sounds amazing so will have to give it a go.. Thank you so so much for the recommendation xx
I have been using Paula’s Choice Advanced Replenishing Toner and I didn’t really love it. Just got the Benton Deep Green Toner and Purito Complex 94 Boosting Essence from my Jolse box. I’m excited to try them. Not really sure what the difference is between a toner and an essence. Maybe you could do a video breaking down the differences between toners, essences and ampoules. ❤️
Hey hun you must have read my mind as I have a video coming up about the difference between the two and my favourite essences.. I need to try more of the PC toners for sure as I love the brand but havent tried many.. xx
You won't be impressed, but I use the Simple Hydrating Toner. It doesn't have any benefit, but I bought it because it's alcohol free and I use it to get rid of the hard water residue. I have felt the difference in my skin since using it, and I think it's because it's removing some of the minerals that my tap water leaves behind. I also really like The Beauty Chef Probiotic Skin Refiner, but since it has lactic acid in the ingredients list, I don't know whether I can use it before Vitamin C or other active serums. Edit to add, I also use the NIOD SDSM2 mist in the mornings after the Simple toner, and the Osmosis Boost in the evenings. I don't think of them as toners though. More like watery serums 🤷♀️
HAHA no judgement here hun as I dont mind the simple toners, the soothing one has some good actives in it and the hydrating one is simple but if it works for your skin then i would keep using it for sure.. I love the NIOD SDSM, I agree with you, I think it is more of a serum in water form than a toner as it has so so many benefits though you could use it as a standalone toner if you wanted.. I hope you had a wonderful weekend xx
I have mixed feeling on toners, ive uesed many good ones but at the ame time I feel like if I can make my routine more simpler, I will, the Kalira toners is great, im currently using a DIY green tea face mist, really greart for acne, im also interesting in the FAB ultra hydrating toner with oatmeal and the COSRX propolis toner and lastly the Benton green tea toner
I have a few toners I like but I don't necessarily feel I need them. It's just a fun extra step and can hydrate my skin for the next steps easily. I use them most days because I like how they make me feel.
Hi hun thank you so so much for watching and I hope all is good with you.. I totally agree with you and toners can be a lovely step which adds to your self care routine and make your routine seem a little more luxurious which I love xx
Hello hello Dear Rob 😘 I do like myself a toner and I always had 😛 I’ve actually been using Haruharu Wonder black rice toner since July ( funnily enough the one in James’s video since you referenced it ). I find it simply amazing! 👏 is very hydrating and it did help brighten my skin tone. Ordered it on iHerb for £15. I am pretty sure I mentioned Haruharu Wonder in one of my comments to you few weeks ago 😉 I must thank Felicia from Beauty Within as she discovered it and recommend it in several of their videos ☺️
Haha its so funny you should say that but I popped one on order when James mentioned it as it sounded really good so I cant wait to try it when it comes.. I hope all is wonderful with you and sending lots of love xx
I love that indie Lee toner and a lot of their products. my favorite toners right now are the isntree green tea toner and the im from rice toner but I'm always on the hunt for new ones that are hydrating since I'm on prescription retinol from my derm. loved this video!! :) can I also just say you look fab in glasses!
Serious topic indeed!🤭 Looking great as always!😉 I have a thirsty monster under my skin, I use I'm from Rice, it is soothing and calming and gives little hydration... And Im actually expecting the shipping of Pyunkang Yul essence toner and Missha Time Revolution's first treatment essence RX.. I plan to use them in the winter to help the hydration of my skin! I can't wait to try them and share thoughts with you!!💞🌹💞
Aww thank you so so much hun and I am excited to hear what you think when your shipment arrives as you have chosen some gorgeous brands I love.. I think winter is when a good toner comes into its own and can really help our skincare routines. Sending lots of love xx
Its a total pleasure hun and I am so so glad you found the video useful.. I agree with you that a good toner can add some amazing hydration to your skin and make your other products work so much better xx
My skin is generally dry and I find that within the 10 seconds it takes to pat my face dry and walk to my moisturizer, my face is already dry and (not tight but certainly not damp enough). So toners have been a Godsend for me.
Good Loooooooord! The Facetheory do some amazing formulas. Thanks for the heads up 👏🏻 (Although they seem to love mixing Niacinamide & Vit-C, which goes against everything i've been taught) 😱
Haha I totally agree with you.. its easy to get a little addicted to FaceTheory.. I never have had a problem with vit c and niacinamide lol and use the two together all the time too xx
I've always thought that if you feel like you need to add a toner into your routine for hydration, your moisturiser is probably not rich enough. Toners have always seemed like a waste of money to me.
I do tend to agree with you that its a nice to have step and if your other steps are working good enough then you shouldnt need one.. I do like a toner sometimes to add a little luxury to my routine but its for enjoyment rather than any skincare benefit.. Sending lots of love xx
Hi hun thank you so so much for your recommendation.. I havent tried that one but I love Q10 and so I will pop one on order as I love the look of it xx
Hi Sam I hope all is amazing with you.. I totally agree a toner can add a lovely extra level of hydration.. I havent tried the missha essence yet but its on order and taking ages to come lol,... I am getting impatient xx
Good question!! Hmm? I'm here to find out!! :D (before watching: don't use one ...) Post watching: oh turns out I *am* using one, semantic thing. I LOVE them. Wonderful review of some great ones to look at!
Aww thank you so so much hun and I hope your having a great start to the week.. I think there are a lot of people out there like you who are using one without actually knowing.. Sending lots of love xx
I have combination skin. I use an spf every day that is very moisturizing. I use a moisturizing toner as a first step moisturizer to keep my skincare lighter in weight, which I prefer.
Perfect video as I am looking for a good hydrating mist toner for dry dehydrated skin that won't cause break outs. Any recommendations without fragrance. Thank you
Hi hun.. I get so many questions about witch hazel and its one of those topics which nobody can agree on.. I like it in skincare as i find it helps with my acne and its soothing to the skin but there is a chance it can irritate the skin in some people so I would use with caution and make sure you patch test first.. I hope this helps xx
I'm a bit mad about toners at the moment. In a morning I use first treatment essence, benton snail and bee skin toner and then pixi. On a night its first treatment essence and purito green level calming toner and pixi . Someone save me from myself!!
HAHA I dont think you need saving as all those products are lovely and I am sure your skin is loving them :) .. I love a good essence too they add a little luxury to the routine which I always love.. I hope all is amazing with you xx
@@MadAboutSkinwell I'm keeping on keeping on if you on own what I mean. I'm high risk for the dreaded lurgy and I'm losing the plot looking at the same four walls but other than that I can't complain! I'm amusing myself shopping online for skincare. I have to admit I'm using a ton of products at the moment but it's only because I love testing new things and I'm impatient. My skin has never looked so good. Now I can't change the acne scarring although it has improved but other then that I've had so many compliments lately I'm 34 now and the first time anyone has complimented me on my skin was last month! As for toners though, I have also just ordered the etude house soon jung toner along with a couple ot the other soon Jung products in the line. I hope all is well for yourself, family and friends also. Loving every one of your videos. They're a good time for me too as I'm in uk too (east Yorkshire) 🤗
@@LittleMissBettyPage I have also been home (since March) and it is finally staring to get to me a bit. My husband is a teacher, and is home teaching all day, so at least I have some company. I miss shopping and eating out the most. I am almost to the point that I'm just going to do it..... go out to a local store. I will probably go CRAZY buying things, LOL!!
Loved the video, i think toner is not a must for all its a pampering product for my skin i started using Dear Klairs unscented supple toner it provides quite a good hydration, i have isntree HA Plus toner in skincare box waiting to try next week
Good molecules 👍🏼 been loving it and it’s ingredients are phenomenal;) niacinamide vitamin c and alpha arbutin a totally fab product and so comfortable under my spf 🧴
Wow that sounds amazing in terms of ingredients its like a routine in one but I havent tried it but I need to.. Thanks for watching and I hope all is amazing for you xx
I'll be buying the Face Theory one! Do you have or can you do a video about micellar water? I'm just confused as to what its for, if its helpful and id like to know your recommendations if you have any.
Hi hun thank you so so much for watching and I hope you had an amazing weekend.. I really hope you love the facetheory one as much as me :) its one of my go to products now.. I actually did a video on micellar water which can be found here so I hope this helps xx ua-cam.com/video/0ZT9GdXMJm8/v-deo.html
I don’t use toners very often, when I tried to challenge myself to use it straight for a month, I didn’t really feel the difference. Maybe it’s related to taking other quite moisturizing steps? Is there any way to ask you to explain in a following video something specific about some skin concerns? 🤔
@@MadAboutSkin I have watched your video about blackheads and absolutely enjoyed it. Should skincare routine be the same when you try to get rid of whiteheads? 🤔
I heard a lot of good things about propolis. So I have the propolis synery toner form Cosrx on order. Very curious about the results for my skin (dry and sensitive)
Hey hun thank you so much for watching and propolis is wonderful and so good for hydration and soothing the skin.. Cant wait to hear what you think of it let me know what you think of it xxx
Hi hun, I love it.. I did a review on REN and share the thoughts on it in there and its one of my go to for sure.. I hope all is good with you and here is a link to the video in case you want to check it out xx ua-cam.com/video/r-KRGats3Jw/v-deo.html
Aww thank you so so much Tim your super kind.. I love the Geek and Gorgeous toner.. Its lovely and hydrating so its good for people with sensitive and dry skin.. Have you tried it? xx
@@timjacob2518 Its a pleasure and here is a link to it if that helps.. I have been really imprssed with them as a company and their shipping is really good iaff.geekandgorgeous.com/125-12-3-16.html
How do you order something by mistake if you have to enter your credit card information? You didn't know you were entering this information? 🤷 Lol. Or maybe you thought it was a different product??
Haha I always try keep it as affordable as possible but I have totally fallen for NIOD and FaceTheory and am loving the brands so much though my wallet isnt lol xx
Haha I agree with you, when it comes to toners Korea has some amazing ones to choose from though I am loving the UKs FaceTheory and their toner so much.. Thanks for watching xx
I am all about toners with a purpose. I’ve used Paula’s choice toner and Paula’s BHA and notice a big difference when I use one at a time vs together. I believe it does take the active ingredients to the next level to help the skin. Can’t do without it now with this aging skin 😀
Hey hun I am totally with you on this, if its with a purpose then a toner can be a great addition and I really need to try more of the toners form PC as I have only tried a few of them.. Thank you so so much for watching xx
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Hey guys and welcome to the video where we finally answer the question of whether you need a toner in your routine or not.. I love both James and Hyram so whilst this is a bit of fun to compare their different opinions skincare is personal to the individual so no hate, only love for them both and leave me a comment below to let me know are you a toner or an avoider? xx
I’ve never believed that toners were needed and thought of them as an unnecessary step. Then while diving into more Korean beauty products (and James Welsh recommendation) I decided to try Klairs Supple Preparation Unscented Toner. The first time I used it, my skin loved it and I was automatically hooked! It took my skin to the next level especially after upgrading my game with tretinoin when hydration is key! I’m now officially one of those people who think hydrating toner in absolutely essential and it became a staple in my routine
Hey hun thank you so much for watching and for sharing your thoughts on the Klairs toner which I totally agree with you on as I love how it makes the skin feel.. I think toners are great for people who have drier skin types but they are less essential for those of us with oily skin.. Sending lots of love xx
I tend to think toners are just a way for skincare companies to make more money, but at the same time I love skincare so much I can't help but try them lol. Thanks for the recommendations. I am going to have to look into FaceTheory products!
Hi Nina hope your well and I agree with you a lot of them are not worth the money companies ask for them.. I do think the facetheory ones are worth it and I love so many of their products. xx
I feel the same way
I can’t live without a toner.Advanced Replenishing from PC is my favorite 💜
Hi hun thank you so so much for watching and I hope all is good with you.. Thank you for the recommendation and I need to try more of the PC toners for sure xx
Oh I use that too! My one non Korean toner!
Toner is my favorite part of my skincare routine and the part I look forward to most. I have dry skin and this is my hydrating step. I don’t use a separate hydrating serum (unless it’s a peptide serum) because too many serums feel disgusting on my face. Korean skincare seems to be focused on hydration and has so many amazing toners. I don’t even use a cotton pad. I just douse my face with a watery thin toner. Yeah, I will never ever skip the toner step. I’m going with Kelly Driscoll and James welsh here.
Right now my HG toner is Elizavecca 100% centella asiatica toner. It has an odd smell (I thinks it’s fermented) that dissipates quickly but it’s super hydrating and plumping and I love centella asiatica and even mugwort. Both ingredients reduce redness around my nose.
Haha I totally agree with you and I think people with dry skin are those who will benefit the most from having a toner in their routine.. For other skin types I think its totally optional but in order to build your hydration levels then a toner is key.. Sending lots of love xx
@@MadAboutSkin I’m so glad you brought up this topic!
I love the first aid beauty ultra repair hydrating toner! Absolute Holy grail 😍
Hey hun thanks for watching and i havent actually tried it but i really have to as so many people say how wonderful it is xxx
I want to try that so much! I really like the FAB stuff and their company❤💛
I love toners, especially Korean ones. Great way to get light layers of effective ingredients onto my oily skin. Love your videos thanks for getting here!
I love my glycolic acid toner from The Ordinary but I'm really perplexed as to which serums it's ok to add before. I believe you addressed this in your " what not to mix video". I need to revisit...sidenote: I'm absolutely obsessed with Facetheory as of late. Affordable but feel so luxury...
OMG I am obsessed to with FaceTheory their products are so good and I love their toner which is a real treat for the skin.. what you can use it with is included in the what not to mix video and you can use most things so long as you leave enough time between then to allow the skin PH to adjust.. I hope this helps xx
I love to use rose water as a toner , I mean real organic rose water (no chemicals).
it’s very hydrating ❤️
Hi hun thank you so so much for watching and I agree with you that pure rose water is a fantastic toner and super calming so thank you so so much for the recommendation xx
@@MadAboutSkin
Can you please please please talk about one of these things in your next videos (if you like ) . I would love to hear your thoughts 🌸
1- clay masks or face masks in general and do they actually work . and how to choose the right mask for your skin type/concerns .
Recommended products, thoughts about popular face masks.
2- how to Strengthen and repair your moisture barrier .
3. Peptides in skincare, are they necessary ? !
4. Facial oils for every skin type and are they necessary or beneficial? should we use them daily ?
5. I don’t know if you use foundation or not but what do you think about Foundations in general? People who have oily /acne prone skin will definitely understand this , it’s very difficult to find foundation that won’t clog pores and cause breakouts . most makeup doesn't cause acne, but certain ingredients can clog pores , what are the ingredients that we should avoid ?
I love the Cosrx centella alchohol free toner and the Purito centella unscented toner, for my dry sensitive skin it’s a nice extra hydration, also love the PHA toner from the Inkey list!
Hey hun thank you so so much for watching and I love the PHA toner so much too its go gentle yet you get some great results xx
Loved to hear your opinion! I’ve just recently discovered the benefit of toners and have fallen in love with a few. My favorites are the HaruHaru Wonder Black Rice Toner and the Isntree Green Tea Toner. I don’t think they’re necessary at all but I love the feeling of them.
Hey hun I hope all is well with you.. I have just ordered the black rice toner when I heard James Welsh say how amazing it is so I cant wait to try it out xxx
I used toners for years after cleansing to take off any makeup left behind. Now that I do the "double cleanse," I no longer need a toner. I suppose I could add a hydrating product, but I've worked so hard to simplify my skincare routines, I just can't do it! IF I actually worked outside the home, and needed a hydration "pick me up" during the day, I would consider a hydrating spray, like the Indie Lee product!
Hi hun, I hope all is great with you and you had a good weekend.. I totally agree with you that if you perfect your cleansing routine then you shouldnt need a toner as all the makeup and dirt should be off the face.. The Indie Lee product is great for on the go but I think your right to resist if you have worked to keep your routine to a minimum whilst getting all the benefits you want :) sending lots of love xx
@@MadAboutSkin Rob, you are my favorite youtuber and I am so thankful for your videos! You are such a sweetheart, and THAT is why your channel is growing. It is obvious you truly care for others, and have great integrity! Sending you love and hugs back!! Patti ❤❤❤ xxx
I haven't used toners and think i already have too many steps in my routine but i am tempted with the indie lee product for sure xx
Hey hun I hope all is good with you and sending lots of love xx
Blasphemer!
You can never have too many steps, in the neverending rabbit hole that is skincare 🙃
Thank you so much for this! I've been questioning whether or not a toner is necessary in my routine because I find them helpful but been watching Hyram profess they are not needed. I have dry, dehydrated, yet not overly sensitive skin so I find it very helpful for reasons you've laid out in the video. I used them strategically, sometimes for exfoliating and sometimes priming for actives and the remainder of my routine. I use the Some By Mi AHA BHA PHA 30 Day Miracle Toner as a light exfoliant toning agent and the Clarins Extra-Comfort Toning Lotion to prime for serums and the remainder of my routine. I know Clarins in not en vogue but I do find them to prime the skin quite well. As always, I really appreciate your input and have benefited from your reviews and input.
Hi hun thank you so so much for watching and I hope everything is amazing with you.. I think toners are completely optional but that people with dry skin benefit the most from having them in their routine.. I am no fan of clarins but they have some good products and I would say some of their toners are the best products from the line so its good to hear your thoughts on them too.. Sending lots of love xx
I use the 7 skin method (I actually layer a few different ones), enough said lol. But in all seriousness, I think it’s a good way to get a cocktail of nice ingredients into your skin without layering seventy seven serums, especially if some serum textures make you want to claw your face off. Like, I despise hyaluronic acid serums, but I like my toner that’s high in HA because it’s less gloopy, I also use toners to exfoliate bc I have sensitive skin (and use retinol) and I prefer lower concentrations of acids. I prefer to get my soothe and hydration and antioxidants (I’m talking about stuff like green tea, not vitamin c) from them and go to serums for “treatment”: retinol, nicinamide, vit c, peptides...
Hi hun thank you so so much for watching. I have never tried the 7 skin method but its really popular in korea and is making its way over here for sure so I should really give it a go to see what the results are.. Sending lots of love xx
Gloopy....Lol. That's a funny word. 🤷😂
I know there is a lot of debate about the "need" for a toner in your routine, but I'm a sucker for Korean toners and essences. I rotate among several and I love the hydration, the smooth consistency, the calming properties of the fermented ingredients, and in the case of the I'm From Rice Toner, the brightening properties of the rice. I also use the Klairs Supple Preparation Unscented Toner, the Purito Fermented Complex 94 Boosting Essence, the Pyunkang Yul Toner Essence and the Sioris Time is Running Out Mist. I'm a little bit addicted.
Haha it sounds like your a little addicted but there is no problem with that and I agree with you that Korea have some amazing toners to choose from.. Unfortunately they can be a little hard to get hold of here in the UK though its getting better and I hope to try some more very soon xx
Hi hun, I do believe that the need of toner depends on skin type and condition. Only when i included a toner on my skin care I started to see that my skin is not so dehydrated , my pores are smaller (look smaller) and my T zone does not produce so much sebum. So, I think that DSWP skin types need / will benefit from the use of the right toner.
I totally agree with you and I think toners can bring some really good benefits but it all depends on choosing the right one for your skin type.. Hope all is amazing with you xx
@@MadAboutSkin Love watching your videos and secretly wish that you can including moree Korean recommendations :) Big hug!!
I use my toner in the morning instead of a cleanser. It's a super basic one (glycerin, aloe, chia extract, rose water) from Sante (a german brand). Nothing fancy but it gets the job done. I rely on my serums for active ingredients. A lot of toner gets lost in my reusable cotton pads so I wouldn't spend a lot on it. Great video 😊
Hey hun thank you so so much for watching and I think thats a great idea to use it as a light cleanse if you dont do a full cleanse in the morning.. Thank you so much for sharing xx
While I found it initially irritating I have started to enjoy the Purito Centella Unscented Toner over the past few days. If my skin has been irritated from my Tretinoin it doesn't tolerate it (I assume due to the witch hazel), but aside from that I find it hydrates my dry skin.
(Next time I will order the witch hazel free version for sure!). On days where my skin has been irritated I switch to The Ordinary Buffet serum and skip the toner.
Hey hun I hope all is good with you and I agree I think I prefer the witch hazel free version too it makes it a little less irritating and its one of those toners I cant make my mind up with.. Sometimes I love it and sometimes my skin doesnt feel like it is doing anything but I keep coming back to is so I think that answers the question xx
After having opted out of toner for the past 10 yrs, that's recently changed. I'm growing to love my toner. I have sensitive / rosacea skin. I LOVE the Be Plain Chamomile pH-Balanced Toner to calm my red face after a hot shower (I know hot shower is bad, but I can't help it - I LOVE HOT SHOWERS) This toner calms my skin right down, the botanicals smell lovely (the scent fades quickly), contains licorice root to calm and feels like a luxury treat to myself! (Yes, I'm a sucker for the toner experience!)
SIDENOTE: Have you been able to get your hands on any of the Aveeno Calm & Restore line?! I want so badly to try those 3 products but everyone is sold out!!!
Hey hun, I am just like you, I have been growing to love toner in the past year and its a great little luxury extra step in the routine which I am really enjoying.. I havent tried the be plain but it sounds amazing so will have to give it a go.. Thank you so so much for the recommendation xx
I have been using Paula’s Choice Advanced Replenishing Toner and I didn’t really love it. Just got the Benton Deep Green Toner and Purito Complex 94 Boosting Essence from my Jolse box. I’m excited to try them.
Not really sure what the difference is between a toner and an essence. Maybe you could do a video breaking down the differences between toners, essences and ampoules. ❤️
Hey hun you must have read my mind as I have a video coming up about the difference between the two and my favourite essences.. I need to try more of the PC toners for sure as I love the brand but havent tried many.. xx
You won't be impressed, but I use the Simple Hydrating Toner. It doesn't have any benefit, but I bought it because it's alcohol free and I use it to get rid of the hard water residue. I have felt the difference in my skin since using it, and I think it's because it's removing some of the minerals that my tap water leaves behind.
I also really like The Beauty Chef Probiotic Skin Refiner, but since it has lactic acid in the ingredients list, I don't know whether I can use it before Vitamin C or other active serums.
Edit to add, I also use the NIOD SDSM2 mist in the mornings after the Simple toner, and the Osmosis Boost in the evenings. I don't think of them as toners though. More like watery serums 🤷♀️
HAHA no judgement here hun as I dont mind the simple toners, the soothing one has some good actives in it and the hydrating one is simple but if it works for your skin then i would keep using it for sure.. I love the NIOD SDSM, I agree with you, I think it is more of a serum in water form than a toner as it has so so many benefits though you could use it as a standalone toner if you wanted.. I hope you had a wonderful weekend xx
I love watching your subs grow. So well deserved. ✨🎉✨🎉✨
Aww thank you so so much hun and thank you for all the support you give the channel xx
I just starting using a toner a couple days ago because almost everyone on UA-cam uses them. Thank you for the information 😄
Its a total pleasure hun and I am so glad you found the video useful.. Sending lots of love xx
I have mixed feeling on toners, ive uesed many good ones but at the ame time I feel like if I can make my routine more simpler, I will, the Kalira toners is great, im currently using a DIY green tea face mist, really greart for acne, im also interesting in the FAB ultra hydrating toner with oatmeal and the COSRX propolis toner and lastly the Benton green tea toner
I have a few toners I like but I don't necessarily feel I need them. It's just a fun extra step and can hydrate my skin for the next steps easily. I use them most days because I like how they make me feel.
Hi hun thank you so so much for watching and I hope all is good with you.. I totally agree with you and toners can be a lovely step which adds to your self care routine and make your routine seem a little more luxurious which I love xx
Hello hello Dear Rob 😘 I do like myself a toner and I always had 😛 I’ve actually been using Haruharu Wonder black rice toner since July ( funnily enough the one in James’s video since you referenced it ). I find it simply amazing! 👏 is very hydrating and it did help brighten my skin tone. Ordered it on iHerb for £15. I am pretty sure I mentioned Haruharu Wonder in one of my comments to you few weeks ago 😉 I must thank Felicia from Beauty Within as she discovered it and recommend it in several of their videos ☺️
Haha its so funny you should say that but I popped one on order when James mentioned it as it sounded really good so I cant wait to try it when it comes.. I hope all is wonderful with you and sending lots of love xx
I love that indie Lee toner and a lot of their products. my favorite toners right now are the isntree green tea toner and the im from rice toner but I'm always on the hunt for new ones that are hydrating since I'm on prescription retinol from my derm. loved this video!! :) can I also just say you look fab in glasses!
Aww thank you so so much thats so lovely of you to say .. I love the Indie Lee skincare range and I am trying lots of products from them xx
Serious topic indeed!🤭 Looking great as always!😉
I have a thirsty monster under my skin, I use I'm from Rice, it is soothing and calming and gives little hydration... And Im actually expecting the shipping of Pyunkang Yul essence toner and Missha Time Revolution's first treatment essence RX.. I plan to use them in the winter to help the hydration of my skin! I can't wait to try them and share thoughts with you!!💞🌹💞
Aww thank you so so much hun and I am excited to hear what you think when your shipment arrives as you have chosen some gorgeous brands I love.. I think winter is when a good toner comes into its own and can really help our skincare routines. Sending lots of love xx
First?!? I’m here for it all!!! Love it 🥰
Aww thank you so so much for watching hun and I hope your having an amazing start to the week xx
I used the Curél for a period and didn't realise how it helped my hydration. Really miss it. Thanks for giving me other options ☺️
Its a total pleasure hun and I am so so glad you found the video useful.. I agree with you that a good toner can add some amazing hydration to your skin and make your other products work so much better xx
My skin is generally dry and I find that within the 10 seconds it takes to pat my face dry and walk to my moisturizer, my face is already dry and (not tight but certainly not damp enough). So toners have been a Godsend for me.
Good Loooooooord!
The Facetheory do some amazing formulas. Thanks for the heads up 👏🏻
(Although they seem to love mixing Niacinamide & Vit-C, which goes against everything i've been taught) 😱
Haha I totally agree with you.. its easy to get a little addicted to FaceTheory.. I never have had a problem with vit c and niacinamide lol and use the two together all the time too xx
I've always thought that if you feel like you need to add a toner into your routine for hydration, your moisturiser is probably not rich enough. Toners have always seemed like a waste of money to me.
I do tend to agree with you that its a nice to have step and if your other steps are working good enough then you shouldnt need one.. I do like a toner sometimes to add a little luxury to my routine but its for enjoyment rather than any skincare benefit.. Sending lots of love xx
Not a toner recommendation. But if you love CoQ10 can I suggest you try timeless. It also has matrixyl 3000 in it. I love it.
Hi hun thank you so so much for your recommendation.. I havent tried that one but I love Q10 and so I will pop one on order as I love the look of it xx
My skin really likes the extra hydration from a toner or essence I'm loving the Missha time revolution essence at the moment.
Hi Sam I hope all is amazing with you.. I totally agree a toner can add a lovely extra level of hydration.. I havent tried the missha essence yet but its on order and taking ages to come lol,... I am getting impatient xx
Good question!! Hmm? I'm here to find out!! :D (before watching: don't use one ...) Post watching: oh turns out I *am* using one, semantic thing. I LOVE them. Wonderful review of some great ones to look at!
Aww thank you so so much hun and I hope your having a great start to the week.. I think there are a lot of people out there like you who are using one without actually knowing.. Sending lots of love xx
I have combination skin. I use an spf every day that is very moisturizing. I use a moisturizing toner as a first step moisturizer to keep my skincare lighter in weight, which I prefer.
Thank you so so much for sharing your tips and for watching xx
Perfect video as I am looking for a good hydrating mist toner for dry dehydrated skin that won't cause break outs. Any recommendations without fragrance. Thank you
Hi, thanks for the video. How would you recommend the use of organic rose water and aloe vera gel in your skincare routine? Thanks 🤗
Thank you so much for this video. I have dry/sensitive. I was wondering about witch hazel? My mum loves it.
Hi hun.. I get so many questions about witch hazel and its one of those topics which nobody can agree on.. I like it in skincare as i find it helps with my acne and its soothing to the skin but there is a chance it can irritate the skin in some people so I would use with caution and make sure you patch test first.. I hope this helps xx
I'm a bit mad about toners at the moment. In a morning I use first treatment essence, benton snail and bee skin toner and then pixi. On a night its first treatment essence and purito green level calming toner and pixi . Someone save me from myself!!
HAHA I dont think you need saving as all those products are lovely and I am sure your skin is loving them :) .. I love a good essence too they add a little luxury to the routine which I always love.. I hope all is amazing with you xx
@@MadAboutSkinwell I'm keeping on keeping on if you on own what I mean. I'm high risk for the dreaded lurgy and I'm losing the plot looking at the same four walls but other than that I can't complain! I'm amusing myself shopping online for skincare. I have to admit I'm using a ton of products at the moment but it's only because I love testing new things and I'm impatient. My skin has never looked so good. Now I can't change the acne scarring although it has improved but other then that I've had so many compliments lately I'm 34 now and the first time anyone has complimented me on my skin was last month! As for toners though, I have also just ordered the etude house soon jung toner along with a couple ot the other soon Jung products in the line. I hope all is well for yourself, family and friends also. Loving every one of your videos. They're a good time for me too as I'm in uk too (east Yorkshire) 🤗
@@LittleMissBettyPage I have also been home (since March) and it is finally staring to get to me a bit. My husband is a teacher, and is home teaching all day, so at least I have some company. I miss shopping and eating out the most. I am almost to the point that I'm just going to do it..... go out to a local store. I will probably go CRAZY buying things, LOL!!
So glad I saw this video!! ❤️❤️❤️
Aww thank you so so much hun and thank you for watching xx
I use Balea MED Ultra Sensitive toner. It has like only 8 ingredients, just to give a little bit of extra hydration
Thank you so much for sharing hun and for your recommendation... sending you lots of love xxxx
Loved the video, i think toner is not a must for all its a pampering product for my skin i started using Dear Klairs unscented supple toner it provides quite a good hydration, i have isntree HA Plus toner in skincare box waiting to try next week
Good molecules 👍🏼 been loving it and it’s ingredients are phenomenal;) niacinamide vitamin c and alpha arbutin a totally fab product and so comfortable under my spf 🧴
Wow that sounds amazing in terms of ingredients its like a routine in one but I havent tried it but I need to.. Thanks for watching and I hope all is amazing for you xx
@@MadAboutSkin thank you 😊
BTW I use and recommend the centella toner from Purito and the toner essence from Pyunkang Yul toners.
Hi hun thank you so so much for watching.. Thats such a good recommendation and one of my favourite from Purito for sure.. Sending lots of love xx
@@MadAboutSkin Love back at you and wish you are well and safe!
I'll be buying the Face Theory one!
Do you have or can you do a video about micellar water? I'm just confused as to what its for, if its helpful and id like to know your recommendations if you have any.
Hi hun thank you so so much for watching and I hope you had an amazing weekend.. I really hope you love the facetheory one as much as me :) its one of my go to products now.. I actually did a video on micellar water which can be found here so I hope this helps xx ua-cam.com/video/0ZT9GdXMJm8/v-deo.html
@@MadAboutSkin thank you so much! I appreciate you!
I don’t use toners very often, when I tried to challenge myself to use it straight for a month, I didn’t really feel the difference. Maybe it’s related to taking other quite moisturizing steps?
Is there any way to ask you to explain in a following video something specific about some skin concerns? 🤔
Hi hun I am happy to consider any videos you would find useful.. What did you have in mind? xxx
@@MadAboutSkin I have watched your video about blackheads and absolutely enjoyed it. Should skincare routine be the same when you try to get rid of whiteheads? 🤔
I heard a lot of good things about propolis. So I have the propolis synery toner form Cosrx on order. Very curious about the results for my skin (dry and sensitive)
Hey hun thank you so much for watching and propolis is wonderful and so good for hydration and soothing the skin.. Cant wait to hear what you think of it let me know what you think of it xxx
Ren ready steady glow toner, thoughts? Tempted to pick it up.
Hi hun, I love it.. I did a review on REN and share the thoughts on it in there and its one of my go to for sure.. I hope all is good with you and here is a link to the video in case you want to check it out xx ua-cam.com/video/r-KRGats3Jw/v-deo.html
@@MadAboutSkin omg I actually commented on that video, so sorry lol I’m good thanks, hope u are too ☺️
How would you rate Geek& Gorgeous toner compered to other toners like the korean ones(Klairs, Purito.etc)
P.s - Love your videos!
Aww thank you so so much Tim your super kind.. I love the Geek and Gorgeous toner.. Its lovely and hydrating so its good for people with sensitive and dry skin.. Have you tried it? xx
@@MadAboutSkin Haven't yet. Will do now as its MadAboutSkin approved! Thank you🔥
@@timjacob2518 Its a pleasure and here is a link to it if that helps.. I have been really imprssed with them as a company and their shipping is really good iaff.geekandgorgeous.com/125-12-3-16.html
Derma-e Skin firming DMAE toner, the only toner I have found absolutely yummy and I ordered it by mistake somehow.
Aww thank you so so much for watching and for the recommendation xx
How do you order something by mistake if you have to enter your credit card information? You didn't know you were entering this information? 🤷 Lol. Or maybe you thought it was a different product??
@@palestar828 I ordered the wrong product from the same company with a very similar name and fell in love with it.
we need to be mates! You are a hoot...
Aww thank you so so much thats super kind of you to say x
Love your videos but don’t think I can afford your channel! The FaceTheory Toner loves divine.
Haha I always try keep it as affordable as possible but I have totally fallen for NIOD and FaceTheory and am loving the brands so much though my wallet isnt lol xx
Rice water.. Green tea.. Centella.. Snail mucin.. Etc
All are great ingredients that can be added via a K or J toner!
Not the lame western ones 😅
Haha I agree with you, when it comes to toners Korea has some amazing ones to choose from though I am loving the UKs FaceTheory and their toner so much.. Thanks for watching xx
@@MadAboutSkin thanks for YOUR content 🌹
I am all about toners with a purpose. I’ve used Paula’s choice toner and Paula’s BHA and notice a big difference when I use one at a time vs together. I believe it does take the active ingredients to the next level to help the skin. Can’t do without it now with this aging skin 😀
Hey hun I am totally with you on this, if its with a purpose then a toner can be a great addition and I really need to try more of the toners form PC as I have only tried a few of them.. Thank you so so much for watching xx