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@@SPIDERAVENGER616 yeah like I felt like the Man in the shadow should have Norman Osborn since it’s feels like it was building up to him than Harry and Electro
@@BarbadosBeerFestival Agreed... Darker with the jokes instead of cartoonish like Carrey... People in poverty have this. If you eat this you will die. What is it?
@@duarteguedes1709 no bro. Malcolm’s voice as Two-Face is absolutely haunting and dare I say, badass! Malcolm really should do a cartoon series where he is able to voice act as a villain!
Yes and I hope they do What if there was no cult in Halloween the curse of Michael Myers before Halloween Kills and What if the invisible man was the Monster Squad as Dracula’s spy
Fun Fact: Tim Burton was actually okay with the idea of having Joel Schumacher direct Batman Forever. Heck, he even *chose* Joel Schumacher to direct Batman Forever.
The voice imitations were on point. Keaton's accent was a bit too thick for his Bruce, but Robin Williams...truly well done. It made me miss him even more.
The Keaton voice does need a bit of work but whoever did Robin Williams Riddler did a fantastic job. Malcolm also did a terrific job as Two Face. It's both terrifying and tragic. It's how Two Face/Harvey Dent should be. It's definitely a huge improvement over Tommy Lee Jones's silly pathetic excuse of a Two Face in Schumacher's version of Batman Forever. It's just how I imagined Billy Dee Williams as Two Face if he returned.
"Who the hell are you supposed to be?" "Robin" "That's the stupidest name I've ever heard" "Beats Edward" Oh, oh, the humor and irony in that. Wow, that's funny 😄
The original writing is way better than what they mysteriously decided to keep from the Schumacher Movie despite totally changing the story so many lines do no longer make sense ("what man has a bat on his mind" came directly from Nygma seeing Bruce's "subconscious thoughts")
If this was a reality it might've been one of the most praised Robin Williams performances ever maybe even up there with Genie but hey I hope in another dimension where this actually happens there enjoying it R.I.P Robin Williams (We'll never have a friend like you again)
I miss Robin Williams, he was everyone's favorite uncle, and the world is a little dimmer since he passed. I hope he has found peace where ever he wound up, RIP Robin Williams, we miss you.
The Robin Williams imitation here was perfect! In fact, given how dark this version is, I'd want him to be even funnier! (Not Jim Carrey funnier, mind you, but still funnier.)
I can't help but make the comparison between this potential version of the Riddler and Heath Ledger's Joker, in that they were both amazing actors, who took a character who was largely associated with camp and made them both Oscar worthy and utterly terrifying to watch
It gives me the “One Hour Photo” and “Insomnia” vibes. It shows that those movies proved that Williams can have a dark side to his performances than comedy
He's not scary. He doesn't fit the Burton Batman world. Johnny Depp is. Robin Williams was a stand-up guy. Of course he did dramatic things and thriller things, but he doesn't fit in the Burton Batman world.
@@gordontims1999 he's actually Joel Schumacher's original choice for The Riddler before Jim Carrey was cast. If you get into the Burton Batman 3 rumors, somebody's gonna kick your ass. You got it?
@@Ian-hj4yt Yeah. I mean, they went from a bit goofy to be sure, but a bit more adult version, which in some ways felt like a longer version of a joker episode of the animated series, to something a complete satire of itself with the next 2 films... Adam west version was fine, but it was intentionally stupid and silly because that's the market they were aiming for was kids. People loved the animated and Michael Keaton films because it didn't treat us like kids anymore.. They gave us depth of character and plot intrigue. That gave way to just more silliness immediately. Which is a shame too because Mr. Freeze in tge animated series won academy awards for it's voice work and animation.
@@Deadchannel1737 Totally. Not everything is supposed to be kid friendly. Seriously, who would let their kids watch south park just because it's 'animated?' I love the darker stuff. (Darker as in more serious and not campy) Yeah, the second batman film (first Keaton film) had some camp to it, but it took itself serious enough to appreciate the adult audience as well. Like An American Tale. Yeah, it was technically for kids, but jeez. That no cars in America song had a lot of broken up bits of tragic moments in it, and all the places Fivel ended up going to had a lot of depressing themes. But that's what I enjoyed about it. Like Doug says at the beginning of the dark toons episodes, it made me feel more grown up having watched it because of all that stuff he went through. Give us more mask of the phantasm showing Bruce essentially punishing himself thinking he foesn't deserve any joy in his life after losing his parents. Give us more of the conflict between Flagg and Peacemaker in The Suicide Squad squaring of the questioning whether it's right or wrong to hide info from the masses for the sake of temporary peace between nations. I absolutely love stuff like that.
I really wish Burton’s Batman Forever happened, Robin Williams as the riddler and Billy D. Williams as Two-Face woulda been amazing. And of course Keaton as Batman
I just now realized that Edward had that breakdown not because his heart was broken, but because the answer was literally sitting right under his nose and he was utterly fooled like any normal person would be
This is nonsense. Robin Williams as The Riddler would not be the One Hour Photo/Insomnia Robin Williams. He would be the same over the top/flamboyant Riddler as was in the final film. And it was Joel Schumacher who wanted Robin Williams as The Riddler, and The Batchlers wrote The Riddler with Williams in mind. Williams read the screenplay for Batman Forever and he loved it. Due to a salary dispute, they made an offer to Jim Carrey and Williams found out about it when he read it in the trades, according to Ben Wan (The man who knows too much about Batman) and Andrew Bush on Superhero Stuff You Should Know.
@@evanzaremba4722 Screw you, this would've been a million times better. This movie still would've been crap no matter who played Riddler and "One Hour Photo/Insomnia Robin Williams" would've been absolutely perfect. You apparently don't seem to understand that this show doesn't care about real-life circumstances and simply tries to make the best possible story.
@@dylanmaldet6643 Channel Awesome doesn't know about real-life circumstances, but they will. I believe what Ben and Andrew said on their podcast, because they interview the people that worked on the Batman movies, including movement double Carl Newman, Tim Flattery, and many others.
@@evanzaremba4722 Nobody cares about real-life crap like that. They make this show and I watch this show for purposes of entertainment and I don't appreciate you spoiling our fun with with all this needless nitpicking.
Rob's impression of Robin Williams is brilliant and the recreation of his style of humour and mannerism is on point. For large bits I felt I was experiencing some of his routines again. Good job! (Yeah, we miss him so much.)
This is my new official Batman Forever. As far as I’m concerned the real one never happened and this one did. It’s insane how well you describe this, I can practically see it perfectly in my head.
@@LordMalice6d9 no it wasn’t. He was already cast as Riddler just like Billy Dee Williams was set to be Twoface and Michael Keaton was cast to be Batman etc. the whole cast was ready to go and Tim Burton was gonna direct it. But that version was called off do to McDonald’s feeling “Uncomfortable” after the previous film Batman Returns being too graphic with the Penguin puking up green slime, they couldn’t sell happy meal toys like that so Warner Bros told Burton to step down as director and when they replaced him with Joel Schumacher, the whole cast was replaced also. Robin Williams was pissed, because he was already gonna be Joker in Batman 1989 but was replaced with Jack Nicholson
@@nsasupporter7557 actually, it wasn't Burton who want to do a third film, though he had ideas, WB doesn't want him to do another one. So he hired Schumacher to direct, because I watch Schumacher's interview and he said to Charlie Rose that he would do it if Burton wanted him to do it. And I listen to an interview with The Batchlers that it was Schumacher who wanted Michael Keaton to come back as Batman, before Val Kilmer was cast. And Schumacher already knew he wanted Tommy Lee Jones for Two-Face, which it had happened, and it was not Tim Burton who wanted Robin Williams for The Riddler, it was Joel Schumacher who wanted Robin Williams to play The Riddler before Jim Carrey was cast.
@@nsasupporter7557 it's just a made-up title. Don't believe in the internet these days. If you believe in the internet still, I'll kick your ass if you do such a thing.
There's a fan edit that approximates this called Batman Forever: Redbook Edition. The entire film is recolored to match Burton's style, as well as trimming some of the sillier lines and scenes to make it more serious. It also reincorporates cut content like showing Two-Face's escape from Arkham.
I really think Tim Burton's BATMAN FOREVER would be best if it opened with the Arkham scene. That was great! Although I'd prefer the message written in blood not be "THE BAT MUST DIE" but "THEY ALL WILL PAY." It would leave a bit of mystery as to who "they" are. And then we'd find out that Two-Face was targeting the Mayor and all the other city officials, just like in the Nolan films and in this very FanScription.
This is literally one of the best things I've ever heard, this is what we should've gotten, and this is from someone who likes batman forever (it's an underrated gem imo)
Actually, he would be the same over the top/flamboyant Riddler as was in the final film. The Batchlers, along with director Joel Schumacher, had the Batman Forever script tailored to Robin Williams and his comedic delivery before it went to Jim Carrey.
I'm genuinely impressed by this fanscription. They managed to turn the "I'll get drive-thru" line from commercial fluff into a line of frustration and bitterness. Very good job.
The idea of Robin Williams being The Riddler and doing that mental breakdown is the most terrifying thing I think I've ever heard. I _want_ this reality where Tim Burton's Batman Forever happens.
Actually, it doesn't exist. It was Joel Schumacher who wanted Robin Williams for The Riddler. Lee and Janet Scott Batchler wrote The Riddler with Robin Williams in mind, and he would be the same over the top/flamboyant Riddler as was in the final film. Due to a salary dispute, the role went to Jim Carrey.
@@MineKurtMininer nope. He wouldn't be the One Hour Photo/Insomnia Robin Williams. He'll be the same over the top/flamboyant Riddler as was in the final film, played by Jim Carrey. Check out The unmade versions of The Riddler: Who is Lyle Heckondorf on Superhero Stuff You Should Know. That's what I'm explaining to you.
That line puzzled me. Sure, Batman "created" the Joker. But Oswald Cobblepot's parents created the Penguin. Max Shreck created Catwoman. And - in this version, at least - the Penguin created Two-Face. Why does Bruce feel he has to take all the blame?
@@SeasideDetective2 The guilt is that Batman believes his very presence is causing all this suffering. If this crusade is to make things better, why are things getting worse?
@@callumjames7854 You can stop with the Bat Credit Card Joke now. Linkara had put that joke to *Rest....in.....Peace.........(Undertaker's Theme plays in the background)*
It's such a shame Robin Williams is no longer with us, I would have loved to see him as Nygma with this character motivation. I really enjoyed this and to be fair it should be converted into a DC animated original because of how different it is from Schumachers movie and have the likenesses for the fans to appreciate what it could have been if Tim wasn't fired from the directors chair.
The Riddler in Tim Burton's Batman world would be Johnny Depp. Besides, it was Joel Schumacher who wanted Robin Williams for The Riddler. Lee and Janet Scott Batchler wrote The Riddler with Robin Williams in mind. He would be the same over the top/flamboyant Riddler as was in the final film. Due to a salary dispute, the role went to Jim Carrey and Williams found out about it when he read it in the trades.
@@MrBlueSkyof1607 that's also a rumor. Burton had never used Riddler in his films. Because he's into German expressionism. His friend Schumacher used Riddler in his films, because he wanted it to be a living comic book.
59:11 so deep! All the events that occurred during the series Bruce realizes Joker, Penguin, Catwoman and even Two-Face he feels he’s just as responsible for them causing chaos in the city as much as they are responsible for provoking Batman out to fight wars.
The fact the “riddler” is already a established character and Edward Nygma based his villain ego off of that riddler, also imagine a comic panel implying whomever created the original riddler character sues Edward Nygma over his use of the Riddler
@@TRTMN-vs3ew or the original creator of the riddler was already long dead and nygma saw it as an opportunity to use the name for himself and since the original creator was already dead hey free real estate on the name
There was never a villain called the riddler. In the story it’s a name of a jester clown type person. Edward Nygma is the only bad guy who called himself the riddler.
Technecly with the catwoman cameo. This opens you guys up to reinmagine the Catwoman solo movie and having it about her skipping town after confessing to the murder of the Ice Princess.
If Robin Williams was alive and saw this along with hearing this phenomenal impression of him as the Riddler, he'd be over the moon to see this little fanon depiction of *Batman Forever*
@@evanzaremba4722 STOP acting like you're better than everyone else and stealing other people's art on DA and putting them up as if they're your own, THEN people would respect you. NOT A GOOD LOOK
@@crazyalarmstudios2012 I know, it's just that I'm sick of seeing this ego stroking motherfucker 'correcting' people while in reality. He's showing his ass to the entire world and being the biggest dickhead of all dickheads
Take notes people, this is a prime example of when the fans put more time and effort into a beloved super hero franchise than the mega corporate that owns the rights to said heroes and put out a better product than they ever will.
In the Back to the Future Part IV Fanscription, a deleted scene reveals Doc also mailed letters to Ivan Reitman and Tim Burton to assure the Fanscription versions of Ghostbusters II and Batman Forever were made.
I'm completely BLOWN AWAY! This is OUTSTANDING! The script, the stars, the voices (especially Michael Keaton, Robin Williams, UNCANNY! 😱) I can picture it all so vividly. It's like my mind created the whole scenes as you guys read the script. Where were you guys in 1994-95 when this should have been made!??? BRAVO! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Joel Schumacher was to make Batman Forever with Michael Keaton and Robin Williams, since he had Tommy Lee Jones already. There's a salary dispute between Keaton and Williams and they insist having both Val Kilmer and Jim Carrey.
Robin Williams was actually Joel Schumacher's original choice for The Riddler in Batman Forever. These Burton Batman 3 rumors are nonsense. Schumacher talked to Williams about playing The Riddler back in 1993, before Jim Carrey was cast.
I thought it was neat how in this version of Batman Forever, Riddler is the one who died while Two Face is the one who lives and forgets that Bruce Wayne is Batman.
This was fucking brilliant and really sad at the same time, I miss Robin Williams and what he brought to many of us, this truly has made my day as a fan of the burton Batman’s, I pictured all of this playing out like a real movie, and I love the Batman forever movie but this concept would of been 100x more great in my opinion. RIP Robin Williams 🌹
Actually, he doesn't fit the Burton Batman world. Johnny Depp is, because Burton work with Depp on Edward Scissorhands, Ed Wood, Sleepy Hollow, Charlie and The Chocolate Factory, Corpse Bride, Sweety Todd, Alice in Wonderland, and Dark Shadows. Tim Burton's friend Joel Schumacher actually talk to Robin Williams about playing The Riddler, because he, like Schumacher, was a Batman fan, and he said that playing The Riddler would be very nify, and The Batchlers wrote it with his voice in mind. Williams read the screenplay and he wanted to do it. Due to a salary dispute, the role went to Jim Carrey (The Cable Guy). Williams found out about it when he was reading the trades.
@@darthmalins4950 to you? Yes. But to me? No. Joel Schumacher doesn't want Billy Dee Williams as Two-Face. He found him too heroic like Clark Gable. That's why he cast Tommy Lee Jones in the role, because I read Schumacher's interview in an old magazine article from 1995.
Not necessarily. HighTop Films did a really extensive breakdown of some of the things that Schumocker went through while making Forever. There exists a director's cut of practically a whole different movie. Turns out that WB/DC had been screwing over directors loooooooong before Snyder and Whedon. Truthfully they've been doing it since Richard Donner, but I digress. lol
@@OgIKidd yeah but let’s face it, it sucks that arguably the most interesting Bruce Wayne is Michael Keaton. In both movies he’s very quiet but carries this presence of such emotional baggage without ever sulking up about it.
@@OgIKidd and unlike Tim Burton, Joel Schumacher was a die hard Batman fan and had wanted to continue Burton’s style in the third film, but Warner Bros. was still dealing with the backlash and controversy of Batman Returns and they wanted heavily pushed to make Batman Forever “toy-etic” according to Schumacher. In fact it was a similar instance that cause Tim Burton to depart from his canceled Superman film. On Howard Stern he talked about how Warner Bros. was already badgering him about what the characters where gonna look like for the toys, t-shirts etc. but nobody had been cast.
@@OgIKidd and actually what happened with Richard Donner/Superman 2 was not really DC’s fault or even Warner Bros. for that matter. It was more producers Alexander & Ilya Salkind and Pierre Spangler that made the film “production hell” for Donner and where constantly at each other’s throats. They constantly told Donner he was “over budget” but they never gave him a budget and that he was “over scheduled” but was never given a schedule. It got to the point where Donner had to ban all three from the set. Finally when it came to finishing Superman 2, they fired him. In fact writer Tom Mankiewicz joked “If the first film had bombed, the Salkinds [producers] would’ve made Dick come back to finish the second one as punishment.”
@@charles1203 that's why is due to a salary dispute. Joel Schumacher asked Robin Williams to play The Riddler as Lee and Janet Scott Batchler wrote it with his voice in mind and he felt bad that he couldn't get the role and that's why they cast Jim Carrey in the role and he won acclaim playing the Riddler role and that's one of the best performances I've seen of a comic book villain.
Well, its official. Whenever i do a Batman marathon. I watch Batman, Batman Returns, then these fanscriptions, then move on to the nolan films. Some may dismiss fanfiction as 'not real' but good writing is good writing and this video in particular is one of the best Batman stories ever written.
If Schumacher had made another Batman film, it was going to be called "Batman Triumphant". The main villain was going to be Scarecrow, and he was going to somehow resurrect the dead Joker.
Not only was this amazingly well constructed from the concept up, but also polished to a mirror sheen in terms of presentation and performance. This is beyond fan-fiction. I was enthralled because it felt like so much more than just photoshopped stills and script reading. It was incredible.
@@evanzaremba4722 Ehh, not as much as you acting like a know-it-all asswipe. Then again, your mother left you to your own devices. Sad really, STOP STEALING PEOPLE'S ART AND ACTING LIKE AN ASS IF YOU WANT PEOPLE TO LIKE YOU :)
Robin Williams would’ve been a good choice for Riddler, but I think Jim Carrey could still work in Burton’s vision of Riddler. Much like Williams, Carrey has a dark, twisted, demented sense of humor that would’ve been amazing in Burton’s version of Batman Forever.
@@evanzaremba4722 Robin Williams could do comedy & drama flawlessly. If you watch Mrs Doubtfire & Good Will Hunting back to back, you'll see how much range he had. He would've been superb as The Riddler.
@@MineKurtMininer you see, Burton's Batman 3 were just rumors. Batman Forever didn't start out as a Tim Burton project. It was always Joel Schumacher's baby. Burton's only involvement with Forever is to hire his friend Schumacher to direct and he help hiring Lee and Janet Scott Batchler to write the screenplay.
Third time watching this and the work put in on the tragedy or Batman and Robins lives and the rage that defines them was incredible! This brought those characters down to earth. Two face was given a proper characterization as well… overall this was excellent 11/10 !!
This is amazing. A full feature-length story! The voice acting was impressive too, it's like getting a glimpse of Robin Williams in the best role he never played. And you say you may do Tim Burton's Batman and Robin? Cool, can't wait to see where you take it!
Obviously, WB used Robin Williams as bait to trick Jack Nicholson into the role of The Joker in 1989's Batman. Joel Schumacher called up Williams and asked in to play The Riddler in 1995's Batman Forever. Due to a salary dispute, they cast Jim Carrey.
I much prefer this version of Riddler that actually seems to take him seriously as a threat. For some reason, in the movies, Riddler was always played super OTT and I always preferred the more subtle and calculating versions from Gotham or even Batman The Telltale Series.
Villians last words Joker: "you wouldn't hit a guy with glasses would ya?" Penguin: "but first, I need a cold drink, of ice water..." Riddler: "do you see me now old man?, you will..."
Double correction: The Joker's were "Sometimes I just kill myself!", though it did sound like to me, he might've said "Woah" just before falling (Nonetheless, I still think the former is great for his last line).
It’s kind of ironic if you think about it because most of there last words have to do with there deaths and past events they’ve experienced Joker said have a nice fall then fell to his death getting the last laugh because of the laughing bag Penguin said he needs a cold drink of ice water then when he dies his penguins put him in the very cold water Then riddler said do you see me now old man. You will… mostly because of his past abuse with his father
If Patrick Stewart played Freeze, who should play secondary antagonist? Poison Ivy or Bane? If Bane, I think Danny Trejo would be great, especially after Desperado and From Dusk 'Til Dawn!
The weird thing about Joel Schumacher is that he was a perfect choice to direct a third Batman film, as he was gifted at doing dark thrillers such as Flatliners, The Lost Boys, The Client and Falling Down, but he chose to make campy Batman films. With that said, I do hope Burton returns with Keaton for an actual third film. Keaton will be a huge selling factor for The Flash, so I hope WB sees the light and gives him a final solo film.
@@yortlebluzzgubbly3871 that was Tim Burton who hired Joel Schumacher to direct the third film. Because Schumacher can't make this movie without him, because they're friends.
Man this was absolutely amazing!!!! I would love to see Tim Burtons Superman Lives! Also I could here “Kiss from a rose” as two face approached Grace with the rose in his hand!
Then Batman’s legacy would live on without a flawed Batman forever and a god awful Batman and Robin. Well now that I think about it, the way this could affect Nolans trilogy is something I should think about
@@AceTheSkylord yeah but then we would never get to see Micheal Caine as Alfred or Heath Ledger as joker who btw are the most legendary casting choices ever
@@jackrodakthemovieguy1726 Exactly. Chances are we would have seen a live action Batman Beyond movie with Keaton's Bruce Wayne training Terry McGinnis instead of the Nolan Trilogy
To be fair this was clearly inspired by Nolan's version, Batman hunted by the cops after the second film, bruce stopping going out as batman for a time and becoming a recluse, and a mad bomber villian, who goes from cheap pipe bombs to a city wide terror spree once they get mob support, Nolan's influence is everywhere. Frankly in a universe where this was made I would think the next reboot/incarnation of the character would be more fantastic and over the top, Maybe Nolan would have leaned more into the supernatural side of Raas Al'Ghul's character, Play up the immortal villian with a cause angle, or lean more into the sci fi angle with villians like freeze who only work due to comic book science. Nolan's trilogy was the most gritty and "realistic" batman, villians didn't go for huge gag themed threats, Joker puting a bomb in a jack in the box, scarecrow using pumpkins etc, wouldn't fit in nolan's take, but this version of Forever went in that direction a bit, so veering into other "flavors" feels right for any future incarnations, as long as you don't go full camp like adam west or somaker's other batman film, that could work for a cartoon or a series, but not for a modern movie take. Maybe it would be like the Arkham games, dark tones using sci fi tech to facilitate grand villian plots, probably using villians that haven't been used before, Like Black mask, or that were used poorly, Like Bane (I liked Nolan's bane fine but it would be very interesting to see what he wouuld be like in this hypothetical universe, and he wasn't used much in other tv or theatrical releases.) I could see a Nolan Batman using part of Arkham Orgin's plot for example, Black mask in particular is a great villian for blurring the line between mobster and Supervillian. Hush and Dr. Hugo Strange would be interesting foes as well, though ideally in settings where there are a lot of other villians to bounce off of, or at least are implied to exist.
Actually, it was Joel Schumacher who wanted Robin Williams to play The Riddler in Batman Forever. Lee and Janet Scott Batchler wrote The Riddler with Robin Williams in mind, since they already had Tommy Lee Jones as Two-Face. In the first two drafts written by the Batchlers, they gave Riddler the name of Lyle Heckendorf, not Edward Nygma. His company was not NygmaTech. His name was Lyle Heckendorf. So the name of the company was HeckTech. And Joel came up with a scene that was not in the final film where Lyle stalks Bruce Wayne and Chase Meridian at the circus, where they're about to see the Graysons die, and in order to get closer to Bruce, Lyle stole clothes from a fortune telling leprechaun, which form the basis of the Riddler outfit. And in the same script, he has magenta hair. The Batchlers knew somebody who had worked with Robin and knew Robin that somebody talked to him about it. He read the script. He loved it. He wanted to do it. And his agency said, "Don't worry. They'll have to come to you. Nobody else in town who does what you do." And his management said to Warner Bros., "If Michael Keaton is getting $15 million and the percentage of the gross and the percentage of merchandising, we'll be asking for our client too?" And Warner Bros. have a heavy heart and said "Alright, forget the percentage of the gross, we're spending $30 million on the two actors and we didn't start filming until September. Let's think about recasting." And they made an offer to Jim Carrey that we get, and Robin found out about it when he read it in the trades. It also said that WB used Robin to trick Jack Nicholson into playing The Joker in the 1989 Batman film.
Batman Forever is my favorite Bat-flick and there's only a few things I would have changed (make Robin a kid, give Sugar & Spice an ending, and have Two-Face be more lowkey villain). But I really liked this. Good job making Riddler' character darker without making him grim.
That was fucking beautiful. I mean honestly it felt less like conjecture about Tim Burton's version and more like just if you wrote it yourself, but I don't really care because this actually felt *better* than if Burton wrote it. Burton notably didn't care about Robin, and I'm not sure his Two-Face would've been as sympathetic and well written as he was here (given the issues his Penguin had, although a good deal of that was due to the script). I'm admittedly not sure how I feel about how Grace became the center of a love square between Harvey, Bruce, and Edward (still deciding how I feel about her kissing Bruce), but at least she wasn't fridged here, and she actually fulfilled her role as the one person who can finally bring Harvey back from the darkness! I also just enjoyed the hell out of your Riddler take. He was deluded, with his own set of standards, refusing to let Two-Face kill the Bat if he didn't solve the riddle first. The way he manipulated Two-Face and challenged Batman's wits was brilliant, and I really loved how he simply accepted his death, thinking he had finally won. Your Two-Face was also just absolutely wonderful. He wasn't just a generic evil guy like he was in Forever, but someone with justified motivation for hunting Batman as well as the other officials. You nailed just why he's such a great threat by establishing him as someone who knows the law inside and out, and also can easily persuade people into his gang. The ending of your script was just heartbreaking, but I'm glad you chose to actually let Harvey reform rather than die. Your take on Bruce as an introspected, tortured man was wonderful, and you even managed to make Robin feel justified and helpful without being annoying about it. Great work overall, I would've loved it if this had been the real movie we got!
Everyone is talking about the Robin Williams impression (which IS spot one) and Michael Keaton but can we take a moment to appreciate the Two-Face impression!! Man….You guys did great on this…I can’t stop watching it! Yes can we get a Tim Burton Batman and Robin (What If)
The great thing about this channel is that they don't always make fun of stuff. They do try to "fix" some things. I think Robin Williams would be proud. I'm on board for a Tim Burton Batman 4.
I’m just now realizing that DC should do a Riddler movie that is like Saw. It would be smaller, cheap, you could even make it Rated R and it could be pretty profitable. It could even be in the same universe but without needing to shoehorn other characters.
DC/Warner should just ditch that botched attempt at a samey Marvel-ripoff that became the DCEU. Instead offer standalone movies with a unique style each to different talented script writers and directors and let each of them run with it given total creative freedom to reinvent shit. That's the strength of having a multiverse after all: Not having the need of matching everything; having the freedom to colour each world differently, Batman dark, Wonder Woman periodical, Harley Quinn manically bright, Shazam like an oldschool kid's adventure movie, Aquaman teeming with quirky fishies, Joker once like a tragic clown, and once like a bipolar crime lord. Relaunch and recreate instead of rinse and repeat!
Fun fact: In Batman Forever (1995) more than 100 Batman and Robin costumes were created to allow for the range of stunts, from underwater scenes, to scenes involving fire and extreme fighting.
it's unfortunate that subplot ends in the hallway, Did anyone else think it shouldn't have ended there? Maybe Grace finds out Edward was the Riddler or she finds that heart puzzle box/mangled rose in the garbage, then realizes it was for her from him and she and Bruce made him feel like crap.
Yeah it’s known as Dramatic Irony, it’s when the audience is aware of something that a character isn’t. An example is if Character A is waiting for character B to show up, but the Audience seen Character B die 3 chapters ago.
I don't know how y'all got this all together, but seriously impressive. Felt insanely real, and that Robin Williams impression is scarily good. Wish we could have seen this, but this was the next best thing.
Damn what's up with Warner Bros and not letting the directors realise their vision...do they have some criteria that you have to be a douche and an idiot to be on the board of executives or something?
Now, I’m someone who actually likes the original version of the film (really as a dumb fun kind of movie), but I have always wondered what Burton would have done. I wouldn’t mind Burton to actually do a third live action film with Batman, perhaps a Burton-style adaptation of Dark Knight Returns?
I remember absolutely loving BATMAN FOREVER when I was a teenager! It's a perfectly paced action film and strikes a good balance between darkness and light. I didn't even mind seeing Jim Carrey and Tommy Lee Jones camp it up so much; my opinion has always been that you can make the villains as wacky as you want as long as the hero is dead serious.
Big fan of Tim Burton’s two Batman movies here and always wondered what his third one might have looked like. A huge round of applause for the people behind the art, story and voices. Robin Williams’ Riddler looked menacing and Billy Dee Williams’ Two-Face was spot on. I wouldn’t be surprised if I found out that it was actually Michael Keaton’s voice in the video. Great stuff, everyone! I hope Burton sees this video. His take on Batman was superior on various fronts.
Actually, it was Joel Schumacher who wanted Robin Williams for The Riddler. Lee and Janet Scott Batchler wrote The Riddler with Robin Williams in mind, and he would be the same over the top/flamboyant Riddler as was in the final film. Due to a salary dispute, the role went to Jim Carrey. As for Two-Face, Schumacher doesn't want Billy Dee Williams for it, because he found him too heroic like Clark Gable. That's why he cast Tommy Lee Jones in the role. And it was Schumacher who wanted Michael Keaton to come back as Batman before Val Kilmer was cast.
Somebody needs to do a cartoon animation of this along with your version of Batman 89’ And Returns. I love this reimagining of Batman Forever. Do Tim Burton’s Batman and Robin next. Patrick Stewart as Mr. Freeze, Gina Davis as poison ivy, and Arnold Schwarzenegger as Bane
@@xavierramirez1911 you say that like it's a good thing.... Bale was the least accurate Batman ever put to screen, as was every character in those films except maybe two-face and catwoman.
@@SA80TAGE i say it like its a good thing because, well, it pretty much is lol. and what exactly makes bale's batman inaccurate? the fact that its more grounded and realistic which was literally the whole point? cuz im pretty sure clooney's batman was not accurate to any batman comic whatsoever.
@@xavierramirez1911 Actually the fact it's more grounded and realistic is exactly what makes it inaccurate... Batman doesn't just take on normal mob bosses and crazy clowns you know, ever heard of ClayFace? Man-Bat? Killer Croc? Poison Ivy? Seems you are the one that misses the point. Batman is not realistic just because he doesn't have powers you know, the point of Batman is that he is a regular (albeit peak condition) human going up against mutant monsters, aliens, demons, gods. Oh and not only was Clooney the only live action Batman that never actually killed anyone in his movie, his movie is basically a homage to the 60's era of comics and tv show... so yeah, even he is more accurate than Bale😂👍
No, because Batman Forever never started out as a Tim Burton project. It was always Joel Schumacher's baby, according to Ben Wan (The Man Who Knows Too Much About Batman) and Andrew Bush on Superhero Stuff You Should Know. And according to their interview with Lee and Janet Scott Batchler, Tim Burton's only involvement with Batman Forever was to hire his friend Joel Schumacher as director, and helping out hiring the Batchlers to write the screenplay, and that's why in the opening credits of Batman Forever, Burton was credited as producer. And there's the Batman 89 comic in hardcover, but were based on unused ideas that Sam Hamm had for the first two Batman films.
Daaaamn, Son! What a hell of talent you guys offer. Voice Acting, the script, the pictures and animations. Awesome work! Pretty witty and how it should be.
Robin Williams as the Riddler is intruiging. A man so well known for a lot of his more happy and upbeat roles, to imagine him in a dark role like the riddled is incredibly interesting and Id would have loved to see where his improvisation would have taken the role.
I don't think so. He would be a comedic one, because Robin Williams was a stand-up guy. Joel Schumacher asked Robin Williams to play The Riddler, before Jim Carrey was cast. Check out an interview with Schumacher on Charlie Rose and an interview with The Batchlers on Superhero Stuff You Should Know.
@@Aaron-zt5ee WB used Williams as bait to trick Jack Nicholson into the role of The Joker in 1989's Batman. Then Joel Schumacher asked Williams to play The Riddler in Batman Forever, and Lee and Janet Scott Batchler wrote The Riddler with Robin Williams in mind. According to an interview with The Batchlers on Superhero Stuff You Should Know, it was due to a salary dispute. Williams wanted too much money with Michael Keaton, and Warner Bros and Schumacher decided to go with Jim Carrey instead.
I'm only a few minutes in, but when Walter said "Robin Williams as The Riddler", I just lost it. That would've been amazing!!! EDIT: At 1:20:21 that's Jumbo from Killer Klowns From Outer Space!!!
@Tom Edwards Indeed. Now that you mention it, it kinda reminds me of how Gene Siskel in a childish hissy fit published the home address of the director and lead actress of a movie he didn't like, so his mindless drone readers would go and harass them - over a movie. It was like a Dox move before it was a thing.
IT'S HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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What if Tim Burton Directed Batman and Robin?
Please do What if there was no cult in Halloween the curse of Michael Myers before Halloween kills
What if Tom and Jerry movie was better
What if the Invisible man was in the monster squad as Dracula’s spy
What if Superman doesn’t have the time manipulation powers in the first movie and what if Brainiac was in Superman 3
What if Roxanne Richie gets powers instead of Hal Stewart in Megamind
What if Feathers McGraw was Wallace and Grommet the curse of WereRabbit
What if Thanos was behind Civil War and Ragnarok?
Can you do what if rob schinder was in grown ups 2
What if the amazing spider man 2 was good
@@SPIDERAVENGER616 yeah like I felt like the Man in the shadow should have Norman Osborn since it’s feels like it was building up to him than Harry and Electro
"Who are you?"
"Robin."
"That's a stupid name!"
Genius, since ROBIN Williams says it!!!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂👍🏻
Beats Edward!
Ooooooh!
Robin Williams would have been the perfect riddler
@@BarbadosBeerFestival Agreed... Darker with the jokes instead of cartoonish like Carrey...
People in poverty have this. If you eat this you will die. What is it?
Haha... I didn't catch that. Brilliant.
Malcom's voice as Two-Face is absolutely terrifying. Fantastic. Malcom's voice is pure gold.
I love Malcom, he should do audiobooks or something lmao.
I think it's better than what Billy Dee Williams would have done.
Facts really captivating!
Just my opinion.. But i think it's generic and sounds the same in every character he does..
@@duarteguedes1709 no bro. Malcolm’s voice as
Two-Face is absolutely haunting and dare I say, badass! Malcolm really should do a cartoon series where he is able to voice act as a villain!
I WOULD'VE PAID TO SEE THIS VERSION!!!!!
R.I.P. ROBIN WILLIAMS
7/21/1951 - 8/11/2014
You will be missed.
How else would you have seen it? You would’ve paid regardless, to watch the movie. Idiot…
Same but ofcorse with Robin Williams dead unfortunately it might not happen
A comic of this version of the movie could be made
@@dreademperor2094 True :3
@@dylanthebiguy yep
The fanscription we needed and the fanscription we all deserved.
Yes and I hope they do What if there was no cult in Halloween the curse of Michael Myers before Halloween Kills and What if the invisible man was the Monster Squad as Dracula’s spy
Fun Fact: Tim Burton was actually okay with the idea of having Joel Schumacher direct Batman Forever. Heck, he even *chose* Joel Schumacher to direct Batman Forever.
@@srstriker6420 there's also the curse of the bat nipples
@@ClockWithoutNumbers haha
I agree.
Ok, using the kid actor from Jumanji to play young Robin Williams was a genius move. Congrats, guys!
Oh, I didn't notice that, awesome!
@@ninjabluefyre3815 me neither!!!
and his mother is Lorraine Bracco, and the version of her he is using is from Goodfellas
Thanks for pointing that out
Eh who cares
The voice imitations were on point. Keaton's accent was a bit too thick for his Bruce, but Robin Williams...truly well done. It made me miss him even more.
That was actually Joel Schumacher's attempt to get Michael Keaton and Robin Williams in the film, because he already had Tommy Lee Jones.
@Takeo Masaki you?
The Keaton voice does need a bit of work but whoever did Robin Williams Riddler did a fantastic job. Malcolm also did a terrific job as Two Face. It's both terrifying and tragic. It's how Two Face/Harvey Dent should be. It's definitely a huge improvement over Tommy Lee Jones's silly pathetic excuse of a Two Face in Schumacher's version of Batman Forever. It's just how I imagined Billy Dee Williams as Two Face if he returned.
@@Paul91- I don't care. That was too dark.
@@Paul91- yea the breathing after every word is cringe
"Who the hell are you supposed to be?"
"Robin"
"That's the stupidest name I've ever heard"
"Beats Edward"
Oh, oh, the humor and irony in that. Wow, that's funny 😄
He just got burned.
Priceless
The original writing is way better than what they mysteriously decided to keep from the Schumacher Movie despite totally changing the story so many lines do no longer make sense ("what man has a bat on his mind" came directly from Nygma seeing Bruce's "subconscious thoughts")
If this was a reality it might've been one of the most praised Robin Williams performances ever maybe even up there with Genie but hey I hope in another dimension where this actually happens there enjoying it
R.I.P Robin Williams (We'll never have a friend like you again)
Yes
Hear me out... If they made a CGI film of this, Jamie Costa could voice the Riddler because he does a spot on impression of Robin Williams
I miss Robin Williams, he was everyone's favorite uncle, and the world is a little dimmer since he passed. I hope he has found peace where ever he wound up, RIP Robin Williams, we miss you.
The Robin Williams imitation here was perfect! In fact, given how dark this version is, I'd want him to be even funnier! (Not Jim Carrey funnier, mind you, but still funnier.)
I can't help but make the comparison between this potential version of the Riddler and Heath Ledger's Joker, in that they were both amazing actors, who took a character who was largely associated with camp and made them both Oscar worthy and utterly terrifying to watch
The Robin Williams impression is perfection
It’s almost scary how on point it is
It gives me the “One Hour Photo” and “Insomnia” vibes. It shows that those movies proved that Williams can have a dark side to his performances than comedy
At times it sounds like David Hyde Pierce to me!
He's not scary. He doesn't fit the Burton Batman world. Johnny Depp is. Robin Williams was a stand-up guy. Of course he did dramatic things and thriller things, but he doesn't fit in the Burton Batman world.
@@gordontims1999 he's actually Joel Schumacher's original choice for The Riddler before Jim Carrey was cast. If you get into the Burton Batman 3 rumors, somebody's gonna kick your ass. You got it?
@@booers79 don't believe in the internet these days.
Even with still images, I'd watch this right after batman returns any day.
It really feels like a sequel to the first two movies
@@Ian-hj4yt
Yeah.
I mean, they went from a bit goofy to be sure, but a bit more adult version, which in some ways felt like a longer version of a joker episode of the animated series, to something a complete satire of itself with the next 2 films...
Adam west version was fine, but it was intentionally stupid and silly because that's the market they were aiming for was kids.
People loved the animated and Michael Keaton films because it didn't treat us like kids anymore.. They gave us depth of character and plot intrigue. That gave way to just more silliness immediately. Which is a shame too because Mr. Freeze in tge animated series won academy awards for it's voice work and animation.
@@Deadchannel1737
Totally.
Not everything is supposed to be kid friendly.
Seriously, who would let their kids watch south park just because it's 'animated?'
I love the darker stuff. (Darker as in more serious and not campy)
Yeah, the second batman film (first Keaton film) had some camp to it, but it took itself serious enough to appreciate the adult audience as well.
Like An American Tale. Yeah, it was technically for kids, but jeez. That no cars in America song had a lot of broken up bits of tragic moments in it, and all the places Fivel ended up going to had a lot of depressing themes.
But that's what I enjoyed about it. Like Doug says at the beginning of the dark toons episodes, it made me feel more grown up having watched it because of all that stuff he went through.
Give us more mask of the phantasm showing Bruce essentially punishing himself thinking he foesn't deserve any joy in his life after losing his parents.
Give us more of the conflict between Flagg and Peacemaker in The Suicide Squad squaring of the questioning whether it's right or wrong to hide info from the masses for the sake of temporary peace between nations.
I absolutely love stuff like that.
@@Deadchannel1737 great examples
I agree. I want a real movie like this
I really wish Burton’s Batman Forever happened, Robin Williams as the riddler and Billy D. Williams as Two-Face woulda been amazing. And of course Keaton as Batman
I just now realized that Edward had that breakdown not because his heart was broken, but because the answer was literally sitting right under his nose and he was utterly fooled like any normal person would be
This is nonsense. Robin Williams as The Riddler would not be the One Hour Photo/Insomnia Robin Williams. He would be the same over the top/flamboyant Riddler as was in the final film. And it was Joel Schumacher who wanted Robin Williams as The Riddler, and The Batchlers wrote The Riddler with Williams in mind. Williams read the screenplay for Batman Forever and he loved it. Due to a salary dispute, they made an offer to Jim Carrey and Williams found out about it when he read it in the trades, according to Ben Wan (The man who knows too much about Batman) and Andrew Bush on Superhero Stuff You Should Know.
@@evanzaremba4722 Screw you, this would've been a million times better. This movie still would've been crap no matter who played Riddler and "One Hour Photo/Insomnia Robin Williams" would've been absolutely perfect. You apparently don't seem to understand that this show doesn't care about real-life circumstances and simply tries to make the best possible story.
@@dylanmaldet6643 Channel Awesome doesn't know about real-life circumstances, but they will. I believe what Ben and Andrew said on their podcast, because they interview the people that worked on the Batman movies, including movement double Carl Newman, Tim Flattery, and many others.
@@evanzaremba4722 Nobody cares about real-life crap like that. They make this show and I watch this show for purposes of entertainment and I don't appreciate you spoiling our fun with with all this needless nitpicking.
@@dylanmaldet6643 yeah I spoiled the fun, but I always tell the truth.
"I feel like a twelve year old terrorist in a toy store... " Feels exactly like a Williams line
It Toy R Us
@@wokenlunatic2849 Well damn, that changes everything then...
@@OGdadpool yep (I missed Toy R Us) it was awesome
They could have had Williams write his own lines.
Agreed
It's insane how well Carrey's lines work with Williams. He would've been a good Riddler.
Yeah IKR
Agreed
@Christopher Cravens WOW REALLY
Carrey's depiction of E. Nygma lacks originality compared to Williams.
A GREAT Riddler
“Nitroglycerin!, HOT DAAAAAAMN!”
That has to be one of the funniest lines I’ve ever heard from any version of the riddler XD
Yeah infinitely better than the actual film. Best rewrite ever
I'm really digging the Robin Williams and Michael Keaton impersonations.
I love the Billy Dee Williams impersonation.
Rob's impression of Robin Williams is brilliant and the recreation of his style of humour and mannerism is on point. For large bits I felt I was experiencing some of his routines again. Good job! (Yeah, we miss him so much.)
Thought the same thing, not over the top. Very well done enjoyed every second
Robin Williams would be a great Riddler!
Shame he's not with us 😢
Always remember him in Flubber and as Genie.
True
It is, but at some parts especially in the earlier bits i can't help but think it sounds a LOT like Cary Elwes in Princess Bride too.
This is my new official Batman Forever. As far as I’m concerned the real one never happened and this one did. It’s insane how well you describe this, I can practically see it perfectly in my head.
It wasn’t gonna be called Batman Forever had Tim Burton directed it. It was gonna be called Batman Continues 😉
I'm not.really.feeling Robin Williams as Riddler however, wasn't his casting in Forever only a rumor anyway?
@@LordMalice6d9 no it wasn’t. He was already cast as Riddler just like Billy Dee Williams was set to be Twoface and Michael Keaton was cast to be Batman etc. the whole cast was ready to go and Tim Burton was gonna direct it. But that version was called off do to McDonald’s feeling “Uncomfortable” after the previous film Batman Returns being too graphic with the Penguin puking up green slime, they couldn’t sell happy meal toys like that so Warner Bros told Burton to step down as director and when they replaced him with Joel Schumacher, the whole cast was replaced also. Robin Williams was pissed, because he was already gonna be Joker in Batman 1989 but was replaced with Jack Nicholson
@@nsasupporter7557 actually, it wasn't Burton who want to do a third film, though he had ideas, WB doesn't want him to do another one. So he hired Schumacher to direct, because I watch Schumacher's interview and he said to Charlie Rose that he would do it if Burton wanted him to do it. And I listen to an interview with The Batchlers that it was Schumacher who wanted Michael Keaton to come back as Batman, before Val Kilmer was cast. And Schumacher already knew he wanted Tommy Lee Jones for Two-Face, which it had happened, and it was not Tim Burton who wanted Robin Williams for The Riddler, it was Joel Schumacher who wanted Robin Williams to play The Riddler before Jim Carrey was cast.
@@nsasupporter7557 it's just a made-up title. Don't believe in the internet these days. If you believe in the internet still, I'll kick your ass if you do such a thing.
Now we need, “What if Tim Burton directed Batman and Robin?”
If this guy directed batman and robin it would be more than watchable
@@rohannaval1621 It would be, a masterpiece. Not as high as the Dark Knight or Batman TAS, but a masterpiece.
To start with Arnold Schwarzenegger would be no where near that movie. As much as I like many of his movies that was the worst casting of all time.
I honestly would love to see them tackle this. These videos have been a great watch.
@@DarthSoto78 Alan Rickman should have been Freeze and Bane should have been cut out and saved for the next movie with The fake, 90s Batman maybe.
There's a fan edit that approximates this called Batman Forever: Redbook Edition. The entire film is recolored to match Burton's style, as well as trimming some of the sillier lines and scenes to make it more serious. It also reincorporates cut content like showing Two-Face's escape from Arkham.
I really think Tim Burton's BATMAN FOREVER would be best if it opened with the Arkham scene. That was great! Although I'd prefer the message written in blood not be "THE BAT MUST DIE" but "THEY ALL WILL PAY." It would leave a bit of mystery as to who "they" are. And then we'd find out that Two-Face was targeting the Mayor and all the other city officials, just like in the Nolan films and in this very FanScription.
Oh hey i was just talking to the guy who made this edit. He's making a new one
How do I watch
I want Tim Burton to see these videos someday.
He won't. And he would definitely see the Schumacher Cut of Batman Forever.
@@evanzaremba4722bro- stop being a dick XD
@evanzaremba4722 what's the Schumacher cut like?
You've added something I've almost never seen in other iterations of batman: criminal liability for helping him. Excellent plot building
It’s refreshing to see something new!!!😃😃😃
This is literally one of the best things I've ever heard, this is what we should've gotten, and this is from someone who likes batman forever (it's an underrated gem imo)
"Alfred said he tested it on himself. I'm... kinda hoping he was lying."
God, I love that line!
If robin Williams were like this as the riddler he would've been terrific. I enjoy the fanfictions on this channel.
💯💯💯💯🔥
Jimmy Carey killed the rest of the movie was okay
Actually, he would be the same over the top/flamboyant Riddler as was in the final film. The Batchlers, along with director Joel Schumacher, had the Batman Forever script tailored to Robin Williams and his comedic delivery before it went to Jim Carrey.
He might have been more comedic since Robin William was infamous for ad-libbing and changing his lines, so he might have been more comedic.
@@chadpeterson5698 he's more comedic.
The most impressive part of this is the fact that you kept the "I'll get drive thru" line in there. *Chef's kiss*
It’s a genuinely funny line tho. Sucks that it was in the film we got 😂
Alfred: "Have it Your Way, Master Wayne."
"EHHHH!!! Wrong answer, but thanks for playing!"
I can't get enough of that!
The most accurate response:
"Holy rusted metal, Batman!"
"Huh?"
Well, “Hole-y”
@The Braided Warrior They knew exactly what they were doing. Paying homage to the 60's tv show.
"The fuck did you just say, Robin?"
I'm genuinely impressed by this fanscription. They managed to turn the "I'll get drive-thru" line from commercial fluff into a line of frustration and bitterness. Very good job.
And it could still be used for the commercials lol
It just works!
The idea of Robin Williams being The Riddler and doing that mental breakdown is the most terrifying thing I think I've ever heard.
I _want_ this reality where Tim Burton's Batman Forever happens.
Actually, it doesn't exist. It was Joel Schumacher who wanted Robin Williams for The Riddler. Lee and Janet Scott Batchler wrote The Riddler with Robin Williams in mind, and he would be the same over the top/flamboyant Riddler as was in the final film. Due to a salary dispute, the role went to Jim Carrey.
@@evanzaremba4722 well Who else would have been the riddler in this
Johnny Depp?
@@MineKurtMininer yup. Because Tim Burton had worked with Johnny Depp before.
@@evanzaremba4722 aside that
It's too obvious and plus maybe Robin Williams would have been awesome, especially if he did something Dark and gritty
@@MineKurtMininer nope. He wouldn't be the One Hour Photo/Insomnia Robin Williams. He'll be the same over the top/flamboyant Riddler as was in the final film, played by Jim Carrey. Check out The unmade versions of The Riddler: Who is Lyle Heckondorf on Superhero Stuff You Should Know. That's what I'm explaining to you.
"Every time I put on this mask, things get worse. Napier... Shreck... nipples... credit cards... where does it all end?"
That line puzzled me. Sure, Batman "created" the Joker. But Oswald Cobblepot's parents created the Penguin. Max Shreck created Catwoman. And - in this version, at least - the Penguin created Two-Face. Why does Bruce feel he has to take all the blame?
“A BAT CREDIT CARD!!! I’LL KILL YOU, I’LL KILL YOU!!!!” *Gun shots go off*
@@SeasideDetective2 The guilt is that Batman believes his very presence is causing all this suffering. If this crusade is to make things better, why are things getting worse?
A pregnant catwoman?
@@callumjames7854 You can stop with the Bat Credit Card Joke now. Linkara had put that joke to *Rest....in.....Peace.........(Undertaker's Theme plays in the background)*
I’m seriously blown away by how perfect Rob’s Michael Keaton impression is.
Batman and Robin next
Agreed
@@questworldiangreenknight7455 Worlds Finest Batman and Superman. We need more Joker in here! XD
Yea that and robin williams
I thought he sounded more like Adrian Pasdar, who at one point could have made for a pretty good Batman.
It's such a shame Robin Williams is no longer with us, I would have loved to see him as Nygma with this character motivation. I really enjoyed this and to be fair it should be converted into a DC animated original because of how different it is from Schumachers movie and have the likenesses for the fans to appreciate what it could have been if Tim wasn't fired from the directors chair.
The Riddler in Tim Burton's Batman world would be Johnny Depp. Besides, it was Joel Schumacher who wanted Robin Williams for The Riddler. Lee and Janet Scott Batchler wrote The Riddler with Robin Williams in mind. He would be the same over the top/flamboyant Riddler as was in the final film. Due to a salary dispute, the role went to Jim Carrey and Williams found out about it when he read it in the trades.
@@evanzaremba4722 I also heard Burton wished for Steve Buscemi.
@@MrBlueSkyof1607 that's also a rumor. Burton had never used Riddler in his films. Because he's into German expressionism. His friend Schumacher used Riddler in his films, because he wanted it to be a living comic book.
59:11 so deep! All the events that occurred during the series Bruce realizes Joker, Penguin, Catwoman and even Two-Face he feels he’s just as responsible for them causing chaos in the city as much as they are responsible for provoking Batman out to fight wars.
I had my doubts, but after watching this, I'm convinced Billy Dee Williams would've made a pretty damn good Two Face.
That would’ve been a good street record for him Lando Calrissian and two face i’d call dad a good career
You doubted the guy who played a two face buddy of Solo?
@Marcelo Medeiros because Warner Bros wanted those four to play Batman. And both Kilmer and Bale are my two favorites.
@Marcelo Medeiros yes. You like them like me. We had a lot in common.
@Marcelo Medeiros same here.
I've listened to this fanscription 3 times now. It never gets old. I could only whish that this movie had been made instead of the BF we actually got.
The fact the “riddler” is already a established character and Edward Nygma based his villain ego off of that riddler, also imagine a comic panel implying whomever created the original riddler character sues Edward Nygma over his use of the Riddler
A loophole black hole.
Chances are Edward forced the creator to sign over the rights and then bombed him.
@@TRTMN-vs3ew Maybe.
@@TRTMN-vs3ew or the original creator of the riddler was already long dead and nygma saw it as an opportunity to use the name for himself and since the original creator was already dead hey free real estate on the name
There was never a villain called the riddler. In the story it’s a name of a jester clown type person. Edward Nygma is the only bad guy who called himself the riddler.
Technecly with the catwoman cameo. This opens you guys up to reinmagine the Catwoman solo movie and having it about her skipping town after confessing to the murder of the Ice Princess.
If Robin Williams was alive and saw this along with hearing this phenomenal impression of him as the Riddler, he'd be over the moon to see this little fanon depiction of *Batman Forever*
And he's actually Joel Schumacher's original choice for The Riddler before it went to Jim Carrey.
@@evanzaremba4722 STOP acting like you're better than everyone else and stealing other people's art on DA and putting them up as if they're your own, THEN people would respect you. NOT A GOOD LOOK
@@JTurner-xg5ukJust leave it man. I get you’re frustrated but it isn’t worth it.
@@crazyalarmstudios2012 I know, it's just that I'm sick of seeing this ego stroking motherfucker 'correcting' people while in reality. He's showing his ass to the entire world and being the biggest dickhead of all dickheads
If Robin Williams had been Riddler, I would have liked to sleep in a combination of the Genie's humor and Seymour's creepiness.
Exactly
@@srstriker6420 I’m glad that all 3 of us agree.
@@MrBlueSkyof1607 yes and you too
For some reason I think Steve buscemi would've been a great choice for riddler. I know it's a strange choice. But still
@@liamearly4883 I see him more as the Mad Hatter then the Riddler
Take notes people, this is a prime example of when the fans put more time and effort into a beloved super hero franchise than the mega corporate that owns the rights to said heroes and put out a better product than they ever will.
That goes for all media franchises
I also bet you was nerds can make better merchandise than them
BIG FACTS!!
Difference between being made and being owned. If the maker retained their ownerships in some cases!
In the Back to the Future Part IV Fanscription, a deleted scene reveals Doc also mailed letters to Ivan Reitman and Tim Burton to assure the Fanscription versions of Ghostbusters II and Batman Forever were made.
I'm completely BLOWN AWAY! This is OUTSTANDING! The script, the stars, the voices (especially Michael Keaton, Robin Williams, UNCANNY! 😱) I can picture it all so vividly. It's like my mind created the whole scenes as you guys read the script. Where were you guys in 1994-95 when this should have been made!??? BRAVO! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Joel Schumacher was to make Batman Forever with Michael Keaton and Robin Williams, since he had Tommy Lee Jones already. There's a salary dispute between Keaton and Williams and they insist having both Val Kilmer and Jim Carrey.
Robin Williams as The Riddler, ad Billy Dee Williams as Two Face are the Best performances that never happened in CBM history.
Is CBM cinematic Batman movie
@@kayden5724 Comic Book Movie
@@michaelhartman683 ohhh okay thank you
Billy Dee Williams was Two Face in The Lego Batman Movie
Robin Williams was actually Joel Schumacher's original choice for The Riddler in Batman Forever. These Burton Batman 3 rumors are nonsense. Schumacher talked to Williams about playing The Riddler back in 1993, before Jim Carrey was cast.
I thought it was neat how in this version of Batman Forever, Riddler is the one who died while Two Face is the one who lives and forgets that Bruce Wayne is Batman.
It’s crazy that this version of the Riddler is capable of actually fighting
That's why this version is much better.
He could be lying to protect Bruce's secret. They are, were maybe, best friends.
This was fucking brilliant and really sad at the same time, I miss Robin Williams and what he brought to many of us, this truly has made my day as a fan of the burton Batman’s, I pictured all of this playing out like a real movie, and I love the Batman forever movie but this concept would of been 100x more great in my opinion.
RIP Robin Williams 🌹
Actually, he doesn't fit the Burton Batman world. Johnny Depp is, because Burton work with Depp on Edward Scissorhands, Ed Wood, Sleepy Hollow, Charlie and The Chocolate Factory, Corpse Bride, Sweety Todd, Alice in Wonderland, and Dark Shadows. Tim Burton's friend Joel Schumacher actually talk to Robin Williams about playing The Riddler, because he, like Schumacher, was a Batman fan, and he said that playing The Riddler would be very nify, and The Batchlers wrote it with his voice in mind. Williams read the screenplay and he wanted to do it. Due to a salary dispute, the role went to Jim Carrey (The Cable Guy). Williams found out about it when he was reading the trades.
@@evanzaremba4722 and I think two face looks scary and dark looking
@@darthmalins4950 to you? Yes. But to me? No. Joel Schumacher doesn't want Billy Dee Williams as Two-Face. He found him too heroic like Clark Gable. That's why he cast Tommy Lee Jones in the role, because I read Schumacher's interview in an old magazine article from 1995.
"What If Tim Burton Directed Batman Forever?"
*It would have been good.*
Not necessarily. HighTop Films did a really extensive breakdown of some of the things that Schumocker went through while making Forever. There exists a director's cut of practically a whole different movie. Turns out that WB/DC had been screwing over directors loooooooong before Snyder and Whedon. Truthfully they've been doing it since Richard Donner, but I digress. lol
You say this like it wasn’t already a masterpiece
(I’m mostly joking)
@@OgIKidd yeah but let’s face it, it sucks that arguably the most interesting Bruce Wayne is Michael Keaton. In both movies he’s very quiet but carries this presence of such emotional baggage without ever sulking up about it.
@@OgIKidd and unlike Tim Burton, Joel Schumacher was a die hard Batman fan and had wanted to continue Burton’s style in the third film, but Warner Bros. was still dealing with the backlash and controversy of Batman Returns and they wanted heavily pushed to make Batman Forever “toy-etic” according to Schumacher. In fact it was a similar instance that cause Tim Burton to depart from his canceled Superman film. On Howard Stern he talked about how Warner Bros. was already badgering him about what the characters where gonna look like for the toys, t-shirts etc. but nobody had been cast.
@@OgIKidd and actually what happened with Richard Donner/Superman 2 was not really DC’s fault or even Warner Bros. for that matter. It was more producers Alexander & Ilya Salkind and Pierre Spangler that made the film “production hell” for Donner and where constantly at each other’s throats. They constantly told Donner he was “over budget” but they never gave him a budget and that he was “over scheduled” but was never given a schedule. It got to the point where Donner had to ban all three from the set. Finally when it came to finishing Superman 2, they fired him. In fact writer Tom Mankiewicz joked “If the first film had bombed, the Salkinds [producers] would’ve made Dick come back to finish the second one as punishment.”
Robin Williams would be perfect as the riddler
On paper, some actually though it
wouldn't work because it's hard to
see Robin Williams being a villain.
They thought wrong. LOL
Two-Face (BDW) - "Get out of my face ! "
Riddler (RW) - "Which one ? "
It’s a shame he was promised the part then Jim Carey got big and they gave it to him.
@@charles1203 Carey was in vogue back then :/
@@charles1203 that's why is due to a salary dispute. Joel Schumacher asked Robin Williams to play The Riddler as Lee and Janet Scott Batchler wrote it with his voice in mind and he felt bad that he couldn't get the role and that's why they cast Jim Carrey in the role and he won acclaim playing the Riddler role and that's one of the best performances I've seen of a comic book villain.
Well, its official. Whenever i do a Batman marathon. I watch Batman, Batman Returns, then these fanscriptions, then move on to the nolan films.
Some may dismiss fanfiction as 'not real' but good writing is good writing and this video in particular is one of the best Batman stories ever written.
We could've had Robin Williams as Riddler and Brad Dourif as the Scarecrow?
That's the absolute best idea ever! It would've been awesome!
fuck yeah, and even channel Awesome screwed it up for us.....
Robin as The Riddler this fanscription proves he would have been an outstanding riddler
It really would've been the oldest cast ever assembled for Batman...beginning with Batman
If Schumacher had made another Batman film, it was going to be called "Batman Triumphant". The main villain was going to be Scarecrow, and he was going to somehow resurrect the dead Joker.
Agreed
Never thought I needed Robin Riddler Williams, until today.
once again I am sad that this version did not happen
Really nailed Robin Wiliams' inflection. Miss him!
And he would be a comedic Riddler.
@@evanzaremba4722 dude shut up
Not only was this amazingly well constructed from the concept up, but also polished to a mirror sheen in terms of presentation and performance. This is beyond fan-fiction. I was enthralled because it felt like so much more than just photoshopped stills and script reading. It was incredible.
1:24:16 the impression of Williams was spot on in this bit. it's what I imagine Robin to sound like in this scene.
gotten goosebumps from it too.
Actually, he would be a comedic Riddler.
@@evanzaremba4722bro your still here?-
@@godzillaslayer5817 yeah, to correct all of you.
@@evanzaremba4722 annoying-
@@godzillaslayer5817 I hope you just said that, but I'm the one who knows the truth.
Honestly I do love how you turned Riddler into a Jigsaw and Unabomber hybrid.
And that sucks.
@@evanzaremba4722 Ehh, not as much as you acting like a know-it-all asswipe. Then again, your mother left you to your own devices. Sad really, STOP STEALING PEOPLE'S ART AND ACTING LIKE AN ASS IF YOU WANT PEOPLE TO LIKE YOU :)
@@evanzaremba4722bro no it don’t-
@@godzillaslayer5817 That's your opinion. Not mine.
@@evanzaremba4722 maybe like you have your own opinion you should get your own art instead of stealing it
"Brad Douriff as Scarecrow" - it's a crime that we were denied this.
The Scarecrow could've had parts in this story,
such as his Smilex-like drugs being the reason behind Dent's evil side.
Jeff Goldblum's likeness was used in the new Batman '89 comics. He looks terrifying.
Robin Williams would’ve been a good choice for Riddler, but I think Jim Carrey could still work in Burton’s vision of Riddler. Much like Williams, Carrey has a dark, twisted, demented sense of humor that would’ve been amazing in Burton’s version of Batman Forever.
I think Carrey would be better as the Mad Hatter
@@michaelhartman683 that's a good choice
How about a comedic Riddler? Because Robin Williams was a stand-up guy, and he would not fit in the Burton Batman world.
@@evanzaremba4722 Robin Williams could do comedy & drama flawlessly. If you watch Mrs Doubtfire & Good Will Hunting back to back, you'll see how much range he had.
He would've been superb as The Riddler.
@@Grandmaster_Dragonborn I watched him in Good Will Hunting back in 2013 and it's brilliant.
This will always be the REAL Batman Forever in my book.
And you know that it doesn't exist.
@@evanzaremba4722
Dude stop being a jerk
@@MineKurtMininer I'm serious. You better check out The Myth of Tim Burton's Batman 3: Batman Continues Debunked.
@@evanzaremba4722 Idc it's not cool if you debunk someone's opinion
@@MineKurtMininer you see, Burton's Batman 3 were just rumors. Batman Forever didn't start out as a Tim Burton project. It was always Joel Schumacher's baby. Burton's only involvement with Forever is to hire his friend Schumacher to direct and he help hiring Lee and Janet Scott Batchler to write the screenplay.
He probably would have kept the “Oh No! It's Boiling Acid!” line.
Lol 😂
Nah, for me, it was a bit too over-the-top
You’ve obviously never seen more of Tim Burton’s work a mixture of cheesy and dark In my opinion.
@@rubenharos6988 Me? I just thought it was Joel Schumacher's writing
Third time watching this and the work put in on the tragedy or Batman and Robins lives and the rage that defines them was incredible! This brought those characters down to earth. Two face was given a proper characterization as well… overall this was excellent 11/10 !!
Glad you enjoyed it!!
@@ChannelAwesome We’ll enjoy Tim Burton’s Batman & Robin just as much 😉
For real, though; this one was something special.
This is amazing. A full feature-length story! The voice acting was impressive too, it's like getting a glimpse of Robin Williams in the best role he never played.
And you say you may do Tim Burton's Batman and Robin? Cool, can't wait to see where you take it!
Obviously, WB used Robin Williams as bait to trick Jack Nicholson into the role of The Joker in 1989's Batman. Joel Schumacher called up Williams and asked in to play The Riddler in 1995's Batman Forever. Due to a salary dispute, they cast Jim Carrey.
In some alternate universe this movie happened. I would like to be in that universe. Rest in peace Robin Williams
I much prefer this version of Riddler that actually seems to take him seriously as a threat. For some reason, in the movies, Riddler was always played super OTT and I always preferred the more subtle and calculating versions from Gotham or even Batman The Telltale Series.
I loved the Telltale series. Both seasons.
Villians last words
Joker: "you wouldn't hit a guy with glasses would ya?"
Penguin: "but first, I need a cold drink, of ice water..."
Riddler: "do you see me now old man?, you will..."
Jokers last words were ironically " feel free to drop in"
Double correction: The Joker's were "Sometimes I just kill myself!", though it did sound like to me, he might've said "Woah" just before falling (Nonetheless, I still think the former is great for his last line).
@@ruminatingreptilian5907 my bad
It’s kind of ironic if you think about it because most of there last words have to do with there deaths and past events they’ve experienced
Joker said have a nice fall then fell to his death getting the last laugh because of the laughing bag
Penguin said he needs a cold drink of ice water then when he dies his penguins put him in the very cold water
Then riddler said do you see me now old man. You will… mostly because of his past abuse with his father
What if Tim Burton Directed Batman and Robin?
Now that's a real question.
Sir Patrick Stewart as Mr. Freeze.
Next up
What if Burton directed the original TV series
So much yes
If Patrick Stewart played Freeze, who should play secondary antagonist? Poison Ivy or Bane? If Bane, I think Danny Trejo would be great, especially after Desperado and From Dusk 'Til Dawn!
The weird thing about Joel Schumacher is that he was a perfect choice to direct a third Batman film, as he was gifted at doing dark thrillers such as Flatliners, The Lost Boys, The Client and Falling Down, but he chose to make campy Batman films.
With that said, I do hope Burton returns with Keaton for an actual third film. Keaton will be a huge selling factor for The Flash, so I hope WB sees the light and gives him a final solo film.
*The studio chose to make campy Batman films. People give Schumacher too much shtick, it was the studio that wanted a lighter tone.
@@yortlebluzzgubbly3871 we can blame McDonald’s for Batman forever, sadly.
batman 89 was pretty campy though
@@waxeater112 that's right. Jack Nicholson shows a powerful presence as a powerful actor. He's a good Joker.
@@yortlebluzzgubbly3871 that was Tim Burton who hired Joel Schumacher to direct the third film. Because Schumacher can't make this movie without him, because they're friends.
After hearing Malcolm's Two-Face voice, I want to hear him voice Spawn.
God I miss Robin Williams! He would have been an amazing Riddler.
One Hour Photo gives you some idea what he is like playing the villain.
They should make a CGI film of this. Jamie Costa could voice the Riddler because he does a spot on impression of Robin Williams
Although that would be cool! But it seems very unlikely that we could get this movie sadly 😔
Alternatively, Dan Castellaneta did a good job as the Genie in the Aladdin tv show.
yessss
Nay, hand-drawn!
Man this was absolutely amazing!!!! I would love to see Tim Burtons Superman Lives! Also I could here “Kiss from a rose” as two face approached Grace with the rose in his hand!
Then Batman’s legacy would live on without a flawed Batman forever and a god awful Batman and Robin. Well now that I think about it, the way this could affect Nolans trilogy is something I should think about
Maybe they would have never needed to reboot Batman and we would've never gotten the Nolan trilogy
@@AceTheSkylord yeah but then we would never get to see Micheal Caine as Alfred or Heath Ledger as joker who btw are the most legendary casting choices ever
@@jackrodakthemovieguy1726 Exactly. Chances are we would have seen a live action Batman Beyond movie with Keaton's Bruce Wayne training Terry McGinnis instead of the Nolan Trilogy
@@AceTheSkylord that doesn't sound like the worst future
To be fair this was clearly inspired by Nolan's version, Batman hunted by the cops after the second film, bruce stopping going out as batman for a time and becoming a recluse, and a mad bomber villian, who goes from cheap pipe bombs to a city wide terror spree once they get mob support, Nolan's influence is everywhere.
Frankly in a universe where this was made I would think the next reboot/incarnation of the character would be more fantastic and over the top, Maybe Nolan would have leaned more into the supernatural side of Raas Al'Ghul's character, Play up the immortal villian with a cause angle, or lean more into the sci fi angle with villians like freeze who only work due to comic book science.
Nolan's trilogy was the most gritty and "realistic" batman, villians didn't go for huge gag themed threats, Joker puting a bomb in a jack in the box, scarecrow using pumpkins etc, wouldn't fit in nolan's take, but this version of Forever went in that direction a bit, so veering into other "flavors" feels right for any future incarnations, as long as you don't go full camp like adam west or somaker's other batman film, that could work for a cartoon or a series, but not for a modern movie take.
Maybe it would be like the Arkham games, dark tones using sci fi tech to facilitate grand villian plots, probably using villians that haven't been used before, Like Black mask, or that were used poorly, Like Bane (I liked Nolan's bane fine but it would be very interesting to see what he wouuld be like in this hypothetical universe, and he wasn't used much in other tv or theatrical releases.) I could see a Nolan Batman using part of Arkham Orgin's plot for example, Black mask in particular is a great villian for blurring the line between mobster and Supervillian. Hush and Dr. Hugo Strange would be interesting foes as well, though ideally in settings where there are a lot of other villians to bounce off of, or at least are implied to exist.
Tim Burton should have been the director for this as well as Batman and Robin ;)
@@samuelwilliams1619 exactly
Might as well he's already rewrote - Batman 89, Returns, and now Forever
All the films would felt like they belong
That was incredible 😮 If this were made back in the day, Robin Williams would have been up for an Oscar
Actually, it was Joel Schumacher who wanted Robin Williams to play The Riddler in Batman Forever. Lee and Janet Scott Batchler wrote The Riddler with Robin Williams in mind, since they already had Tommy Lee Jones as Two-Face.
In the first two drafts written by the Batchlers, they gave Riddler the name of Lyle Heckendorf, not Edward Nygma. His company was not NygmaTech. His name was Lyle Heckendorf. So the name of the company was HeckTech. And Joel came up with a scene that was not in the final film where Lyle stalks Bruce Wayne and Chase Meridian at the circus, where they're about to see the Graysons die, and in order to get closer to Bruce, Lyle stole clothes from a fortune telling leprechaun, which form the basis of the Riddler outfit. And in the same script, he has magenta hair.
The Batchlers knew somebody who had worked with Robin and knew Robin that somebody talked to him about it. He read the script. He loved it. He wanted to do it. And his agency said, "Don't worry. They'll have to come to you. Nobody else in town who does what you do." And his management said to Warner Bros., "If Michael Keaton is getting $15 million and the percentage of the gross and the percentage of merchandising, we'll be asking for our client too?" And Warner Bros. have a heavy heart and said "Alright, forget the percentage of the gross, we're spending $30 million on the two actors and we didn't start filming until September. Let's think about recasting." And they made an offer to Jim Carrey that we get, and Robin found out about it when he read it in the trades.
It also said that WB used Robin to trick Jack Nicholson into playing The Joker in the 1989 Batman film.
Batman Forever is my favorite Bat-flick and there's only a few things I would have changed (make Robin a kid, give Sugar & Spice an ending, and have Two-Face be more lowkey villain). But I really liked this. Good job making Riddler' character darker without making him grim.
That was fucking beautiful.
I mean honestly it felt less like conjecture about Tim Burton's version and more like just if you wrote it yourself, but I don't really care because this actually felt *better* than if Burton wrote it.
Burton notably didn't care about Robin, and I'm not sure his Two-Face would've been as sympathetic and well written as he was here (given the issues his Penguin had, although a good deal of that was due to the script).
I'm admittedly not sure how I feel about how Grace became the center of a love square between Harvey, Bruce, and Edward (still deciding how I feel about her kissing Bruce), but at least she wasn't fridged here, and she actually fulfilled her role as the one person who can finally bring Harvey back from the darkness!
I also just enjoyed the hell out of your Riddler take. He was deluded, with his own set of standards, refusing to let Two-Face kill the Bat if he didn't solve the riddle first. The way he manipulated Two-Face and challenged Batman's wits was brilliant, and I really loved how he simply accepted his death, thinking he had finally won.
Your Two-Face was also just absolutely wonderful. He wasn't just a generic evil guy like he was in Forever, but someone with justified motivation for hunting Batman as well as the other officials. You nailed just why he's such a great threat by establishing him as someone who knows the law inside and out, and also can easily persuade people into his gang. The ending of your script was just heartbreaking, but I'm glad you chose to actually let Harvey reform rather than die.
Your take on Bruce as an introspected, tortured man was wonderful, and you even managed to make Robin feel justified and helpful without being annoying about it. Great work overall, I would've loved it if this had been the real movie we got!
Everyone is talking about the Robin Williams impression (which IS spot one) and Michael Keaton but can we take a moment to appreciate the Two-Face impression!! Man….You guys did great on this…I can’t stop watching it! Yes can we get a Tim Burton Batman and Robin (What If)
The great thing about this channel is that they don't always make fun of stuff. They do try to "fix" some things. I think Robin Williams would be proud. I'm on board for a Tim Burton Batman 4.
Once again, WE NEED TIME TRAVEL. Burton needs to see this.
They could do this in CGI
Damn, your Robin Williams Riddler dialogue is hilarious, and the imitation is spot on!
That Brad Douriff impression was spot on
All of the impressions were spot on! I was really impressed with the Ronny Cox one. Sounded just like him!!
I’m just now realizing that DC should do a Riddler movie that is like Saw. It would be smaller, cheap, you could even make it Rated R and it could be pretty profitable. It could even be in the same universe but without needing to shoehorn other characters.
And I would have say the same about Batman and Penguin being Eliot Ness and Al Capone from the Untouchables
Hmmmmmm maybe good!
tie it into Joker, and have Matt Frewer play the Riddler.
DC/Warner should just ditch that botched attempt at a samey Marvel-ripoff that became the DCEU.
Instead offer standalone movies with a unique style each to different talented script writers and directors and let each of them run with it given total creative freedom to reinvent shit.
That's the strength of having a multiverse after all: Not having the need of matching everything; having the freedom to colour each world differently, Batman dark, Wonder Woman periodical, Harley Quinn manically bright, Shazam like an oldschool kid's adventure movie, Aquaman teeming with quirky fishies, Joker once like a tragic clown, and once like a bipolar crime lord.
Relaunch and recreate instead of rinse and repeat!
Throughout the whole script I had the entire film imagined in my head, excellent job guys 👍🏼
Fun fact: In Batman Forever (1995) more than 100 Batman and Robin costumes were created to allow for the range of stunts, from underwater scenes, to scenes involving fire and extreme fighting.
Please tell me I wasn’t the only one that was getting anxiety during Robin’s Riddler and Grace‘s scenes.
it's unfortunate that subplot ends in the hallway, Did anyone else think it shouldn't have ended there? Maybe Grace finds out Edward was the Riddler or she finds that heart puzzle box/mangled rose in the garbage, then realizes it was for her from him and she and Bruce made him feel like crap.
Yeah it’s known as Dramatic Irony, it’s when the audience is aware of something that a character isn’t. An example is if Character A is waiting for character B to show up, but the Audience seen Character B die 3 chapters ago.
I had to scroll into the comments for that part, lmao. It's a perfectly blended mix between horror and awkwardness.
I got to thinking of Williams' role in One Hour Photo, yeah, tense for sure
I don't know how y'all got this all together, but seriously impressive. Felt insanely real, and that Robin Williams impression is scarily good. Wish we could have seen this, but this was the next best thing.
I love that you kept the "I'll get drive-thru" line. So fun.
Brad Dourif as Scarecrow was totally a missed opportunity for something truly amazing....
It’s bad enough that he voices a terrifying possessed doll but being a villain all about fear? That would be cool
@Tyrone Kinard he voiced the Riddler in 'The Batman'
Why did Joel took charge of the leading Batman franchise, until Batman and Robin that got Batman killed
@Nightmare1398 Batman Returns didn't scare children away at all.. However it did upset the parents.
Damn what's up with Warner Bros and not letting the directors realise their vision...do they have some criteria that you have to be a douche and an idiot to be on the board of executives or something?
"I haven't heard so much grace outside of a lutheran potluck!" is by far the most Robin Williams joke in this entire thing.
Now, I’m someone who actually likes the original version of the film (really as a dumb fun kind of movie), but I have always wondered what Burton would have done. I wouldn’t mind Burton to actually do a third live action film with Batman, perhaps a Burton-style adaptation of Dark Knight Returns?
I remember absolutely loving BATMAN FOREVER when I was a teenager! It's a perfectly paced action film and strikes a good balance between darkness and light. I didn't even mind seeing Jim Carrey and Tommy Lee Jones camp it up so much; my opinion has always been that you can make the villains as wacky as you want as long as the hero is dead serious.
I only just started this and I already like it way more than the original Batman Forever.
Big fan of Tim Burton’s two Batman movies here and always wondered what his third one might have looked like. A huge round of applause for the people behind the art, story and voices. Robin Williams’ Riddler looked menacing and Billy Dee Williams’ Two-Face was spot on. I wouldn’t be surprised if I found out that it was actually Michael Keaton’s voice in the video. Great stuff, everyone! I hope Burton sees this video. His take on Batman was superior on various fronts.
Actually, it was Joel Schumacher who wanted Robin Williams for The Riddler. Lee and Janet Scott Batchler wrote The Riddler with Robin Williams in mind, and he would be the same over the top/flamboyant Riddler as was in the final film. Due to a salary dispute, the role went to Jim Carrey. As for Two-Face, Schumacher doesn't want Billy Dee Williams for it, because he found him too heroic like Clark Gable. That's why he cast Tommy Lee Jones in the role. And it was Schumacher who wanted Michael Keaton to come back as Batman before Val Kilmer was cast.
Somebody needs to do a cartoon animation of this along with your version of Batman 89’
And Returns. I love this reimagining of Batman Forever. Do Tim Burton’s Batman and Robin next. Patrick Stewart as Mr. Freeze, Gina Davis as poison ivy, and Arnold Schwarzenegger as Bane
Christoph Waltz as Mr. Freeze and get the wrestler Big Show to play Bane
Honestly, I wouldn't have Bane in there at all.
Patrick Stewart was actually Joel Schumacher's original choice for Mr. Freeze in Batman & Robin before Arnold Schwarzenegger was cast.
@@joepimp89 those are going to be in the Nolanverse.
@@evanzaremba4722 i thought nolan was done with DC, explain yourself good sir?
Comic Fan: "Hollywood ruins EVERYTHING!"
Batman Fan: "I thought that film was okay."
I'm both. Being aware it's bad but also enjoying it still.
honestly if it weren't for this film and batman & robin, we wouldn't have gotten the dark knight trilogy
@@xavierramirez1911 you say that like it's a good thing.... Bale was the least accurate Batman ever put to screen, as was every character in those films except maybe two-face and catwoman.
@@SA80TAGE i say it like its a good thing because, well, it pretty much is lol. and what exactly makes bale's batman inaccurate? the fact that its more grounded and realistic which was literally the whole point? cuz im pretty sure clooney's batman was not accurate to any batman comic whatsoever.
@@xavierramirez1911 Actually the fact it's more grounded and realistic is exactly what makes it inaccurate... Batman doesn't just take on normal mob bosses and crazy clowns you know, ever heard of ClayFace? Man-Bat? Killer Croc? Poison Ivy? Seems you are the one that misses the point. Batman is not realistic just because he doesn't have powers you know, the point of Batman is that he is a regular (albeit peak condition) human going up against mutant monsters, aliens, demons, gods.
Oh and not only was Clooney the only live action Batman that never actually killed anyone in his movie, his movie is basically a homage to the 60's era of comics and tv show... so yeah, even he is more accurate than Bale😂👍
This right here......is what the version of BATMAN FOREVER should have been!
If this ever became a graphic novel, id read it
No, because Batman Forever never started out as a Tim Burton project. It was always Joel Schumacher's baby, according to Ben Wan (The Man Who Knows Too Much About Batman) and Andrew Bush on Superhero Stuff You Should Know.
And according to their interview with Lee and Janet Scott Batchler, Tim Burton's only involvement with Batman Forever was to hire his friend Joel Schumacher as director, and helping out hiring the Batchlers to write the screenplay, and that's why in the opening credits of Batman Forever, Burton was credited as producer.
And there's the Batman 89 comic in hardcover, but were based on unused ideas that Sam Hamm had for the first two Batman films.
Daaaamn, Son! What a hell of talent you guys offer. Voice Acting, the script, the pictures and animations. Awesome work! Pretty witty and how it should be.
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@ChannelAwesome a lot, my friend! How long did it take you to put it all together?
The answer: it would’ve been an actual quality movie.
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Batman Forever was still fun to watch. It wasn’t good but it was still worth the watch in my opinion.
@@mattway18 Better than Batman and Robin, for sure.
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I think batman forever is good. Bruce Wayne and Duck Grayson have a good arc
Robin Williams as the Riddler is intruiging. A man so well known for a lot of his more happy and upbeat roles, to imagine him in a dark role like the riddled is incredibly interesting and Id would have loved to see where his improvisation would have taken the role.
I don't think so. He would be a comedic one, because Robin Williams was a stand-up guy. Joel Schumacher asked Robin Williams to play The Riddler, before Jim Carrey was cast. Check out an interview with Schumacher on Charlie Rose and an interview with The Batchlers on Superhero Stuff You Should Know.
You should watch One Hour Photo or Insomnia.
@@Aaron-zt5ee I did watch Insomnia, but like I said: Robin Williams would be the same over the top/flamboyant Riddler as was in the final film.
@@evanzaremba4722 I was replying to the OP since they were interested in seeing Williams in a villainous role.
@@Aaron-zt5ee WB used Williams as bait to trick Jack Nicholson into the role of The Joker in 1989's Batman. Then Joel Schumacher asked Williams to play The Riddler in Batman Forever, and Lee and Janet Scott Batchler wrote The Riddler with Robin Williams in mind. According to an interview with The Batchlers on Superhero Stuff You Should Know, it was due to a salary dispute. Williams wanted too much money with Michael Keaton, and Warner Bros and Schumacher decided to go with Jim Carrey instead.
I'm only a few minutes in, but when Walter said "Robin Williams as The Riddler", I just lost it. That would've been amazing!!!
EDIT: At 1:20:21 that's Jumbo from Killer Klowns From Outer Space!!!
Not a bad choice indeed
Only halfway through and it makes me sad this wasn't the Batman 3 we got.
If WB wasn't so money hungry for McDonald's happy meal toys.
@Tom Edwards Indeed. Now that you mention it, it kinda reminds me of how Gene Siskel in a childish hissy fit published the home address of the director and lead actress of a movie he didn't like, so his mindless drone readers would go and harass them - over a movie. It was like a Dox move before it was a thing.
This was utterly amazing! Loved the Robin Williams impression!