TED MILLER PODCAST - Horizontal Rub Q and A
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- Опубліковано 10 лип 2018
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Got a feeling that some public land will be looking like an olympic hurdle event this year. Thank you THP, and Ted, for taking the time to go more indepth about this concept.
great to revisit this after a few years. have to make sure i get one or two out this season
Thanks for another great video. Cleared up my questions and can’t wait to try it out this fall! Love The Hunting Public , great show you guys are doing. Please keep it up
Great job guys and thanks! Enjoy seeing you interact with Ted. You guys have a good synergy.
Ted is the man, keep up the good work of teaching all us your amazing tips and tricks.
It seems that around here, cedar is the preferred tree for bucks to rub but i think that Ted and the THP guys just proved to us that scotch pine is the best. Thanks yall for taking the time to help us be better hunters in general. Stay safe everybody
Thanks for answering my question. I am really enjoying your channel. Keep up the good work.
Man great video I'm 63 and can't wait to experiment with this love all the knowledge wow👍👍
Awesome video! Very enjoyable to watch.
Y'all are an amazing group of guys!! Dang good thing I don't live up there or we would tear the woods up together!! Keep the videos coming and thanks for all the answers I needed on the rubs. Gonna give it a try.
Very helpful information!! I will be putting it all to use this season (2021 Michigan) and will definitely video before and hopefully after videos and pics. Great job!!
Going to try this down South with Ceder. I found Ted's channel and absolutely love to watch his trailcam videos of deer working a man made rub
GREAT INFORMATION FELLAS!! Let’s go deer season 🦌🦌🦌🦌🦌🦌🦌🦌🦌🦌🦌
I just set mine up guys thanks for these great videos. I was looking up scotch pine so I could ID them and kept getting directed to Scots Pinr. I hope that's the correct tree luckily we had one on our property.
I'm definitely trying this up behind camp this year
I'd like to try red or white pine this year, but also popple, which is common here, & they always get hammered with rubs....great video fellas 👍👍
Deer seem to like ironwood in my neck of the woods. I have tried to eradicate most of them in my TSI work, but I'm thinking of trying one as a "scrape tree". I'm planning to try my first horizontal rub in a known buck bedding area this year and will use pine since Ted has done all the research on them.
Thanx much guys! Don't have any scotch but do have red pine. I'll give it a whirl. Anyway, another thing to play with. Thanx for the idea.
I’m plan to set up several of these this yr. y’all got my blood boiling right now. So ready to get in the tree.
That was a good video guys. I love Ted's input. Even though deer don't always hang out together, they are social. Give them something, like the horizontal rub method, and they'll come back and let All other deer, know, they're still around. Even if it's once a year.
Personally, I rather know where that year-round / community / scrape/rub is located, then not know.
Side note: seen this vid before, but I got more out of it this time. If that makes any sense. Lol. Thanks guys!
saw one of those exact same types of rubs on some iowa public land one time when turkey scouting and it was ripped to shreds
A video of 3 guys I like to watch...brilliant!
I think what u have in your area as long as pay attention to the details of the plan. Over the last several years I have found that Cedars r like magnets to bucks. They also seem to be located in all the right spots even though they aren't the dominant tree in the area. I even have a public land spot that I am going to transplant a Cedar. I found a spot where there is like 10 Cedars of the same size in a spot that deer bed in only @ night. The spot it's going to is 500 yards away which is floodplain near a river & it's very thick. We got the moisture this spring that we never had all last year. I plan to anchor up higher in the Cedar tree to another tree like 15 feet away with paracord so I can have an adjustable woodvine/grapevine suspended just a few feet away from the Cedar. Then I won't return until the fall when the conditions r right.
Zachee need a napee...haha
Great stuff, love y'alls content.
Hey great videos!
What editing software do y'all use? Thanks
Very helpful. I'll definitely be trying this for 2019 season.
cant do it on public land
@@MrBrave00 we have private so we r safe.
Could you put a horizontal rub in a water way that is a passage to a bedding area?
I didn't hear it asked in the q&a, but does Ted use these post rut? More specifically during shedding season?
We have no jack pine here mostly hard wood what do you suggest for wood
I'm not good at identifying a scotch pine from another pine. How deep do you put the trees for posts?
Great episode!! and Ted seems like an awesome guy and teacher!
He certainly is! We have learned a lot from him ourselves!
yall should have him on more often!! I'm in Texas so I got excited when yall started talking about what to use for rubs. I'm gonna give it a try this year and let yall know what I use if its successful. Thanks again for the awesome content and keeping your viewers well informed of things that interest us!
Another awesome video! I may have missed it but what is the ideal height?
Where does Ted get the spruce trees from?
You all should do a pod cast with gene and Barry wensel
To my knowledge, we don't have many scotch pine in Arkansas. I even called a few Christmas tree farms. Apparently they are susceptible to a pinewood nematode common in the south. Will have to try with a yellow pine.
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I live in south Arkansas and have gave yellow pines and cedars a try and have had minimal success with both. This yr I'm gonna try the willows he talked about and also gonna try a red oak and sassafras because deer around here seem to hit them as much as anything else! Good luck with whatever you go with!!
Just made a horizontal rub this morning based on Ted's work in this area. Can't wait to see what happens over the next few weeks.
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@@mikeclement5383 No action! lol
Very smart man
Since I don't think scotch pines are native to Ms, I may be taking some loblolly pine limbs to Ks this fall! It is very sappy so I hope it works.
They aren't native to the US based off my research lol
They LOVE stag horn sumacs in our woods in southern Ohio
How about some sassafras tree ? Oh and zach looks like a bobble head . Lol
Just curious as to the height off the ground for the rubbing post and the height from the ground to the licking branch??
Chest high if you are 6 foot tall William
Is that a bobble head in the middle?
do you think that having the horizontal rub allows them to put more of the forehead gland scents than a normal natural rub?
kingfisherfd2 that could have something to do with it 👍🏼
Yes , it has everything to do with it. I live in central Alabama and I’ve cut a 5” to 7” diameter cedar to clear a shoot’n lane and it fell across a young pine and a stump. One end was 3’ off the ground and the other was maybe 5’ and a few days later I noticed that it had bn chewed on a bit and I took a closer look and that damn thing was torn up ! I could smell how bad it was and when I’m around other ribs, I can’t smell a anything. Even after 20 min of watching a big mature buck make a fresh rub. So I’m saying yes! It has everything to do with it!!
Use cedar in Alabama
Bully bucks moving into the area will ruin a properly managed hunting area more than anything. But @ the right time it might give u an encounter with a hard to pattern buck that us giving u fits. The key is to be there @ the right time b4 the Bully kills him. It's not really a case of it but when the buck u r after gets killed.
That ten shived jawbreaker that sucks, beautiful deer
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Guys down South, Cedar will work but Willow is Better! I use Willow. Fresher the better!
listen i do the same method that MR.Ted does that picked up from my grandfather .....only i use black widow scents on it and in scrape and its kiiiiler!!!!!!! deadly
i am pulling 45 pounds on my bow, and i would love to go bow hunting i am sighted in for 30 yards. Do you think 45 pounds could kill a deer at 30 yards?
Potentially but your odds go down the further the shot is. 15-20 yards is what you should shoot for starting out.
This a long time proven method
Hell. He makes horizontals, I piss in my scrapes. hell
Did this with a cedar next to food plot , in two years had zero bucks hit it.
Rodney Gilbert might outta listen to Ted and try scotch pine then
Once the limb dries out, they won't use it. Cedar dries out really fast, usually within a few weeks.
That's where l found out about it ,but no scotch pine here. I will try something else.
I dont like the using of wire. It gets loose deer gets tangled. Got to be a better idea.
I sent you a dm on instagram could you check it out it’s about buck beds
I am going to try this, this year. Wish me luck, but I am way more interested in shooting does. I am a meat hunter and don't really care about getting a buck. I need advice on and scents that work just for does.
That's awesome! We don't know much about using scents for deer. Does on the other hunt will bed much closer to the food sources than bucks. Does are also more prone to spotting you in the tree than bucks so make sure your hidden extremely well.
The Hunting Public: Due to my disability, I only hunt on the ground. Would appreciate any help you can in doe hunting.
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Agreed with that statement of a doe spotting you in a tree quicker than a buck. I personally don't see bucks in the woods heard them seen significant amount of sign in area of a buck or bucks in that area. But back to the doe I have had doe blowing 300 yards away because of someone else's scent dart my way stop 30 yards and "sky line" me. I have also had doe come in up wind in thick cover from cover to small opening. can't see deer till they are in opening. tree between me and deer as soon as she stepped out in the open she looked up . Doe are very self aware. And the doe that has done that has been living in my woods here in Pennsylvania for 5 years maybe longer I been getting pictures of her for 5 years at least. She is just as smart as a buck and is one I am hunting this year 2018.
As someone that hunts heavily pressured deer stay away from most scents. I don't use them anymore cause there are some that start saturating the woods with doe in heat first day of bow season, most deer know the difference
Scent free if any cover scent use acorn or apples thing about a doe is they are hardly ever alone so you will have more eyes hunting from a ground blind in an area you have daylight activity. If you don’t have a trail cam invest in them they will give you knowledge of deer movement and you can set up accordingly. Honestly I believe in pressured woods it’s harder to hunt the doe unless you have tons of deer than a buck that doe is almost never going to make a mistake but the buck he has different incentives for his movement
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Great information. But...…….Zach is like a bobblehead...…………...
The shot on that buck at about 30:18 made me cringe. Looked pretty far back. Hope he recovered it, if I had to guess I’d say that he prolly did.
P85037 L yes he did 👍🏼 unfortunately you can’t hit them perfect every time. But you can take good/ ethical shots and that’s exactly what Ted did.
The Hunting Public Good he recovered it. And I couldn’t agree more with you can’t hit em perfect every time. And yeah Ted is a great hunter. I know he wouldn’t take a bad shot. It’s crazy some shots don’t look that good but get the job done while others look really good and end up turning into a hell of a tracking job.
Anywho the horizontal rub setup that Ted came up with is awesome, very cool stuff!!
P85037 L glad you enjoyed the horizontal rub segment
I think the fletching end of the arrow kicked back and made that shot look worse than it really was. Broadhead entered in line with back of offside shoulder and should've deflated lungs pretty quickly. Helluva buck too! I love watching these horizontal rubs videos, just wish we had Scotch Pine down here in MS.
Who’s the girl, get a haircut pal,
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