Great video as always and very informative. So much so that I don't want this 😂 I wondered if it would suit my Kinetics Brommie but the more I watched the more I realised I didn't like it. Not impressed by the bracket and although in some ways I'd like to put my light there to free up space on bars, changing light modes on the move looks risky. Thinking back to last night I cycled through the park in the pitch dark on full beam mode illuminating my path. As I hit the road I changed to flashing mode, to be seen rather than to see. Easy without stopping with light on the bars but not sure I'd try that on the move. Its a small thing but the final nail for that light. Enjoyed the video though
I absolutely love these videos thank you guys! I just retired some of my trusty lezyne gear. (MegaXl, countless lights) People say they're old and outdated, I think they're designed resilient. Try finding usb c in some of these far flung places we all end up. The standard usb is cumbersome but hey it works and someone ALWAYS has one available. Desperate to try this bike out for size !
As always, informative video! I did have a look on your site and the Brompton site... and generally with a quick Google search and I don't seem to see this light anywhere - unless I am missing something. I see a light that looks a bit similar with a micro USB port (for charging) on the Brompton site.
Thanks for watching! Link as follows: brilliantbikes.co.uk/brompton-g-line-lights-fittings-and-reflectors/6702-brompton-g-line-front-battery-light.html
Enjoyed the video. Well presented, as always 😊 Apologies but just my findings on Lezyne: In particular, the 1000 XL. Ran out of juice from fully charged in under 2 hrs. On/off switch, silicone blister broke away after a few weeks. USB point awkward with tacky rubber protection cap, and it cost me approx £80 for the privilege 😮💨 I recommend Poundvalue, for a decent set of lights...Other value outlets are available 🤓
I have the G Line and have also fitted the front light. I thought it was just me doing something incorrect, I tried putting the washer behind the bracket but it's no better. I've noticed on yours even though you have tightend it down to 4nm it still pushes the musgaurd down to the tyre and i have notice on yours in the video that the bracket is not straight. Great video love the outakes lol
Thanks for watching and sharing your personal experience Brompton said that at the factory they use 5Nm We found 4Nm to be the best (Yes it was crooked - especially when trying to tighten to 9 Nm)
I wonder why light manufacturers have almost entirely gone over to lights you have to charge up. I use lights which are powered by AA or AAA batteries and I don’t have to worry about constant recharging. I put batteries in last winter and they’re still working now although I will replace now to ensure I have working lights through this winter. Other than that, this new light bracket looks like it could break easily, thin plastic. The Brompton light I bought with my M3L in early 2015 attaches to the handlebar and is still going strong after eight years of use with no sign of any deterioration. The new light patterns on this new light are excellent, however.
Interesting light. Something tells me i would prefer the “german”/euro version. Should have elaborated on the two. And yes that plastic attachment doesn’t look impressive at first but does keep the weight down. A bit of a clumsy design. Can the cateye ampp 500 with the metal brompton bracket be used?
Does Brompton have plans for a dynamo version of the G-line? I've been spoiled by not having to charge the light on my C-line (even if the default Brompton Dynamo light is pretty terrible) and I don't wanna go back.
If we were transporting one - we’d use the cardboard box it came in from Brompton - and pad it out with LOTS of clothes! There is (currently) no transport box
I guess that since the folded G-Line surely must be outside of the maximum size of regular luggage (i.e. bigger than 62 linear inches) it can only fly if you pay the additional fee for "sporting equipment". Meaning it's the same additional cost as a regular diamond frame non-folding bicycle. (Since the folded classic Brompton and its cardboard box are just inside those maximum luggage dimensions of 62 linear inches I assume that a folded G-Line and its cardboard box must surely be too large to fly as regular luggage) (Please correct me if I'm wrong)
Good question! We "think" that in Germany, flashing lights are not allowed - so the one made for the German market has no flashing mode - just steady We also "think" that there was a study somewhere that showed that flashing lights are more difficult to judge distance for drivers - hence the reason they aren't allowed in some countries
In Germany they have the StVZO regulations (Straßenverkehrs-Zulassungs-Ordnung), or Road Traffic Licensing Regulations. These don't allow flashing lights on bikes-just steady ones. The beams must be focussed downward on the road rather than as a big circle of light, so there is a marked vertical cutoff. This prevents blinding of other road users (bikes or cars). The prohibition on flashing lights is fairly sensible as it can be hard for drivers to judge the distance of bike on the road and this applies on bike paths, too. Similarly, rear lights can not have a flashing mode. The colour temperature of the beams on front lights must be under 5000K. When you ride with an StVZO light it's amazing how effective they are and how well they illuminate the road, rather than the sky.
@@michaeljones6144Yep, i’m running a 3 euro one I bought from Aktion in Saarbrucken in place of the original reflector on mine (already had a gopro mount there, bent the wire bracket that came with the light to fit in the mount and bolted it up), and the beam pattern is actually really useful for road riding, and didn’t bother putting the halfords 1000 lumen mega death beam I was using before back on
@@michaeljones6144 That’s why I fitted the Brompton dynamo system to my H6R, using an uprated B&M Premium Cyo Senso 80 lux front light bought from unused & 2nd-hand from eBay (who originally bought from BB) and I added a B&M 2C rear Dyno light. Permanently on every time I ride: daylight, dusk or night - no more charging LED lights (or forgetting).
We actually received our Brompton Electric demo yesterday - and set it up today Next comes the test ride and making a video (when the fog clears!) Just between you and us - we made one on a loan demo we had alongside the G Line manual - but we didn't like it - so decided to wait for our demo to arrive (approx 2 months later but it's finally here)
I had one of those Lezyne lights. V good but the rubber bung kept coming off. I ended up drilling it through and putting a cable tie through the hole. I think the light is a poor design and I prefer Cateye lights
I’ve got no idea how I managed to tighten bolts/nuts on my bikes ever since I was a young kid without the aid of a torque wrench and nothing ever fell off or broke 🤷♂️
My last Lezyne light filled up with water past the rubber button in a thunderstorm, and it shorted something on the circuit board. The light being just there will be subject to water spray off the front wheel. Not a brilliant design.
Thanks for watching and the feedback We look forwards to seeing how this one works out At least the mudguards are really good on the G Line so it should be well protected
Some out takes are really very funny. Giggled especially when you fitted the light the wrong way round and you couldn't get it off the bracket to charge it!! What a badly designed piece of essential accessory. Nothing beat can beat clip ons😂
This video would have been enhanced if you actually included a review of the light. Comments about its quality and lamp intensity would have been helpful and informative. You limited yourself to installation and operation.
Another great video from BB but as for the product that plastic bracket that deforms if you tighten it up too much and then presses the mudguard into the tyre WHAT A CRAP DESIGN!! I think a bit more development and testing by Brompton required bullet proof and five minutes during a tea break on something as important as being safely seen How come they can spend thousand of hours testing the bike to make sure is
...they installed on mine, one on the fork, like the first one, with similar maximum luminance, so I m not sure why this one would not fulfill the German traffic regulations...?! I find the solutions on the steering not optimal...!
Thanks for watching. German law requires that the lights are consistent, so no pulse or flash mode, the beam is also directed so as not to dazzle other road uses. So the UK version is perfect for the UK, just not Germany
I had one of those Lezyne lights, it never charged consistently and after not long didnt charge at all. Also, far too much weight to hang off a USB port. Worst possible choice.
Thanks for watching and for sharing your experience of the light (personally we've never liked lights where you plug the whole light in for charging rather than connecting a cable - as you say there's the weight, but also dirt / moisture!)
Thanks for watching and your comment Would you care to share / elaborate on your thoughts of what's bad in every way? We think the light is quite nice - a good quality CNC Lezyne light / bright beam and easily rechargeable
First thing that came up after watching torquing that bracket. Why not make it in the shape so it fits the fork? If you torque it it should stay it the place where it is supposed to be. Now you can actually rotate it and it might not stay in place with all these bumps. Also a fixed beam height?
Beam pattern is stricter in Germany. Source I lived in UK and Germany. StVZO Straßenverkehrs-Zulassungs-Ordnung Set regulations sort of like DVSA in UK. The beam pattern shields the top of the light projection to avoid glare to other road users. Irony is some German cars with new LED headlights are absolutely blinding on main beam. Go figure .
I honestly have no intention about buying a G-line, as I find it too heavy and it fills too much and can't be stoved in my cars luggage room, with just enough room for my ordinary/extraordinary, 9 kilo, former Superlight. And I also don't like loose pedals, to be lost, eventually! But I still like to watch Your films about Bromptons, so it really doesn't matter 😁! Finn. Denmark
Great question We wanted to see what happened when we followed the instructions It actually followed on from a customer asking why when following them it didn’t seem right
Great video as always and very informative. So much so that I don't want this 😂 I wondered if it would suit my Kinetics Brommie but the more I watched the more I realised I didn't like it. Not impressed by the bracket and although in some ways I'd like to put my light there to free up space on bars, changing light modes on the move looks risky. Thinking back to last night I cycled through the park in the pitch dark on full beam mode illuminating my path. As I hit the road I changed to flashing mode, to be seen rather than to see. Easy without stopping with light on the bars but not sure I'd try that on the move. Its a small thing but the final nail for that light. Enjoyed the video though
Thanks so much for watching! Glad you enjoyed it!
As always, crystal clear!
Thank you and thank you for watching!
I absolutely love these videos thank you guys! I just retired some of my trusty lezyne gear. (MegaXl, countless lights) People say they're old and outdated, I think they're designed resilient. Try finding usb c in some of these far flung places we all end up. The standard usb is cumbersome but hey it works and someone ALWAYS has one available. Desperate to try this bike out for size !
Thanks for watching! Are you close enough to come for a demo ride?
As always, informative video! I did have a look on your site and the Brompton site... and generally with a quick Google search and I don't seem to see this light anywhere - unless I am missing something. I see a light that looks a bit similar with a micro USB port (for charging) on the Brompton site.
Thanks for watching!
Link as follows:
brilliantbikes.co.uk/brompton-g-line-lights-fittings-and-reflectors/6702-brompton-g-line-front-battery-light.html
Enjoyed the video. Well presented, as always 😊 Apologies but just my findings on Lezyne: In particular, the 1000 XL. Ran out of juice from fully charged in under 2 hrs. On/off switch, silicone blister broke away after a few weeks. USB point awkward with tacky rubber protection cap, and it cost me approx £80 for the privilege 😮💨 I recommend Poundvalue, for a decent set of lights...Other value outlets are available 🤓
Thanks for watching and for the feedback. Hmmm let’s see how it performs, but an hour at 500 lumens is not a great length of time!
I have the G Line and have also fitted the front light. I thought it was just me doing something incorrect, I tried putting the washer behind the bracket but it's no better. I've noticed on yours even though you have tightend it down to 4nm it still pushes the musgaurd down to the tyre and i have notice on yours in the video that the bracket is not straight. Great video love the outakes lol
Thanks for watching and sharing your personal experience
Brompton said that at the factory they use 5Nm
We found 4Nm to be the best
(Yes it was crooked - especially when trying to tighten to 9 Nm)
I think I'll be going with one that mounts on the handlebars of my G-line to make it easer to change modes.
Thanks for watching! They do come with the handlebar mount 😀
@@brilliantbikes I may need to order one then.
You get more light on the road with the light mounted higher up, too. This is particularly true with the smaller-wheeled Bromptons, of course.
Isn’t this light a little bit underwhelming for a gravel bike (1 hour at 500lm)?
Even the regular Brompton AMPP500 last longer (1.5 hours).
Thank you for watching and for the comment. We agree an hours not ideal!
I wonder why light manufacturers have almost entirely gone over to lights you have to charge up. I use lights which are powered by AA or AAA batteries and I don’t have to worry about constant recharging. I put batteries in last winter and they’re still working now although I will replace now to ensure I have working lights through this winter.
Other than that, this new light bracket looks like it could break easily, thin plastic. The Brompton light I bought with my M3L in early 2015 attaches to the handlebar and is still going strong after eight years of use with no sign of any deterioration.
The new light patterns on this new light are excellent, however.
Thanks for watching! I guess it’s a move to rechargeable batteries. So far it seems robust enough!
Let’s hope those who buy a G- Line will see the light first.
lol! Yes! Thanks for watching!
@@brilliantbikes thanks for reading .
Great video as always H 😊. But would it have killed brompton to produce a metal bracket???😏
Thanks for watching! I fear I rather prefer the old one, for the C / P line
🙂👍
Thank you for watching!
Interesting light. Something tells me i would prefer the “german”/euro version. Should have elaborated on the two. And yes that plastic attachment doesn’t look impressive at first but does keep the weight down. A bit of a clumsy design. Can the cateye ampp 500 with the metal brompton bracket be used?
Thanks for watching. No the C line bracket won’t work it’s a different shape! Sorry
Does Brompton have plans for a dynamo version of the G-line? I've been spoiled by not having to charge the light on my C-line (even if the default Brompton Dynamo light is pretty terrible) and I don't wanna go back.
Thanks for watching! Sorry we are not aware of a dynamo front wheel yet.
The light looks kind of wrong...hope it works well. Looking forward to a titanium G line in the near future.
Thanks for watching! We also can’t wait for them to develop one!
Would any other Lezyne stronger/longer lasting lights fit the bracket/release mechanism?
We will have a try and see what we can use
Thanks for watching!
@ that would be so so helpful.
How do you transport the G line on a plane? Does the standard Brompton hard shell suitcase fit??
If we were transporting one - we’d use the cardboard box it came in from Brompton - and pad it out with LOTS of clothes!
There is (currently) no transport box
I guess that since the folded G-Line surely must be outside of the maximum size of regular luggage (i.e. bigger than 62 linear inches) it can only fly if you pay the additional fee for "sporting equipment".
Meaning it's the same additional cost as a regular diamond frame non-folding bicycle.
(Since the folded classic Brompton and its cardboard box are just inside those maximum luggage dimensions of 62 linear inches I assume that a folded G-Line and its cardboard box must surely be too large to fly as regular luggage)
(Please correct me if I'm wrong)
why a different light in germany ? Thanks for your video
Good question!
We "think" that in Germany, flashing lights are not allowed - so the one made for the German market has no flashing mode - just steady
We also "think" that there was a study somewhere that showed that flashing lights are more difficult to judge distance for drivers - hence the reason they aren't allowed in some countries
In Germany they have the StVZO regulations (Straßenverkehrs-Zulassungs-Ordnung), or Road Traffic Licensing Regulations. These don't allow flashing lights on bikes-just steady ones. The beams must be focussed downward on the road rather than as a big circle of light, so there is a marked vertical cutoff. This prevents blinding of other road users (bikes or cars). The prohibition on flashing lights is fairly sensible as it can be hard for drivers to judge the distance of bike on the road and this applies on bike paths, too. Similarly, rear lights can not have a flashing mode. The colour temperature of the beams on front lights must be under 5000K. When you ride with an StVZO light it's amazing how effective they are and how well they illuminate the road, rather than the sky.
@@michaeljones6144Yep, i’m running a 3 euro one I bought from Aktion in Saarbrucken in place of the original reflector on mine (already had a gopro mount there, bent the wire bracket that came with the light to fit in the mount and bolted it up), and the beam pattern is actually really useful for road riding, and didn’t bother putting the halfords 1000 lumen mega death beam I was using before back on
Thanks for both the question and the answer.
@@michaeljones6144 That’s why I fitted the Brompton dynamo system to my H6R, using an uprated B&M Premium Cyo Senso 80 lux front light bought from unused & 2nd-hand from eBay (who originally bought from BB) and I added a B&M 2C rear Dyno light. Permanently on every time I ride: daylight, dusk or night - no more charging LED lights (or forgetting).
Full electric g line vid coming soon?
Yes! We got our electric demo bike, so hope to get to it soon!
Thanks for watching!
Been searching around is there any update on the electric?
We actually received our Brompton Electric demo yesterday - and set it up today
Next comes the test ride and making a video (when the fog clears!)
Just between you and us - we made one on a loan demo we had alongside the G Line manual - but we didn't like it - so decided to wait for our demo to arrive (approx 2 months later but it's finally here)
@ I hope your demo works out better. I really wanting one. Looking forward to the video
I had one of those Lezyne lights. V good but the rubber bung kept coming off. I ended up drilling it through and putting a cable tie through the hole. I think the light is a poor design and I prefer Cateye lights
Thanks for watching, and the comment. Let’s see how they last.
How is the blinding factor of this light, as it's not an StVZO light?
I’ve got no idea how I managed to tighten bolts/nuts on my bikes ever since I was a young kid without the aid of a torque wrench and nothing ever fell off or broke 🤷♂️
Good point - and well made!
Can you test g line in public transport?
Yes, it’s a folding bike, so should be fine!
Thanks for watching
@brilliantbikes that's imo much more interesting than managing usb c
My last Lezyne light filled up with water past the rubber button in a thunderstorm, and it shorted something on the circuit board. The light being just there will be subject to water spray off the front wheel. Not a brilliant design.
Thanks for watching and the feedback
We look forwards to seeing how this one works out
At least the mudguards are really good on the G Line so it should be well protected
Would have liked to have seen it with bag too. Seems it's all a bit "just" and fouls mudguards whatever you do....
Thanks for watching. We will add that into one of our future videos
Some out takes are really very funny. Giggled especially when you fitted the light the wrong way round and you couldn't get it off the bracket to charge it!!
What a badly designed piece of essential accessory. Nothing beat can beat clip ons😂
Thanks so much for watching to the end! We also laughed at me taking so much care to fit it the wrong way round! Aaahhh! Got there in the end!
That is one complicated light. Just how you recharge it is annoying, like an old 90’s design. Sad how Brompton has changed.
Thanks for watching! Kind of agree not sure about the light yet!
9 Nm to tighten a piece of plastic to a fork? That's nuts.
Yup, sounds like a typo!
Thanks for watching!
This video would have been enhanced if you actually included a review of the light. Comments about its quality and lamp intensity would have been helpful and informative. You limited yourself to installation and operation.
Thanks for watching and the comment! We rather wanted to get it made to explain about the too tight torque in the instructions
Another great video from BB but as for the product that plastic bracket that deforms if you tighten it up too much and then presses the mudguard into the tyre
WHAT A CRAP DESIGN!!
I think a bit more development and testing by Brompton required bullet proof and five minutes during a tea break on something as important as being safely seen
How come they can spend thousand of hours testing the bike to make sure is
Thank you for watching! The feedback has not been great so far!
...they installed on mine, one on the fork, like the first one, with similar maximum luminance, so I m not sure why this one would not fulfill the German traffic regulations...?! I find the solutions on the steering not optimal...!
Thanks for watching. German law requires that the lights are consistent, so no pulse or flash mode, the beam is also directed so as not to dazzle other road uses. So the UK version is perfect for the UK, just not Germany
Make Cycling Great Again - Happy MAGAday everyone😃
Thanks for watching
Another poor design from Brompton, what was wrong with the cateye bracket used on all other bromptons?
Thanks for watching. We need to double check but I don’t think it will fit, based on the shape
@@brilliantbikes Indeed it doesn't fit. And I guess you can't buy new mount separately from the light.
I had one of those Lezyne lights, it never charged consistently and after not long didnt charge at all. Also, far too much weight to hang off a USB port. Worst possible choice.
Thanks for watching and for sharing your experience of the light (personally we've never liked lights where you plug the whole light in for charging rather than connecting a cable - as you say there's the weight, but also dirt / moisture!)
What an awful piece of equipment.
Thank you for watching! TBH the feedback has not been great!
Bad design in every possible way
Thanks for watching and your comment
Would you care to share / elaborate on your thoughts of what's bad in every way?
We think the light is quite nice - a good quality CNC Lezyne light / bright beam and easily rechargeable
@ yeah the bracket should not be touching to the mud guard at all regardless of the screw tension. Also the charging process is tedious and outdated.
First thing that came up after watching torquing that bracket. Why not make it in the shape so it fits the fork? If you torque it it should stay it the place where it is supposed to be. Now you can actually rotate it and it might not stay in place with all these bumps. Also a fixed beam height?
What is the difference between the UK and German lights ?
Beam pattern is stricter in Germany. Source I lived in UK and Germany. StVZO Straßenverkehrs-Zulassungs-Ordnung Set regulations sort of like DVSA in UK. The beam pattern shields the top of the light projection to avoid glare to other road users.
Irony is some German cars with new LED headlights are absolutely blinding on main beam. Go figure .
I honestly have no intention about buying a G-line, as I find it too heavy and it fills too much and can't be stoved in my cars luggage room, with just enough room for my ordinary/extraordinary, 9 kilo, former Superlight. And I also don't like loose pedals, to be lost, eventually! But I still like to watch Your films about Bromptons, so it really doesn't matter 😁! Finn. Denmark
Thanks for watching!!! We really appreciate it!
No way, no type c charger, my cateye on my T line is way better.
Thanks for watching!
Why didn't you just tighten it up to 'common sense' tension?!!!
Great question
We wanted to see what happened when we followed the instructions
It actually followed on from a customer asking why when following them it didn’t seem right
What a crappy design
Thanks for watching! We were a little surprised!