Good or Useless? Russian Turtle Tanks
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- We have seen Russians use all kinds of things to protect their tanks from the FPV drones, from regular cope cages to massive nets covering entire vehicles. But recently there has been a new player on the field, the turtle tank.
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Outro: "face away" - svard
Ah yes, Da Vinci once again proved that he is genius.
He was too smart for his time
reject modernity, embrace tradition
Nature has the best ideas
*Bob Semple. None of his tanks were ever lost in action.
ornithopters next
Everyone laughed at the corrugated metal armor of the Bob Semple tank, look who is laughing now
So Bob Semple failed because it wasn't worn by another tank?
Remember the Bob Semple? This is him now. Feeling old yet?
Who's laughing now? Still everyone.
But Bob Sample was and is the best tank in the world with 0 tank lost to combat...
@@danh7411 Most stealthy tank ever too. Everyone is aware of it but nobody ever spotted it in combat.
"Hey, where is my house?"
Suspiciously house-shaped tank :
this one cracked me up, thank you
More of a pig-pen than a house
@@theelmonk In Ukraine and eastern Russia pig-pens are qualified as house
lol
@@akusav333 No. In Ukraine and Russia, doesn't matter, European Russia or Asian, pig pens considered as sheds. So you missed there
Everything evolves into crabs, except instead of crabs it's Hetzers.
Hahahahaha 😂
>literally a barn on tracks
>advances about a kilometer into enemy positions without support
>drops fpv drones like mosquitoes
>refuses to elaborate
>returns back
tutel
Single guy runs behind it with a stachel charge or bunch of duck taped grenade and you get a free mobility kill
@@gamedude412 I can think of 5 reasons that's not going to work
@@gamedude412 We can see that you're a gamedude but this ain't Battlefield3
@@gamedude412 yea.... ok this is not call of duty. Infantry are not running up to tanks and placing satchel charges on them.
You see on the battlefield if your exposed, even for a second your life is in grave danger.
@@islandwills2778 this is cod of duty
You're all wrong, this is for sentimental purposes. The crew of this tank will always feel at home.
😂
😂😂😂
tutel
It surely is my friend
🐢
🐢 yes 👍
Tutel :D
Yak-2-Kaab
2020: Ha ha Russians are welding iron beds to tanks.
2022: Now everyone does it
2024: Ha ha the Russians made a turtle out of a tank with the help of iron fences.
I'll wait until 2026
I'm afraid to imagine what will happen to tanks in 10 years
@@АнчыБалдан-ь7т With the development of drones and their cheapness, the tank becomes an easy target. I think in the future we will return to heavy tanks again, if at all.
@@DedHobbit I dont think so, modern tanks will probably start having mini anti-air turrets or jamming weapons that automatically destroy incoming drones and slow projectiles
@@seb3209 There is an "active protection complex". Well, I'm sure that the translator will translate it correctly into English. The bottom line is that the "active protection" explodes rocket-propelled grenades on approach to the tank. Probably, if we improve this system, it will cope well with drones. I sincerely hope that the translator translated all this correctly and did not turn it into a set of meaningless words. Because translators are very bad at translating terms, abbreviations, etc.
@@DedHobbit Don't worry, the translation is fine. I am aware of the trophy system, but that seems more specialised for high speed projectiles at close ranges. I'm thinking of something more along the lines of what the Spanish company 'Escribano' is doing, basically a machine gun turret combined with a tracking camera system.
Kill-dozer guy was way ahead of his time 😂
Seriously, since the primary threat to Russian armor seems to be smaller drone carried munitions, this seems a reasonable position. I'm sure the command in the field better understand the theater threats than we do, at home.
Pretty much , the turtle tank is basically invencible vs cheap drones dropping grenades from the top , and has a bigger protection against rpgs , since welding some metal sheets isn't that expensive , the solution seems good enough
i have another theory: we dont have things like that in the west because it doesnt require big industry. and big price tags. and that seems to be the end-all-be-all in NATO...simple cheap isnt what we do...
@@simonschneider5913 that too, for sure
The drones are only an elevated threat because the Ukrainians have shortages of better anti-tank methods. It isn't due to drones overtaking the battlefield due to their superiority.
Remember slat armour proliferating in western vehicles during their deployment in the conflicts in the middle east, facing low tech insurgents with RPGs. The additional weight is not a grave disadvantage in those kinds of threat environments, but would be in a more symmetrical situation. Some of the Russian improvisations in this war seem to be pretty ridiculous, such as this, but is perhaps a reaction to a threat environment where their opponent is running out of other means than drones.
It's likely not drone protection because a metal net or wire fence over a metal frame would be just as effective and easier to build.
This is 100% slavic engineering at its finest.
at least we never give up, if you were in our position in ww2 you would surrender 99.99% chance just look at french
@@maki3904
You literally have 0% idea about the war in France then. French soldiers were willing to fight the invaders. That was the politicians and old geezer generals which didn't want to learn anything new who surrendered the country to germans.
If USSR had bullshit generals and government officials then no fierce resistance of the soviet people would have helped against better organized and far more experienced enemy
@@maki3904 i am slavic from balkan, we dont surrender at any given time, we die or we win, no matter the means we always fight, and I say again as a slavic person this is slavic engineering at its finest, it means as crude as it may seem as a slav to adapt by any means available to the situation is a trait a slav has, and that is in its core a trait that is linked to survival. A slavic person no matter if its balkan, poland, russain and so on, is a survivor which history will prove from time to time again and again.
2:03 the point of the tank going all that way, was to scout ahead and clear mine fields for the convoy behind it (for some reason he doesn’t show the part where the tank is clearing the mines)
The idea of this cage came from the need to protect the tanks from drones attack, but it was also combined with the idea to use the tank with irreparably broken turret turning mechanism instead of just getting rid of it. The first tank we observed on the video was used as a de-mining truck leading a pack of tanks or BMP’s through the minefield. The next iteration of this tank is on a second video - it was used as an assault/ reconnaissance in combat tank. Certainly, this is just a handcrafted field adaptations, but they really show possible new direction of the tanks development.
True, though honestly it looks more of either desperation on either the supply chain that tanks can't be sent back for proper repair or salvage. If not desperation then (and probably far more true) neglect on the brass (COs) side of things where field mod ghetto mine clearing is needed.
@@crocidile90 I think it is neither of those. This is just the reflection of the fact that field adaptation happens much faster than industrial adaptation, which has to go through bureaucratic processes ( idea assessment, concept development, concept assessment and selection, etc…) before it reaches production. In the battlefield all these processes happen simultaneously, failed concepts don’t go anywhere, successful ones go into handcraft production, after prove of concept - can go directly to industrial production. Basically, the battlefield is a testing field at the same time. So, we happen to observe concept prove step in military innovation process.
Battlefield adaptability by the soldiers and crew basically
@@crocidile90 If you really believe it's desperation for losing hardware then you must be completely disconnected from reality. Those people are trying to keep their heads lol. Who gives a shit about the tank.
Imagine getting into the turtle and telling your superior officer "Hey man, how do we fight with this? the guns drive is jammed, we cannot fight back in this" and your officer just goes "You do not fight. You are just a moving target. You clear mines by driving over them. Good luck"
Seeing this in action with the sped up footage it reminds me of these videos of moving single-celled organisms
This guy gets it
Watching it shimle through city has to be one of the most funniest things that has come out of this war
For those who are interested. Those turtle tanks are only meant to be clearing the road from mines for the rest of the vehicles. They are not loaded with ammo and only the driver is present.
Exactly. I would like to see an actual production model that would be remotely-operated with tons of sensors for the same task, that would be interesting.
My disappointment is immeasurable and my day has thus been ruined.
No driver. Its remote
what happens is the tracks are destroyed?
they are used for indirect shooting. There was avideo like few mons ago when tc of one of thoose tanks sayed this
I love Russian improvisation, unironically. People laugh but this can legit bounce off drone grenades.
and not be able to shoot... genious! vodka and idiocracy
@@vay6901 it does not need to shoot its just there to clear mines and be support vehicle
@@moemoo11 even more useless... Walking coffin.
Russian logic and its supporters logic never cease to amaze me.
If its a mine cleaner then clearly the driver inside will be dead, and you cant use the tank to shoot again
It will also not soak up any drones because i doubt Ukrainian pilots are dumb enough to try to hit it
@@vay6901 It's a mine clearing vehicle. It's not supposed to shoot. It's supposed to lead the convoy and open a way
@@vay6901 u talk like a true idiot lol
"What you're seeing is Advancded Warfare"
If the metal sheets don't hinder communications, the tank can be "radio controlled" by the means of surveillance drone, in this case the commander may not even be present inside the tank.
As for it's purpose, i'm 70% sure it's riding around to draw fire, making enemy to waste ammunition and discover their positions before the main event.
yup... Russians have a lot of tanks. I am sure they have drone surveillance to see where the enemy fire is coming from. Then order the artillery park to bombard the enemy position.
Its for clearing mines
It's clearing mines in the video. That's why it makes a u turn after reaching a point.
@@vlodagon I'm afraid that's one Ukrainian know-how Russia doesn't want to steal. Looks like it has a side effect of running out of live meat and losing the war.
@@vlodagon Tanks are extremely expensive only in corrupt countries like USA
Born too late to explore the world, born too soon to explore the space, but just in time to witness the reborn of A7V with all of its glory
At this rate, they're a half step away from assaulting the enemy with a whistle and a revolver.
@@wargamingrefugee9065
War, war always changes then changes back…
-Nuke Man 4
It looks more like a modernized battering ram
@@graftsilver6547 idk man, it look lotta alike german jadgpanther
@@wargamingrefugee9065..we did witness some ww1 tactics tho no? Trench and even digging tunnel to enemies blind spot and go through sewer to attack..
Also if I not mistaken the rus is famously using shovel for melee combat in bakmut(?)
Say what you want about this thing but the fact that it made a tour of Krasnogorivka and came back in one piece is pretty damm impressive.
Where the hell was everyone in that town
@@palerewin Shitting themselves in fear.
Seeing that abomination scared them
@@palerewin 3rd Brigade Azov was or is still there but the Russian advance there is getting more and more unrelenting too.
There are rumors of Azov refusing to fight there but it's a rumor so take it with a grain of salt.
It aint stupid if it work.
If something looks stupid but works then it's not stupid
1:58 i dont know why but it looks so funny to me how there driving it
It's a shy tiny house trying to find its place in this world, please don't laugh at it 👉👈
@@NJ-wb1cz 🤣🤣🤣
ukranian watching a fucking barn charge their position
@@NJ-wb1cz😂
It's a cute tank looking for a few apples
StuG: “You could not live with your own failure. And where did that bring you? Back to me.”
Soviets also had its own family of “turtle” tanks.
We just embrace old traditions of “german zoo killers”
Если работает, то не важно, как выглядит - от гранат поможет, от ВОГ поможет, от дронов поможет и даже от кумулятивного снаряда частично поможет, струя частично рассеется.
Turtle Tank needs a theme song!
TMNT theme song.
Blyatmobil
Blyat Man hardbass.
Steptoe & Son !
Iggy Pop, I am a passenger
Sturmpanzerwagen my beloved
There was once Maus tank. Now there is Haus tank! Modern problems need modern solutions.
@@geronimo5537 по аналогии с Маусом в США было разработано такое самоходка Т-29 "Черепаха "с лобовой бронёй в 300 мм.
Another meme tank to the collection!
When is the slug going to add it to war thunder? We want it!
Video games in twenty years are going to have some obscure technology to add during April Fools.
War thunder where’s my turtle tank????
Shed of the Dead, Blyatmobile, Cope Can... yeah it's been memed numerous times to say the least.
The A7V Sturmpanzer kampfwagen is reborn!!!
WW1 German tank right? Same thought as mine.
But it's worse than that.
@@soylentgreen6082 how does it feel... being incredibly wrong?
@@soylentgreen6082they took a city with it xd
@@artemefimov8215 Which city?
A new War Thunder update : " Track Shack"
This reminds me of when our troops used carboard and plywood as add-on armor for their vehicles in the 2017 Marawi City Siege. Perhaps some of you have seen the writings on some of these vehicles such as the "Free WiFi tank". And yes, I'm aware that we did not use proper tanks during the siege; that's just what people like to refer to them as.
It worked for AFP so i guess Russia is tryna do the same
True ingenuity.
We’re seeing the return of turretless assault guns
Revenge of the turretless
Its all fun and games until the shed starts aiming at you!
Lmao
Why is the house moving?
1:55 - Russian sources claim the vehicle was dropping off paratroopers into the factory and cover.
Which would explain it's incursion, and the turtle cage covering and protecting the troops from all the shrapnel being flinged at the tank from the artillery landing around.
Can't take anything Ru says seriously. It's all just Maskirovka at this point.
Makes no sense to drop a single squad off all on its own and completely separated from any replenishment/reinforcements by like 1000 - 2000m of no man's land with 24/7 drone surveillance.
My guess would be it's an up-armored mine clearer/probe to test the waters and clear/scout out a path to the factory for potential future mechanized assaults.
@@a564-c3q You need to keep in mind that we only see a fraction of what's going on, just because in one video you can see one tank, doesn't mean on the field is just one tank, we are watching from one lense.
But yes Russia, Ukraine, the US, all participate HEAVILLY in propaganda and rhetoric, but it does make sense, if you have to transport infantry, it makes sense to put on a cage to protect them like I said above does it not?
@@a564-c3q "Can't take anything Ru says seriously." Says someone with ukrainian flag on avatar 🤭🥳
That's thin sheet metal, it offers literally zero protection from shrapnel.
@@a564-c3q The things Ukraine says are 2x more hilarious
I still remember that at first people laugh at Russian "cope cages" and later the Ukraine started to use it too 😂
Israel usa também.
Wow. We've come full circle with tanks
WW1: moving metal barns with csnnons
Interwar: small lightly armored things with small cannons
WW2: big heavily armored tanks or fast light tanks
Cold War: early MBTS with good Armour, speed and big guns
1990-2022: Advanced MBTS that have too much stuff to list on them
Now: fast moving heavy metal barns with big cannons
Yes, fast moving heavy metal barns with cannons who's some advanced stuff is broken.
Somehow though the Mk IV had thicker armor.
This aint a tank, it’s an extremely old T-72 with broken turret rotation that is used as a support vehicle, there is no ammo and gunner/commander present, just the driver
Tank is a circle
@@hedgehog3180 yeah it does look like it but i think it was between 10-20 mm of Steel, you could shoot that thing with a T-Gewehr after all. Also the Gun/Machine gun ports had big holes so if you got close enough you could just yeet a grenade in there and that would take care of it.
1965 - "what will the future of combat look like"
"Sir it will be like some sort of incredible war among the stars, technologies on a level the human imagination cannot yet even fathom"
2024 - ________
Lots of WW1 & WW2 vibes
T-U-R-T-L-E power
@@honorguard7616 WW1 and WW2 but with drones.
Welcome back, my beloved friend, A7V
There is two other benefit of this over just a mesh. And thats thermal and visual locking of western AT weapons. Systems like the Javelin for example use a visual database. Now these systems are designed to hit armor. Not sheds. The warhead doesn't really "know" that the shed is moving. It just knows its outline so to speak.
So someone trying to lock onto it with a Javelin for example can't get a lock.
Thats #1. #2 is thermal. This standoff slat cage is not a mesh, meaning anything IR radiating off the tank will hit the inner sides of the cage. Only the mounts are in direct metal contact and transfer heat too it. But then also it acts as a big heatsink with alot of air around it, and metal has a tendency to radiate all its energy faster to the surroundings. Thats why in ambient environments metals are cold to the touch more than other materials.
Based on that I conclude that this cage makes it almost invisible to infrared cameras and will just have the same signature as the background. And even if its a little bit warmer, again the system might just see a metal shed which is a false positive and the system wants to avoid it.
Imagine a tank in an urban environment and the AT system suddenly locks on to a metal shed close to it. That possibility was trained out of the system.
So not only is this thing a shaped charge defense against drones, it also is a pretty good camouflage against guided weapons.
The only systems which could defeat this would be semi manual like laser guided or cable, like TOW/Konkurs.
Other than that only unguided weapons like NLAW, MAAWS, Carl Gustav, pzF3 would be effective, and you don't see any of those being shot, and also the adjacent BMPs would rip those infantry to shreds very quickly.
As I said on another video from someone else. Might look silly, might just be against drones, but it seemingly has a whole other host of benefits hardly any "civilian" thinks about, because not many people know how modern antitank weapons work.
And these shaped charge penetrators were tested against parallel plates, which this clearly is not, so the penetrator could even be deflected slightly hitting this thing at an angle, and then be deflected even more hitting the real armor, or even hit a piece of ERA.
Interesting. Thanks for that. 🙂
Shaped charge is also needed to explode on certain range from the armor to maiximze its penetrating power. Having explode early by hitting the cage mean less penetrating power which increase survivability
@@royk7712Well yeah, but I think only very new RPG munitions can even do that.
And ontop of that all other modern AT weapons self destruct after a specific distance so there are no duds laying around potentially. I think even the older RPG heads do that.
Because with distance it loses to much speed and might not engage the fuse if its too slow.
One thing I'd like to know is if our modern tanks use the "space armor" principle".
Spacecraft have a kinda hollow armor which is made up of alot of cubes you could say that are diagonal to the outside. So any micro pebbele that hits the spacecraft will be deflected a few times and can even get turned around. Since all that military stuff is so top secret these days, I am fairly certain that is also utilised in tanks. And then filled with composites and rubber to dissipate the energy of penetrators or make them get of course.
Shaped charges really are not as great anymore, you really have to hit a weakspot these days. And drone charges are too small anyways, well the UA drones are they barely carry any payload. Its enough to maybe disable a tank, but outright destroy one seems they never do.
So they have prevented topside attacks. The tank tracks are still exposed and a drone attack will make a mobility kill, and therefore a mission kill. The crew can stay aboard if they want to see what Ukrainian artillery can do against a stationary target.
@@frankduncan5685Thats alot of wishful thinking. You can't blow these wide tracks off with a shaped charge. Thats not how shaped charges work. They make a tiny hole of about 1-2 cm diameter in what they hit, and thats it. Its what comes out the other side thats dangerous. So when an FPV drone with a shaped charge hits the track, nothing will happen. Bit of smoke, and the dirt underneath the track will have a puddle of a bit of molten metal. Thats about it.
2:00
I think the driver was directed by the drone oprator, so it's just a "TAKE THE NEXT RIGHT TURN CYKA" moment.
Takes backseat driving to a whole new level.
They are directed all time in any vehicle
The drone operator is route layer and commander
💯
i think it more like " medium left, long, long, long turn in" lmao
@@SonNguyen-tq2po “plz stop Ivan you are breaking the tank, you are breaking the tank!”
“Stop telling me how to drive!”
Makes me think of how the Soviets tried attaching mesh screens to their tanks in WW2 as a defense against Panzerfausts
Very little has changed!
Battlezone was a prophetic warning from the 80's
Ah, those old vector-graphics games.
Blyat-Mobile stronk.
that is a mine clearing tank, that is why it is driving 'erratically'. it is clearing a path. the barn on top doesn't stop the mines but the plow on the front does.
Explanation I saw for the first instance of such a tank on a Telegram channel was that the turret ring was damaged, locking it in one position and was unrepairable. As there are mechanical service centres near the front I imagine someone got the idea to utilise it in some form by covering with this metal sheeting. In one video I saw, it had mine clearing rollers in front.
you don't need side view in this war scenario becuase everything left and right is covered with minefields and traps. those tanks are made to clear paths for further attacks and supply lines for the infantry at the line of fire
Pretty sure that cameras are mounted with the jammer package on the roof making the turtle tank a massive manned FPV drone.
If anything, situational awareness is probably enhanced with cameras vs. periscopes.
This your typical field crafts by engineers to solve a local problem. A great example for the US is the creation of “gun trucks” and the Puff the Magic Dragon during Vietnam. Drones have changed warfare forever and the US is taking notes of how to deal with them effectively in the future.
The way of the turtle
Tortoise.
tutel
Master Woogway.
Whether it looks stupid or not, as long as it works that's great, just my analysis
"Tutel!"
♪ 2:23AM playing in background
Hold on. I thought shape charges can be sabotaged from forming by such barriers even close to the armor, it's why so many tanks like Armata, T-90, Challenger have them, and indeed why the cope cages are used. In that case, this whole contraption can actually work against shaped charges. Also, I think it's made to deflect regular dropped grenades from drones, which is why the roof is angled. Making side slits into the sheet metal might allow a grenade to roll inside the cage, so maybe that's why they don't make them.
Author said that shape charge penetrate most thin armor plates of the roof, rear and sides of that tank. But even if it will penetrate the after-armor effect will be greatly decreased
The purpose built slat armour kits you see on other tanks work the same way as cope cages designed to cause a shaped charge warhead to detonate before contacting the main armour causing the plasma jet of the shaped charge to have to cross an air gap before it can affect the tank this substantially reduces the effectiveness of older anti tank munitions such as the Milan or RPG 7 but more modern systems have tandem warheads to deal with exactly this problem a secondary charge detonates first driving the main charge through the add on armour before it detonates in contact with the hull. This modification will certainly reduce their vulnerability to cheap lightweight munitions that can be easily mounted on a disposable drone however the huge weight increase and restrictions to the tanks already awful situational awareness have to cause serious problems. I suspect these tanks are barely functional and have been stripped of almost all their internals simply to prevent the suspension from collapsing under the pressure. They are acting as lures probably with only a gunner and driver being commanded remotely by drone with a handful of main gun rounds and using their coaxial machine gun for defence while clearing routes for more functional vehicles and drawing fire from Ukrainian positions. Not a terrible tactic with all the armour they've needlessly lost so far if a bit hard on the poor basterds volentold to drive the bullet magnet.
What s bunch of theoretical blather... Anyone following the war knows they have been very successful with these tanks and that's probably the main reason they continue to use them.
"I personally wouldn't do it", says the armchair warrior who is not on the frontlines :D
It literally removes any advantage a turret gives you (while keeping all the disadvantages) and means you have worse situational awareness than just about anything.
@@MajinOthinus And?
@@MajinOthinus and this thing isnt even supposed to do the job of a tank, i think that is more than obvious? Its clearly always used as the first vehicle in the collumn to clear mines and jam drones..
@@MajinOthinusIt’s modifies to be a support vehicle, not a tank or Stug thing.
@@niksonrex88 real warfare isnt like warthunder kiddo
They first made fun of cope cages. Now this. It aint stupid if it works.
cope cages still usable, this isn't. except for mine clearing venichles
@@dindrmindr626 Would they bother if it didn't?
@@dindrmindr626 +5 on intimidation rolls -2 on stealth rolls
@@dindrmindr626 idk, ask ukrainians or israelis
Ukrainians first made fun of "dragon teeth defense". oh I remember how it was fun for them. now they copy dragon teeth 🤷♂
Turtle tanks roaming around while Abrahams runs away scared of russian drones.
Proof that Marvins killdozer was ahead of it's time:
Eat a whole bag of dongs.
That's the new camo pack, the barn. :)
This tank has a name - "King Grill". The reason of creation is jammed turret after the serious hit. The owner is not an regular army.
You have to make a video about Self-propelled artillery 2S19 - Msta-S with a name "Kosandra". It is fully covered with wooden logs. And if you are familiar with Russian Folklore - you will assosiate it with the "Hut on a chicken legs" :D
I actually think that the turtle tank is somewhat useful as a mine-clearing tank. So basically the Russians have solved two things that have been bothering them, is that landmines and FPV drones. The only thing that will be worrying the crews will be ATGM's and artillery shells. So far, I haven't seen the Ukrainian using Javelins or any other ATGM's in action. And they only fired their artillery shells less than the Russians.
ATGMs are still heavily used. There are photos of ukrainian captured positions from russians with metal strings basically everywhere
So they have prevented topside attacks. The tank tracks are still exposed and a drone attack will make a mobility kill, and therefore a mission kill. The crew can stay aboard if they want to see what Ukrainian artillery can do against a stationary target.
@@frankduncan5685 you make it sound so easy. Check out drone footage that is drowning in noise the closer it comes to the tank. There is almost no possibility of maneuvering near a tank that is EW protected accordingly
@@frankduncan5685 ua-cam.com/video/Q9Cq81Gyznw/v-deo.htmlsi=A3DHFfYvjeTsUpvf
In this particular place the Russians has destroyed all the static heavy atgm positions in the buildings with targeted fpv drone attack over the last weeks, so that is a solved problem in that area.
You don't understand how the cumulative jet on the warhead works. The jet must be concentrated in one point. If the warhead hits the first layer of armor, as it does on this tank, that point of impact is on that first layer of armor. By the time the cumulative jet reaches the tank, it has already dispersed into an inverted cumulative funnel at 0.5 m. Which means that that reverse cumulative funnel would only dirty the tank, it wouldn't even activate the reactive armor on the tank.
Everyone laughs at this 'homemade armor', although the Ukrainian military has been using something similar since 2014.
@@TheFruitcake1983 This is actually a form of space armor.
If that was actually the case then every tank would look like this and no one would be using shaped charges anymore.
@@hedgehog3180 A cheap replacement for reactive armor in the field. So now everybody's started welding grilles on all sides. The same Israelis after last year's events installed grilles on the roofs of tanks everywhere within a few days.
the main purpose of this isn't actually to stop HEAT warheads as you say, yes it can do it, but it's main purpose for having this bulky armor covering the entire tank is that it makes it almost near impossible for drone operators to be able to hit weakspots on the tank, I.E. tracks, engine, turret roof ect. because the drone operator can't see where they're hitting on the tank and so it makes is extremely difficult to land a direct hit on a weakspot because this armor hides them, and as another layer of protection if a drone does manage to hit this and properly aim at a weakspot most of the drones used use a HE warhead and this armor absolutely makes HE useless as it won't even hit the tank to damage it, and if the drone is equipped with a HEAT warhead this armor is also really good at reducing the effectiveness of HEAT warheads as well as HE warheads, so while this armor may look stupid, there's a reason it survived like 10 drone strikes and dozens of artillery rounds because they can't aim at weakspots to disable to tank and destroy it and add to the fact it is equipped with electronic equipment that makes drones useless makes this tank almost completely impervious to drones and to some extent artillery.
The new T-90 turtle series of tank reminds me a lot of the battering ram from Age of Empires 2 😆
Siege modifier +10%
Casemate TD's making a comeback, nobody could've predicted this.
It's war,we should expect the unexpected
We all are waiting for the anti missile system becomes so advance, that large naval guns became relevant again for surface combat.
@@backpackpepelon3867 would be rail guns at that point.
Gotta give credit to the Reds , this is actually a good idea . Anything that one thinks might give him an edge is already a positive , even if it doesnt really work
Stug, the breakthrough tank, making a comeback.
NAFO when a DPR T-72 gets hit by a drone or mine:
HAHAHAHA RUZZIA VEHICLES ARE SO BAD!
NAFO when their abrams/leopard/T-62 gets hit by drones:
All tanks are not gamechangers, why are you suprised?
The cognitive dissonance of the redditor.
Literal thousands of Soviet era and modernised tanks on both sides destroyed.
Oh Russia and Ukraine are just using them wrong.
Imagine being Russian/Ukrainean and suffering in this bloody war only to find out the rest of the world is treating it like a football match. I'd bet soldiers on both sides will agree to restore the Soviet Union/Russian Empire
@@adambrande Soviet union to starve their people to death, and the russian empire to have a outdated kind of government where farmers are opressed and the only ones who are enjoying the life are the excessively rich people?
I will call that as a blyatmobile
They laughed at Vlad...and now Vlad is in that turtle tank laughing at them.
When a mommy turtle tank loves a daddy turtle tank and they get married -- the turtle tanks multiple
A new mecha species?
Russian tank final boss.
I was waiting for this video from you!
Roman Centurions would be proud.
Regarding the field of vision. There is probably no commander in the tank. They can just use it with a driver alone to clear pathways of mines and attract enemy reaction.
Russian tanks are evolving into turtles. Music starts to play an old soundtrack - TMNT* are comming !
*The Modern New Tanks !
Props to you for keeping it unbiased :)
the biggest problem is jammin... this may looks funny but is somewhat effective...
War thunder is not realistic
Russians:
there used to be a whole series of vehicles like this, they were called Tank Destroyers, and they were tanks with casemates like these turtles, and the casemates allowed for bigger guns, but it meant they gave up what made turrets useful, the turtle tank can only shoot at what is in front of it or a degree of left or right because it has given up the use of its turret.
No, tank destroyers are nothing like this thing. This is more resembling a battering ram than a tank destroyer.
@@Slav4o911 one of them reminds me of an oversized Hertzer
Meanwhile the farmer when he wakes up and realizes his shed is gone.
Especially if he built his shed out of wrecked tanks he salvaged last year
If it works well against drones it's ok. If it doesn't work, they will disappear, it's not more difficult than that. I personally think there are better methods with anti-drones, but they need more development. In the meantime, it's up to everyone to test what they make easily.
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Another commentator called Willy OAM had an interesting theory. The AI drones Ukraine is developing may get confused as the system would only be calibrated to reconise a certain shape of the Tank or BMP, the house or shed looking structure might not be recognised by the drone especially the early versions, the metal could also change its heat signature to protect against drones using thermal imaging. I reckon the same thing is happening with tyres on the wings in the airbases as the types of drones being launched into Russia usually use a recognition system to reconise the target by heat signature (this may help to prevent jammers as there is no signal being sent between operator and drone). Also the extra armour could be effective aginst shaped munitions as they detonate on impact therefore at least some of the explosive force is absorbed.
I'm not a drone expert and I may be wrong about this but this makes some sense to me.
Если честно этот танк показал себя хорошо, у него конечно не крутится башня и его будет сложно чинить, но его сложно поразить и также можно изменить любой танк, а в России, очень много танков которым больше 50 лет и их никак не используют.
I have nothing insightful to say so just imagine I said something smart
By not saying something stupid you succeeded in making smarter posts than most.
Agree
Agree
you make a good point
Considering it's an engineering vehicle used to breach mine fields and lead the charge, it's doing pretty well. The second version was packed with heavy EW systems under the armor to deal with drones, that might be something that could change the operational capacity of the RU army.
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Born: in 2024
it actually could be a decent way to protect mine clearing vehicles because they are priority targets and they usually don't fight
Any great grandfather PTSD: Those are WW1 tanks !!!
That's what I was thinking, my Austro-Hungarian Great Grandfather is certainly turning in his grave
Please make an update video about the turtle tanks because they seem to get more common and somewhat sucsessful in their tasks
These are not Tanks. These are mine trawls converted from TROPHY damaged Ukrainian tanks. There is neither ammunition nor a full crew inside. Fuel is kept to a minimum; part of the fuel tanks and the free space inside, as far as the chassis' load capacity allows, are filled with sand or brick chips. Everything for maximum survivability under fire in a minefield.
You are wrong about them being trophy tanks. A turtle tank made from a Russian T-62M was recently captured, so it is just trophy tanks being turned into turtle tanks.
@@killer3000ad On the LostArmor website there is a video with mechanics and tank crews and the process of its production. This is a Ukrainian tank captured by the Russian Slavyanka brigade, which is used to clear Ukrainian minefields.
That use of corrugated iron. Bob Semple would be proud...
I suppose Turtle Tanks / BlyatMobile's are the concrete and sandbags of the Sherman days.
It doesn't matter if it's effective if it aids crew morale, making it somewhat effective at minimum.
I wonder if a thermobaric drone to the front would peel the whole thing off, making it vulnerable.
These straight up look like World War 1 tanks from a distance.
They mocked at russians when they put the net on top of the tank.
Months later, everybody is doing it.
The tank commander has the responsibility for the safety of his vehicle ...
so he is free to do whatever it takes to keep it as safe as possible.
well they did get the turtle because it was moving at the speed of a rabbit so it seems it's working somewhat to their advantage, the germans in WW2 had a lot of their tank fitted with additional side armour which proved effective against any anti-tank but was not effective against air strikes that increase when they no longer had air superiority,
IF you looked carefully you would have noticed it had mine-clearing devices in front of tracks and it had electronic jammers on it. All it was doing was clearing a path for other equipment.
RedEffect doesn't look carefully in case he alienates his NATO fanbase.
@@a.m.armstrong8354 Which is weird , cus he can identify what tank model with only a few pixel from a not so good picture , i doubt he can't realize the vehicle is being used as de-mining vehicle and messing with drone .
@@kampfer91 I thought he could too, until I carefully listened to his meticulous presentation, bro..
0:15 "Turtle tank" no no The BlyatMobile 😄
They learned form the Philippines🇵🇭
no they didn't stfu
On 5:48 you can clearly see that there are holes on the back and possibly on the side which provide vision for commander.
The only one thats potentially even been damaged and we dont know even it was hit was in a warehouse. Sure a missile could take it out if it’s stationary. But it moves. Quick. Its deigned to shrug off lame drone attacks. Bounce right off. Probably would survive a mortar hit as well.
This propaganda channel becoming it's own parody 😂 Before they tried to convince people that Russia got technologies,now they try to convince that Russia don't have technologies and they using crap instead and this crap is better than technology 😂😂😂