Mane Tank Reveals the Logs | Xeno Reacts to FFXIV AoE Drama

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  • Опубліковано 29 лис 2024
  • PART 1: • Max Level Tank REFUSES...
    PART 2: • The Samurai Responds |...
    Tank Mane responds to the Samurai by providing logs of the dungeon. The truth finally gets revealed and Xeno is ready to conclude this AoE Drama. But then some guy on Reddit gets mad and says this drama has reduced all his respect for Xeno to 0. People are way too invested in a random tank not using AoE skills in a dungeon LMAO.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 466

  • @alexanderkeys8919
    @alexanderkeys8919 Рік тому +291

    Imagine being the tank that decided to grief and the internet gets mad at the DPS.
    Incredible.

    • @leonwoo
      @leonwoo Рік тому +66

      The SAM ended up being a better tank than the tank, taking all the heat from the community instead.

    • @Grav53
      @Grav53 Рік тому +17

      The secret shirk upgrade nobody knows about

    • @kaitanz297
      @kaitanz297 Рік тому

      Classic.

    • @vitawaterplz
      @vitawaterplz Рік тому

      what was the job for the second tank ? thought they were back up for when something like this happens

    • @purplefreedom1631
      @purplefreedom1631 11 місяців тому

      Should spam 3rd eye more, all that extra sword magic he'll be A TOP parser!

  • @clumsyturtle8544
    @clumsyturtle8544 Рік тому +377

    Meaningless drama to bring everyone together for the holidays, this really is a wholesome community guys!

    • @davidepannone6021
      @davidepannone6021 Рік тому +5

      Tis the season of salt. Grab those popcorns cuz we eating good tonight!

    • @TGZero
      @TGZero Рік тому

      But popcorn gives me gas.@@davidepannone6021

    • @throwaway5656
      @throwaway5656 Рік тому +5

      "meaningless drama" -- such an oxymoron: there's no such thing.
      still wholesome for me -- drama like these are so far in between that it could make 3 parts video whilst in WoW, it's just another Tuesday.

    • @laurentcisse4280
      @laurentcisse4280 Рік тому

      @@throwaway5656 no drama in guild wars 2 and people say than ff14 Community is good but it's bad

    • @davidepannone6021
      @davidepannone6021 Рік тому

      @@laurentcisse4280 what community lol, GW2 has 10% of the ffxiv playerbase

  • @Talcor
    @Talcor Рік тому +79

    Part 4 is going to be the samurai saying hes quitting ff14 because its too toxic and he starts to play wow instead

    • @kahome
      @kahome Рік тому +9

      Lol wow. Hes not gonna last a day there.

    • @peterphane
      @peterphane Рік тому +4

      Honestly, I hope there is a part 4 😅

    • @BasicSub
      @BasicSub Рік тому +13

      Part 5 is the redditor making a youtube saying xeno's entire community is toxic cause of 1 DM he got.

    • @dione2610
      @dione2610 Рік тому +1

      I’ve been playing wow for a month now, no one has even spoken to me and I have not encountered toxicity either. Kinda sad, was hopping for some drama to spice my life a little 😂 guess it’s back to 14

    • @kohlicoide2258
      @kohlicoide2258 Рік тому

      ​@@dione2610tbh WoW is also chill in the more casual way.. but there are some spots like LFR.. no joke LFR was for me often more stressfull then Mythic sometimes

  • @sinniiarmzendlegz7100
    @sinniiarmzendlegz7100 Рік тому +285

    my favorite thing about this whole mess is that the tank is just nowhere to be found. Man is just out here playing the game, minding his own business, letting his DPS die lmao

    • @wmolockjr
      @wmolockjr Рік тому +31

      That tank is just living the Sigma life.
      The tank: “I caused drama between the dps…. Man…. F’em!” LMAO

    • @xxfloppypillowxx
      @xxfloppypillowxx Рік тому +4

      That's because FFXIV is such a casual game, there are a ton of people who just play for a handful of hours each week and that's it. Too many nerds out there thinking that everyone is playing ffxiv whenever they're awake and not at work and when they are not on ffxiv they are thinking about the game. It takes a long time to get into content that actually requires you to play even remotely optimally to beat it. If you're a dps pulling additional mobs you're a bad player plain and simple, does it make it HARD to tank? Absolutely not but it does make it harder and it's bad etiquette because instead of the mobs running directly to the tank so they can aoe it they need to chase down the mobs to hopefully be able to aoe them all in 1 hit and hope that they haven't spread out. Again, not hard but certainly harder than it needs to be and I'd absolutely let someone die who keeps doing this. If you want to determine pull speed play a tank or queue with a tank. If I were the healer I would tell the dps that if he doesn't stop pulling I am going to let him die and leave him dead. If you're not going to play your role I am not going to play mine either.

    • @petsy9979
      @petsy9979 Рік тому +22

      ​​​@@xxfloppypillowxxyou did watch the video right? you can literally see the smn die when they didnt pull ahead or anything. this tank just straight up didnt aoe in a dungeon trash pack. whats your excuse for that? you dont exactly need to be good at the game or "play optimally" to do that. you can have a job, be married, have kids and play 2 hours a week and still understand that tanks are meant to tank mobs by AOEing them.
      also just because you play tank doesn't make you the main characrer, be respectful of the other players time or go queue with npcs

    • @knightsolaire5351
      @knightsolaire5351 Рік тому

      @@petsy9979dude stop shitting on the tank you’re supposed to be shitting on the samurai defending him for no good reason.

    • @zephyas1699
      @zephyas1699 Рік тому +3

      he probably has no clue this is even going on, lmao

  • @Emuney12
    @Emuney12 Рік тому +95

    It's so funny watching a random viewer, with little to no engagement within a streamer's community, announce their dissociation with said community over the dumbest shit while riding on their high horse. Idk how Xeno can recover from this loss

    • @BM03
      @BM03 Рік тому +8

      I can't believe Xeno is fucking dead.

    • @liteyearsx
      @liteyearsx Рік тому

      The only thing I got out of that section of the video is that guy should probably seek therapy.

  • @RandomGaming114
    @RandomGaming114 Рік тому +132

    I can’t believe this dungeon drama made it this far

    • @ivybennett2274
      @ivybennett2274 Рік тому +14

      The community is starving in these trying times

    • @karlongkar
      @karlongkar Рік тому +1

      its x.55 patch , the thirst for content is real

    • @Magnarmis
      @Magnarmis Рік тому +1

      Nah it just x.5. x.55 comes in January.

    • @vitawaterplz
      @vitawaterplz Рік тому

      y no 1 talking about 2nd tank tho

    • @Giggle971
      @Giggle971 Рік тому

      ​@@ivybennett22745:51 5:52 5:52

  • @boonetolbert9539
    @boonetolbert9539 Рік тому +112

    Today I learned of fflogs replay.
    Thank you this gift. Now I can show my friends how ass I am in real time 😂

    • @nenemeia90
      @nenemeia90 Рік тому +9

      gotta love how this drama teaches a lot of people including me that fflogs replay is a thing LOL

    • @CineGoodog
      @CineGoodog Рік тому +5

      fflog have A LOT more features than just showing damage. Only if people knew....

    • @Nutrafin-3D
      @Nutrafin-3D Рік тому

      Because it's so hush hush

  • @vicariousxiv2436
    @vicariousxiv2436 Рік тому +24

    "The streamer whose opinions I respect has shared his opinion and I no longer respect him, hurr durr."
    What a strange reddit post, dude forcefully inserts himself just to say he's fucking off cause he's upset over something no one else took seriously lol

  • @ZetLeonhart
    @ZetLeonhart Рік тому +62

    the funny thing is the tank (according to fflogs) has been around since ShB and he's consistently parsing fat 0's, somehow not using his 123 and from what I saw the one log from Thaleia he was kicked and replaced before the last boss. I admire his tenacity, I just know he's got a ton of people pissed over those couple years but he's still there. Still forging ahead. A hero.

    • @HowlingDoom
      @HowlingDoom Рік тому +1

      Mans just living his best life, simply enjoying the game and the vibes.

    • @2Shiba
      @2Shiba Рік тому +14

      Which means... he's ACTUALLY trying his best?
      I don't know if I should be awed or terrified by that information. I'm honestly perplexed.

    • @malcovich_games
      @malcovich_games Рік тому +6

      I bet a lot of people told him to start AOE-ing. At this point I can suspect griefing already HAHAHA.

    • @TheTriple2000
      @TheTriple2000 Рік тому +2

      ​@NekoArcEnjoyerI really want to know how his Scion members feels about him bro 💀

    • @Sniperbear13
      @Sniperbear13 Рік тому

      ah i see the problem; they built Tenacity as a tank.

  • @Inhaledcorn
    @Inhaledcorn Рік тому +97

    "You go my speed, or you kick me "
    Amen, brother. I'll drink to that.

    • @Asako_Gaming
      @Asako_Gaming Рік тому +7

      The only way to play.

    • @Grimnoire
      @Grimnoire Рік тому

      It's just funny because tanking is the most braindead role.
      Like... This game is Farmville and people are...
      [ ( ( *Rant Start* ) ) ]
      I'm sorry but how fucking brain rotted and moronic do you have to be to not play these jobs correctly, not only are they all the exact same just with different names but they aren't even complicated to begin with.
      Every button has very simple, straightforward, text that then proceed to function exactly as described. The most complicated part about the combat Is finding ways to create pseudo nuance by using these abilities in ways they are not meant to be used.
      I'm not the smartest person in the world, this is my first MMO.
      I understand not getting mechanics or not playing optimally with rotations and perfectly aligned cooldowns.
      But I will never understand or accept you not being capable of fucking attacking and healing, or holding agro, or using rampart.
      You are either actively trying to be bad, or you have a mental disability and shouldn't be allowed to play games. That's all there is to it.
      [ ( ( *Rant Complete* ) ) ]

    • @DickDynamite
      @DickDynamite Рік тому

      Or let you die right up til the final boss and THEN kick you last minute? :D

    • @vrslayercat
      @vrslayercat Рік тому

      Hard agree

    • @jackstarblaze768
      @jackstarblaze768 11 місяців тому +3

      One of many reasons why getting kicked NEEDS to start triggering the 30 minute penalty.

  • @CasualReaper
    @CasualReaper Рік тому +26

    This reminds me of a time I did Labyrinth of the ancients roulette. Had a healer in my alliance pull the first two bosses wayy early before everyone got there. I was a bit too close to the third boss and it accidentally pulled on me. Healer goes “Can you not early pull the boss we have sprouts here” She early pulls the last boss and tries to use rescue on me during ancient flare to get us both killed but I had arms length on so she killed herself. The things people do to go out of their way intentionally to be a cuck is real

    • @GhostAeonWolf
      @GhostAeonWolf Рік тому +5

      i once tanked WoD (not just once, but this happened once), i overaggroed everyother tank as paladin, at 50. We had two healers in group, they decided that i am not worthy to be healed by them, not even once. I died, twice. Then i turned off my tank stance and said that if i am not getting healed, i am not tanking. Those two healers, who played together in group (they kept ressurecting each other with longcast ress), then called me toxic and i have been told they tried to votekick me. At the end of the duty, i got 4 comms (i was in group with a friend-dps, who told me about the votekick).

    • @shelflord1686
      @shelflord1686 3 місяці тому +1

      Reminds me of a LoTA run where my tank was shitting on our party for not playing 100 optimally (they were killing adds instead of focussing boss), and I told him to relax, then in the next fight he was shirking me and chasing me with the enemy autos. Actual psycho shit

  • @Null_Experis
    @Null_Experis Рік тому +38

    If you cannot demonstrate the skills taught to you by The Smith before they let you do Sastasha, your roulette privileges should be revoked until you re-complete it.

    • @KorporateKotoo
      @KorporateKotoo Рік тому +3

      They don't make you do that tutorial, at least I didn't have too.

    • @sonicboy5
      @sonicboy5 9 місяців тому +1

      they dont make you do that tutorial anymore strangely enough

  • @wontonamobae5773
    @wontonamobae5773 Рік тому +13

    You can also see in the log replay that the tank used some kind of dash and zoomed ahead of the group, the tank seems to be the one who pulled the mobs, and then didn't aoe

  • @LegoUzi
    @LegoUzi Рік тому +84

    The saga that never ends

  • @verpasste633
    @verpasste633 Рік тому +36

    Im bugged that the sam was complaining about boss uptime when the smn was running from it. Hitboxes are huge and iaijutsu has a long af range. If you lose uptime to a jogging summoner that's a skill issue. Idk if it was the antlion boss or not but all them bosses got giant hitboxes bro like haha just move ?????

    • @kohlicoide2258
      @kohlicoide2258 Рік тому +9

      Thats the most funny thing.. Meele Uptime is now so piss easy in FF14 in the most case its just "Take a step back for the snapshot and then go meele range again." or like me when i play Tank in casual "Give a fuck about the aoe and dont dodge at all." (it does extrem low damage btw)

    • @shelflord1686
      @shelflord1686 3 місяці тому

      Melee dps bitch and moan constantly about uptime when its probably one of the easiest things to maintain in this game lol

  • @moderndaymozart9386
    @moderndaymozart9386 Рік тому +14

    I had once a tank refused to tank because i as a healer got acro. He didnt realize that i gain enmity automatically through heals and started crying because he didnt get the mops attention🤦🏽

  • @bubblegumkitty9331
    @bubblegumkitty9331 Рік тому +96

    Imagine losing all respect for your streamer because he expressed his opinion. Either way, good video. This has been quite an enjoyable saga.

    • @magicman25103
      @magicman25103 Рік тому +28

      10 bucks says it's yet another person who's trying to have a controversial take for their 2 Minutes of Fame

    • @cyanmage1
      @cyanmage1 Рік тому

      @Intheendyourlifeisnothing well you already made the choice to play a game instead of doing anything else with your life so why does it matter where you are in the game you are still playing it

    • @ruily276
      @ruily276 Рік тому +1

      @@cyanmage1 In that case the next time I queue up as a dps to an expert dungeon I'll just press my 1 2 3. I'm sure nobody would mind at all.

    • @Rogsnutle
      @Rogsnutle Рік тому

      @@ruily276 Pretty sure that's how 80% of the DPs play anyway, so you'll fit right in! Looking at you, BLMs that only cast Fire at 90.

    • @SaltNip
      @SaltNip Рік тому

      @cyanmage1 I make a choice to play a game instead of doing anything else, but that doesn't mean I don't value the time that I spend playing that game. I want to actually enjoy myself. That's the point of the video game hobby. The last thing I want is to get into a dungeon with a lobotomy patient and one or two spineless enablers, making what could've been a fun, smooth dungeon run into a frustrating slog because they can't even do the bare minimum and expect everyone else to carry their dead weight in a team game.
      That's like saying: "Well you already made the choice to eat a cheeseburger instead of anything else, so what does it matter if somebody spit in your cheeseburger, it's still a cheeseburger"
      I actually struggle to put into words how impressively stupid this take is, you should be ashamed that this was a thought that even went through your head. I truly hope that you're just pretending to be this dense. If you're being serious, I genuinely pity you.

  • @fallenlulu1
    @fallenlulu1 Рік тому +27

    I have ACT set to auto open when I play. Even in dungeons it's good to see where your rotation is at

    • @davidepannone6021
      @davidepannone6021 Рік тому +1

      I have too, just because you need to run act before running the game unless you activate decaulion (or whatever is spelled) and you cannot open act whenever you want while in game (you'd have to log out and log back in for it to work).
      I could give two fucks about DPS in normal duties lol

    • @Kenmei_N
      @Kenmei_N Рік тому +1

      How do you do this? Every time I want to use ACT, like when playing AST on an extreme or another duty where it somewhat matters, I have to log out, open act and log in and sometimes I just can't be bothered. And I always forget to do it when I start to play.

    • @fallenlulu1
      @fallenlulu1 Рік тому +2

      @@Kenmei_N do you use ffxiv launcher? There is an option to launch other programs when you open the game

    • @Kenmei_N
      @Kenmei_N Рік тому +3

      @@fallenlulu1 It worked. I didn't know about that option, cool. Many thanks!

    • @fallenlulu1
      @fallenlulu1 Рік тому

      @@Kenmei_N awesome!

  • @iKathulu
    @iKathulu Рік тому +10

    Last drama was about people being bored, now people can’t be bothered to press two buttons. We really need some more mid-core content instead of laughing at casuals complaining about stuff. Xeno’s vids really helped me get super comfortable tanking and just getting better at the game overall at a higher level. If people just try to learn or even try to press all the buttons they may enjoy the game more. :3

  • @sharkntux7402
    @sharkntux7402 Рік тому +82

    I am once again asking for the healer's testimony, i find it hilarious that nobody has mentioned the healer at all 😂

    • @AnneAleph
      @AnneAleph Рік тому +65

      The healer is doing the sane thing and staying the fuck away from the mess, dude laid down low and let the storm pass overhead, they're unbothered, moisturized, in their lane, thriving

    • @TGZero
      @TGZero Рік тому +6

      Moisturized.....I like that.@@AnneAleph

    • @TajinQ
      @TajinQ Рік тому +13

      Youw honow! The pwosecution have just weceived cwiticaw infowmation that couwd tuwn dis twiaw awound. Me wouwd wike to caww fowth da heawew pwesent at da time of da cwime as a witness to testify in dis couwt, and dat's it UwU!

    • @dione2610
      @dione2610 Рік тому +8

      This is just a normal day in a healers life 😂

    • @linuxguypc2123
      @linuxguypc2123 Рік тому +5

      I normally play healer in dungeons. I'm surprised the healer didn't just heal spam the SMN so there's no problem with a noob tank. This happened before and the should be able to survive in expert if decently geared healer. Once had to use a super ether on an undeargeared tank tho xD

  • @Nazuiko
    @Nazuiko Рік тому +19

    Found the tank on Lodestone, theyre an omnicrafter with most jobs at 90, others unplayed (Gunbreaker not unlocked, other tanks all 90)

    • @Grimnoire
      @Grimnoire Рік тому +13

      They weren't new

    • @apathyreaper5323
      @apathyreaper5323 Рік тому

      How the fuck doesn't the dumbass no how to AOE tank then I'M SO CONFUSED.

    • @alaineninmah7040
      @alaineninmah7040 Рік тому +4

      @@Grimnoire Definitely not new, something was probalby said or done in the Party chat that pissed the tank off. Tank retaliated, and dps got salty. A standard day in the US Servers.

    • @FinnFann
      @FinnFann Рік тому +3

      Man you don't mess with omnicrafters. Unlike mentors they actually bite back while not even acknowledging you. They're scary.

    • @kellevichy
      @kellevichy Рік тому +4

      @@alaineninmah7040 Or the Tank is just a troll. Nothing was going on in party chat until someone asked them to AOE. But agreed; reasons why I don't play on NA; it's a cesspool.

  • @phusion6071
    @phusion6071 Рік тому +50

    People are talking about how Mane, Xeno, or the samurai feels
    But what about how the healer feels?

    • @Soress9
      @Soress9 Рік тому +27

      For the healer it was probably just another Tuesday.

    • @HalberdierHyperion
      @HalberdierHyperion Рік тому +34

      By level 90, healers no longer retain the capacity to "feel." That has long since died.

    • @rickkiller2000
      @rickkiller2000 Рік тому +2

      like every other healer, dead inside

    • @nodot17
      @nodot17 Рік тому +3

      The healer: Why are we still here? Just to suffer? Every night I press my glare, and my holy.
      Or that 1 meme of that guy singing and dancing while playing cause its a dungeon

  • @Sadtv12
    @Sadtv12 Рік тому +11

    15 minute dungeon = 15 days of drama... thats crazy

  • @QueenKhoob
    @QueenKhoob Рік тому +7

    Will forever remember the history of the community member who left almost immediately after joining. Their legacy will live on.

  • @jacktaru2
    @jacktaru2 Рік тому +6

    UA-cam frog- I thought this would drop 2 days after part 2. I’m glad it wasn’t though, thanks Leo 😊

  • @Kazgrel
    @Kazgrel Рік тому +14

    Your WAR guide way back at the start of HW is what showed to me that the approach to tanking in XIV is a fair bit different than what wee bit of tanking I had done way back in WoW. Prior to that I had figured stacking defensive stats as much as possible was good when in fact it wasn't.
    Also this whole episode of cringe did have one silver lining: Folks learning about FFLog's replay feature 😃

  • @6-1-1
    @6-1-1 Рік тому +20

    To be devil's advocate, he never mentioned xenos but Sexnos 😂

  • @PareSM
    @PareSM Рік тому +15

    Bro how has this shit gone on this long

    • @aiellamori
      @aiellamori Рік тому +7

      We need a part 4 asap

    • @magicman25103
      @magicman25103 Рік тому +10

      It's very simple, the Samurai decided that instead of fading Into anonymity he would open his mouth and put himself directly in the spotlight which caused it to gain a lot of traction

  • @Akinon93
    @Akinon93 Рік тому +38

    I'll say this, for the guy who's all "well we don't know if they're telling the truth"
    we do know this, this one specific thing that both the samurai and summoner have agreed on
    "stop moving the boss"
    *summoner responds*
    tank didn't have aggro on the boss for whatever reason, and the samurai was pissed because the summoner wasn't face tanking the boss so he could get his rotation off. so, yeah, because of this we're all inclined to believe that the tank was having issues holding aggro in the rest of the dungeon as well.
    and although it's an AH move for the SMN to put out the names of the players involved, lets also not forget that he had blocked out the other names originally, and it was the SAM that decided to start outing people.

    • @pm_me_ur_gluons
      @pm_me_ur_gluons Рік тому +12

      Why is it an ah move though? DF is essentially public space. If you don't want your name attached to stupid shit don't do stupid shit in public.

    • @scottishboy112
      @scottishboy112 Рік тому +7

      Well, the SAM didn’t out the Healer or Tank, that was Mane. And to be fair to Mane, on the replay, if he covered the tank’s name the HP bar would be VERY hard to notice. Healer’s could’ve been covered.
      But the SAM outed himself, probably for his 5 minutes of fame and to promptly get roasted by about 99% of the vocal part of the community (the ones on social media).

  • @HippeusOmega
    @HippeusOmega Рік тому +5

    When I'm a tank, I pull W2W cause that's the speed I play as unless the healer has expressed they are having trouble to me then i will scale back the pulls a bit. There is a cpl duties I won't do W2W in. Stone vigil comes to mind as one.

  • @petree
    @petree Рік тому +14

    His tone in the video makes him sound more of a jerk than anyone else lol

    • @Gekkoukitsune9
      @Gekkoukitsune9 Рік тому +7

      Correction his tone is giving very much I'm a Lil bitch 😂

    • @davidepannone6021
      @davidepannone6021 Рік тому +2

      If kermit the frog and Peter Griffin had a child

  • @aleknsdrea
    @aleknsdrea Рік тому +15

    I'm not gonna lie, when doing lvl 90 or expert roulette I expect wall to wall pulls, cause the tank and healer should be competent at that point in game, I wouldn't expect it in lvling, msq, and sometimes in 60-80 dungeons, cause you get sprouts during those so I can understand, but at lvl 90? come on man. That's why I like expert and level 90, they're nice and clean no fuck ups, easy to just do my job and say gg and leave.

    • @BboyVReck
      @BboyVReck Рік тому +1

      Same I expect that because it's pretty common to do wall to wall pull.

    • @HookahOtaku
      @HookahOtaku Рік тому +2

      If you dont like how the tanks play, tank it yourself :)

    • @Aevalii
      @Aevalii Рік тому

      @@HookahOtaku Stop griefing in your dungeons man no one likes you.

    • @horalidus1536
      @horalidus1536 Рік тому +10

      @@HookahOtaku 'tank it yourself' and then you realize how easy W2W pulls are and wonder why some tanks arent doing it

    • @kellevichy
      @kellevichy Рік тому

      @@HookahOtaku 10 bucks this is a shit tank.

  • @josiedavis3792
    @josiedavis3792 Рік тому +7

    I don't understand the criticism that there could have been something going on with the tank via like disability or some other means. He was clearly using single target abilities, if he can press one button there's honestly no reason he couldn't just press the button that was tied to Unleash. Like maybe there was a gun to his head or something, but I don't think there's any disability out there that prevents you from pressing one specific button over all the other buttons that you can press.
    And I mean sure there are excuses as to why he might not have been able to do it, maybe it wasn't on his skill rotation at all who knows. The point is, he was able to walk around the dungeon and use other skills which means he had some control over his character, there's no legitimate reason for him to have a physical limitation preventing him from using one specific skill.

    • @Corvus7159
      @Corvus7159 Рік тому +1

      People will do all they can to white-knight for randoms in this game. I've legit had a tank with a disability to the point where they had to communicate via macros explaining their situation, and STILL they tanked Dzemael like a champ. Actually best Dzemael run I had at that point.

    • @hobbitluck
      @hobbitluck Рік тому

      It is thinking critically. Until you have hard evidence, this whole situation is he said/she said. The FFLogs helps clarify, but to me, there is still unknowns. The actual tank? troll or newb? Did he let Mane-tank die intentional because of spite or because of bad? SAM added fuel to this situation way more than needed. The guy's reddit post to me was really spot on UNTIL he added that asinine edit at the end. SMN seems sus because he keeps added fuel after the court of puplic opinion was clearly on his side..
      Ultimately, we are all hyper-analyzing a situation that we would had never seen had it not been blown out of proportions, much like Xenosys says at the end.

  • @lakie92
    @lakie92 Рік тому +8

    "Stop running around, stand still and die so i can hit my buttons" 🫠

  • @c7plus0
    @c7plus0 Рік тому +6

    One time I tried to help a tank get used to invulning on dungeon pulls. Sadly we miscommunicated and they popped hallowed on the run to the mobs.

    • @adambaker4590
      @adambaker4590 Рік тому +3

      Their heart was in the right place. Their mind? Not so much. But they had heart!

    • @ThatRagamuffin
      @ThatRagamuffin Рік тому +1

      they're confused but they got the spirit

  • @Potch06
    @Potch06 Рік тому +4

    Xeno's theory at 15:02 on how the tank could have boosted and played like this just to try and trigger all this drama is so funny to me, I'm making it my headcanon

  • @ctgooni
    @ctgooni Рік тому +8

    5:03 Nah nah nah! I disagree! Growing up online turns you from boy to MAN!! I played DoTA since I was in middle school and I can swear to you, I will never pass up the chance to turn a minor inconvinience into a life changing altercation!!🔥🔥

    • @Crowens
      @Crowens Рік тому +1

      Yeah I didn't get thicker skin until I started being terminally online and having people give me shit for anything be it either forum takes or game performance or people exposing you to shock content. The other psychos online will make sure you get dragged down with them ha.

  • @kirimina9216
    @kirimina9216 Рік тому +2

    Kinda wish Xenosys had scrolled down a bit more in Mane's post. Under one of the comments complaining about showing the tank and healer's names in the log post, someone explains that the tank is a known griefer. He's thrown tantrums before when asked to AoE, hold aggro, etc and is notorious for pulling stunts like this. Has multiple tank classes as well, so being a 'new' tank is no excuse at all in this scenario. SAM probably didn't know, Mane probably didn't know, but now anyone who has read the thread knows.

  • @XenoriethNova
    @XenoriethNova Рік тому +4

    LOL you really did make this into a 3 part series. You mad lad! 🤣

  • @MosImbaGaming
    @MosImbaGaming Рік тому +1

    I fried some catfish today and served it with collard greens and mac and cheese. It was delicious.

  • @phillipg3036
    @phillipg3036 Рік тому +7

    You're milking this and i'm all for it 🤣

  • @HarumiYu
    @HarumiYu Рік тому +7

    This bait was powerful, and holy crap, I have this tank in my Blacklist. xffing
    Also, imagine if with all of this, the tank just made other person play for them, or was botting. xdd

  • @Vuln_Snacks
    @Vuln_Snacks Рік тому +5

    I'm not trying to be a parse monkey here, but the only parse the tank has is a 1 in a normal raid so....yeah, imo it's not that farfetched to think the tank has some pretty major holes in his gameplay. Smn was justified, sam roading them coattails, case closed?
    As always though, great series, love the vids Xeno, keep up the great content

  • @alaineninmah7040
    @alaineninmah7040 Рік тому +2

    As a main tank i don't give a damn if dps or healers pull. The only thing I ask is bring them too me when you get to the end instead of just waiting for everyone to get there XD. Reddit post require names to be redacted which is fine. Not redacting names can and probably will get people banned pending the situation and how it is reported. If you watch the Log, the healer was in on it with the tank too most likely. (Speculation). A healer can easily heal a dps in a single pull, some healers can heal dps in a wall to wall pull. There must have been beef in the dungeon that isn't being told. Sounds like a standard day in FFXIV.

  • @mauythai4585
    @mauythai4585 Рік тому +34

    Little bit if a PSA here.
    YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A SAVAGE/ULTIMATE RAIDER TO CALL A TANK OUT FOR NOT AOEING TRASH MOBS IN A DUNGEON!!!
    Thank you.

    • @undercoverspy123
      @undercoverspy123 Рік тому

      regardless I dont give a flying fuck about what you call people out for
      its a god damn normal dungeon that is over in 20 mins

    • @HookahOtaku
      @HookahOtaku Рік тому +1

      you also get banned for telling people how to play unsolicited.

    • @pm_me_ur_gluons
      @pm_me_ur_gluons Рік тому +4

      ​@@HookahOtakuunlike telling people to play better, griefing is a bannable offense

    • @horalidus1536
      @horalidus1536 Рік тому +2

      @@HookahOtaku so what your saying is that this game shouldnt have guides whatsoever because they tell you how to play the game properly

    • @ruily276
      @ruily276 Рік тому +2

      @@HookahOtaku So that's why hall of the novice isn't mandatory yet. It all makes sense.

  • @Sunari
    @Sunari Рік тому

    The pulsing keyboard was neat, and also amused at the black fedora with the black background just removing a part of Xenos' head lol

  • @xbree_
    @xbree_ Рік тому +2

    Aye we UA-camr watchers didn’t have to wait 2 days lol thanks Xeno oh and your DSR guides where great. I was super sad you didn’t do it for top.

  • @rhael42
    @rhael42 Рік тому +2

    That reddit post really is a case of "tell me you don't actually play the game without telling me you don't play the game"
    edit: yep, OP only barely started playing

  • @UltimortalMoth
    @UltimortalMoth Рік тому +4

    Beyond pointing and laughing, some part of me worries this hyperfixation so many players have on maintaining an overcorrective anti-elitist mindset to the point of becoming toxic themselves presents a growing potential threat to the long-term health of the game.

    • @hobbitluck
      @hobbitluck Рік тому

      To me, that is where there is a lot of nuance and potential discussion of this situation. At what point in this game is it okay to not be a newb? What are the best ways to handle it. This situation shows how not to handle the situation. I do not agree with being hostile, making fun of people, or dragging names through the mud. No need from the SAM to make assumptions about the SMN and blowing it up.
      The philosophy of when you should call out bad/trolling and how to approach it without coming off toxic or actually being toxic. It is nuance, and it shows people care enough about how to not be toxic.

    • @hundset
      @hundset Рік тому +1

      This is my main concern from all this... I would personally just have left, wouldn't have made a big difference as dps are a dime a dozen but if they refuse to do AOE it doesn't matter if I pull ahead of them (which I personally would feel rude if I did anyhow). I hold the tank as the one most in the wrong but no one (excepting the healer) is coming out of this looking clean atm.

  • @Saterienne
    @Saterienne Рік тому +4

    just finished the other video thank you strummer

  • @luckyowl451
    @luckyowl451 Рік тому +1

    I can't wait for the next part when the healers mom makes a post on twitter about it

  • @cameronsmith3988
    @cameronsmith3988 Рік тому +1

    My favorite gamer moment was when I was tanking Prae as a WAR. I told the healer not to worry about healing me on the big outside pull and that I was planning to holmgang. I proceeded to mash the fuck out of shake it off, get mad that it wasn't doing anything, and die. Because I forgot holmgang was the same button on a different hotbar.

  • @mareofstature
    @mareofstature Рік тому +2

    It reminds me of when a healer asked me if they were exoected to be able to manage big pulls. My answer was yes, by the end of Heavensward you should be able to handle big pulls. Tanks have plenty of mitigation and the healers have more than enough healing spells. The trick is simple timing and spacing your mits and heals appropriately. If you used a skip or playing a class you dont know i have no sympathy for you. Unless you say something im pulling big right out the gate. Im hitting the sprint and im gone.
    First mob set tomahawk or shield lob or whatever your tanks ranged attack is get in the center aoe, apply mit if you drop below half and contune to the next mob. If you miss one or a greedy dps single targets dont worry and keep going, just be sure to pick it up at the wall.

  • @zonzo7
    @zonzo7 Рік тому +2

    Reminds me of a dead ends run I had last month. Warrior just got back into the game a week ago and they were doing single pulls. Fine. But the issue was the warrior was just using their mit all over the place and was getting popped by single packs. I was sage so I was using EVERYTHING to keep this war alive. I spaced out all my damage reduction used zoe shield. Haima panhaima everything on the length of 2 single pulls. At the end I asked him why didnt he use vengeance or shake it off. Warriors will get mad at this. They said vengeance and shake it off were iseless.😂 I just blinked and chuckled to myself. It was one hell of a run that took 50 min.

    • @scottishboy112
      @scottishboy112 Рік тому +1

      Vengeance? Useless? My man, that’s probably one of the first ones I pop! More damage and mitigation on top? Yes please!

    • @2Shiba
      @2Shiba Рік тому +1

      Vengeance IS useless. Why would you even use that in dungeon when you have Bloodwhetting in your disposal?
      /s
      Nah actually, I'm half serious. Bloodwhetting is unironically just that good

    • @zonzo7
      @zonzo7 Рік тому +1

      @2Shiba Bloodwheting is indeed just that good lol. But my war tank that day usually used it at 3/4 hp lol kinda wasting its power.
      And I usually use vengeance when bloodwhetimg is down.

    • @2Shiba
      @2Shiba Рік тому +1

      @@zonzo7 True true, my way to go in dungeon is something like BW -> 30% + Reprisal + Equilibrium -> BW -> 20% + AL -> BW as well

  • @deatherage9458
    @deatherage9458 Рік тому +2

    Xenos grateful for the drama, literally free money

  • @Cherryblossoms110
    @Cherryblossoms110 10 місяців тому

    3:46 As someone who always plays supports in Duty Finder because I refuse to wait DPS queue times, I would like to thank you for your service in being the tank's additional HP bar

  • @neenerneener8933
    @neenerneener8933 Рік тому +1

    it's times like this i wonder what would happen if ff had proximity VC 🐸

  • @coloxrme
    @coloxrme Рік тому +2

    I remember a time when Yoshi-P told people to get good at the game. I wish people did.

  • @KnivesOfTheRound
    @KnivesOfTheRound Рік тому +1

    I had to replay the hand cam of the tank rotation because it was so fast.

  • @firefox30570
    @firefox30570 10 місяців тому

    The only time i think there was a dps that ripped agro was in eureka, with the tank going defensive magia and logos actions with no gear, while the dps going offensive glasscannon with double edge and elemental gear. Outside stuff like that its frankly impossible.

  • @Arbszy
    @Arbszy Рік тому +3

    I just finished the 2nd part and was like where is the video and than Xeems heard my request and delivered. Thank you Strummer. o7

  • @FessyDKnight
    @FessyDKnight Рік тому +1

    I legitimately did not think this could get any stupider until that Reddit post. Like... huh?

  • @2Shiba
    @2Shiba Рік тому +1

    I refused to believe expectation towards a human being can get this low but here we are

    • @omegacloud222
      @omegacloud222 Рік тому +1

      Tbh i find it hard to believe some of the people playing FFXIV are even human. When i see people in endgame content not even managing basic job mechanics where the bar is so incredibly low its literally just sitting on the ground, it just makes me sad. If people did this shit in endgame on FFXI they would have been the laughing stock of the server.

    • @2Shiba
      @2Shiba Рік тому +1

      @@omegacloud222 Years worth of 'lowering the hurdle' from the devs are apparently paying off

  • @deividy5329
    @deividy5329 Рік тому +2

    just go to fflogs of the tank of the dungeon throw the normal p10 clear in xiv analysis and ur gonna see for yourself how bad that tank was.

  • @enpi-me
    @enpi-me 11 місяців тому

    Always love those periods, at the end of an expansion, or during a content drought...

  • @migz9205
    @migz9205 Рік тому +3

    I respect xeno’s opinion that as a streamer, he believes that outing someone’s name isnt a big deal because he’s a streamer and opts to put most of his life out there for public scrutiny, but you gotta remember that you OPTED IN to that life. You cant apply the same standards you have by opting in to someone who hasnt opted in. Tbf tho, all this is kinda pointless to say because i too think its fine to say the person’s in-game name online. Ppl gotta get over it, just blacklist him and move on 🤣 sometimes leaving a dungeon and taking the 30min penalty will do loads more for your mental health than staying in it and complaining afterwards lol. (Side note: sam player is cringe and couldve said absolutely nothing and this wouldve been fine. Kudos to the healer for not being brought into this mess 🤣🤣

  • @ElPincheDruk
    @ElPincheDruk Рік тому

    3:51 Amen, brother, the feared hold-W-and hit-anything-in-range strat is the bane of inexperienced players

  • @maostreams1949
    @maostreams1949 Рік тому +6

    can we get a part 4, c'mon the tank needs make a video, a twit longer, and a reddit post.

  • @Crow-wv6if
    @Crow-wv6if Рік тому

    thats so cool, i never knew about the replay function. it would have helped alot when i was trying to prog p8s and no one would say anything on wipes

  • @crash1108
    @crash1108 Рік тому +2

    Love the reddit guy who said he has never really seen any part of the community, then overreacts to a situation he wasnt even in then said hes disconnecting from the community...
    alr bro slay ig

  • @sailor_anna9924
    @sailor_anna9924 Рік тому +1

    I imagine the tank is at home laughing at all of this.
    We really are in a drought 😂

  • @InvictusRed1911
    @InvictusRed1911 Рік тому +3

    First 15 seconds of the video and I'm reading chat like "why he say "fuck me?"

  • @tfwnamewastaken
    @tfwnamewastaken Рік тому +2

    The craziest part of all of this is no one ever took the time to look up the tank to see they're in a spanish FC and probably don't even speak english.
    (edit: so literally none of this matters at all, not that it ever did)

  • @mendora5547
    @mendora5547 Рік тому +2

    When will we get the Netflix adaptation?

  • @rizer1801
    @rizer1801 Рік тому +1

    I bet the tank was simply some kid playing on parents account that was left unattended. It’s the only serious explanation I can think of unless they were just trolling.

  • @hobbitluck
    @hobbitluck Рік тому +1

    I do not really like making fun on the guys in the Reddit post (before the edit). He was asking people to think critically, which seemed pretty reasonable. He felt alarmed on the bandwagon on the SMNs side of the event; something I feel is true. And everyone is like “no one asked for your opinion”. Like what? That’s not an opinion he literally spoke facts and crucified him for it.
    His edit is asinine for sure though.

  • @SuperFUNNYKILLER
    @SuperFUNNYKILLER Рік тому

    FINALLY, I HAVE BEEN WAITING YEARS FOR THIS

  • @clumsyturtle8544
    @clumsyturtle8544 Рік тому +1

    The healer of the group is the real winner here, guys a ghost and just got on with their day.

  • @SuperRamos619
    @SuperRamos619 Рік тому +1

    healer POV: probably watching netflix, and actually has no idea whats going on.

  • @archdetective
    @archdetective Рік тому +1

    Good lord. Imagine all the drama that will come out after the final patch before expansion because players are that bored.

  • @OootearooO
    @OootearooO Рік тому

    when I saw xeno post on twt i was confused, but now that i've seen this video it all makes sense. lol

  • @wolf34501
    @wolf34501 Рік тому

    as a healer if someone is single pulling , i just go in front of the parrty y agro some and bring it to the tank , if he/she dosnt i just tank them

  • @PedroIgori
    @PedroIgori 4 місяці тому

    I've played on leveling roulette and high level dungeons with the same hroth drk tank a few times, the dude doing lvl 54 and 80 dungeons not doing aoe combo the same way, and switching between each target for each hit of the combo, it was atrocious constantly getting hit by the adds if there were more than 2 in a pack and surprise i was also a summoner

  • @CardinalSpirit
    @CardinalSpirit Рік тому

    a dps getting all the irl aggro instead of the tank is the most fitting possible way for this situation to have panned out

  • @tyty8484
    @tyty8484 Рік тому

    So Single Target Tanking is the new Troll Meta?
    Also u/kanyren is the new Pyro?

  • @BboyVReck
    @BboyVReck Рік тому

    Thought this kind of incident are common. Im amaze we're still talking about it lol

  • @peendos2575
    @peendos2575 Рік тому +3

    DRAMA FROGS ARE EATING GOOD

  • @Fndlord
    @Fndlord Рік тому +1

    People like to pretend, that there isn’t drama in FF, but it’s far from the truth. The more suppressed a group of people become, the more bold they are in private or behind closed doors. Drama exists everywhere, we are only human after all. Still a great community, but don’t be fooled, people like this exist everywhere 😂.

  • @BM03
    @BM03 Рік тому +1

    This has reduced my respect for Xeno to pretty much 0 and I will be disconnecting myself from this community. Feel free to leave your hate in my inbox, I'll go through and ban everyone in there in a day or two.

  • @Daedyncide
    @Daedyncide Рік тому

    now that the content has been out, the logs are recorded. its time to name change and do it all over again.

  • @equipbasicsword
    @equipbasicsword Рік тому +1

    I thought the SAM was overreacting until the Redditor made an appearance. Lmao.

  • @xxJing
    @xxJing Рік тому +6

    Tanking in FF14 outside of savage content is probably the easiest thing you can do in this game. You can consistently fail mechanics as a tank and live through it.
    I honestly don't see how someone can fail at tanking without it being intentional. I specifically don't like to tank because there's very little room to show off and be considered an exceptionally good tank. You get such a huge safety net.

    • @DFfan555
      @DFfan555 Рік тому +2

      Not even Savage tanking is that hard. At least for Endwalker. You got huge hitboxes so no positioning, no positionals to worry about, and the HP and Defense to survive an oopsie.
      Current ultimates is where it gets hard to tank imo.

    • @xxJing
      @xxJing Рік тому +1

      @@DFfan555 True but for Savages you have a general player skill requirement where if you screw up a mechanic as any role you basically cause a wipe.

  • @DBel1991
    @DBel1991 Рік тому

    The ability of some people to write 40020202929 words essays from the most insignificant situation.

  • @pate7179
    @pate7179 Рік тому +3

    These are adults btw 😂😂😂

  • @purplefreedom1631
    @purplefreedom1631 11 місяців тому

    Why didn't the healer just heal the DPS? you can literally do the entire duty without a tank just like you can solo war and 3DPS duties...

  • @peterphane
    @peterphane Рік тому +1

    Wall to Wall pulls. Is the way! That's where I know what kind of party I got myself. Can the healer heal? Can the dps do AOE? That's how I know if I'm in a party that wants to get stuff done and move on. If I die as a tank, it's ok. I'll do it again, but there are fewer pulls. And of course I'll be AOE. 😂

  • @taronzgaming7739
    @taronzgaming7739 Рік тому +1

    I feel you on holding the dubya in dungeons. I usually just turn on auto run, any class. Sometimes if I'm feeling spicy I'll also add sprint so they have to at least try keep up.
    I think partly it's legacy from maining warrior for a while... once you no longer fear being away from the healer, you have conquered all fears... and that extends to my other classes too at this point.

  • @AlvinY4kitori
    @AlvinY4kitori Рік тому

    Somehow the redittor self inserted as the main character of the situation lmao

  • @taronzgaming7739
    @taronzgaming7739 Рік тому +1

    The main thing I don't get from this whole saga, if indeed the tank wasn't using his aoe is... how could that even feel remotely ok. Not in a messing with other players time way, but in a "this is boring as shit" way. While doing the last few levels to get my nin to 90, I got put into sastasha which scaled me down to 27. Rogue/Nin at 27 HAS NO AOE BUTTONS AT ALL. So I'm sitting in the dungeon doing my 1-2-3 against pack pulls and feeling like the biggest jackass in the damn world.
    But good news though, because Rogue gets a talent to reduce fall damage. That will really help make pack pulls not feel like anus.

  • @FreudianSlip247
    @FreudianSlip247 Рік тому

    Tank: Whats an AoE bruh? 😎