May be because it uses the exact backround baseline from Visage's Fade to Grey, she must've known that track from the eighties. Absolute banger, so take a listen if ya feel like it.
It can be both but it's actually about the fashion industry lol. That's just the truth. It's open to interpretation but people claiming they know the meaning behind it and ignoring it's actually about the fashion industry are dumb.
@@brissywink I mean, i kinda get why they might ignore the fashion industry side of it though? . A lot of the newer people here who found this from on tiktok and other platforms view it that way do so because they resonate with that reading of the lyrics, usually due to personal experience. I personally resonate more with is as being about predatory behaviour despite knowing the original purpose of the song, because other people will take different things out of a given piece of media depending on their own experiences, and people will interpret it differently throughout time since they grow up in different environments. For a group of people who grew up on the internet, it's no surprise that they take the predatory aspect of this song as their own interpretation considering how many kids were groomed online, especially during lockdown (rates rose by 40% in my country if I remember right). Someone who grew up when this song was originally made, however, might have less contact with the internet, since it was vastly different to how it is now, and more focused with traditional forms of fashion/entertainment consumption, and it seemed like the fashion industry had a much larger presence. New listeners won't resonate with the original message as much as this newer interpretation, so it's less they're ignoring the meaning and more they either don't even pick up on that meaning or personally resonate more with the newer one
'Seventeen' is about modeling agencies. "They only want you when you're 17, when you're 21 you're no fun." This is exactly how modeling agencies work. When you're 17 you're young enough to not have fully developed female curves yet, perfect for that skinny catwalk look, and old enough to legally work without all the parental hassle. When you're 21 you're considered an adult, have more female curves, plus harder to work with because of an adult mindset, as in knowing this is not a career you want to pursue, busy with university and (jealous) boyfriends. "They take a polaroid and let you go, say they'll let you know, so come on." 17 year olds go knocking on doors at modeling agencies, full of hope, thinking they're gonna be the next big thing. In reality you're just girl #186 that day. So they'll just take a quick Polaroid photo of you, write down your info on the back and they literally say "We'll let you know.." Just like any job interview, so yeah, come on.. All the young girls dancing in the observation room are resembling the hundreds of applications the agencies get on a daily basis, the staff walks around, keep making the application pile (all the Polaroids from the past few days) smaller and smaller till there is just one left, the best girl of that pile, who they might hire.
@@CorHellekin you are awesome. For real. It's like u commented my comment. I would be friends with you over whatever gulf, if adults did that. Be easy.
This song reminds me of predators. how they want to prey on you because you’re young but as you get older your no fun because you know what they're doing.
That was my first impression but now the Fashion industry has been mentioned I definitely see that now. At my age and proportions fashion is the last thing I'm interested in - does the clothing stretch and last two outings between laundry visit 😆 Seriously though, I've just recently 'discovered' this song (or my woeful memory exhibiting itself again!) but it's a catchy tune innit 👍
It takes a mind that thinks differently to understand and come up with this someone else would make a long song that would probably not be good. But this hits so much harder because its only 2 sentences and deeper than most songs...
people who are arguing about the message behind the song are failing to realize that the modeling industry and societal beauty standards go hand in hand. it relates to p*dophilia bc standards for women are that they are hairless, appear young, etc. ALSO there will be different interpretations of art bc everyone perceives things differently:)
Why do ppl care for the looks like I just don’t get it like there’s one person who can stop all of this but idc about the look idk why ppl care about the looks it’s not what is about the outside it’s what’s inside and what u think like:/
That’s not the beauty standards for women. It’s just the opposite of being a man. Being hairy is associated with testosterone and masculinity and also men like big b00bs/4ss which isn’t like children
The women beauty standards are literally just traits of children. Men are seen attractive once they get facial hair, deeper voices, taller and stronger, ect. Yet a women is cute when she has a high voice, skinny, clear skin, no body hair, ect. And honestly I'm sick of it.
@@derek12115 Why are the qualities of children portrayed as feminine? Society didn't just wake up one day and choose it. Do you not see the problem with this??
@@derek12115 You're speaking cap at this point. Yes, the average man is stronger than the average woman. However, women have higher pain tolerance due to the fact they have to give birth. This whole "men need to protect women" narrative isn't backed up by biology, its centuries worth of social construct. "Less hair to keep them warm" you just sound like a creep. "Weaker to protect them" tell me you're a mysogenist without telling me you're a mysogenist.
@@derek12115 I'm talking about how problematic it is that women who have the properties of children are seen as feminine. Sure some men protected women back years ago but the beauty standards for women weren't made for those reasons. For example, women having shaved legs and arms only began to be the normal for women during the war when industries began to shame women for not shaving in order to get more sales. The 'oblivious, naive and stupid' traits that are supposed to be seen as feminine have nothing to do with the fact men 'need to protect women'. If anything, its to control us. Someone easy to manipulate.
Writing this at 17. In a month and a half, I'll be 18, graduated, and going off to college. I haven't had a boyfriend, but I have gone to one singular party that I was invited to, but it was kind of mid as I went by myself. I went to homecoming, also alone, and I kind of intend on going to prom. I have about two true friends, and a couple of acquaintances, which will all change after school is over. Losing friends is something I'm willing to accept, as I know that I need to branch out and find people that are *really* for me. I have never been assaulted and hope to remain that way. I'm about 8th in my class when it comes to grades and I will be going to a nice university. I'm scared for the future. My fitness isn't ideal right now, but I'm at a "healthy" BMI. To the me who's reading this at 21, let me tell you this. As long as you're doing your best, that's all that matters. How you do anything is how you do everything, but it's ok to let yourself have a break once in a while. Eat good food, don't disrespect your body, listen to BTS, find good people you can trust, read books, study hard, talk to people, go to therapy, exercise once in a while, write poetry, write books, keep pursuing your passions, don't freak out about aging, and PLEASE manage a budget. You have tons of life left to live, even if it's when you're old. My grandpa is currently in intensive care, and I worry for his life. Whether he is still alive when you read this, I'm not sure, but please don't hang onto loss. Your loved ones would want you to live your best life while keeping them in your memories. Please love yourself
Even as life gets harder, it gets easier. You get better at it, I guess. I hate a lot of the lies we tell kids. "These are the best days of your lives" to depressed kids in high school, crap like that. Heh. Stupid lies. It's never over until you can't meme anymore. That's the important thing to remember.
I think they're trying to say that they only want you when you're seventeen and that when you're twenty-one, you're no fun. Reading between the lines, that's the impression I'm getting.
I think this song is talking about how when you're younger, you are easy to mold, but as you get a little older and understand the world better, you are able to question authority and stand up for yourself and not do everything you're told, so it's less fun for the people who were once in power over you. Could apply to the modeling industry as well, as you can hear them sing about the whole polaroid thing. very interesting song! :)
LongLiveInspiration Yes that is what the song inplys.--"IF you’re young you'r ok-- when you get "wise" you need to go". Too bad a lot of what happens in this world today people beleave what they see on the news as fact, but are deseved.
Sort of. It's actually about the modeling industry. 17 is the peak age for modeling. At 21, you've grown up a bit much to continue looking "fresh-faced".
Understandable, but 21 is still very young. I wouldn't start feeling that sad until you hit 30...lol. That's when you can rightfully say "Damn, I feel old" (and also start yelling at teenagers that pass by to get off your lawn). But seriously, I hope you enjoy your 20's. I wish I could redo my 20's.
@@selenan4140 Man...my reply is about to sound really generic, lol, but I mean it with the bottom of my heart. I know how it feels to feel be depressed (I still have depression that I never was able to "fix") but I hope you find something in your life that makes you feel better and makes life feel enjoyable for you. And that doesn't have to be another person (like a boyfriend or girlfriend). It could just be a best friend, or even you could be happy on your own with a really fun hobby. I do hope you have some close friends though that you can rely on. I think I've talked too much already, lol, but I hope things get better for you :).
LadyTron was one of my Dad’s favourite groups growing up, there was a guarantee that one of their tracks would be on one of his CD mixtapes. By August of this year, it will be Four years since he passed due to terminal cancer. Hearing their resurgence on Tiktok this past week and them getting more attention from Gen Z makes me really happy :)
I think this song is not just a commentary on the fashion industry, but on society as a whole. Men are allowed to age and have wrinkles and grey hair and still be considered attractive(Brad Pitt, Leonardo DiCaprio, George Clooney, etc), but most women in the public eye are discarded when they aren’t very young anymore. The only older women celebrities are the ones that have no signs of aging (Jennifer Lopez). Women are taught that they should be hairless, short and petite, have high voices, and to be innocent and submissive (all are characteristics of children). Women are mostly valued in society for our ability to fit the impossible beauty standard and to please men. I We are not valued as much on our maturity and intelligence. Once you are no longer oblivious to the world around you and you have lost your childlike features and you age(which is normal) you are no longer seen as of worth. Once you hit 30 you have reached your expiration date even though that is a very young age. The type of girl that men want is a young girl that is essentially a child. When you are 17, you have not yet realized what the world is like and are “more fun”. You are easier to take advantage of. When I was in my senior year of high school there were many men in their 20s waiting around for 17 year old girls. On porn websites there is a high demand for “barely legal videos”. When Danielle Brigolli turned 18 everyone was excited and there were comments saying they waiting for “so long”. When women are in their early 20s they are told to get settled while they still can so they don’t become an “old maid” while men are encouraged to settle down much later. There is so much more that I can add, but I will stop now lol.
It is not that they are “allowed”, you girls tend to find older men attractive, and men tend to find young women attractive. You type it in like it is a choice. Its not about “allowing” its rather how biology works.
@@foreignmau5566 no girls do not tend to find older men attractive, they tend to find men their age attractive. otherwise i'd see hordes of 20 year olds with 50 year olds on the street, when that's just not the case and it's more of an exception.
This song has a special place in my heart, my dad introduced me to it and we’d listen to it together. It’s one that comes back into my head like every 3 years.
i wish people would see past skin and age and appreciate people for their true, visceral beauty. beauty that is portrayed by their attitude on life and others. there was this older lady at a department store that helped me. super nice lady. she reminded me how she was once young...like every older person...and she still is that person! of course people worry about the inevitability of aging and how it makes them feel like a used car that depreciates in value from age...but like rare vintage cars that can make a statement, no matter what age you are, stand out by not giving a shit and be yourself because life is too short to worry, be sad and wish. enjoy it while you’re still here. vanity isn’t everything. in my opinion, the way you make others feel and how they remember you is more powerful and meaningful. please take care of yourself because no matter what age you are, you’re loved. thanks for reading.
I’m currently 17 Rn, and I can’t wait until I’m 21 to come back to this comment! I saw a comment that did something similar to this I want to try it too! Plz remind me in three years!
0:47 is my favorite, “They only want you when you’re 17, when you’re 21 you’re no fun. They take a Polaroid and let you go say they’ll let you know you know, so come on.”
I really think this is about the chaotic mind and soul when you're 17, but as you get older, you lost that chaos and you're not somebody people wanted anymore. Glad I'm still seventeen... gotta have some more fun.
I was listening to this one I was in middle schoo.I didn't think anybody else liked them and felt so uncool. Now I'm 31 and this song is popular on TikTok and my teenage self is smiling.
Wow, that reminds me so much of the movie "Level 16". Their age, the uniforms, the room... I wouldn't be surprised if the producers of Level 16 were inspired by this song and video.
Really cool song and video, I like how they interpreted selection in the fashion industry - putting a lot of young girls in one room in front of hidden judges and making them dance. Eventually only a handful will be selected and manage to stay. Very cool.
Kraftwerk also have a melancholic tone in their voice and the synth. But that is about it. The lyrics are mainly descriptive but more positive than neutral. I agree Ladytron is darker and explicitly critical. Good comparison!
Isn't it? I just caught my 20-year old son listening to that track while he was looking what to cook for dinner. Never heard him listening to pioneering synth music before. I immediately referred him to this one.
It’s unreal to me that this song is back. We danced to this like crazy in the local gay bar when it first came out. It was glorious. I miss the Noughties.
Watching / Listening to this great song 20 years later on the eve of 2022-2023. Those "17 teens" are now 37's, but I'm sure they're still fun! Great track ❤
I think this is about the modeling industry. Most models are chosen when they’re 17, and that’s when they start their careers. When you’re 21 you’re already too old to start.
I loved this song when I was seventeen, life was too clear by 21, now at 28, these songs make me soooo happy, like Death in Vegas - Hands around my throat
"...a pretty decent group of musicians..."? Ladytron members are freaking amazing musicians! Just count how many great songs/albums they released so far.
![Ladytron - Playgirl [Official Music Video]](/img/n.gif)
“You can’t make a good song with two lines”
Ladytron: hold my birthday candles
Daft punk made a song with 1line it's called "around the world"
@@timetraveler9518 the gods of edm
Fatboy's Slim "Right Here, Right Now" only contains the words of the title.
alice deejay
Nya itchy ni san
this isnt just a critique abt the fashion industry. its ALSO abt society's beauty standards and how men feel abt women aging
Thank you
That's ludicrous. What 21 year old woman had any trouble whatsoever attracting male attention?
@@bow_wow_wow is this a joke or...?
@@bow_wow_wow shut up male
What about the Polaroid and let you go line?
Im glad this song is getting more attention
Hello fellow barb😩
I meant hello* oops
@@--BACKTFUP Heyy bestie 🥴
Cringe
@@yusufgazi7 WTF DOES IT GIVE YOU CRINGE JUST BECAUSE A PERSON SAID THAT THIS GLAD THAT THE SONG HAS MORE ATTENTION??
"they take a polaroid and let you go, say theyll let you know"
this is totally a song about the fashion industry.
lysergicgirll totally! model life
Its about the modeling industry.
would not happen today, though. its way to deep for todays level of criticism.
It’s about Gaetz.
its about drugs fashion mocking american fashion and capitalism.
My mom hated my indie teenage taste in music...except this one she loved this song...
May be because it uses the exact backround baseline from Visage's Fade to Grey, she must've known that track from the eighties. Absolute banger, so take a listen if ya feel like it.
This Is not indie teenage im 43
@@cineurbano6889 Then you were 21 when this song came out 😅-So what are you trying to say?
It's because your mother has experience and knows how awfully men treat women
I see people arguing about whether it's predatory behavior or the fashion industry and I say: why can't it be both?
It can be both but it's actually about the fashion industry lol. That's just the truth. It's open to interpretation but people claiming they know the meaning behind it and ignoring it's actually about the fashion industry are dumb.
@@brissywink I mean, i kinda get why they might ignore the fashion industry side of it though? . A lot of the newer people here who found this from on tiktok and other platforms view it that way do so because they resonate with that reading of the lyrics, usually due to personal experience. I personally resonate more with is as being about predatory behaviour despite knowing the original purpose of the song, because other people will take different things out of a given piece of media depending on their own experiences, and people will interpret it differently throughout time since they grow up in different environments. For a group of people who grew up on the internet, it's no surprise that they take the predatory aspect of this song as their own interpretation considering how many kids were groomed online, especially during lockdown (rates rose by 40% in my country if I remember right). Someone who grew up when this song was originally made, however, might have less contact with the internet, since it was vastly different to how it is now, and more focused with traditional forms of fashion/entertainment consumption, and it seemed like the fashion industry had a much larger presence. New listeners won't resonate with the original message as much as this newer interpretation, so it's less they're ignoring the meaning and more they either don't even pick up on that meaning or personally resonate more with the newer one
To be fair there is a disturbing overlap
There's predatory in fashion industry, that's my catch on this masterpiece
Ong
'Seventeen' is about modeling agencies.
"They only want you when you're 17, when you're 21 you're no fun."
This is exactly how modeling agencies work. When you're 17 you're young enough to not have fully developed female curves yet, perfect for that skinny catwalk look, and old enough to legally work without all the parental hassle. When you're 21 you're considered an adult, have more female curves, plus harder to work with because of an adult mindset, as in knowing this is not a career you want to pursue, busy with university and (jealous) boyfriends.
"They take a polaroid and let you go, say they'll let you know, so come on."
17 year olds go knocking on doors at modeling agencies, full of hope, thinking they're gonna be the next big thing. In reality you're just girl #186 that day. So they'll just take a quick Polaroid photo of you, write down your info on the back and they literally say "We'll let you know.." Just like any job interview, so yeah, come on..
All the young girls dancing in the observation room are resembling the hundreds of applications the agencies get on a daily basis, the staff walks around, keep making the application pile (all the Polaroids from the past few days) smaller and smaller till there is just one left, the best girl of that pile, who they might hire.
Thanks for explaining the inherently obvious lyrics.
Damn guys they didn't offend anyone by explaining it so why are y'all bitching about?
@Blood Beryl Well I didn't really get it. Klk's comment was helpful.
@@CorHellekin you are awesome. For real. It's like u commented my comment. I would be friends with you over whatever gulf, if adults did that. Be easy.
@@mawtagasolais9624 oh my, you really flatter me. Thank you a lot.
It's not just about the fashion industry, it's about predatory behavior
I was thinking the same thing.
i thought the same thing. minors often get catcalled and sexually assaulted more than adults
Absolutely. I got into this when it came out but it's still so relevant.
It’s tiktok ruining a good song
@@Chuy1799 is this song on tik tok?
Im 17 atm, can’t wait to come back to this at 21
(Edit) thanks for the likes I’ve never gotten so many, I hope you guys are doing well
18 rn and shitting myself because im close to being 20
@@sunflower0243 I just turned 20 and I listened to this song when I was 17 🥲
i’m 18 ☹️
@@sunflower0243 me too, I am not ready to be a grown up at all ;-;
i'm 17 and i'm 18 in september chile
This hits hard while dancing in your room in barely clothing
So true, as said by the ultimate hope.
Be my friend
I’ve summoned them
W h a t
@@muze7171 The hell lmao
This song reminds me of predators. how they want to prey on you because you’re young but as you get older your no fun because you know what they're doing.
That was my first impression but now the Fashion industry has been mentioned I definitely see that now. At my age and proportions fashion is the last thing I'm interested in - does the clothing stretch and last two outings between laundry visit 😆
Seriously though, I've just recently 'discovered' this song (or my woeful memory exhibiting itself again!) but it's a catchy tune innit 👍
Get off of TikTok and get a life.
@@ALT-vz3jn huh?
@@ALT-vz3jn wtf, u ok?
@@ALT-vz3jn how tf does this have to do with anything
This song has such a darker undertone into 2020...
Why?
what's your interpretation
are u talking about the infamous 'female attractiveness vs age' graph? truely sickening....
@@Ella-ks7jp shit made me sick fr
@@Ella-ks7jp where may I find this graph, I searched it up but didn't see anything too out of place?
one of the shortest lyrics and yet there artists nowadays who cannot put more meaning in their 6-album-long discographies
Yep! And they get creative with their limited lyrics, the instrumental is really nice honestly
This is so damn fucking true....
It takes a mind that thinks differently to understand and come up with this someone else would make a long song that would probably not be good. But this hits so much harder because its only 2 sentences and deeper than most songs...
Even the singing starts at exactly 0:17
Good catch!
@@CAT-2323
I knew your comment was gonna say that.
@@marywealth6475 good catch
😂😂
people who are arguing about the message behind the song are failing to realize that the modeling industry and societal beauty standards go hand in hand. it relates to p*dophilia bc standards for women are that they are hairless, appear young, etc. ALSO there will be different interpretations of art bc everyone perceives things differently:)
THANK YOU, I feel like people forget that a song can have multiple meanings without invalidating each other
Why do ppl care for the looks like I just don’t get it like there’s one person who can stop all of this but idc about the look idk why ppl care about the looks it’s not what is about the outside it’s what’s inside and what u think like:/
literally
That’s not the beauty standards for women. It’s just the opposite of being a man. Being hairy is associated with testosterone and masculinity and also men like big b00bs/4ss which isn’t like children
more like ephebophilia
They only want you when you're 2017, when you're 2021 your no fun!
:D :D :D
Smart ;)
Foookk so true
Please 2017 was the worst year ever 😫
@@TheEndofThis yeah but in 2021 everyone gets offended by everything
The women beauty standards are literally just traits of children. Men are seen attractive once they get facial hair, deeper voices, taller and stronger, ect. Yet a women is cute when she has a high voice, skinny, clear skin, no body hair, ect.
And honestly I'm sick of it.
@@derek12115 This is just straight up the discription of a child, you can't deny that
@@derek12115 Why are the qualities of children portrayed as feminine? Society didn't just wake up one day and choose it. Do you not see the problem with this??
@@derek12115 You're speaking cap at this point. Yes, the average man is stronger than the average woman. However, women have higher pain tolerance due to the fact they have to give birth. This whole "men need to protect women" narrative isn't backed up by biology, its centuries worth of social construct. "Less hair to keep them warm" you just sound like a creep. "Weaker to protect them" tell me you're a mysogenist without telling me you're a mysogenist.
@@derek12115 I'm talking about how problematic it is that women who have the properties of children are seen as feminine. Sure some men protected women back years ago but the beauty standards for women weren't made for those reasons. For example, women having shaved legs and arms only began to be the normal for women during the war when industries began to shame women for not shaving in order to get more sales. The 'oblivious, naive and stupid' traits that are supposed to be seen as feminine have nothing to do with the fact men 'need to protect women'. If anything, its to control us. Someone easy to manipulate.
@@derek12115 Then leave😐
Writing this at 17. In a month and a half, I'll be 18, graduated, and going off to college. I haven't had a boyfriend, but I have gone to one singular party that I was invited to, but it was kind of mid as I went by myself. I went to homecoming, also alone, and I kind of intend on going to prom. I have about two true friends, and a couple of acquaintances, which will all change after school is over. Losing friends is something I'm willing to accept, as I know that I need to branch out and find people that are *really* for me. I have never been assaulted and hope to remain that way. I'm about 8th in my class when it comes to grades and I will be going to a nice university. I'm scared for the future. My fitness isn't ideal right now, but I'm at a "healthy" BMI.
To the me who's reading this at 21, let me tell you this. As long as you're doing your best, that's all that matters. How you do anything is how you do everything, but it's ok to let yourself have a break once in a while. Eat good food, don't disrespect your body, listen to BTS, find good people you can trust, read books, study hard, talk to people, go to therapy, exercise once in a while, write poetry, write books, keep pursuing your passions, don't freak out about aging, and PLEASE manage a budget. You have tons of life left to live, even if it's when you're old. My grandpa is currently in intensive care, and I worry for his life. Whether he is still alive when you read this, I'm not sure, but please don't hang onto loss. Your loved ones would want you to live your best life while keeping them in your memories. Please love yourself
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Update? :D
Even as life gets harder, it gets easier. You get better at it, I guess.
I hate a lot of the lies we tell kids. "These are the best days of your lives" to depressed kids in high school, crap like that. Heh. Stupid lies.
It's never over until you can't meme anymore. That's the important thing to remember.
@@abbyagust we'll let you know
I think they're trying to say that they only want you when you're seventeen and that when you're twenty-one, you're no fun. Reading between the lines, that's the impression I'm getting.
+Sad MapSalesman so deep I found oil
+Sam Harper They also are saying they always take a Polaroid, let you go, and say they'll let you know. However, the ultimate outcome is unclear.
+Sam Harper You could also say you can only watch someone that is 17 from behind a screen
I would say that's an accurate assessment. . .
My good sir, I think you have just managed to discover the Philosophers Stone.
The song is a critique of the fashion industry, and their standards when recruiting models. It's unbelievable that so few people figured that out.
Prada vibes as i sad
i thought it was ab gr00m1ng
@@user-Bubu no lol it’s about the modeling industry.
@@waxeater112 could be interpreted that way
Thats why this song is so good, there are so many ways you can interpreted it
this song legit has like two lines and still has so many valid points
I distinctly remember being into this song when I was 17. Coincidentally I just bumped into this video again and I'm 21.
Aghhh depressing.
I will try, my friend!
Unfortunately we do not realise how young we were until we're older.
And now you're 24. Soon you'll be 40..... Still depressed?
You have been no fun for over 4 years now...
So come on..
I used to listen to this when i was 17,too,and now I'm 24. i honestly hate my life and i only have 2 decent friends now,whatayagunnado though lol.
My mom used to play this album all the time when I was a kid, can't believe I'm turning 21 this year. I will definitely play this during my birthday
was into this when i was 16 and now i'm 28 :) great.
Same
And you’re still fun!
31!!
I think this song is talking about how when you're younger, you are easy to mold, but as you get a little older and understand the world better, you are able to question authority and stand up for yourself and not do everything you're told, so it's less fun for the people who were once in power over you. Could apply to the modeling industry as well, as you can hear them sing about the whole polaroid thing. very interesting song! :)
LongLiveInspiration
Yes that is what the song inplys.--"IF you’re young you'r ok-- when you get "wise" you need to go".
Too bad a lot of what happens in this world today people beleave what they see on the news as fact, but are deseved.
+LongLiveInspiration I think people are questioning authorities more as young. I wish I questioned as much today as I did back then.
Sort of. It's actually about the modeling industry. 17 is the peak age for modeling. At 21, you've grown up a bit much to continue looking "fresh-faced".
+LongLiveInspiration no
Jack Squat very intelligent interpretation
I’m 21 and disturbingly I get less attention than when I was 17. Hearing this song gives be chills. It makes me sad.
Understandable, but 21 is still very young. I wouldn't start feeling that sad until you hit 30...lol. That's when you can rightfully say "Damn, I feel old" (and also start yelling at teenagers that pass by to get off your lawn).
But seriously, I hope you enjoy your 20's. I wish I could redo my 20's.
@@Knight_Of_Eleum_Loyce id enjoy it more if I wasn’t so depressed 😅😅😅
@@selenan4140 Man...my reply is about to sound really generic, lol, but I mean it with the bottom of my heart. I know how it feels to feel be depressed (I still have depression that I never was able to "fix") but I hope you find something in your life that makes you feel better and makes life feel enjoyable for you. And that doesn't have to be another person (like a boyfriend or girlfriend). It could just be a best friend, or even you could be happy on your own with a really fun hobby. I do hope you have some close friends though that you can rely on. I think I've talked too much already, lol, but I hope things get better for you :).
@@Knight_Of_Eleum_Loyce thank you for your support 💕
@@selenan4140
Go do and see as much stuff as possible. Even if your depression prevents you from enjoying it, you'll thank yourself later.
I'm 17 now, I'll be back to cry when I'm 21
UPDATE: turned 21 October 8th and I was too drunk to even cry so☠️
You'll most likely forget
Every week I’ll come back to remind you
If you see this, I’m not letting you forget
@@muze7171 I’ll remind to you come back every week
Happy 18!
Thanks tiktok, I come to hear this song every day
This is a tiktok song now? I feel oldddd lol
@@jinx17 yea lol
@@jinx17 no one cares
@@rodriguezmarcos4988 mind your business then homeboy
@@jinx17 no I don’t understand why adults keep saying I’m getting old
LadyTron was one of my Dad’s favourite groups growing up, there was a guarantee that one of their tracks would be on one of his CD mixtapes. By August of this year, it will be Four years since he passed due to terminal cancer. Hearing their resurgence on Tiktok this past week and them getting more attention from Gen Z makes me really happy :)
Hey im rlly srry to here that im glad it made you happy though!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wasn’t 17 or 21 when this came out but did listen to this song at 17 and jammed to it. Can’t believe next year the song will be 21 years
Ladytron & Crystal Castles are AMAZING! And very unique!
Alice Glass isn’t in this though? She’s from crystal castles
You understand real music. I am virtually shaking your hand in a sign of recognition & respect🤜
@@TheNatashaFerreira dude's just saying that crystal castles is another amazing band that he enjoys as well as Ladytron 😜
Literally discovered this song on my 17th birthday. I turned 21 on Wednesday, so I’m revisiting this amazing song.
I'm completely addicted to this song
same
They only want you when you're seventeen
When you're twenty-one
You're no fun
Prince Andrew agrees.
In his case the younger the better. Allegedly ahem...
Shouldn't laugh but 😄😄 durty boy!
Oh snap!
This needs more likes.......and cowbell.
And the infamous Prince Andrew Duke of York. I wonder why Wikipedia keeps taking addition to the Duke of York entries...
I dont know why i like this song so much.
Bc its good?
I'm 48 I was only 35 when this was uploaded, how I wish I heard it then, could have saved me 21 years!
43 myself wish I was in my early 30's again perhaps... The years fly but 20's hell no. Such horrible times those early years
I'm 17 and I'm listening to this for the first time!
Same
Same wtf
Sameee!
Enjoy your next 4 years then! Have they taken your polaroid yet?
Now your 19
I think this song is not just a commentary on the fashion industry, but on society as a whole.
Men are allowed to age and have wrinkles and grey hair and still be considered attractive(Brad Pitt, Leonardo DiCaprio, George Clooney, etc), but most women in the public eye are discarded when they aren’t very young anymore. The only older women celebrities are the ones that have no signs of aging (Jennifer Lopez).
Women are taught that they should be hairless, short and petite, have high voices, and to be innocent and submissive (all are characteristics of children). Women are mostly valued in society for our ability to fit the impossible beauty standard and to please men. I We are not valued as much on our maturity and intelligence. Once you are no longer oblivious to the world around you and you have lost your childlike features and you age(which is normal) you are no longer seen as of worth. Once you hit 30 you have reached your expiration date even though that is a very young age.
The type of girl that men want is a young girl that is essentially a child. When you are 17, you have not yet realized what the world is like and are “more fun”. You are easier to take advantage of. When I was in my senior year of high school there were many men in their 20s waiting around for 17 year old girls. On porn websites there is a high demand for “barely legal videos”. When Danielle Brigolli turned 18 everyone was excited and there were comments saying they waiting for “so long”.
When women are in their early 20s they are told to get settled while they still can so they don’t become an “old maid” while men are encouraged to settle down much later.
There is so much more that I can add, but I will stop now lol.
You have explained this perfectly. I reread it again.
For me I idc about the looks it all bout ur inside and what u think but some ppl don’t get that:/
well said, and it's sad
It is not that they are “allowed”, you girls tend to find older men attractive, and men tend to find young women attractive. You type it in like it is a choice. Its not about “allowing” its rather how biology works.
@@foreignmau5566 no girls do not tend to find older men attractive, they tend to find men their age attractive. otherwise i'd see hordes of 20 year olds with 50 year olds on the street, when that's just not the case and it's more of an exception.
I feel really bad cause I discovered this really good song thanks to tiktok😫 I failed
ah same
same but idc
me too!
i feel ashamed
No need for shame. You're here now, right?
stop saying y’all can’t wait till your 21........the meaning is going over a lot of y’all’s heads.
I can’t wait till I’m 21
Omg where have I been this band belongs with the legends like Depeche mode, human league, John foxx etc I love them xx
umm Visage?
You ever notice just how many songs involve being 17?
I love this song but I cant help but hear the roblox sound when you die in the background💀
oooof~ 😏
that’s what i was thinking 💀
EWWWWFFFFFF
oof😭
NOOO I CAN'T UNHEAR IT
I can’t stop vibing with this song
This song has a special place in my heart, my dad introduced me to it and we’d listen to it together. It’s one that comes back into my head like every 3 years.
I feel like the song hook is a literal phrase that someone in a position of power said to her.
i turned 21 today!! listening to this on repeat and for no reason at all!! i hate aging.
Daily reminder it's only going to get worse.
i just randomly remembered the line "when you're 21 you're no fun" and put that into the youtube search bar.
I'm turning 17 this year. It feels crazy. I feel both like I'm supposed to be much younger and older at the same time.
Just found your comment in 2021... are you 21 now??
@@Maja-np2dz 17 + 3 is 20
@@elizabethgillen3660 lmaoo quick maf luv it
You're 21!!
This song is so true for life. Love the beat. heh
i wish people would see past skin and age and appreciate people for their true, visceral beauty. beauty that is portrayed by their attitude on life and others. there was this older lady at a department store that helped me. super nice lady. she reminded me how she was once young...like every older person...and she still is that person! of course people worry about the inevitability of aging and how it makes them feel like a used car that depreciates in value from age...but like rare vintage cars that can make a statement, no matter what age you are, stand out by not giving a shit and be yourself because life is too short to worry, be sad and wish. enjoy it while you’re still here. vanity isn’t everything. in my opinion, the way you make others feel and how they remember you is more powerful and meaningful. please take care of yourself because no matter what age you are, you’re loved. thanks for reading.
I remember being 17 and listen to this a lot. Today I turned 21. I'm about to find out if being 21 stops being fun. I'll prove otherwise.
How was it
You're 27 now damn
@@Alyssa333 It was good. No complaints.
I’m currently 17 Rn, and I can’t wait until I’m 21 to come back to this comment!
I saw a comment that did something similar to this I want to try it too!
Plz remind me in three years!
I was 17 when I kept listening to this song, now I'm 21
0:47 is my favorite, “They only want you when you’re 17, when you’re 21 you’re no fun. They take a Polaroid and let you go say they’ll let you know you know, so come on.”
I love this song, I literally heard it when I turned 17. The beat is so much fun!
0:55 i like the ufo-ish sounds in the background lmao
And after listening to 4 songs or so, I have decided in the last 10 minutes I have to buy Ladytron's entire collection.
Positive life choice!
Good choice! And may the force be forever with you!
Great decision, because all their discography is awesome.
Off topic, but,
Yay I found a comment older than 5 years
if ur here u have the best taste in music and i love u
This song came out in 2002 and I actually was 18 that year. I could have shaved a year of my life off just for this song, LOL!!!!
Really liked the austere matching uniforms on the band. Made them look like cool, beautiful merciless cyborgs.
Tonight I will celebrate my 17 years with this song
I'm gonna do the same!! 🎉
@@Najaa.a yeeeeeep, happy bday!
@@kioallay THANKYOU SO MUCHHHH you are the first person to wish actually. happy birthday to you too!! 🥳💗 (I'm prolly late but still)
@Najaaa. awww thank u cutie!!! 💗
I used to listen to this when I was 15, now I'm 17🥲
im listening to this while im 15, im still 15
OMG SAME just rediscovered it!!
My biggest flex is that I know all the words too this song.
I really think this is about the chaotic mind and soul when you're 17, but as you get older, you lost that chaos and you're not somebody people wanted anymore.
Glad I'm still seventeen... gotta have some more fun.
I was listening to this one I was in middle schoo.I didn't think anybody else liked them and felt so uncool. Now I'm 31 and this song is popular on TikTok and my teenage self is smiling.
This gonna blow up again
Wow, that reminds me so much of the movie "Level 16". Their age, the uniforms, the room... I wouldn't be surprised if the producers of Level 16 were inspired by this song and video.
I was thinking this too!
Born in 87...this song still slaps
always the songs that are such bops with a painful but relatable meaning
The song is about modeling and how quickly it slips away.
it's like the Knife and industrial music had a musical lovechild -> Ladytron
i found out about this song when I was 17. since i turned 21 last week this is the only song thats been playing in my head and it s DEPRESSING
I like the pulsating beat of this
Really cool song and video, I like how they interpreted selection in the fashion industry - putting a lot of young girls in one room in front of hidden judges and making them dance. Eventually only a handful will be selected and manage to stay. Very cool.
It's like a dark counterpoint to Kraftwerk's The Model. :)
Kraftwerk also have a melancholic tone in their voice and the synth. But that is about it. The lyrics are mainly descriptive but more positive than neutral. I agree Ladytron is darker and explicitly critical. Good comparison!
Isn't it? I just caught my 20-year old son listening to that track while he was looking what to cook for dinner. Never heard him listening to pioneering synth music before. I immediately referred him to this one.
Nice
Blue monday beat there too
Yes! Even a tip of the hat !
It’s unreal to me that this song is back. We danced to this like crazy in the local gay bar when it first came out. It was glorious. I miss the Noughties.
...
I remember listening to this when I was 16 in Lebanon, first being introduced to the underground nightclub world...what a time.
all the 17 and 21 yr olds banding together to sad twerk really warms my depressed heart
i love this song it has understanding meanings behind it
Watching / Listening to this great song 20 years later on the eve of 2022-2023. Those "17 teens" are now 37's, but I'm sure they're still fun! Great track ❤
The song came out in 1999. Wouldnt that make them 41 this year?
I think this is about the modeling industry. Most models are chosen when they’re 17, and that’s when they start their careers. When you’re 21 you’re already too old to start.
at 17, cool is what other people say it is. at 21, girls start to look for themselves and grow inside beyond control.
I came here cuz I miss those days 🥹 love it 🙌🏻
listening to this on my 21st birthday to remind myself that I'm no fun
I loved this song when I was seventeen, life was too clear by 21, now at 28, these songs make me soooo happy, like Death in Vegas - Hands around my throat
damn i missed this song by a year well at least ill be able to listen to it when im 21
This is such a underrated song.
So deep
I agree
not anymore. tiktok ruining things i like as usual
@@waxeater112 they just do playback on songs💀
When this song came out almost 20 years ago we danced to it in the gay clubs we had so much fun.
Masterpiece. Why wasn't this a hit
Found this song from tvtropes and now I'm getting into Ladytron, their music is so stylish.
The beat reminds me of girls and boys from blur. Good songs
"it's been 85 years" now it's 2020 i still feel like bleak dancing to this.
Mesmerizing, disruptive, stunning, beautiful, gorgeous, pure art. ❤
This reminds me of being 17 and chasing older guys. I’m almost 21 now and well... I’m no fun lol
See yeah you get the concept of the song 👍 or at least what I feel is the concept of the song
@@jspence8863 the song is about the fashion industry
A decade later and the message is STILL relevant!?! Always will be...
God, this song just takes me to specific times and places. Classic.
I remember hearing this in the University computer lab by accident. It is so great to stumble upon an epic band.
"...a pretty decent group of musicians..."? Ladytron members are freaking amazing musicians! Just count how many great songs/albums they released so far.
i turned 21 a couple months ago this definitely makes so much more sense now..
When I turned 17, Sunday, my friend Cameron sent me the link to this video, and I fell in love with it instantly! ✊👊✊👊
well.... you're around 23+ now, how does it feel?
@@scrappaper1418 I'm pretty sure it feels normal.. lol
@@currentlywaiting1081 ... that's... the joke