This Simple Change Makes Ball Striking So Much Easier
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2024
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Literally just learned this among other things yesterday from a guy I took a lesson with. Thought he was crazy at first but he had a similar body style as mine. Taller and longer arms. I had to search youtube just to find these videos. I wonder why its not taught by some of the more influential youtubers. After the lesson I hit balls higher, further, and straighter than I ever have. It promotes good rotation and a proper follow through
Incredible! I was struggling with contact and a little flippy as well. I’m a 78-83 golfer but not lately…I moved all of my wedges/ irons, up in my stance and absolutely crushing every single shot. I discovered this on my own and later looked this up on UA-cam. You are 100% on the money about this theory. Love the channel and continued success. Rich Z. Orlando, Florida ⛳️🙏
Hi Russell, just wanted to thank you for your fantastic easy to follow coaching. So many other golfing UA-cam channels complicate swing advice. Keep it up 👍
Cheers Bradders
Effective, well presented lesson.
Great video, thank you for your knowledge, outstanding!
Tried this yesterday at the range - played the ball more forward off my left side and tinkered with the club off the ball 1 to 2 inches at address. It worked extremely well for me. Better consistent contact, higher ball flight. It will take some work to get the ball flight down since I play in wind a fair amount due to geography. Also helped me realize that my swing is my swing and what I can repeat is what I should stay with... I am guilty of too much tinkering. Appreciate the video.
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This video is great, a single handicap player told me this after watching me struggle with my game and the results were fantastic it felt a bit strange at first but after trying it for a few days I soon got used to it, its bought my handicap down to 11 with in a few weeks and hopefully single figures soon.
keep up the good work.
Awesome work
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Dear Russel I start to Wach your videos a year ago and it’s became my first proper lessons and brings my understanding to biomechanics of swing to another level. Unfortunately in Ukraine’s no coaches at all compère to your level.
Many thanks 🙏
I am looking forward one day do coaching face to face and thank u personally .
I think you just cured my flipping, thanks.
Are used to play the ball forward all the time. As I’ve gotten older, I’ve moved the ball more towards the center of my stance. I’ve also experienced what my instructor calls “body stall.“ It will be interesting to see if moving the ball forward again solves this problem.
Thanks very much for your video
Sure worth giving it a go. If not it’s still a great drill to encourage you to hit through the ball
These videos are so easy to follow.
Thanks
Sorry, I tried it as you showed it and it works, plus added 10-20yds to my 8 iron with more accuracy. I did add a change to look directly in front of the ball instead of behind it. Going to try my 7 irin next since I only hit it 140 yards now and I should be hitting it 150 to 160 yards. We will see and I will report.
Only played 9 hole one fairway missed 4 over par ball off my left foot stupid or what for every iron my concentration and strike was awesome but now have a sore back. Worth it. Love it George 💎💎💎
Well done and thanks for sharing.
I’m in the process of tinkering with ball position. I’ve found moving the ball position forward helps give me time to close the club face, especially the driver/woods. Too far towards center and I’ll get some pushes/fades. I’ve suspected a stalled rotation, moving the ball forward forces the issue like he explains in the video.
Great tips are always simple.
Yeah great to keep it simple
1:58 - And for the more advanced player; Hips, body, chest lead the arms AND THEN in that small frame before impact, the trail elbow synchronizes with the trail hip, for that amazing lag and zip release. A very Hogan-esque technique and extremely powerful.
Hogan in Five Lessons suggested keeping the ball in the same place just behind the front heel for all clubs but also opening stance for clubs shorter than 7 iron and closing for longer ones. Always curious about cause and effect analyzed how changing stance angle affected other variables and discovered that with Hogan’s hip centric, side bending swing style it affects how far the hands are able to swing forward relative to the ball position while hips are kept locked 45° by keeping back heel on ground. Opening the stance allows the hands to swing further forward before lag is released (relative to parallel stance 7 iron swing) and closing stance causes the hands to come down further back (relative to ball position) allowing more room for the longer shafted clubs to swing around the hands and accelerate.
Because of the physics striking force of F = 1/2(Mass x Velocity^2) stopping the hands and whipping the club around them can generate exponentially more striking force than the sweep-of-arms swing style used by most recreational golfers and Hogan’s strategy of constant ball position and varying stance to match swing radius around hands to club shaft length was a very brilliant intuitive application of that physics compared the contemporary wisdom of always keeping heels parallel to target line and moving ball back to where the club head makes contact with ground.
The wider and more closed stance for longer clubs Hogan advocated also makes it easier to make contact with the ball slightly inside of center (relative to target line) with inside-square-inside path (relative to target line). Having used both techniques I found Hogan’s changing of stance technique easy to implement if just trying to line up and hit straight shots but if changing stance to hit fades it requires a two step process: first needing to adjust stance for shape of shot then for club being used-not complicated but something one must remember to do methodically to hit the shaped shots correctly.
Good stuff
so i did exactly that, and i even managed to take divets, where i never do. one problem i had was that i had a straight draw or i was hitting the ball thin sometimes. i thought if i change my grip and make it less strong perhaps i wont draw so much? but i will most def be keeping that ball forward.
As most of you know, Ben Hogan’s 5 Lessons shows the ball off the left heel for EVERY club. The right foot position is the variable.
Spot on
Well said
Yes, that’s the way I was taught, many years ago. Got away from it over the years.
So basically, when addressing the ball, keep our feet together with the ball in the middle and then step back the appropriate distance with the just the right foot (shorter step back for shorter clubs).
@@ra1der5 That’s right.
Just found this. I usted to play the ball in one position and somehow got away from it. Plan to return per your video. My miss is either fat shot or a block. Thanks for the tip.
Moving the ball forward is transforming my swing for the better. I struggled with all irons until I started moving ball consistantly off my left heel for all clubs. I simply bring my stance in for shorter clubs. I'm hitting greens with consistency again! I was smothering might shots before and was unable to close the clubface fast enough. Ball flight was too low.
It works. Been doing this for three weeks or more, all clubs. With the shorts irons, make sure your shoulders don't point left, otherwise you'll get contact issues. For anybody who doesn't shift their weight left naturally, this could instantly save you. Thanks for the tip!
We’ll done Neil
Back in my younger, better days, I played my irons forward. Over the years, I moved the ball towards center. I was probably losing aggressive rotation and proper pressure shifting and replaced it with a more passive turning. Hopefully, this insight will reawaken old ghosts. Well done.
Let’s hope so
That was what Jack Nicholas said where the ball position should be in a normal shot. The width between the feet is different for different clubs.
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Perfect!
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Question is, once you find a bit more compression and proper balance and rotation, is it time to start moving the ball to(wards) the middle of the stance for shorter irons and wedges? Do you keep the ball forward with all your clubs and simply change stance itself ala Jack Nicklaus?
Good question
I think you’ll figure it out. Start it forward and push the rotation until you’ve notice a better strike. I would then suggest keep your eye on the ball flight and adjust if needed. I personally play all clubs inside left foot
@@russellheritagegolf If you play them all off the left heel, do you move the back foot closer as you move down toward the wedges to allow for the club length changes?
Interesting to mention Jack Nicklaus. I learned to play using his method many years ago and unfortunately stopped playing about 15 years ago. Recently started playing, or trying to play again and it seemed the whole game has changed. Not to mention that I’ve gotten older, fatter and stiffer.
Putting the ball central in my stance has been so difficult for me it would seem. Then I found this channel and had an ahh ha moment and was able to get through the ball and release. Extension is still difficult for me but I’m getting there slowly. Thanks so much.
Great video..Nick Faldo always played with the ball 2 inches off his left heel for every club.
Intelligent and well communicated instruction.
Cheers
I dont know if the YT algorithm is watching my golf training, but its weird that this popped up because I'm struggling with this exactly right now. Thanks Russell!
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So I’ve always understood the farther forward the ball the more fade, the farther back the more draw? How do you put the ball forward but still maintain an inside path going back for draw?
Play around with wrists angles and see if you can control the path with the new ball position
Did this today and ball striking much more consistent
Early on, I injured my wrist by hitting steeply down on the ball. I could only swing by having the ball 2 inches forward from my club. It forced me to "sweep" the ball, but I have it in my swing. It certainly has forced me to follow thru.
On it tomorrow at the range and on the course 💎💎💎
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Coming from baseball
I was always a pull hitter, I would smash the ball when was inside and way in front of me…
I started moving forward in sim and what a game changer
It’s off my front toe for driver now instead of heel..
Higher flight and nice draws
For me this is such a underrated drill that more Amateurs need to do including myself and like you say keep it simple. Great video keep it up.
Thanks
Are we saying to actually play with the ball forward or just doing the drill with the ball forward.
How far do you suggest moving ball forward?
Just experiment and keep an eye on ball flight
About 2” from the hole…….
Ball is only forwards for the drill? Or are we to actually playing the ball forward in a real round as well
Many great ball strikers keep it forward nearly always. Hogan, Nicklaus, Heritage.
I would play it forward and see how it’s goes
This drill has really helped my ball striking. What I had to pair it with to make it stick though was when I moved the ball back to center I had to look in front of the ball. If I put my focus in front of the ball my body goes where my eyes tell it to. If I bring my eyes back to the ball I lose most of it.
For me focus was more key than the drill. But the drill helped me find the feel for it.
We’ll done Ben
it wasn't that clear but on some shots he set up with the club 2 or 3 inches behind the ball. is that the idea?
You could do, don’t have to. The idea is to experiment with the ball further forward to encourage you to hit through the ball
Interesting. I am moving back off the ball and head moves back in downswing. I am doing a ball way forward drill to train my head to stay centered or I will never make contact.
Next video will also help understand head moves in the golf swing
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The further forward you move ball position, the harder it becomes to hit down on the ball. Which is not really a problem with longer irons as much as it would be for mid and scoring irons. Why not just teach him to swing properly?
what you don't understand is sometimes you have to experiment so a person gets the right feel. A lot of people "feel" like they are hitting down on the ball when in reality they aren't. Instructors have to try different things for different people to help them get the right feel. Then they can take the next step whatever that may be.
I think this is an option that really helps a lot of golfers trigger moves without having to think so much about the positions.
Been watching all male and female professionals recently to see how they set up the ball in their stance. Started to notice that almost 100% they play every wood or iron off the left heel area. Watching this has convinced me to work at this drill to see if it improves my inconsistent ball striking. I’ll report back as soon as I can get a few rounds in. Thanks for the confirmation of ball position the pros seem to use.
Thanks Ian
Its been 2 weeks. Time to check in.
Ball position is not ever to be a one and only. Ball position is an individual case by case evaluation based on a golfers build, age, low point of swing.
Yep
Well for me I could not see one ball flight, swings are too fast to pick up change in club path. Why is club so far behind ball on iron shots?
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moving the ball forward in the set up encourages you to move forward which is a good thing, I see players falling back after contact with the obvious results great video Russell
Question is how much forward, too much forward the ball hits thin. Moving the ball forward ok? By how much? My coaches said 5 iron about mid stance, 8 irons slightly back making it easier to hit down on the ball. I could still get hip rotation and hit the ball square. When I tried moving an 8 forward results were topping, thinning, slices. I’ve adjusted the ball for irons 5-9 about mid stance, longer clubs ball position forward under my shirt logo. I also found having the ball forward made it harder to get good lag on the shot.
I had been topping the ball. I watched the video I went to the range and moved the ball forward and used the turn, immediately hit better.
Yeah this happens a lot 👍🏻
I just blade the ball with irons if its that far upfront
That’s fine, either practice to try to improve or put it back 👍🏻
This is my warmup drill before every round
Perfect
This causes me to come across the ball resulting in pushes, hitting off the toe, or slices.
Watch the latest video on the channel
I agree completely. I placed the ball as instructed for 50 years. The most difficult change I ever made was moving the ball back in my stance. Now I’m making much more consistent contact and compressing strikes with authority. This old dog is not a fan of this old trick.
My instructor told me years ago, BYT (before UA-cam) , do not buy golf magazines for the tips they have inside, they will only create more problems for you. The only way any of these tips work is if you get lucky and it addresses the specific problem YOU are having, otherwise you're only going to dig a hole for yourself. If I moved the ball that far forward in my stance I would top it all day long. If you want to learn the proper way for rotation, buy Ben Hogans book. Or better yet, find a good pro and take some one on one lessons.
Skip the jahja ff to 7:10
This obviously works for a lot of golfers, mainly pros, for myself and countless others it doesn’t.
How many golf balls do those robo mowers chew up?
I’m not sure. I don’t think any 🤔
2:58 - One the hardest attributes for an amateur to learn is the arms, wrists, and hands one the LAST things to come through the impact zone AND this all must start in transition, BEFORE the actual top of the swing. How to convince the population that the golf swing swing is a side-on sport. More than half of the body is sideways to the ball at impact and that CANNOT be accomplished swinging the arms first. The amateur must first convince himself that is ok to leave the clubhead way behind you, out of sight, for most of the downswing, it is LITERALLY lagging WAY behind the hips, torso, even the chest. Just think Annika Sorenstam, with that funny look ahead move BEFORE the ball strike and they start to realize what must happen.
Took lesson and coach had me move the ball forward…it took 8 strokes off my score over last 5 rounds!
That’s awesome 👍🏻
What is that roaming around in the background? Robots?
Yep, ball collectors
It’s how Jack Nicklaus played all his life
The wrists are in such a bad position.
Got almost, nothing, out of that? What, was, that?
So after a hundred plus years of putting the ball in the middle of your stance...
Rus mate u might know but So boring...why 8.46mins to fix in 30secs....sorry not easy to listen to or watch...good luck
Many people like the reinforcement, examples, and explanation. You can’t please everyone. Cheers, mate.
I think you're in the minority Phillip. Having the amateur footage, I related to it and then the drill/process to fix. Great length of the video and the instruction
I’ve been here long enough to know I’m not everyone’s cup of tea 👍🏻
@@russellheritagegolf A good sign that you’re on the right track.
@@russellheritagegolf cheers Russell, no offence meant...
He is manufacturing his balance, it’s not natural and very tense
It ain’t easy when you change your swing. Plus, he’s on camera. I think he did a fine job.
@@werquantum he did a fabulous job! I do the same and it bothers me that I feel like i have to force myself into positions but im sure as hell I’m not using my shoulders correctly or I burnt my speed at the top and ran out of energy preventing the full finish
@@desano1975 The hardest thing for most of us is staying loose.
I think it’s hard to hit on the channel. Especially for George because it’s easy to over think when going onto UA-cam. The idea of course is to discuss George’s swing but more importantly help others understand the process of change
Complete waste of time watching this video.
Good stuff