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Should You Buy The i7 4790 in 2023? - The $40 CPU That Runs Anything
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Today we take a look at Intel's i7-4790, the ultimate budget gaming CPU from 9 years ago that still packs a punch today! Despite its age, this processor offers incredible performance in modern games, making it an absolute steal at just $40. Equipped with Intel's fourth-generation "Haswell" architecture, the i7-4790 features advanced technologies like integrated voltage regulation, and Hyper-Threading making it an 8-core CPU. It may not be overclockable, but its base clock of 3.6GHz and single-core boost up to 4GHz make it a powerhouse for gaming. With impressive results in games like Cyberpunk and Halo Infinite, this CPU proves that age isn't a factor when it comes to gaming performance. Don't miss out on this incredible deal that combines affordability and top-notch gaming capabilities!
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:24 Haswell Architecture Improvements
2:37 Why The 4790 Is Still A GREAT Choice
3:54 Windows 10
4:09 Cinebench R23
4:34 Cyberpunk 2077 1440p Medium
5:11 Crysis Remastered 1440p High
5:42 Valorant 1440p High
6:12 CS:GO 1440p Medium
6:44 Halo Infinite 4k? Low
7:16 GTA V 1440p High
7:41 Beamng.Drive 1440p Normal
8:05 COD Warzone 1440p High
8:34 PUBG 1440p Low
8:58 i7 4790: The Conclusion
10:00 Now Go SUBSCRIBE!
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Hello everybody and today we're gonna be taking a look at one of best budget gaming CPUs out there! Its the i7 4790, and even though it came out 9 years ago its $40 price point and performance in modern games makes it an exceptionally good deal. Were gonna be taking a look at how it holds up in a few different titles, and Ive got the video split up into chapters if you want to skip ahead, but for now weve got to find out what made this processor so good.
The i7-4790, released back in May of 2014, was a part of Intel's fourth-generation “Haswell” processors and was one of the fastest CPUs in the world.
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Whether you were playing games or using it in a workstation, this processor offered enthusiast performance, with enthusiast pricing. Now, Intel used something called the tick-tock model. No, not the app, its a production model that guided their approach to releasing new processors. Essentially, every microarchitecture change was called a tock, and was followed by a die shrink of the process technology, known as a tick. So as part of the tock phase Haswell brought forth a new architecture, but didnt shrink the lithography like ivy bridge did.
As part of this architecture, Intel also released what they called an "integrated voltage regulator" which was placed on the CPU. Previously, the Voltage regulator module, the VRM, was located on the motherboard, but for Haswell intel moved the function to the die which allowed for finer control and more efficient power delivery to the processor.
And the 4790 was sure to take advantage of this, offering top notch performance with a power draw of only 84 watts. Unfortunately you cant overclock this processor, but the K variant, which you can overclock, was the first CPU to have a base clock of 4ghz. The non K variant, the one we have, has a base clock of only 3.6GHz but does have a single core boost up to 4ghz.
Now, there was a bunch of different versions of this processor, namely the 4790 K, S, and T. The K was unlocked and by far the most capable, the non suffixed verison was the base model we have, while the S and T variants came with lower TDPs and subsequently lower clock speeds with worse performance. So, Id recommend staying away from those.
However, they all had 8 mb of L3 cache using Intel smart cache technology. Essentially, it just shared the actual cache memory between all the cores of a multicore CPU. On a related note Haswell was also the first architecture to feature an L4 cache. This was only present on the R variants of a few different CPUs, but goes to show just how advanced the architecture was.
Another feature that made this chip fantastic was the inclusion of Hyper-Threading. This allowed for a single physical processor core to behave like two logical cores by executing multiple software threads simultaneously. This greatly improved multitasking performance, and also CPU intensive tasks that utilzied multiple threads. So even though theres only 4 physical cores, logically it acts like an 8 core.
But, it had competition: AMD's FX series. Now, back in the day I owned a fx 9590 and based on first-hand experience I can say intel had much better offerings. AMD chips, such as the 8350, did offer more quote unquote cores at a lower price point, but the 4790 had better single-threaded performance and overall efficiency. Also AMD got sued over falsely advertising its FX CPUs, so intel was definitely a better choice.
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DO NOT use this product as croutons for a salad...
Don't tell me how to live my life!
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@@PinkyTech😂😂😂😂
well now I wanna do it...
I currently run an i7 4770 with an rtx2060 with 32gb ddr3 and I can confirm that 4th gen still kicks ass.
no botteneck?
@@user-sy5pe6ks2f like 2%
I just ordered a new PSU and a RTX 2060 Super 12GB (yes, that's a thing.) So that will be my build in about a week. The 1050 Ti (best card the stock PSU would support) already punches way above is weight class.
Also upgrading the memory to 32 GB, and replacing the SSD. The one that came with the rig (refurbished Dell Optiplex 9020) sucks- slower than a good HDD.
When I get done, I'll have about $800 into a PC that would cost you twice that at least from one of those custom PC builders. Has all the aesthetics of a concrete block, but who cares? I don't like RGB anyway.
I could spend around $70 for a new triple-fan case and the adapters to put the Dell guts into it, but won't bother unless the new setup has cooling issues. At that point the only thing stock will be the MOBO.
@ostlandr Sounds awesome! It won't disappoint you. I still have my 1050Ti, I installed it in a PC I built for my son, but for some reason Warzone doesn't start. I don't know if it's because of the gpu though.
I run an i3 4th gen with no graphics card and 4gb ram. And I can confirm it kicks my ass
I hope this channel remains reviewing old gaming hardware. There are too many new gaming hardware review channels now and not enough old hardware gaming review channels to see if old hardware can still hold up with modern games. Besides a good sum of people are on a tight budget now given the current economic situation and can only afford to buy old hardware like this, so it helps out a lot .
Totally agree. I am in the middle of another system refurb. Using an i5 4570 as the cpu.
@@computerrefurbishment9748 i just built a system recently based on AMDs AM4. Even going ultra budget for gaming on newer hardware, using a Ryzen 5 5600G, and 16gb of DDR4 3200 ram, it set me back 485 dollars total, that included a B550 mobo, a case and a PSU. Sure i could have built it even cheaper and saved 45 dollars, but i wanted a good PSU. I plan on upgrading to a GPU in 6 months, probably to a Radeon 6650XT, but i didn't want to go over 500 dollars on this build right now. So in the mean time i'll just do some light gaming. My old AMD FX system had to get retired.
It'll stay like this for a long time. If given the option to spend 300 bucks on a new ish budget gpu, or 300 budget on some flagship monstrosity from 2007, I'm choosing the cars from 07. (Plus I'm broke to so don't expect any brand new parts for years)
@@computerrefurbishment9748 I'm still suffering with a i5 4460 😢
@@computerrefurbishment9748 I'm on a i5 4590 and still holds up with everything I throw at it with an RX570 4GB 1080p low/med on most things. Going to pick up a cheap i7 4790 in a couple of days and that will do until I do notice real issues. Entire system with 16GB DDR3 1600, 1TB SSD, 128GB SSD boot drive and a 22" 1080p Dell monitor, £150 (190USD)for the lot.
My main PC still has a 4790K @ 4,4 GHz, that I bought back in 2014 when it was released. I have just upgraded RAM to 32 GB, GPU to a 3070, and replaced HDDs with SSDs. I have never before had a CPU last this long.
3070 with 4790k?u play on 4k?
@@care2023 Yes, 4K whenever possible.
Same here but I buyed recently rtx 4070 ti !
I like the processor too, rebuilt one for the kids and one for another kid going into college. But as far as frame rates go even the 12th gen i3 which is pretty cheap, and you can find motherboards reasonably priced, you should pull 40 more frames a second and what you're currently getting.
But where the difference really shows is also 100% faster on processor between that 12th i3 and the same 4th gen i7.
Such a GPU is a waste with that CPU
Yup, I bought my i7 4790k nine years ago, and still using it to play starfield and baldur's gate 3. Have a big Noturia fan along with 32GB of DDr3 ram. NVME and few SSD to boot. Nvidia RTX 3060 12 GB does all the hard work.
Run the memory at 2400 Mhz cl11 if possible (@1.65V max). You see a noticeable performance improvement over the "typical" 1600 Mhz RAM frequency, today in modern games.
Nocturia lmao
@@Wushu-vikingразница 2 процента
With 1600 ram speed is worth it upgrading from i5 4570 to i7 4790? I have a non oc motherboard?
@@user-qh2gj9nz8z i7 4790 cant oc so yes
I recently bought the i7 4770 for €35 to upgrade from an i3 4th-gen in my HP prodesk, works great. Paired with 32gb ram and sata ssd, the PC is flying
Ur looking good
it is flying.. until you find some frame drops
@@khaledahmad7204remember he upgraded from a i3 4th gen, that i7 4770 is going to be a heaven for our man and certainly he ain't going to play games like starfield with this CPU, (maybe😅)
I used a 4790k for years. I loved it. I used it with a Noctua NH-D14 which cooled it brilliantly. It is so good it now cools my 3900X great. Keep up the good work dude!
That's awesome. And thank you, will do
I still use the 4790 to this day, it's safer than the 6 to 11 generation CPUs, doesn't have the Downfall vulnerability later models have. I don't play games, I design games..
I still run the 4790 system that I built in 2016. If it didn't bottle neck the 3080 that I bought last year so bad, I might still use it daily. It's my own couch steam machine today.
I built a Core i7-4790K system 7 years ago and it's still my daily driver. I have a Core i7-8700K as my gamer now but this 4th Gen just keeps on kickin' it! If it ain't broke - Don't mess with it!
Love this CPU. I still have my previous computer that I built with the 4790K and it's overclocked to 4.6 GHz all cores with decent temps (water cooled with well vented case).
Had no problem running Cyberpunk 2077 for the first seven months paired with an overclocked GTX 1660ti.
Now it's just my spare computer hooked up to my den TV.
Another important benefit of haswell is that they were the 1st generation to support avx 2 instructions unlike the previous gens. This will make this gen age much better in my opinion.
Very nice review though I believe that your planned upgrade to an SSD is really necessary. I briefly used a HDD in a secondary PC that have with an i7 920 @4Ghz and it was a constant bottleneck even when I downloaded simple programs.
Yep for modern games and emulation a great cpu.
I still run an i7 4770.
16 gigs ram
Rx 580
DayZ
Beamng
GTA v
Rdr2
It still does what I need. Pretty robust generation of hardware albeit quite dated.
@@rockandrollemergency 4770 к _4400 _16 gb 2400 .11.13.13 _6800 xt _ 4 k ,I'm not even thinking about changing the processor!
The problem with those cheap ass builds is that they're only viable only if you're really THAT broke. Let's say 4790+lga1155+16gb ddr3 is $100. R5 5500 + cheap B450 + 16gb ddr4 can be had for around $200, will have significantly more performance, more features and longevity on the motherboard side. Roughly speaking 3x performance for 2x price. Also you'll even be able to upgrade to smth like 5600x3d/5800x3d in the feature, making the investment even more worth it. Even in my poor ass country, Russia, $100 can be easily made in one week if you're at least 14, so the argument of "$100 is too much for so many people" just doesn't apply here
did the same upgrade from a 4130 to a 4790 on my main pc. LIFE CHANGING. buying a new gpu today.
Ooh nice. Moving up in the PC hardware world
I've had this cpu literally a few weeks ago, I've upgraded to 11600kf, it's still a pretty capable CPU but I can definitely feel the difference after upgrading! if you want a no non sense gaming CPU it's a solid choice.
Make sure you get the Intel Chipset drivers, I've found that makes a massive performance improvement with an HDD. The default Windows drivers appear to work ok (and don't report any errors in the device mangler) but the performance difference is huge and VERY noticeable.
Didn't even know about that. Thanks, will do
tell me how
Up until last week, I have been using a 4790k, which I had upgraded from a 4790 about four years ago. It has lasted many years for me. It has been almost a decade. Previously, I had an FX-8350. When I switched, I upgraded the motherboard, with one that had a built-in NVME drive. I then got a BlackMagic card, so I could record from the 4790 machine.
I once got a Dell Tower with a i3 4170 cpu and I put in a 4790 cpu and it was thermal throttling. I did a bit of research and Dell put a smaller/weaker fan on the i3 cooler than the i7, they used the same heat sink. I put a bigger/better fan on the heat sink and temps lowered with no more throttling.
Bro we have same system with dell tower with i3 4170 but I am going to buy 4790 , would you recommend me to buy it , please share your opinion.
You didn't ask my opinion if that ship except the motherboard that you have that is a well investment especially if you're getting a more powerful air cooler consider even getting the 4790k I have a Dell 3090 optiplex with a 1660 super I play triple games all the time with a 700 watt PSU Overkill but I didn't want to have any issues if I wanted to upgrade in a future
I have the 4790K, i built my PC in 2014 & i still use it everyday, still runs everything with no issues, never even changed the thermal paste, i plan to build a monster pc next year so this cpu would have lasted me a decade!
IM STILL USING THE 4790k TOO BRO! i need to repaste bc now my temps are getting higher but this thing has ran non stop like a f***ing champion. still runs basically any game i need to, although i dont get 1440p 144fps most of the time (still running a rx 580 4gb and 16gb ddr3). honestly legendary cpu. i dont wanna upgrade till i really need to haha
I had bought a i7 4790k when it was brand new, I remember that it was a big deal when it was released, had played a lot of witcher 3 with this chip. I had a gtx 780 paired with it as well sheesh times have changed. it had ran hot with even a noctua NH-U12S at 4.4ghz all core oc. its still impressive how that locked chip run games now a days!
I have a 4790k on a z97 motherboard running with 32GB of DDR3-2400 cl11 RAM in XMP, and a RTX 4070 video card. It run all my games easily at 4K resolution in High to Max. settings at 60 fps. By example I have almost constant 60 fps in Cyberpunk 2077 with DLSS on Quality Mode. Same constant 60 fps in Far Cry 6 and other games.
Still using my 4790k alongside a more recent 3090. Probably should upgrade but so far it runs new games flawlessly at 60-120fps 4k which is all I need it to do
A 4790k and a 3090? That is a wild combination but you know what.. it kinda makes sense
@@Jaindike At higher resolutions like 4k it's been documented that a pairing like this actually doesn't bottleneck too much. At 1080p or less it'd be noticeable though. Many of the bigger tech channels on YT have talked about it.
Aside from my son's PC which runs modern Ryzen hardware, every PC in my house runs older hardware with SSDs.
My PC - Intel Xeon E5-1650 w/GTX 1060, Daughter PC - i7-4770 w/RX 580, HTPC - i7-4790 w/ GTX 1660 Super.
They all still scream along and serve us well. Love Intel 4th gen.
Im not a gamer that much but I have a i7 4790 paired with 32gb ram and 1080ti doing video editing and vfx and I may say this is still a beast!
Didn't expect it to hold up that well with VFX, nice
mine has been used very thoroughly for 9 years and it still going strong
Nice. As long as it's running cool it's going to last for years to come
It's a great CPU, especially for the price. My 4790k was $30 more than yours but it was worth it for that 4.6GHz overclock they all seem capable of without touching the voltages. I have no regrets bottlenecking my second hand 3070 with it
What cinebench R15 results do you get at 4.6? just curious
In Cinebench R23 I got 4619 stock. Running it at 4.6 brought it up to 5300. Are the scores compatible across Cinebench versions?
I did manage to reach 5600 at an all core of 4.7 but while it would finish Cinebench every time, it would crash in games after about 15 minutes even with a little extra voltage. I don't know enough about OCing to make it stable there so I stuck with 4.6
@@NoName5589 thank ya!
Yup, 4.6GHz all core overclock with decent temps.
My top score on cinebench r23 for multi core is 5538 at overclock of 4.6 all core at 1.3 v for 4790k
Keep building up your rig, getting more solid test results and you'll have tons of subscribers. You present well
Thank you & will do. Glad you enjoyed the video
I just got a hand-me-down machine, i7-4770K, 16 GB dual ddr3-1600. Using a modest 120mm AiO I can oc 4.2 GHz.
Replacing my TV computer with the i7-950. It's a huge improvement!
I paired this with my backup RX 6500XT, and it works fine (the x4 PCIe3.0 card doesn't slow things down...)
I'm curious, is it bottlenecked by the 1st gen i7. I always saw the large core counts and thought that meant performance, but I learned cores aren't everything. Saw that a 1st gen i7 had more cores than a second gen
@@appsaucetech Intel did 4 core 8 thread for generations. i7-920 to i7-7700k were All 4/8.
Small improvements in MHz and tiny IPC gains over years and years.
@@hrayz Really? Now that I look you seem to be correct
3:25 that's enough slices!
Wha?
My 4790k + 2080ti still performs reasonably well these days.
The thermal problems with the Haswell CPU's was mostly due to a cheap thermal paste used inside the IHS and many enthusiasts were actually delidding them and swapping the paste to liquid metal (myself included) which reduced the temps almost 20 degrees.
You definitely don't need to use more thermal paste though, you already used too much.
Mine has the stock air cooler (Dell Optiplex 9020) with an upgraded Noctua fan, and it just doesn't get hot. I just upgraded the processor and very carefully used good thermal paste though.
This problem was corrected by Haswell Refresh, replacing it with a higher quality paste. 4790 and 4690 are Haswell refreshes, like many xeons for socket 1150 (for example, xeon 1241v3)
@@icewater4723 Can't say that's entirely true. My 4690K ran quite hot and replacing the paste with liquid metal brought down the temps by 15 degrees. Everyone was delidding their Haswells back then, refresh or not.
@@Remu- Definitely liquid metal will be better. The first Haswells generally had overheating problems, but the Haswell Refresh was a little better. Intel called the new thermal paste "T.I.M." It was better than on the old Haswells, but this, of course, was marketing and it was far from Artik MX4, not to mention liquid metal.
Thanks for sharing. I have a i7-4770. I've been impressed with my gaming experience. How did Intel lose their lead over AMD? These older quad cores were phenomenal.
While games bottlenecked on a single thread, and Intel has superior single-thread performance, this was true.
AMD at the time had trash architecture and so-so single-thread performance.
Look up what AMD was offering around this time. The FX chips were absolute garbage.
What a big coincidence!! From my various gigs, I'm writing this comment with the one that has this boy inside. Still paired with the old GTX 980 Titan, Asus Z97pro wifi mobo, Samsung 850pro 1T, 32gigs of Geil RAM. Up until now NO problems whatsoever. Had to replace PSU 2 years ago.
My newest setup with a i9-13700k, 64 gigs of RAM, Gigabyte RTX 3080Ti, ROG Strix Z790-A Wifi, 2T Samsung nvme SSD, 1000W Coolermaster PSU altogether didn't even cost half the money than that old one...
Good vid!! Haswell was a massive improvement over Ivy Bridge, not only in core architecture and efficiency but we also got AVX2 instructions, crucial for many modern titles
UA-cam commenter suddenly faced with Name game that uses avx2 challenge can’t answer and deletes account in shame
@@threesixtydegreeorbits2047 ....what?
got mine in a $20 HP 800 SFF rig w/ all new peripherals, threw in 16gb cl9 ram, an ssd, and a sff gtx 1650 (no bottleneck until u go 6600/3060). works great for mid tier gaming. runs windows 11 just fine w/ one registry hack
I run an I7 3770 with a gtx 1060 performance is great it feels better than when I paired an i5 7400 with a gtx 1060 also using a hard drive as main drive for both os and games in 2023/2024 is legend status I respect it but also I recommend getting an ssd
The real budget secret that others in the comments seem to be sleeping on is that the server cpus for this generation are cross compatible on basically all haswell motherboards. For example, the Xeon E3 1271 V3 is equivalent in power to the i7 4790, just with no integrated graphics. I found several on ebay for $25 each shipped. If you want to go even cheaper, a Xeon E3 1241 v3 is 100mhz slower (boosts to 3.9ghz max) and can be found for as low as $17 shipped. If you're going to be using a dedicated GPU anyway, you can't do much better in bang for the buck.
Edit: Additionally, don't go buying the motherboard seperately. Instead, go find yourself a dell or HP prebuilt office PC for the era. Not hard to find power supply + motherboard + ram for ~$30 total. Combine with a RX 550 or RX 570 and you got yourself a decent budget machine for < $100
I actually did buy a near identical server cpu for this setup, will do a video on it. Cheaper and definitely worth the money
I run a pair of E5-2667 v2 (same era, slightly slower top speeds, far bigger Cache) with a GeForce GTC 1070 to this day. Thinking about a GPU upgrade sometime next year, way before I even consider a CPU/Mainboard swap. Excellent CPU generation!
You could've delidded the processor and replaced the thermal paste inside the die, that should get rid of the throttling issue. Older Intel CPU's were known for their thermal paste degredation, which your 4790 surely has since it’s a 9 year old CPU. This is also why delidding became popular with Intel CPU's.
Yep, sometimes higher watts tdp degrates quicker than lower tdp
@@AntiGrieferGames That’s not the point, the point is that your results could’ve shifted differently if you decided to delid the CPU. Speaking from experience, I tried that years ago with my 5 year old 7700K which was throttling like crazy and I just thought maybe it’s reaching its end of life. But it had a second life and was in pristine condition after I delidded, performance was just like out of the factory.
I'll look into that, think it could solve some of issues. Thanks
I still use a i7 4790 with a gtx 970 8gb and 16 gb of ddr3 and it can run beam ng ultra settings with full traffic and it’s a beast
Ive been running my 4790k for years now. I got it back in 2020 for around $60. I have it paired with a 1080ti and 32gb of RAM. Theres a little bit of bottleneck but im able to play games like Cyberpunk, Baldurs Gate 3 and FF7:R with no issues.
man im just upgrading my pc after a very long period using 4790k and let me tell u this proc is a beast and still can eat a lot of new games to this days. long live the king
I would recommend getting Haswell xeons, since they are cheaper yet work on almost all motherboards. I snatched up a Xeon E3 1241 v3 (equivalent of an i7 4770) for only $20. Pair that with 16gb of DDR3 ($15) and an RX580 ($50) and you have the best price to performance ever.
Definitely will check those out, thanks!
My son plays on my old ddr3 machine. 4790 locked with a gtx 1060 6 gig. He's playing starfeild right now. It's a little grainy but it doesn't stutter or anything.
That's not a bad little machine. Fantastic little starter machine
My PC with I7-4790 / 32 GB Ram / SSD Drives and RTX 2070 super plays all Games very well.(Even in 4K 30 FPS)
I had my OG build that lasted forever. i54690k 8GBRam GTX 970 Right when call of duty battle royal came out thats when it tapped out my build. Still have her for media streaming and emulators in the house.
I have had mine for 9 years, mines 4790k hopefully it will still be ok for starfeild either way i got my moneys worth out of this and have overclocked it to 4.6ghz
I update in 2023 to the 4790K 4ghz and overclocked it to 4.4.
I was running the fastest i5 at the time.
The first one I had worked for 2 day unclocked before it black screened, the replacement has been perfect.
NOTE: You can only overclock CPU’s ending with a “K”
A VERY cheap upgrade at £77 delivered.
I have been using the i7 4770k since 2012 and from experience it runs solidly well as long as you stay away from RTS and Space games, basically games that have a lot of stuff happening at the same time. It will perform exceptionally well with AAA titles since they are very polished and very well optimized.
I still run the 4770k with an RTX 4060 and it works well for my needs: BF 2042 + GTA 5 + Single player games
My linux pc is still using an i7 980x extreme cpu. 32gb ram and 2x2tb ssd's. Will run forever. I have a tower case. If your having heat issues you can get a 120mm liquid cooler for cheap like i use.
I really want to check out the 980x at some point. Quite an interesting processor
I have one paired with an RX 5700 XT and it works quite well. It can struggle a little bit on some games though.
I think you would be good if you cap some of those games to 35 fps
That's an awesome budget combo
@@Jaindike thankfully I'll be upgrading to a Ryzen 5 3600 which will definitely help out
I upgraded to a Ryzen 5 5600 😁
I have the same processor, I want to buy an rx 5700 for it, will it be able to load this card?
Biggest computer error I've ever made: changing my 4790 for some i5 6th Gen crap chip.
Yeaah.. sometimes the best selling point of a new generation is just the name
I purchased this cpu back in 2014. (4790K) It was a beast a served me well.
I replaced it with 7950X but it is now running games for my son 😅
You can get 4790 office computers with 16gb ram and an ssd for $100 now. They can play games BUT they are the perfect pc for people who aren't hardcore gamers. (Some people don't play games, I know.. hard to believe.)
Been running this beast since its release. And I am still running the GTX 1060 6GB and 32GB of RAM. It runs all modern games at over 60 FPS...
On the cooler, old HP system motherboards don't use a standard mounting size for the cpu cooler. The G1 Tower has a larger (flat, fan on top) cooler that uses the same mounting. It was proprietary (non ATX) along with the rest of the motherboard. The tower also used a case exhaust fan. You will need to find another board if you want to upgrade cooler and power supply. It also dose not have the options to overclock. Still they were built to run all day for years on end in a business environment. I just retired my HP G1 800 I7 4790 tower last week.
I bet you've just triggered a bunch of Tik Tokers... 🤣 PS - Helped buddy of mine built a budget PC with 4790K with 32GB RAM 1600Mhz 8*4 Kingston, 1T SATA SSD Kingston, 650Watts Cooler Master, Gigabyte Z97X Mobo in a NON-RAINBOW VOMIT generic case, Good vents design tho & a RTX 3060 Ti EVGA XC Gaming... All & all - He spent exactly RM1200 *250ish USD* including a Generic 21.5Inches 70Hz Monitor & a decent keyboard/Mouse/Headset... The PC was cheap including additional upgrades except for the GPU which we got separately at around RM700 *150USD*... I LOVED that project! It was fun & satisfying.. .🍻🍻🍻
I have one 4770, 4770k and 4790k they all run things just fine. I have a few newer machines but three get used every weekend.
4790K here, 32GB and RX 6750XT. Running all games at 1080p and 60fps. This CPU is a BEAST!!!
Right? It still it an awesome CPU
This video is so well made, a huge thumbs up! The production is insane, definitely worth more followers, just subscribed to your channel! Hope the UA-cam algorithm kicks in soon!
Ay I'm glad you liked the video, really appreciate it. More coming soon :)
A Corsair H60 120 mm radiator keeps 4790k at a cool 63c playing Starfield at an average usage 65% playing at 4k at 40 fps with high settings. If anyone is interested
Im still running my 2014 I7 5960x . Its still going strong 9 years later. My main gaming system has a 5800x3d . The 5960x is in my livingroom PC where i game at 1080p on my TV set with my steam controller.
Same processor here and the best solution the overheating or thermal throttling is to delid and replace the hardened TIM similar to normal thermal paste (not STIM). you can use any thermal paste or branded thermal paste, but as for me, I used liquid metal and added the IHS back.
Test: ambient temp is 30C | Snowman MT6S dual fan 6 heatpipe tower
Before delid: idle around 45C to 50C | Premiere pro, Prime 95, Cinebech R23 will go beyond 100C quickly
After Delid: idle 35C | Premiere Pro and Cinebench R23 - 65C | Prime 95 - 75C
50C is normal temperature
@@Steve-mp7by not in idle
My i7 4770 rig is blushing now, i think it likes your videos
Lol
I ran a i7-7700k for about 5 years was a great chip
Nice. I'd love to do a video on 7th gen intel but they are still a bit expensive
I will always have fond memories of 4790. As a teen i struggled with money like most teens nowadays so i could never afford a good pc. When i got my first job, i saved money for new PC and i7 4790k came out at that time. I bought it brand spanking new and it was like a milestone to me. It felt like owning a spaceship compared to all the PCs i had before it. Glad to see it still kicking.
yeah but did you know it's technically a steam dec cpu in a nutshell true fact it can match a steam deck for cpu performance🤣🤣🤣
$40???? back then this CPU was over $250 but now? oh my gawd I feel old now
Lol. I feel the same way about the fx 8350
i did buy it 4 years back for 160e. still runs everything in my old pc.
Ay it's still a great processor!
The 4790K is hard to find today. Sometimes You an get one used for $100. Chinese sellers have used for $50-$80. Real vendors still think they are cutting edge and ask $300-$400! I suppose they bet on professional customers needing a replacement? You can't upgrade to Win11 with an i7 according to Microsoft, so strange how they are so popular still. My home PC has a non K i7 and I use it for rendering and other heavy stuff. Absolutely no complaints about performance still.
I built my kids the i5 4730k new back in the day. They were very little and are still playing with it today. I paired it with an old 980 ti and seems to be a good fit for their uses. I have considered upgrading it to the 4790k but I am not sure the hyperthreading is really worth it. I personally have a 4930k and with a 1080 ti it still runs games fine for me. I am finally considering upgrading (no avx2), I have gotten into emulation and there are a few emulators that I need more cpu. My old PS3 and Xbox 360 have died on me finally.
Im still using my i7 4790k with a gtx 1650 super works great
I think i7 Haswell would still have some punch for years to come.
Yes it's nearly obsolete and almost irrelevant for the latest GPUs but if you see it from price stand point i think you could build a maximum spec PC with minimum budget.
If you think 4th gen Core i7 is cheap enough then try to look for its closest siblings: Xeon.
For certain model the pricing is ridiculously low that would make the price - performance factor even better.
For example: i managed to grab a Xeon E3 1265L v3 from Aliexpress for USD 25; FYI, this particular Xeon is similar to i 4770T 45W tdp that priced around 50 USD in Indonesian market.
DDR3 modules are also dirt cheap, 30-35 USD for total 32GB.
Pair those Xeon, DDR3 with office PC such as HP ProDesk 600/800 G1 and you'll have a decent platform that could handle upto 160W graphics card (undervolted gtx1070 or rtx2060-3060) using original 320W psu. Nice.
My recent build (Xeon 4C/8T + DDR3 32GB + ssd + HP ProDesk + RTX 2060) only cost me USD 225; all grabbed in 2nd-hand market.
In my opinion, Haswell is still a strong contender for low budget powerful system because of its great availability in cheap parts.
Though some games you will also get a considerable amount of stuttering too depending on what you play and some games are asking for better CPU as min requirement...
Anyway last year still under the pandemic I bought a Asus Sabertooth Z77 + I7 3770K + 2x8 GB DDR3 + Nvidia GT730 for 150€ which for Europe was a nice price since just the CPU was around 100€ but it's not like the PC was worth much at all other than the motherboard which I love the old Sabertooth...
I used an i5 4590 until June of last year. It did okay but was clearly struggling, especially with CPU intensive games.
Hmm, kinda surprising. The 4130 I used to use with this was still capable..ish..kinda
A couple years ago, I upgraded my system to a Dell Optiplex 7020, which seems to be the standard for el cheapo builds. It and a GTX 970 runs pretty much everything I need in spite of their age, and that includes the emulation of systems like the Playstation 2 and GameCube.
i ran the i7-4790 for a long time i loved it i paired it with a FE GTX980 and it slayed so many games its still a very good option, but for near the same money you can get an HPz440 and slowly upgrade it for dollars and you will have a very nice rig, my current rig is a HP z440 with a E5-2699v3 which is equal to a i7-10700 and the cpu costed me 43$ the desktop was 80$ i bought a ram kit a 16x4 64gb kit at 2133mhz for 60$ and i tossed in a 2080ti and i can play anything on ultra 1440p with over 100 fps in most titles, but the best part about the z440 is its upgrade path is enormous you can go up to v4 xeons and get 2400mhz ram and make it a tank! Great vid would love to see more!
Your computer build sounds awesome, may have to steal that idea.. And glad you liked the video!
one man's trash is others gold. I still play on a core 2 quad e8200 8gb and gt640. Saw an opportunity and bought a hp elite800 i74790 16gb ram and will pair it with a rx580. i believe i will use this sysyem for another 5 years at least since i only buy games not very hardware demanding or heavy games but 3 or more years old and on sale
You got this low budget gaming down to a science. Fantastic system, and the 4790 is still a beast
4790 was my first processor. Swapped for a 4790K in 2020. My gpu progression has been GTX 950, 970, 1080 and today I bought a RTX 4070 for $400. I really do not want to get rid of my devils canyon cpu😅. We’ll see how bad these bottlenecks are, but helldivers runs great at max settings 1440p so far.
I absolutely loved my build. I had 4670k, then switched to 4790k with a Sabertooth Z87 and a Gtx 1070 Ti OC from Zotac. It can still run most of the games but some more recent games will have lot of stuttering, especially free roaming games. I upgraded recently to ryzen 7700 and an Rtx 4070 from Palit. No need to say stuttering is completely gone.
I was bought 2nd Dell 7020 SFF with 4690 16Gb Ram, 256Gb SSD+ 1Tb HDD baracuda(cost around 240$ in 2018) , then equipped with RX550 GPU. now I plan to upgrade with 4790 with RX5500. I hv ordered them (38$ for Proc , 110$ for GPU, 35$ PSU) n waiting to delivered. total upgrade cost about 183$
Fun video . Yes the SSD drive will make a Huge difference unless the ide control is borked. My sis has a Toshiba Laptop with a i3 5th gen that she thought was dead. The boot up was taking almost 15 minutes everything was running super slow. I did two upgrades boosted it form 6gb of ram to 16gb 8x2 and cloned her toshiba hdd to a Western Digital 500GB SSD. Her Laptop boot up time went to less than a minute and everything was running almost 70% faster 👍👍It is amazing what a system booster SSD are to a system of any age if you can get them to work.
I did a similar thing with the Mrs' old laptop from 2012 that was looking like finished.
It was crawling along on Win 7 with 4GB and a slow fragmented mechanical drive.
Now it's got 16GB and a Samsung Evo SSD. Runs Win 10 like a dream!
Parts were pretty cheap too.
Still running i7-4790 with RTX 2060 and 16gb ram. Use it for streaming and recording tripple A games. There are some stutters sometimes but just for a milisecond when I record but still. This MOFO is kicking asss
Ayy that's awesome. It really has held up well
I know right? hahaha I will only replace this only if I really need more cores but now it still cover my needs. The only problem is that it's hot so I bought a lasger cpu fan but all in all it's great.@@Jaindike
I've got a 4790k and still going strong. And I'm not planning on upgrading anytime soon.
Damn, I am using I3-4160 😂 not gaming, just youtube fb web surfing and run very fast as hell, making money every day, just need upgrade ram and SSD drive
Don’t get me wrong, this is definitely a great cpu. I feel like the real cost of everything would come from trying to find a mobo and compatible RAM. I don’t know this for sure, but I feel like it would be an issue.
I'd have to argue against that. At least in the US motherboards are easy to find on ebay. As for ram, any non ecc ddr3 should work. Ive never reall had compatibility issues with ram before
@@Jaindike That's great to know. I'm glad this budget beast is still going strong.
Still using 4790k in my second system.
This CPU is a LEGEND!
I delidded my 4790k and applied some thermal paste inside the IHS and it dropped up to 20 degrees C from peak! Thats running it overclocked at 4.8Ghz as well.
Running the Bench option in CPU-Z, i get 535 points single thread, 2700 points in multi thread. For comparisons sake, my laptop with a 12th Gen i7-1265u gets 668/4560 points respectively.
IF you can find a compatible motherboard and compatible ram, YES. I built a system in 2016 or something using this CPU, and i still got it. Still the same pc since 2012. It's quite a tank of a cpu.
I just did a build with the 4790 $25 well spent. Did a BLCK over clock up to 4.2Ghz and while it has limitations for sure in $400 builds its great. Sad to see the hate on AMD we still have a 4.8Ghz fx8350 that's going strong such a good value cpu in its day.
That's because even the fx 8350 is way slower than the 4790. They might have been decent at the time but they aged super fast.
@shawnd567 True although I remember when they released the 8350 was about the same price as a locked i5. Price and performance wise I always compared FX to the i5 cpus never the i7. These days the FX seems to do fine with a 4.8 bus over clock. It's a young kids system rocking my old R9 fury. Wouldn't do any builds to sell with FX any more with first gen ryzen stuff being so cheap.
nice video. turn auto focus off when shooting the b roll.. it will be less jarring.
Thanks. And yeah, realized that after posting
Just bought some 2800Mhz memory for my 4790k. Still going strong!
Still use my 4790K after 9 years in my gaming setup. Overclocked it for the first time yesterday @4.6 GHz.
Mit Board, Speicher und Wasserkühlung habe ich noch einen 4790k im Schrank liegen und der war damals saugut.
Well,my PC at home is i7-6700k with a upgraded RTX3060TI(former is GTX970),NOW play all 3A games well on 1080P resolution..
Currently watching this on a i5 4570 pc, runs everything fine.
I got a whole pc with one of those and a mini itx case / mini itx mobo 16gb ram and a 250gb Samsung evo for $50 on market place and threw my 6600 8gb with it
I have an old 4790k system that was built with a mid range mobo. I can't even find a replacement mobo with similar specs, much less any improvement. Fast overclocking memory is hard to find, and almost always grossly expensive. If all you want is a basic 4790k system, it can be cheap, but value goes way out the window of you want premium mobo or memory.
im still using my i7 3770k sadly my motherboard cant support overclocking which is its stock boost clock into 3.8mhz i paired it on rx 580 8gb 2304sp clocked by 1400mhz core and 2100mhz mem its still great in 2024 seeing the fastest 3rdgen intel is great old gen must be still having videos like this because of budget or just great deal on build
these old i7 processors (4th gen and above) offer great value for the price however keep in mind that there are a lot of poorly optimized games released recently that will run poorly even on high-end hardware
Great value? You can buy used ryzen 5 3600 for like $50 and its twice as powerful at least.
@@tottorookokkoroo5318 you can also get a full-fledged pc with a core i7 for 40 bucks, prices are different outside of the states a ryzen 5 3600 cost more than 40 bucks elsewhere
@@tottorookokkoroo5318$50 with a risk of a few bent pin? Yeah no. Buying used old amd is kinda risky, and 3600 is like $60-65 idk where that $50 comes from.
@@tottorookokkoroo5318 Absolutely true, but in some places, the price of AM4 boards are absolutely bonkers.
@@tottorookokkoroo5318 ryzen5 3600 $50????????.... 🤣🤣 😂😂
That CPU is from the era were Intel was ising toothpaste as thermal transfer compound to the IHS. I had a 4790K and after deliding and replacing in 2020 temps dropped 20 degrees.
OMG, for the love of Todd Howard, get an SSD for your OS disk ;_; Great video ;)
It just came in :) will be in the next video
This i7-4790 is just a slight thermal/power improved version of the i7-4770 (with +100 Mhz turbo). Architecture/IPC is identical. So yeah, the Haswell i7 cpu can celebrate a 10 year anniversary now. Well here it becomes interesting... Memory speed gets this decade old Haswell CPU to perform on par with the Skylake (6-10 gen) clock for clock. The i7-4790K paired with DDR3-2400 performs about similar to the i7-7700K with DDR4-2400, @same frequency. Very few know about this, and assumes the DDR4 Skylake performs better, because they saw benchmarks with Haswell @1600 MHz (stock)RAM vs Skylake @2400-3000 MHz RAM. Skylake can perform better, if using DDR4-3000. It scales pretty good with RAM all the way up to around that.
My 4790 dead after 8 years of services. So recently I brought new part (not latest) just to get warranty. A new R5 3600 $75, 16GB x2 3200MHz Corsair RAM kit $60, Asrock B550M Pro 4 $80
Total $215 including TAX (converted from MYR). All part are new and I definitely feel the responsive and tasking increase by alot compare to my previous system
solid budget parts in your new build !!! i somehow got almost the same :D
this year i replaced my Haswell Xeon1231v3 after 8 years ;-) with:
Asrock Steel Legend b550m - 120€ new
2x32GB Corsair 3200 - 150€ new
5700G 140€ used
First i went for the 5800x (170€ used). but the idle power draw and also pwoer draw under load was unsustainable. After research i found out its the ciplet design which always add 20 watts on top. so i sold the 5800x again and got the monolithic 5700G, which is amazingly power efficient. Idle 5w vs 27w. Gaming 45w vs 80w. Reason is my PC runs 15h a day due to home office and 90% of the time on like 10% load. only.
additionally i can connect my monitors to my mainboard and my 1080 TI goes full idle while working. The board and windows 10 or 11 suppor hybrid graphics, such that when u run games, they get still rendered by the GPU, despite the displays are connected to the mainboard. amazing.... Stuff like libre office and microsoft teams often had send my 1080TI in 3D mode in mutli monitor setup, so it consumed 70watts instead of the 13-20w it was supposed to draw in desktop usage. The 5700G just consumes like 15 watts for CPU + GPU office tasks together