Manchester City 'surprised' after being charged by Premier League for alleged financial breaches
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Manchester City say they are "surprised" to have been charged by the Premier League with numerous alleged breaches of financial rules.
The alleged breaches span a period from the 2009-10 season to the 2017-18 campaign.
The club are alleged to have breached league rules requiring provision "in utmost good faith" of "accurate financial information that gives a true and fair view of the club's financial position"
Kaveh Solhekol, Kieran Maguire and Vinny O'Connor joined Sky Sports News to discuss this developing story
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i think what they really mean is that they were surprised that they got caught after cheating the system for 10 years
😂😂😭👏🏼👏🏼
Everyone knew they were cheating for years, so you are telling me City, which have 1/4th the fans of Real Madrid, and haven’t gone that far compared to Real Madrid in the UCL ( RM won so they got by far much more than them probably 20-30 million more ) somehow and someway managed to make more than Real Madrid last year? How’s that even possible
@@SS-up5sc They outright gave away tickets to home games for free to ‘boost’ up those attendance numbers, ya know so its more convincing for things such as that.
I think Pep is being paid twice similarly
Not 10 but 15 years
It's unfortunate to see clubs like juventus FC getting harsh punishment in Europe, but when it comes to English clubs, nothing is being done .
The investigation is still going. When they get a verdict if City is guilty they will be relegated along with huge money fines.
Apart from the 4 year-long investigation by the premier league?
Juve absolutely deserved that punishment, they were artificially inflating transfer fees to boost capital gains, your just a PL hater
What are you talking about? They’re literally getting investigated and have been for years, and if it concludes fraud and deceit then the ramifications and punishment will be HUGE
Juve deserve the punishment. There is nothing unfortunate about it!
If it weren’t for English football, Juve would not have a kit to play in so probably wouldn’t even exist! Juve play in black and white because they they were given kits by Notts county 🤦🏻♂️
Don’t you worry about English football, we invented it so be thankful we let you play it! 🤣😂🤣
If they are found guilty, the fact that they lie and act like they did nothing should give them an even harsher punishment
Shut up you clown
You think city are the only club messing around in the back?
@@a.demifemiflapo5795 deluded they all do it
@@russell6075 yeah of course they all do . But not to this extent. City are a cheat and should be ashamed
@@russell6075 Newcastle don't - Newcastle won't. All because of the jealous eyes are purely focused on them and what the future will entail for them. You have to give credit to the Newcastle Owners as they haven't gone doo-lally with the lolly! - They're patiently waiting to the end of the season for a double bubble: New Main Sponsor and New Kit Provider (as the current one has struggled to be honest)
This Rui Pinto guy is getting shivers probably everytime they say his name publicly😭💔
Every Portuguese’s name is Pinto so not sure he’s getting shivers
bet he got a big smile
Not sure about that. Here in Portugal, hes under investigation for precisely those emails. In europe they want to collaborate with him to find the responsibles for what he undercover .. Germans, French now the English it seems. Here in Portugal they prefer to silence him in a never endind trials. Curious ....
Knowing that, dont know if he gets shivers ....
Lol why would a Hacker give his real name
He knew the club was English so he figured it wouldn't matter
When they get relegated lets see the loyalty of the players, Pep and real fans.
they have the 30k real fans who cried as they relegated to First Division early 00s lol
Can’t wait! 🎉
Real madrid aiming at haaland
will sadly never happen
@@mdjufri5074 Chelsea actually
as much as satisfying it is to know that FA do investigate these shady clubs, deep down we all know nothing will actually come of it. Cheaters will get away and pockets will be filled.
If a club gets away with anything at all, then how do you KNOW that they were even guilty of anything in the first place?
I agree they got enough money to cheat their way out thats why they don’t care
Facts City will line some pockets and they will get a miniscule points deduction or a fine.
@@donaghgalvin6565 It's exactly the same breaches that UEFA tried and failed to punish Man City over. I don't see how the PL are going to succeed where UEFA failed.
i wont be watching the English game anymore if they are not relegated. Rangers and other teams have been punished
Relegate them to League 1 - Cheaters; fine them 500 million and use it to develop football across the other leagues , promote an extra team from the championship
agreed. The money should be put towards the smaller clubs and help improve their game and resources!
That sounds like a fair settlement, but I doubt we’ll see anything like this..
Man United the same then
Donate that 5 billion to Reverend Dvon building fund
🤣so desperate. City live rent free in your head
Ready for the same old cycle?
> Break Rules
> Appeal
> Win Appeal
> Escape Real Punishment
> Get a small fine
Repeat ad infinitum
"One rule for thee, another for Man City."
Klopp spoke about it but no one listened
Because everyone was aware. How can a club with no fans generate the revenues their spending? Klopp was being klopp and stating the obvious then fools like you laud him a genius for doing so.
Much like his team as they dont listen to him either.
@@robertmclellan3658 🥲
@@robertmclellan3658 lol...clown.... good one:)
To be fair klopp talks about a lot the weather ,TV times, witches and teams defending well against them
Not being funny but when we broke it (Sheffield Wednesday) we had the book thrown at us ,but it's Man City so it's ok they will get away with it
So Did Birmingham, Derby, Bury and many others. These EPL clubs have cheated for years.
"One rule for thee, another for Man City."
Because true historical big clubs like Sheffield Wednesday are not big super league clubs that generate money for the Prem, that’s how it is now
@@hudson7354 I only feel bad for bury. Derby and Birmingham are both scum
Regardless this time round City are trapped and can't escape or be slippery on this one!
Imagine being relegated because you couldn’t spend that extra 5 million for a player that would make you better while Man City don’t play by the same rules for 10 years, protect the little guy
Bro, spurs didn't even wanna spend 5 mil extra to get a player. 😂 NGL frfr help the little guy.
@@rrre-VA imagine being a trophy cleaner at Spurs, theres literally nothing to do protect the lil uns
@@pedropierre9594 😂😂😂
That's pretty hard to imagine ngl 😂
I don't think you understand what the initial ffp was for . It's to prevent owners from leveraging high debt on a club that's unsustainable and caused administration . Owners were buying championship clubs, just spending money as a gamble to get into the epl and if they fail then they leave and the club is in financial ruin . Ffp isn't really there to stop owners from just pumping their own money in if it's not going to damage the club
"One rule for thee, another for Man City."
I don't know about you guys but seeing City as a midtable team just like the good ol days of pre-oil money of 2009 is actually exciting. This is the true City that I know.
I remember United getting relegated .... all clubs have better times than others.
City were getting 30,000 average crowds in the old third division ... can YOU remember that???
Pfff. I remember seeing Man City in the Championship. Wouldn't mind if they stayed there for a decade or two
Is that the same City who beat debt ridden Manu home and away the season before the take over?
You must be non-football fan. Just stick to cartoon, then.
Deffo a united fan
If all this turns out to be true then they should get a harsher punishment for denying it for so long, and the amount of rules they broke. Relegate them or take points off
Straight relegation would be great. With immediate effect. No more games played for them in whatever season the ruling comes out. Send em to the National League, which doesn't allow teams to have foreign players & make them play British players only. I know it'll never happen, but a man can dream lol.
how many points is fair?
Man City with some serious Nadhim Zahiwi vibes.
Erm Zahawi admitted it and paid a fine City have refuted this when UEFA came and are doing so now. Theres no proof the documents are real and I wouldn't put it past the Spanish FA to doctor such documents for example or any jealous fans or clubs. The PL have no chance here without absolute proof of taking any actions and if they do City will join Juve, Madrid and Barca in a super league which is the last thing ppl want as other clubs will join them.
@Vhero-Betrayze city were already in on for super league lol
@@vherostar super league will NEVER HAPPEN
UK 🇬🇧 fans are WILD they would rather set fire to all their stadiums
@@vherostar you need to get your head checked,
@@vherostar the premier league will still continue to generate substantial income without man City in it!
Should be a separate punishment for each and every breach
These crimes mean other clubs and SUPPORTERS have lost out winning trophies and top 4/revenue. Disgusting.
Financial charges don't apply to a club owned by billionaires, lets have some point deductions as part of it ;)
Yes and help arsenal more
The timing of this is funny
Man city will spend 100 M just to pay 2M fines
Only thing Pl can achieve is some fine, if they do this point deduction thing prepare for years of litigation and court room drama, city has no shortage of top lawyers
@@Mr99RAT should be given 10 points off each season because they cheated against liverpool 3 times
I wont be surprised if arteta testifying for this..
Derby county got something like 27 points deduction. This is far worse. Needs to be a 50 point deduction. Absolutely no less. That hacker also went to prison!! For showing their corruption
Crazy how he can go to prison yet 🤔 they can still report it on the news and absolutely nothing will be done about it
Hacking is still a crime yknow it's not surprising the hacker went for prison for committing a crime lol
@@adaptablezel7336 i wonder why the FA have hid this.. they are just as guilty. disgusting body needs to be revamped with honesty
@@adaptablezel7336 kinda missed the point 🤦🏻♂️
Liverpool might have a claim from the season where they lost by one point
No, that season (18/19), isnt in question but 13/14 when they missed out by 2pts is
Scousers trying to steal things again.
True but what's done is done for that year. What would make everyone happy. Starting next season relegate them to League 2. Make them climb their way up all the way from the bottom pits of hell. Especially since they were indignant about it.
Is that Klopp crying again ??
@@pcolesen278 only one crying here is you by the looks of it
Such a sad time for City. Our thoughts are with all the 3 City fans in this tough time
At last count there were 24 of them
@@rajeevpalthukral764 they probably paid them to be their fans
Well said
EPL - "You have to give Jack Grealish back."
- City - "no worries"
PL have stated they can’t appeal this
Are you sure?
Because of premier league rules, City are only allowed to appeal to an independent investigater. The independent panel is chosen by the Premier League chairman.
Trolling aside, as a Man City fan, the logic I have been using is the same logic Pep used. These allegations are heartbreaking. I think we may be relegated but that is a fair punishment if these allegations are true. Will be interesting to see how many plastic fans fall off
nothing will happen dw, if there is any pu ish ment other than a fine it will be appealed that will take even longer and by the end with all the best lawyers and a lot of money, the charges will be dropped
No chance city gets relegated. I would be surprised if they are actually docked points
Nothing will happen bro it's just us always attacked other clubs break ffp breaches
Other clubs breach the rules teams that actually don't win, football heirachy are scared of city for some reason, relegation would be to harsh, most is point deduction but they better look at Chelsea next though
I'm fuming. Manchester was NEVER blue.
Man City Spokesman: After the amount of money we have paid out in bungs, we are very surprised by these allegations.
@Worldwide Remix don't be rude ,
Everybody knows in their heart , that even if City is guilty nothing will happen to the club , money is the god in the world and Man City have super rich owners , the best lawyers money can buy , humans + lots of money = corruption .
Disagree, the PL have to save face because of what Serie A did with Juve. Man City will, in my opinion, get like a 30 pt point reduction in the league and also will be handed numerous fines, certain executives will have their FIFA licenses either terminated or suspended. The PL wasn’t bullshitting the fact that they looked into this for 4 years and dropped it now shows that they found something. They wouldn’t have said anything if they didn’t find a smoking gun.
This is the English FA they’re historically strict when it comes to FFP the amount of clubs that have gotten point reductions are in the dozens.
They need to be stripped of titles and given to runner ups. Watford for example deserves a FA cup.
@@finding_aether lmao
No amount of brown envelopes won't wipe out all 100 breaches! Maybe 75 but certainly punishment is in the pipeline!
They must be the only ones shocked we all knew this was going on Lol😂
Class
For a team that has a "higher" income then Man Utd but has no fans is suspicious enough
Man city was fined 3 times in peps first year for doping I think they need to be looking into that aswell
A one point deduction for every rule broken
So that's over 100 points deducted
and the silverware during the years they cheated
They’ll be battling wrexham for the title at this rate😂
They will be relegated to Non league
@@pauljones8218 Yes, revoke their cheated victories and trophies.
Look at what rangers suffered in Scotland
They was demoted the the lowest league and had to fight there way back
5 million fine + 2 week transfer embargo incoming
Get rid! No time for cheaters in any sport.
Many teams came second, 3rd, 4th while maintaining to the rules and suffered for it.
This is the first time in the prem history this has happened 😂😂
Apart from Man City and Chelsea no other clubs cheat like you lot have.
Liverpools net spend is very low!!
Man Utd generates legal money
Man City are nobodies in terms of income revenue.
You supporter cheaters pal and your argument is pathetic 😂😂
@Man City Recap imagine supporting a club where all of your success is rooted from lies
@man city what does that even mean?? Haha. “Believe what I don’t know” speaking in riddles here haha
Man Utd, arsenal, Liverpool etc have had decades of building fan bases world wide, decades of winning etc.
Man City came in and started spending more money than any of them while having no big income revenue…. It’s not rocket science pal, you boys are cheaters haha.
And if you can see that then no one can help you
@Man City Recap start supporting Newcastle 😂😂😂 synthetic fan🥴
@MCR98 Liverpool
For once, Kaveh gave me some real information. Kudos
Yes. 4 titles for Liverpool and 3 for Man Utd.
@@lifeinslo-mo595 It's actually just 1 title for Liverpool (Brendan Rodgers) and two for United (SAF, Mourinho). As the investigation is being broken up from 2009-2018 and a further investigation will take place for 2019 to some future date. Even still the rules state that the points deduction will be in the current season of them being found guilty. So next season City could be facing a 10 point deduction for every single year of the breaches. We are talking about a potential 90 point deduction all at once. Meaning that City will play a swan song season before being relegated.
so city keep their titles but are hanging out in the championship lol
As a Chelsea fan, I'm glad he stated multiple reasons why were able to spend as much as we have, for example, 2 windows banned and nothing spent and also a lot of player sales including academy players who cost nothing and were pure profit and also the whole point of longer contracts being able to amortize the transfer fee onto the duration of said player.
It’s 102 offences across 14 seasons
Man city with the suprise Pikachu face after getting caught is probably the funniest thing this year 🤣
give the titles to Manchester United, Solskjaer deserve one since he got them 2nd when City got 1st
Are u mad? What about Mourihno!?
2018 table results
1 Man City 98
2 Liverpool 97
If found guilty are they stripping them of the title?
This is unacceptable.. Wow, 50 times. They should be severely punished
They should be relegated to non-league football.
If the premier league is so concerned with spending why don't they have their own financial auditing team for every club in the league, I mean they make the rules for the league, so they can do whatever they feel like, I don't get it.
This is what I also think, I really don't get it
@@faizalamirbashiira4565 My only guess is they might be corrupt too, wherever there is money especially large amounts corruption follows, don't paint any governing body above it, Premier League, Uefa, the whole lot of them.
so much easier to bribe a person than an actual association
@@zochhuana3612 One person wouldn't be responsible for the financial auditing though, and I'm sure there are ways to prevent or deter bribing, what if there are multiple auditing teams that go around checking the clubs books, you think you can bribe them all without it getting out or without there being some kind of internal conflict.
@@mathrockmaniac7643 Well this hacker made a mockery of the prem by releasing those leaks, I think this is them targeting one club to flex their powers that they are the bosses and why not City with the richest owners so some of them could fill their pockets again and they could get off with a fine. Alternatively, they doing this legitimately and using City as an example to other clubs that no one is safe - which is what i'm leaning to, 100 charges is no joke.
Give us and United our titles we deserve.
Good man!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 yeah buddy
Technically past titles can be revokated and re-assigned if the years in which they were won are under investigation (And are found guilty). Apparently, the season where Liverpool lost by one point is not under investigation.
@@abdullahjavaid6695 No not yet but 13/14 is. The seasons after 17/18 are being investigated next.
@@andrewsarabia3486 Oh yeah I forgotted about 13/14. Imagine City getting relegated just for Newcastle to take their place 😅
FFP is all about protecting established big clubs from competition.
This logic is more obsolete than gas turbine
@@jpstyle2k What's wrong with the logic? If you are a small business trying to compete with a large one, one of the ways of doing that is by investing a lot of money. At the end of the day, you can only be successful if you allocate your resources efficiently. Otherwise, you will have to reduce your spending over time - a business has to be profitable.
FFP is a shield for owners of big clubs. They keep making a lot of money even though their costs are low. In other words, the profit margin is bigger when you have the FFP protecting you from competition.
I'm pretty sure that if a proper investigation is done, we will find out that Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Manchester United, Arsenal (I'm an Arsenal fan), etc were behind FFP. The goal being to make sure that they don't have to compete with more potential ambitious clubs like Man City.
True
This many breaches surely means a big punishment - can’t just be this season
punishment happen this season. the investigation has already been going on for 5 years...
ManU & Arsenal then..for the title...
but Arsenal as usual didn't prepare well enough
ManU Hav Weghorst....real plan B
but at least as a Gooner, I know for Sure, the 1 thing they won't breach...is FFP...
I shouldn't be sad....
Dock 15pts from City
like they did Juventus...
& Haaland & Co can still get [Hopefully NOT!!] 6bk from Arsenal
& a good bunch from other teams....still...sigh
@@zodsinclair8500 15 point deduction would be just a tap in the wrist. They have being manipulating the system for 10 years.
If they are to be found guilty the club would certainly descent to the Championship.
@@zodsinclair8500 yes it would be us fighting for a league title
They have been winning epl for ages now, this must be severely punished
Surprised that they couldn’t ‘influence’ the PL as they did UEFA and CAS. Should be interesting who this ‘independent’ board will be and when they will report. Let’s hope it not four years.
What about Chelsea? They were buying all the top talents during Abramovich's time and now this £500m transfer nonsense.
What’s interesting is I reckon the board thought that if they got out of the woods on this then they’d be fine moving forward. They seem to have moved to a more sustainable transfer policy in the market in the last couple of seasons, i.e. selling Sterling, Jesus, Ferran Torres for £50m+ and their net spend has been far more controlled than previously. Hilarious though because there’s no way they haven’t shattered FFP in the last decade. Problem is that as much as the PL/UEFA talk the talk about bans etc, they don’t want to do it at all. They know that whether it’s Man City/Man United/Real Madrid etc, they need these teams to be competing in order to keep fans entertained and the money coming in…
FFP was brought in to stop teams spending beyond their means, not, as the Sky reporter misinformed us, to buy success. The G14 group of clubs got their hands on it and forced Uefa to bring this "only spend what you earn" nonsense in. That keeps their snouts firmly in the trough. They are the real cheats. How can it possibly be wrong for an owner to invest whatever he wants into his own company? Ridiculous.
I acknowledge your wise words but this time round man City are trapped and the only way out is to admit to the crimes whether its 50 or 100 of them!
This is not about their transfer business or net spend. This is about bogus sponsorship deals and illegal contracts, off the book payments. If you're doing this you're cooking the books, regardless of what you are spending on transfers. Transfers are just one area of income/expenditure of football clubs, this is what you people fail to understand. Nobody is contesting their transfer activity in itself.
@@oldskoolmusicnostalgiaagreed and I understand it’s not that simple, my point is that they’re clearly moving towards a more sustainable model as a club. But yeah the inflated sponsorship deals etc we’re always gonna catch up with them somehow, similar to what happened with Juve.
My only surprise is that it's taken so long. If found guilty, any punishment has to look backward to the time when they were cheating. You can't allow trophies or honours to stand just because cheating was discovered or proven years after the fact.
Lol this is a sham. If it weren't for Man City's spending, La Liga would still be reigning supreme.
@@mikejones9906 How arent they reigning supreme? Real Madrid always dominates Europe. That is the funniest part, City cant even compete with them by cheating
Watch them do exactly that. The prem is feckless.
@@mmanu6126as there league is nowhere the level as the prem , madrid play a couple of hard a games a season where as every game in the prem is hard
@@mmanu6126 Being financed by your own government and secret TV deals is somehow not cheating in your book? FFP is all about one thing only: maintaining the status quo and preventing newcomers from enjoying success. The altruistic narrative behind it is nothing more than a disingenuous cover story that fans of the old money elite clubs are only too happy to believe.
Strip the title and point deduction this year. No use fine them, money is not a issue for them
And take points of last 10 years can't cheat to win titles
If the evidence was illegally found then it’s impossible to know how that plays out
These charges were already proven wrong by CAS...
'Surprised' Did they think they had paid everybody off already?
Deals are in the pipeline 😂😂😂
The league is listing over 100 breaches and still everyone expects Manchester City to get away with it shows everything that you need to know about football. There is no financial fairplay, there is no fair competition and it shows when most likely not even the league itself can do anything about it.
Does this mean that Jose Mourinho's Manchester was 1st I stead of 2nd during his reign?
I love how the Italian league is seen as corrupt where as the premier league is way more corrupt and yet nothing is ever done let's be real if the hacker hadn't published the information to a German newspaper would we even be speaking about it.
Is that hacker still in prison? Hardly a witness of good character is he?
I have to be honest, even as a City fan I thought it was good to be true and that we were moving at an unusually fast pace in terms of developing as a club/brand as a whole.
On the pitch you went backwards.
I thought it was dead Sus how you got up to 10 fans so quickly.
the fall of city and liverpool. arsenal really having all the luck this season
Still 18 games to go, Arsenal are the masters at fumbling the bag 🤣
No real achievement even if Arsenal win it. It'll be only because everyone else has been awful
arsenal are deserved winners , dont take that from them.
@@VR46314 hopefully 🙏
so if it wasn't for the hacker, we wouldn't have heard about it ?
Unreal.
Surprised? there is no statute of limitations... i hope they drop to league 2 where they belong -- I am an Arsenal fan by the way
Take 10 points off each season they cheated for so last 10 years
@@sohan8933 relegate them and take 10 points off each season for for 10 years
If they are successful by cheating then the punishment should be extremely harsh and actually hurt Man City. Glasgow Rangers anyone?
They're not the first club to have this stuff thrown at them and they will have the World's best lawyers as they have extremely deep pockets.
You can probably put clubs like Barca, Real Madrid, Chelsea, PSG etc in this bracket as well, I'm pretty sure they have spent well beyond their means for years.
You can’t compare city to Barca and Madrid. Madrid and barca have been the pinnacle of football for decades. Madrid is the second richest club in the world. Barca not having the funds to keep Messi is a good indicator of honest business.
@@GetERekted Barca have been in debt for so long, yet they have signed Lewandowski, Kounde, Depay, Aubmayeng and probably haven't paid De jong's salary. No chance that that is honest business.
See what is happening to Barcelona and Juventus. The book is coming and its being thrown with huge force.
@@GetERekted Madrid Bank rolled by the Spanish banks. Most corrupt club in the world. Just their owner is on the board of UEFA so he greases palms for people to look the other way
@@finding_aether Nothing has happened to Barca yet
How can you be surprised after doing it for so long.
It's incredible that they actually think that people could possibly believe that these allegations are incorrect. How did they become a commercial power house overnight? They literally still struggle to fill their home ground unless UTD or Liverpool are in town. Money talks and I fully expect them to get away with it AGAIN.
Simple answer to all of this!Cap wages,cap transfer fees and cap how many players a club can sign in one transfer window before football is ruined which we all said would happen.But,this would need to be implemented all over the world.
i concur
If they decide to deduct 15 points from Man City like Juventus they’ll still be ahead of Liverpool and Chelsea. Earth is hard
Juventus did 1 mistake they only paid 3 months salary secretly because of COVID for these think they were punished 15 points and man city have 100 breaches so they have to be relegated
Automatic relegation, down 2 division's. $500 million fine, plus future profits seized.
As a punishment, points should be docked for every season they were crooked in their conduct, transfer bans for the next 10 years, and burn their stadium to the ground.
100%
Good punishment would be 15 point deduction, heavy fine and two year ban champion league and two window transfer ban
The fa can’t give a European ban i believe. Different comps.
@@van_lichenstein8171 enough points will take then out of top four, relegation would also take them out of top four
@@leonthethird7494 that still wouldn’t be a ban though..
@@van_lichenstein8171 effectively a ban
Agree with this
Guest is wrong - FFP is not designed to stop one club from buying all the players - it exists to prevent bankruptcy AND to uphold the traditional powerhouses at the top based on their established greater revenues. Should have implemented a salary cap and transfer cap if they wanted to truly prevent buying up all the assets the way Roman did with his loan army for a decades. Caps would allow benevolent owners to spend to success but not spend more than any other clubs - you would need to be well run - City is well run and won too much for the likes of ManU, Pool, FA, and media establishment.
Its going to send the wrong message to other clubs if Man City get to weasel their way out of this with just a £10mil fine or something daft.
Kaveh Solhekol putting his sneaky cards on the table there. Clearly wants City punished.
No wonder they wanted to ditch the premier league and join a super league. Getting rid of any accountability. Dock 30 point and transfer ban for 3 years
Finally! Thanks to the FA for taking action👏
You mean premier league
@@linimcfc715 enjoy the EFL or non league
They knew about this long time ago. They were just incompetent and waited too long before
Can see a fine and a slap on the wrist tbh. ZCOYG
@Swindon Town Fan TV been there seen it done that
We all know that nothing will happen. The Charges will be dropped after an appeal by City like they have been doing for years. However, If this is true not only is it embarrassing for City but more embarrassing for EPL for allowing it to happen for so long. To be continued.....
They are surprised how they were caught 👀
No about the details seem to me they Guilty just want to know how the hell it got leaked to the Prem.
@@KingDice246 some Portuguese hacker leaked the information along with other football related news
@King_Anubis246 Rather than speculating, you should actually WATCH the video. A Portuguese hacker had originally breached through many club transactions and records, he leaked it to the Spiegel in Germany. That's how the investigation started.
Imagine top 4 would be arsenal, MU, Castle and Brighton. No city, no Pool, no Chelsea and no Spurs... haha
Sad part is absolutely nothing will be done about it, that club are made of Teflon
I am surprised that they are surprised
If they insist that nothing untoward has happened at the club, then why wouldn't they be surprised?
🤣🤣Yeah🤣 they're surprised of been caught
So really they should have been relegated in 2009 and they shouldn’t have won trophies then
Relegate them to the national league and make them pay a massive fine to smaller clubs
Now this is what you call cheating. This isn't FIFA. Credit card & Cheat code F.C.
They need to be relegated to league 2. They need to be denied promotion for five years. They need to be limited in their spending whilst there to the average spending of the teams in the league in which they operate. Their owners and executives should be sanctioned financially and investigated for corruption and if evidence emerges of corruption they should be arrested, charged, and jailed. Finally they should be banned from holding executive positions within English clubs for at least ten years. I think this should be extended to other clubs most notably Chelsea.
It’s so unjust what they have done . We’re thinking pep is a genius but they were just cheating this whole time . Liverpool and man United have both been robbed of 2 epl trophies. Disgusting
Man United spent foolishly. Blame themselves
@@andricschow can you read with common sense? He means trophies
@@prakashm1468 wdym.... united has been trash for a decade and it's their fault
What do U mean? We all knew city have cheated. How could a mid table team suddenly buy superstars without the revenue to cover ffp. N we all know pep only goes to super rich clubs
With how boom or bust football is these days, it's getting to the point where you are more bothered about your club just continuing to exist than winning anything
But... I thought we paid everyone off that we needed to? 😂😂😂
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Forgot to pay pinto😂😂
New signings 🥰🥰🥰
How all this 100+ charges could be all wrong, there is something in there, so PL must be firm on this and root out cheating and corruption in the EPL and charge City for its crimes.
I find it hard to believe that the Portuguese hacker only found that City have breached rules, if he hacked most top teams from the top leagues and top agents. The timing of this is strange given how much money Chelsea spent.
Man City are very good at wriggling their way out of these charges but lets hope their Cash Happy owners don't buy their way out of this
Finally, let’s talk about another club other than Chelsea😮😮😮
Chelsea haven't broken rules and have been compliant with ffp since 2012. City spent twice as much as chelsea did in the abramovich era in a 7 year period but they don't have anywhere close the fanbase or income of chelsea. Chickens coming to roost.
Let them investigate first , don't bring your hate against Chelsea if your BROKE CLUB can't spend like CHELSEA..
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As a Chelsea fan, I find this disgusting! City should stop playing big boy games. Looking forward to the next Chelsea signing!
Football is the people's game. It's our own: the working class game. I don't like creating binaries but unlike rugby, cricket and the United States' own methods of commodifying their own sports, football (or "soccer") is deep-seeded in the cultural identity of our country and, no doubt, the identity of most nations across the globe.
Every time we allow greedy organisations and despotic near eastern states to meddle with our own game the less dignity we receive as supporters. Look at Everton and the lack of transparency between ownership and fans. What a joke! Historic clubs, founded by workers as a means to relieve stress from the hard life of factory and dock work, have given the sport back to the bourgeoise. No longer do we have a say; no longer do we own the sport; no longer do the fans of English clubs have a say on anything. Instead, we are just spoon fed the desires of owners with an agenda that lines their own pockets and limits access to the privileged few.
Ticket prices have inflated to such an extent that young people, families fallen on hard times, such as the current economic situation at the moment, are given no relief. Capitalism wants to survive yet is not even willing to let its tired and oppressed citizens a reprieve from the misery that it has piled onto its own workers.
We are nothing more than consumers of their spoils, allowing them to have custody of what is rightfully the public's own: the ownership of community. Of course, these owners like to give the allusion that they build the community but, in truth, it only serves to create even greater barriers between fans and the club. Essentially, the people have lost complete control. So much so that fans are left begging owners to do what is morally correct, allowing clubs to fall into debt and disrepair while they live out their lives on foreign soil. The Premier League as a governing body is a joke. Look how long they have let Manchester City to cheat behind their cash induced curtain! Ironically, it took a hacker to unravel the cheating - cheating I surmise the Premier League were aware of and did nothing - from Portugal, informing German journalists of the deceit. From which point, the Premier League was forced to take action so to protect itself from ridicule, as well as its own internal investigation.
Speaking of Germany, I say football in Britain follows the German model and implement a 50+ 1 ruling system, or some form of outside, fan monitored organisation so that the spirit of the game is not completely swallowed by individuals who know nothing about the sport, or the communities they represent.
When will the results be published, this is worrying
Something similar happened two years ago when they weren’t supposed to play in Europe, but guess what happened.
They appealed to a sports court and got overturned. The premier meauge has already informed that man city CANNOT appeal the latest charges with the sports court this time round
City have been breaching rules on a regular basis and need to be punished.
Good day for football. Hopefully city will be punished for cheating.
Hahahahaha salty baby, it's a terrible day for football. There will be no new big teams ever, just United, Liverpool and Chelsea winning everything forever. It's a dirty allegation to smear City, nothing more.
I bet they are surprised, as they thought they had paid everyone.
The should apply retroactive point deductions for the years of the breaches.
If you are going to charge them punish them. Strip them
other clubs were punished for less. let that be the baseline for anything that comes to city
Examples please?
@@TPHB5011 Derby County were deducted 9 points, had a transfer ban and a wage limit imposed on them. For inflating the value of their stadium, and amortizing player values. This is nothing compared to what City are accused of
Does this explain why they’ve finally started selling players in the last season or two? (Jesus, Zinchenko, Sterling). Trying to balance the books?
Chelsea, Man City can never be legitimately doing business. No way
Look at how Chelsea spent lately. It's ridiculous
Chelsea have been compliant with ffp since 2012. As of the beginning of this accounting year they were debt free. They have broken no rules and have 3 years to balance the books. But no way can it be legitimate because you don't like them eh. City sponsoring themselves is breaking the rules.
@@notreal1477 No its not lol
@@notreal1477 Man City are debt-free too
@@TheRedBaron1917 yes it is. Its literally required for all owner related sponsors to be approved by the prem or uefa. (As of 2021 wheras before it was out right banned) Google it instead of refuting something thats public knowledge and making yourself look stupid.
They’re the only ones surprised by it. It’s a damn shame it took them 9 years to enforce the rules. Imagine the impact it could’ve made
ffp is not about competive balance just keeping the big boys at the top so where are the other clubs that got mentioned only city seem to be in the line of fire
- future newcastle fan
@@VR46314 have been for 25 years
FFP is the real cheat
Did he say slap on the wrist or maybe a fine? Look at what happened to Everton! It is literally handcuffed or club for two seasons. I wish it was a slap on the wrist maybe for the big six. Such a hypocritical rule man city better get sanctions tough ones like everyone else.
They should be suspended forthwith
City are surprised by these charges. So far as they are concerned these rules do not apply to them.