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  • @invertedbat6546
    @invertedbat6546 6 років тому +12

    All the Saabs look so cool and funky on the ground/taxiing, and THEN absolutely otherworldly in the sky. Beauty.

  • @fredtedstedman
    @fredtedstedman 4 роки тому +9

    My father worked in aerospace most of his life and I remember him seeing the Viggen , at Farnborough , and being SO impressed !!! Wales UK

  • @gerhardnigl8253
    @gerhardnigl8253 3 роки тому +5

    Ich liebe dieses Teil. Mit Schmunzeln denke ich ans Einparken mit dem Ding. So für den täglichen Flug in die Arbeit. Für mich eine der besten Maschinen, die je gebaut wurden.

  • @zapfanzapfan
    @zapfanzapfan 7 років тому +23

    I love the deep booming voice it has :-)

  • @X-Gen-001
    @X-Gen-001 5 років тому +5

    I'll always regard the Viggen as something extra special, being the first scale model I ever constructed as a kid.

    • @legan8140
      @legan8140 4 роки тому

      X Gen same here ❤️

  • @jeoverv
    @jeoverv 7 років тому +121

    The only fighter aircraft in history to get a radar lock on the SR-71 Blackbird. The american crew on "the sled" were sporty enough to actually send the swedish pilot a reward afterwards.

    • @Dennree99
      @Dennree99 7 років тому +2

      source?

    • @leozzk616
      @leozzk616 7 років тому +37

      Source? The Swedish Airforce...
      The US would frequently fly over the Baltic Sea with its SR-71 Blackbird at very high altitudes and up to three times the speed of sound. Since Sweden had to intercept foreign aircraft regularly they had aircraft combat ready and could breakaway to pursuit.
      "It was routine for me, but I was at a very high altitude. The digital control data that was presented to me confirmed it was either one of two possible aircrafts - a Soviet MiG-25 or a SR-71. I looked at what was happening on the radar to see if there was any attempt at jamming, and then pursued the target."
      He then had a look to see if he could get a visual on the Blackbird.That was when I saw a graphite-grey aircraft pass me a few thousand meters above.
      To this day he still does not want to reveal the exact altitude at which he was at, but it was much higher than he had been earlier. The first thing P-O Eldh noticed was that the sky had suddenly become dark.
      From being blue just a few minutes earlier, it was now black. On my way down again, I could also clearly see the curvature of the earth.
      General Lennart Petterson is the chief of the Tactical Flight Command but also he was a fighter pilot back in the days. He clearly remembers how fast everything went which missions against the SR-71 involved and describes these events as the highlights of his career. "Each time was just as exciting and interesting. Intercepting the aircraft was tremendously difficult because of the high speeds and altitudes but it was one of the most extreme missions you could be a part of. When we succeeded, which we did most of the time, and afterwards could conclude that we actually would be able to shoot the SR-71 down if it were a live mission, it was quite pleasing since it was at the same time an evaluation of our professionalism."

    • @jeoverv
      @jeoverv 7 років тому +10

      As Le Ozzk wrote as a comment. :) I could add that even while "The Sled" tried to jam the Swedish Viggen, the Viggen received target data from radars on the ground and was thus able to keep a missile lock on the SR-71.

    • @KingKong-os7iv
      @KingKong-os7iv 7 років тому +13

      You think your shit's invincible? But it's not. You're only europeans on a new continent.

    • @BornAgain77757
      @BornAgain77757 7 років тому +5

      Yes and if this radar lock was indeed on a SR-71 Blackbird, Radar Lock is the only thing that you would have gotten!

  • @laviateur6309
    @laviateur6309 7 років тому +38

    So glad to fly this beauty on DCS!

    • @grennymaster
      @grennymaster 4 роки тому +3

      have buyd it last week. Its absolutley great :)

    • @ranger6609
      @ranger6609 4 роки тому +3

      I've been saving up for it! Would love to do road ops

  • @nacerkhamou3149
    @nacerkhamou3149 4 роки тому +2

    i really command this pilot for showing her off in this manner, i love this bird

  • @petter5721
    @petter5721 4 роки тому +11

    300 meter takeoff, impressive👍🏻

  • @gus960
    @gus960 5 років тому +3

    That turn circle on take off ....amazeballs!!!!

  • @clayvanalstyne7805
    @clayvanalstyne7805 8 років тому +62

    Love how the Swedes purpose build to suit their conditions perfectly...

    • @zoom5024
      @zoom5024 7 років тому +14

      because our military is a defence force and nothing else :)

    • @hog-boy-8843
      @hog-boy-8843 6 років тому

      GR8 point, same with the S tank.

    • @CorvusCorax.
      @CorvusCorax. 5 років тому

      + Apricot Theory
      Artillery is much cheaper 😋

    • @SonsOfLorgar
      @SonsOfLorgar 2 роки тому +2

      @@CorvusCorax. no cheap land based artillery can take out soviet amphibious invasion fleets from the western shores of thd baltic sea...
      Your point is ignorant.

  • @DustyCowdog
    @DustyCowdog 7 років тому +17

    That thing is a beast!

  • @christianlebordelais
    @christianlebordelais 8 років тому +8

    Un fantastique avion de chasse...trés spectaculaire à voir.......Bien filmé.....

  • @evertzandbergen2968
    @evertzandbergen2968 7 років тому +15

    Awesome video. Definately my favorite coldwar fighter.

  • @ariinkeroinen2615
    @ariinkeroinen2615 5 років тому +4

    Never got enough for with "The Hammer" - Saab Viggen! ))=D

  • @VCZ2012
    @VCZ2012 Рік тому +2

    Swedish steel by SAAB a Soviet killer and a powerful and beautiful fighter plane. 🇸🇪 stolt svensk! Swedish engineering.

  • @stefansandstrom7568
    @stefansandstrom7568 4 роки тому +3

    Simply the best! and now we have 39 Gripen C , CD and the New E is the world's best except F 22 Raptor. 👍👍🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪

  • @mirjadoon4683
    @mirjadoon4683 7 років тому +12

    Swedish classic, powerful jet

  • @Tecci21
    @Tecci21 4 роки тому +1

    Und genau wegen solchen Maschinen fahre ich jedesmal zur Airpower! Ein irres Gerät vorallem der Klang ist auch sehr speziell :)

  • @hansstopfer878
    @hansstopfer878 7 років тому +2

    The Viggen was one of the best Fighter-Bomber of her time. Cheap and effectiv in multi roles. And his time far ahead in many categories. Bye Hans..

  • @05levman
    @05levman 2 роки тому

    Great jet that has a look unlike any other Mach 2+ jet. Saab really knew how to build jets that were ahead of their time. The J-35 Draken is also a cool Saab jet thas about the size of a F-16. Hasegawa has an excellent J-35 1/72nd scale model with great color schemes. All red, Yellow or Black Drakens look cool painted in either colors. Great panel line detail and perfectly fitting parts. It's a $20 model and has aftermarket parts including a mask. The Saab J-37 comes from Special Hobby is a great model. It's twice the size of the Draken and those front canards just make it look like no other jet. I built the recon version of the Saab J-37 which is the SA-37. Both are 1/72nd scale and both kits have great engraved panel lines .

  • @christerahs9776
    @christerahs9776 5 років тому +15

    90 000 hp raw power on full trottle.
    The most poweful engine in a fighter jet ever.
    A big rocket with a steering wheel.
    (Old military saying)

    • @O-oo3uu
      @O-oo3uu 5 років тому

      Turns like a piece of shit easy target practice for Migs.

    • @oceanforth21
      @oceanforth21 5 років тому +5

      Omer lmao, you out here actually thinking that’s true

    • @carpetclimber4027
      @carpetclimber4027 5 років тому +4

      Omer What a bunch of bullshit.

    • @thethirdman225
      @thethirdman225 4 роки тому

      @@carpetclimber4027 Depends on who is flying what. Air combat is rarely decided by the machinery.

    • @thethirdman225
      @thethirdman225 4 роки тому

      FR Not a fighter engine.

  • @davidhildebrand8894
    @davidhildebrand8894 4 роки тому

    Nothing like seeing the Pratt and Whitney JT-8 on a fighter jet! That’s one hell of an engine! After all, that’s what the 727, 737-200, and MD-88s have 😃

  • @mikesmiltarybooks
    @mikesmiltarybooks 7 років тому +7

    Excellent camera work. tack så mycket

    • @at.airshow
      @at.airshow  7 років тому +2

      Mike Woodhouse Thank you! ;)

  • @bacardi20
    @bacardi20 Рік тому +1

    At that time building a plane that only has the STOL capability, not that hard. Build a plane that reach and goes beyond mach 2, not that hard. Combine it and you have the Viggen, way harder to do but the swedish engineers managed to! Impressive!

  • @ESPirits87
    @ESPirits87 8 років тому +21

    King of the Northern Skies.

    • @zoom5024
      @zoom5024 7 років тому +9

      king of the world at it's time.

  • @uwela298
    @uwela298 4 роки тому +1

    Das Gerät ist der Hammer.Ich stimme zu.Tolle Show,gut gefilmt.

  • @bjorn55531
    @bjorn55531 7 років тому +35

    AJS-37 Viggen sound like a good dam rocket on tackeof

    • @JohnDoe-qo4xd
      @JohnDoe-qo4xd 6 років тому +13

      old_marine ; Yup, it's the most brutal jet-engine sound I've ever heard. In 98 I got off a passenger jet in an airport in southern Sweden, at the tarmac. About 150m away 2 Viggens took off at the same time and the ground shook. It's got a peculiar raw, thunderlike sound, it's beautiful.

    • @azynkron
      @azynkron 5 років тому +3

      90000 hp with the afterburner on. It was designed for STOL from bases on the normal road network. Hence, it needed to be able to both take off and land on way shorter strips than normal fighters.

    • @Schenton
      @Schenton 4 роки тому +4

      @@azynkron That's the attack and recon version. The fighter had more. I did my militery time on the F17 airfeald in 1989 and the kaptain that instrukted us said that the fighter hade about 120000 hp then he smiled and said "that's the official numbers". Take from that what you will. The only thing that differ this plane from a rocket is it wasnt going to space to often.

    • @jesperwall839
      @jesperwall839 4 роки тому +2

      Fun fact. JA-37 accelerated until there was no fuel left.

  • @jayphilipwilliams
    @jayphilipwilliams 6 років тому +4

    Very cool plane. Thanks for sharing.

    • @at.airshow
      @at.airshow  6 років тому

      Jay Philip Williams No prob. ;)

  • @gunterklampfl3674
    @gunterklampfl3674 Рік тому +2

    Awesome

  • @reinaldodeoliveirabrandt8794
    @reinaldodeoliveirabrandt8794 4 роки тому

    Parabéns aos suecos pelo belíssimo jato, com certeza uma tecnologia invejável. BRAZIL

  • @mariojosepereira3568
    @mariojosepereira3568 5 років тому

    Um dos avioes mais perfeitos que ja vi. Acredito eu, que o BRASIL fechou com a Saab, devido a ele, pela manobrabilidade, pela estabilidade, facilidade de se voar; o Grippen, se parece muito com ele, e vem com o knowhow da Suecia !!! Me parece, que o projeto do Viggen, e datado de 1958, tendo voado apenas em 1966 0u 67. Quem souber me oriente, mas ate os americanos babaram nesse aviao !!!

  • @tomyfamily1
    @tomyfamily1 7 років тому

    I miss seeing the Viggen. next to the Warthog this was my favorite foreign fighter.

  • @lokomotivet9622
    @lokomotivet9622 8 років тому +4

    Great jet and video!

  • @52down
    @52down 7 років тому

    I wish this magnificent fighter would arrive on Radom Air Show one day.

  • @PowerslideSWE
    @PowerslideSWE 8 років тому +4

    AWESOME!!!

  • @jakobfabian1143
    @jakobfabian1143 6 років тому +1

    Ich muss da genau neben dir gestanden sein ich höre mich reden schönes Video 👍👍👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

    • @at.airshow
      @at.airshow  6 років тому

      Jakob fabian Böckle Kann sein jaa :) Danke! ;)

  • @michaelthebarbarian3380
    @michaelthebarbarian3380 3 роки тому +1

    Viggens are bad ass.

  • @69sungam
    @69sungam 7 років тому +9

    this is a 60:s aircraft and its so mutch before the time!
    they say that its almost could land on aircraftcarrieer
    with out a hook!
    /SUI

    • @fredtedstedman
      @fredtedstedman 4 роки тому +2

      Does carrier takeoffs and no-flare carrier landings , very impressive ! Would be good to see ?

  • @prellbocktv6971
    @prellbocktv6971 8 років тому +9

    Am Schluss.....Deis Gerät is a Wahnsinn.....😅

  • @TheMythicalAce
    @TheMythicalAce 7 років тому +6

    I can only hope that someday, one of the few remaining Viggens will end up on the civilian market. I'll pay any price.

    • @JohnDoe-qo4xd
      @JohnDoe-qo4xd 6 років тому

      Everett Tech ; I would too! Sadly I don't see it ever happening...

    • @DanielleMoren
      @DanielleMoren 6 років тому

      Depends what you will do for it, if you have the right contacts, you could probably buy one for 2000$ in Sweden

    • @ESPirits87
      @ESPirits87 6 років тому +1

      Depends if you want to display it or fly it, there are only 2 Viggens left that can possibly fly, this is one plus 1 SK37 Viggen that SwAFHF is fixing up.

  • @tomjohnson5597
    @tomjohnson5597 5 років тому +2

    Great video, thanks.

  • @SWISSPOWERJET
    @SWISSPOWERJET 5 років тому +1

    SO EIN GEILER FLIEGER - SUPER AUFGENOMMEN.

  • @Altenholz
    @Altenholz 8 років тому +3

    Brilliant!!!!!!

  • @heliomarcos9917
    @heliomarcos9917 4 роки тому

    Esse avião é muito show...

  • @delaynomore2159
    @delaynomore2159 6 років тому

    The peak of Saab fighters!!!

  • @Tapio86
    @Tapio86 3 роки тому +3

    Hm... I heard no car alarms going off. Did everyone ride a bike or walk to the show?

  • @carrkizz
    @carrkizz 7 років тому +1

    I was there ... Great Show

  • @edwardtang1977
    @edwardtang1977 6 років тому +5

    This jet proved we haven't improved for 50 years, just stuck an iPad in the cockpit and called it new.

    • @standardheat-fs8159
      @standardheat-fs8159 3 роки тому

      @skogenburzum Not only F16 but also about the Abrams Tank, the T72 and so on

  • @MrTotte52
    @MrTotte52 7 років тому +2

    Yes we can !!!

  • @alinawaz1730
    @alinawaz1730 4 роки тому

    Really didn't know about saab's radical design planes

  • @ernestodanielmorales9962
    @ernestodanielmorales9962 7 років тому

    El mejor avion para la fuerza aerea Argentina 2017, con prestaciones parecidas al mig 29.

  • @327iroc
    @327iroc 3 роки тому +4

    Svensk stolthet i luften ❤️

  • @Leon81927
    @Leon81927 5 років тому +1

    very elegant

  • @jasminebockle6831
    @jasminebockle6831 Рік тому

    Schade das sie dieses Jahr nicht da war. Das ist der jett der absolut am lautesten ist. Vielleicht kommt sie am 2025 nochmals

  • @nodrilltoday
    @nodrilltoday 5 років тому +3

    Built around it's enourmous modified Volvo rm engine with superior capacity. A three stages afterburner.... extremly fast, even faster and the finally stage Major Tom....

    • @nodrilltoday
      @nodrilltoday 5 років тому +1

      @M G G First flight in 1967, what did you expect..... gen 5 capabilitys?

    • @thethirdman225
      @thethirdman225 4 роки тому +2

      @M G G Mach 2.1 is well good enough. But in the 1970s it could out climb pretty much anything.

  • @christerahs9776
    @christerahs9776 4 роки тому +11

    This was the "days of thunder"
    Todays leaders of our country could not even deside when to take a shit but asking EU first. It's a shame.

  • @cmdcs
    @cmdcs 7 років тому +2

    Danke für diese wirklich gelungenen Aufnahmen! :)
    Darf ich fragen, womit 'ihr' (oder Du) das gefilmt habt? Also welche Kamera und welches Objektiv... :)
    UND: WIE habt ihr es geschafft, dass ihr keinen Maschendrahtzaun im Bild habt? 3m hoch gewachsen oder irgendein anderer 'Trick'? :D
    Runtergedrückt habt/ hast ihr/ Du ihn (den Zaun) ja nicht oder?
    LG aus dem net sooo schönen Wien ;)

    • @at.airshow
      @at.airshow  7 років тому +2

      Hallo! Danke erstmal für Dein Lob:)
      Aufgenommen habe ich diesen Donnerkeil:) mit einer Panasonic HC-V707EG-K.
      Zu deiner Frage wegen dem Zaun .Wann immer der Rekrut vor uns weggesehen hat , haben wir den Zaun immer ein paar cm runter geschoben, ohne das es ihm aufgefallen ist :) . Schlussendlich war der Zaun dann nur mehr 50 cm hoch :) Lg

    • @cmdcs
      @cmdcs 7 років тому +2

      Hallo und GERNE!!!
      Ich denke, wenn sich jemand offensichtlich Mühe gegeben hat und das dann auch hier reinstellt, damit wir es auch betrachten können, dann darf man sich auch mal bedanken für etwas und nicht immer alles als selbstverständlich betrachten :)
      AAAACH! Mit einer V707 sieht das schon SO gut aus!?! Ich habe nämlich die 909 bzw 929 im Auge gehabt und dachte mir, dass die vielleicht nicht ausreichend wären. Die höheren Modelle sind ja sogar 3-Chip Dinger ^^
      Ja, das sieht man auf dem Video eh so ähnlich - ist ja quasi kein Zaun mehr an der Stelle vorhanden :D :D :D
      LG

  • @ianmangham4570
    @ianmangham4570 Рік тому +1

    Balls To The Wall

  • @kay9782
    @kay9782 8 років тому +1

    KOpfhöre, volle Pulle !!!! Höllengerät! SAUGEIL!

  • @raythenation
    @raythenation 7 років тому +1

    wow

  • @raythenation
    @raythenation 7 років тому

    they still do

  • @Zerfix_
    @Zerfix_ 6 років тому +2

    The viggen had a radar lock on the blackbird,they didnt want to shoot but just to scare the blackbird,and the viggen Did so 2 migs crashed into the baltic sea:)

  • @Jagarekca.Bahureksa
    @Jagarekca.Bahureksa 3 роки тому

    Wing/Engine/Material
    🙄🙄❤️😉

  • @Jagarekca.Bahureksa
    @Jagarekca.Bahureksa 3 роки тому

    Sejatinya semua tornado bisa terbang
    😘😘🙄😭

  • @chrisgs8727
    @chrisgs8727 4 роки тому +1

    I wonder why it wasn't exported ...

  • @ichmalealsobinich
    @ichmalealsobinich 6 років тому

    Sehr gute Aufnahmen von einem Flieger, der dafür sorgte dass die Russen viel lieber über St. Petersburg Luftkampf übten als über Stockholm.

    • @at.airshow
      @at.airshow  6 років тому

      jean george pierre Danke!

  • @xenaandzenafromsanbernadin3807
    @xenaandzenafromsanbernadin3807 7 років тому +2

    7:03 on the left side of the fuselage ... is that a ram air turbine?

    • @PALbub
      @PALbub 7 років тому +3

      It might be an emergency electricity generator if the turbine fails and basic instruments still need power.

    • @secularnevrosis
      @secularnevrosis 7 років тому +2

      In case of engine stalling the turbine provides electrical and hydaulic power.

    • @thethirdman225
      @thethirdman225 4 роки тому

      Yes. It deploys with the landing gear.

  • @Monthian-rf7hq
    @Monthian-rf7hq 2 місяці тому

    🤡🤡🤡😋😋😍😍🥰😄👍❤️ เขาเหมือน ปลาหางนกยูง 😊

  • @ccalidor
    @ccalidor 5 років тому

    Warum bist du nicht bei den Schweden geblieben?

  • @jakobfabian1143
    @jakobfabian1143 7 років тому

    👍💪

  • @raythenation
    @raythenation 7 років тому +2

    the swedes built beautiful planes and no enemies !

    • @Merecir
      @Merecir 7 років тому +3

      During the cold war it was very clear who the enemy would be.

    • @kurtsoderberg
      @kurtsoderberg 4 роки тому

      Always the Russkies.

  • @laurenthervesi1226
    @laurenthervesi1226 2 роки тому

    C est en Autriche mais où ca

  • @Tillerman56
    @Tillerman56 7 років тому

    Fine display of a fine aircraft! Is it standard procedure to deploy the RAT during taxi?

    • @christerandersson2
      @christerandersson2 7 років тому +5

      It's connected to the landing gear. When it's extended the RAT is also extended. No option to control it seperately AFAIK.

    • @voderick
      @voderick 4 роки тому +1

      There are many Pictures och Movies with the RAT in a folded in pos on internet upon landing. Sure about this?

    • @MatsGarage
      @MatsGarage 4 роки тому +2

      @@voderick If I remember correctly it deploys automatically when the pilot selects the short runway and full reverse thrust landing mode.

  • @brogamerr1649
    @brogamerr1649 2 роки тому

    Flying not bad, but fighting?

  • @neuron05
    @neuron05 4 роки тому

    Well. The Swedes don't make them silent.

  • @MegaGronis
    @MegaGronis Рік тому +2

    F 7 Såtenäs.

  • @puftepos
    @puftepos 5 років тому

    Why was the ram air turbine out?

    • @voderick
      @voderick 4 роки тому

      Nice Pictures and support upon sudden engine problems.
      Give the aircraft hyd.power enough to land...

    • @thethirdman225
      @thethirdman225 4 роки тому

      It automatically deploys with the landing gear.

  • @AngeldavidVelezestrada
    @AngeldavidVelezestrada Рік тому

    Europa77

  • @jakobfabian1143
    @jakobfabian1143 6 років тому

    Wann kommt die airpower wieder

    • @at.airshow
      @at.airshow  6 років тому +2

      Jakob fabian Böckle Am 6. - 7. September 2019 ;)

    • @jakobfabian1143
      @jakobfabian1143 6 років тому

      AT Airshow danke ich werde da sein

    • @at.airshow
      @at.airshow  6 років тому

      Jakob fabian Böckle Kein Problem 😉

  • @voodoo22
    @voodoo22 5 років тому +2

    Afterburner stage 3 on. burn all fuel in 9 minutes.

    • @kurtsoderberg
      @kurtsoderberg 5 років тому

      You would be in space, its a RAM jet engin, no top speed recorderd

  • @aandersson650
    @aandersson650 2 роки тому

    it forgot its wallet

  • @mastenas
    @mastenas 6 років тому +1

    I dont beleve this aircraft use civilian same 737 first generatio engine.

    • @voderick
      @voderick 4 роки тому +1

      JT8D Basic Engine
      But almost totally rebuilt by Volvo Flygmotor Sweden like:
      -1ea gearbox to support single Engine systems onboard.
      -Afterburner(off course)

    • @davidhildebrand8894
      @davidhildebrand8894 4 роки тому +1

      You’re right! My dad worked on 727s, 737-200s, and MD-80s for a long time. I played the sound of the engine for him, and I asked him which one he thought it was. He immediately said 727! Lol. I think the JT8 has the best sound. Awesome seeing it on a fighter jet!

  • @clementeloyola8051
    @clementeloyola8051 5 років тому

    7:12 please parking in reverse

  • @insertnamehere8096
    @insertnamehere8096 3 роки тому

    Saab can make a great fighter but can't make a car worth crap.

    • @SonsOfLorgar
      @SonsOfLorgar 2 роки тому

      Because it's two different companies with the same acronym.

  • @timedwards6854
    @timedwards6854 3 роки тому

    Saab are ACE.
    USA RUSSIA CHINA EUROPE you all pale into insignificance compared to 🇸🇪

  • @user-el7my5wl7o
    @user-el7my5wl7o 4 роки тому

    Так и кукурузник может, где высший пилотаж?

  • @meenam300zx
    @meenam300zx 4 роки тому +2

    The problem with swedes is that they are not good at marketing and unfortunately not independent enough to sell these planes to others. They could sell tons of these to middle east. Sadly, another wasted product like Saab and Volvo.

    • @sixstrings666
      @sixstrings666 4 роки тому +1

      Well, It's not inconcievable that politics got involved from various powers.

  • @arthurmclane1529
    @arthurmclane1529 5 років тому

    Dieser Schrotthaufen erinnert, so irgendwie, an eine MIG 21 :)
    Aber einzig konzipiert für Tiefflug und Schiffsbekämpfung. Ansonsten eine lahme TONTAUBE.

  • @donbryant58
    @donbryant58 6 років тому

    Sweden is so kewl. They even have the sign of the magi on their air planes. Why was the ground support guy packing a side arm? Was he going to a Trump rally after he got off duty?