Justin channelling maximum Disappointed Dad energy for this video. You ever be in the presence of someone being scolded and you start to feel bad? That's me right now.
The rise and fall of DaBaby is wild….and self inflicted. In my opinion, he felt invincible after he didn’t get charged for that Walmart murder, and all of the other times he’s put hands on folks. He let those words fly at Rolling Loud and doubled down days after, effectively putting 2 nails in his career’s coffin. The new album and the music video both exude desperation, and it’s a telling sign of what’s to come
BIGFAX. He’s dodged so many land mines that it’s easy to feel invincible. Great analysis. I mean think about the number of times he could’ve been in prison already. Yeezus.
@@TheCompanyMan He killed another black male and got away with it because nobody cares about black lives. He made the mistake of attacking one of the most protected groups in society; the LGBTQIA Mafia. You can't say anything complimentary or derogatory about the Jewish community and you can't say anything derogatory about the LGBTQIA Mafia. But you can kill another black male and make a record bragging about it.
Controversy aside, I really feel like DaBaby has made the same mistake Fetty Wap made before him where he put out so many dope songs (that ultimately sound similar) in such a short time span that he oversaturated the market and now people are kinda burnt out.
That's possible. But on the other hand, listen to Baby on Baby and then go straight to listening to Baby on Baby 2. There is zero similarities between the two, except for the same, seemingly recycled beats. I'm a big fan of Dababy but this one I BARELY made it until the end. It's like he paid more attention to the visuals (which I LOVE! DON'T EVER STOP THAT) than the music. The album isn't fun, is what I'm trying to say. I went str8 back to Baby on Baby, Blank Blank & Kirk and was TURNT UP again Doh! #GetBackUpBaby! You got this! #BlankBlank #QueenCity #tha4 #704WeOutchea!!
Let’s hope he don’t end up in jail like fetty. Sadly I feel like dababy is tracking in that direction. It’s so frustrating because dababy truly is talented. He just got stuck following instead of leading
Agree with this Yeti! I feel this is exactly what’s happened to Post Malone, I’d love to see Justin do a break down on “Rising too Fast, and the even fast fall down”
Boom! Everyone is saying that his antics got him canceled. No, he never created a strong solid hard-core fan base and he oversaturated rhe maeket with too many hits too quickly turning him into a trend artist. Its like he doesnt know when to stop. Hip hop is NOTORIOUSLY homophobic and misogynistic since its inception. Had Lil Wayne said the same things Da Baby said then dropped an album with no promo it'd go platinum in a week.
Apologizing now a days just means public image repair. We all know he meant what he said, the only thing he is sorry for is for being cut from all those music festivals/collabs
I feel like dababy could comeback but you’re totally right he’s completely unaware of the situation he’s in and the way hes maneuvering around it makin it worse
Another great breakdown Justin! We have seen great artists grow with their audiences (i.e. Scarface, Jay-Z, Nas, Kendrick) I think that when you exhibit a lack of maturity and an inability to grow, it increases the chances of your audience fading away. Also, was wondering if next time you could touch on the relationship between the members of Little Brother since Big Pooh just said the group is only two members now
I agree IZ. If you dont grow, you’re dead. Good call on an LB piece. I’m long overdue and they’re one of my favorite groups. How do you like the Pooh project?
Dababy attracted "pop" fans more than anything. Those fans switch up just like that. Have a core fanbase, that's important, look at YB, Carti, Cole etc they have a core fanbase. Moreover, what Dababy said at Rolling Loud was really uncalled for.
THIS is the main reason why he flopped, NOT his distasteful antics. YB could've said and did everything DaBaby said and did and he STILL would've sold over 100k albums with the exact same amount of promo DaBaby got. DaBaby was dependent on the passive listener and the causal Top 40 Hip Hop/Pop fan and their preferences can change every couple of years making that an unsustainable way to maintain a career.
The same reason they hate him is the same reason they loved him. He speaks his mind and he's transparent. He just directed his transparency to his thriving audience. When keeping it real goes wrong.
You popped up on my suggested and I love your delivery. Some of your comments made me laugh 😂 I stopped listening to DaBaby after the Kirk album; all the songs sounded the same. And if I’m not mistaken, this was around the time he slapped a fan at a concert and was constantly in the news for foolishness. I think it started to smell himself with how fast he became popular. He got too comfortable too early. He tarnished his own career.
"How are you turning up when the ladies don't love you?" What a damn good point/question. I haven't given Da Baby a listen, I believe he can bounce back from this temporary downfall. Right now he's young and young men mess sometimes but there's a lot of time to grow and mature....... Fall off the face of the earth.
I mean, r Kelly and Chris brown did much crazier things in my opinion and they still sold a lot of records. There’s hope for dababy but he’s got to start with himself.
Do y’all know someone in your circle, work or family member who feels the need to be right even when they’re wrong? They will call every body they know to state their case, until they get 1 crazies or 2 to side with them so they can keep doubling down on their dumb sht🤔 That’s Dababy 🤦🏽♂️
I hate that that energy is so pervasive in this era. Even major media personalities and broad public figures have this energy as if accountability is weakness. Feels like a product of late stage capitalism.
It’s not the fact he’s going out sad, he just doesn’t have developmental progress. He’s been one dimensional since his second album. He was declining before Rolling Loud. Let’s keep it real, he’s always been a street nigga. Always. Rolling Loud was just the straw that broke the camels back. And the fact that he didn’t do damage control sooner is what really hurt him. Same thing happened with Tim Hardaway. But real talk, Dababy is trying to keep his buoy afloat……. This Meg thing is for a shock value thing. (See your video “Game Going Out Sad”). Great video my guy!!! I messaged you on IG, hopefully we can chop it up soon!!!!!! Great video again.
This man went from a top 5 current rapper to being pressed on the socials by Bennie & The Jets (that’s Elton John for you youngins) to clout chasing using Megan TheeStallion name…damn, just damn. Why folks like to set they money on fire DaJoker🤦🏾♂️ Perfect video again, Mr. Hunte. Can’t wait to see what the next video will be.
I may be bias since I'm a gay man myself, but yeah, these days you gotta have women and gays on your side or at least leave them alone and be neutral, women as a whole are the holders of money around the world and make the majority of all purchases so just from that alone means most businesses should cater to women simply out of having more chances for profit. Together with the fact women dominate pop music, which most rappers use as a bridge to have more listeners and expand their market, female artists are more out going with experimenting with genres as well from my personal opinion, whenever i think of alternative or experimental music i think of many female or women identified artists, gay male artist's...and that's it, there's pronaly a lot of cishet male experimental or alternative artists out there, but the most influential and even the ones who get on charts are women(Bjork, Kate Bush, Fionna Apple) and the ones who leave impressions on the industry as well. Kanye himself had one of his albums mostly produced by a Venezuelan Transgender music producer Arca, so a lot of rappers are taking inspo from LGBT people by proxy. Ain't no one more interested in music, in revolutionizing and changing what can't or be made then the gays and women if you ask me. So mistreating any of them is career suicide unless you are extremely niche.
Awesome analysis. You absolutely nailed it. It’s crazy to think you can be a pop star without women and the lgbtq community. Thank you for the perspective.
Let's not forget that he also literally murdered somebody and got away with it. I think that shit boosted up his head and made him feel like he was unstoppable tbh. Then the shit of him punching out that woman. That was the beginning of the end for me cus you could see he wasn't used to having to take accountability and still isn't
I just discovered you channel because of the kanye west incident (if you can call it that), it shows that you love Hip Hop and all you want is for the community to grow and apprecciate the art behind it. This (and all your breakdowns) take a lot of effort, and you always deliver great content, gained a sub. Also I liked some of the earlier DaBaby's verses but the new bars are kind of weak imo.
Justin, I love these videos, I've been watching your Breakdowns since the HipHopDX days. If I can make one bit of constructive criticism it's the theme music always seems to come in a bit too loud compared to the rest of the video. Otherwise, great stuff as usual sir.
@@TheCompanyMan Damn there's a lot of good options. Lupe would be the most obvious rn. Common's longevity I think gets overlooked too. But also I think it's time for a female GOAT piece. It's been a while since the Lauryn Hill one
“Big misunderstanding”. Yeah, on _his_ part. He doesn’t understand how being gay works, and he also doesn’t understand that what he said can’t just be brushed away as some type of accident or bent in any type of way to make it okay. Its fucking straight up hate speech and was very deliberate.
It's frustrating being a Dababy fan. He has made music that I undeniably love, but it feels like music from an argumentative kid bully right now, and I feel silly waiting for the maturation of an artist named Dababy.
Fantastic Breakdown. And also hilarious with great timing. Congrats on perfecting your craft. Also.. DaBaby record sales were mostly streaming so at some point it seems the same streaming services are just not playing his records. He was riding a huge wave at the top and I still find it amazing what someone can un-accomplish in one or two sentences, but then again, there was always Marie Antoinette 🤷🏾♂️
Yo… that so true. Amazing what someone can un-accomplish. Big BIGFAX. so much of that in the zeitgeist right now. What do you think dababy needs to do to bouncback?
@@TheCompanyMan Can he bounce back? Can he do a pro-lgbt apology tour like Kevin Hart did? Can he sign gay artists and donate to causes? Would that alienate his previous audience? Can Marie Antoinette get her back? I don’t have the answer to these questions Justin. Lol.
Dave Chappelle talked about this almost 20 years ago: "When 'keeping it real' goes wrong...". I'm a Carolina native as well and I was excited to have another artist from the area to make it (a lot of them don't break through from around here); but he wore down for me surprisingly quickly. I haye he steadily lessened his rise by making "not giving a fuck" the selling point of his brand, versus what made him popular. He looked at his career trajectory in a singular manner. Music is what keeps the fans entertained but that alone isn't why we gravitate to an artist. How he made his music and what he discussed in it is what brought us there. Instead of making all that the brand; he chose turn up as his primary music avenue and ignorant stances for controversy and attention. All publicity IS NOT good publicity.
@@TheCompanyMan He has the talent most definitely. It's all a matter of whether or not he's willing to humble himself enough to realize his flaws in his actions, as well as his missteps musically. The quote you pulled for the breakdown gave his game away. His music mentality in that interview is the case study on why French Montana can have platinum songs and also be completely irrelevant to Rap as a whole. Riding a wave with little variation will make you money if done well enough; but it doesn't breed longevity (EVEN if that's your own wave).
Excited to see you in my home feed again. For some reason YT wasnt putting you there for like a year until recently I manually looked you up again on a whim and caught up with all the videos I had missed. Great vid as usual. If you're reading this, subscribe and hit that damn bell, y'all
Personally I think people saying Dababy isnt "popping" while still talking about him is a bit weird. I think the real conversation is did Da Baby lose to Lil Baby? I think all the things he did could be forgotten with a huge hit BUT did Lil Baby put him to sleep.
I went to a lil baby show in Greenville the other week. It was like a religious experience. That crowd loves him. Plus he has a protest song! THE protest song of 2020. Hes surprised even me.
I do like DaBaby and I understand with him to say, he’s talking about people really no matter what your sexuality is being junkies and performing oral sex for dope. But the way it came out I think it came out really bad. That’s just something that he probably should not have said because when you make a comment that needs to be explained in that kind of detail it’s better just to not see the comment because it can be taken as offensive. I’ve seen a lot of people saying that there’s a conspiracy against him from the music industry like “ the man” is behind the scenes pushing buttons and pulling levers to make sure he doesn’t make it now. Look I’m not saying there aren’t real conspiracies out in the world but we live in a day where anytime something happens that people don’t like it’s written off as a conspiracy and it’s getting a bit old. The problem with making everything a conspiracy is that it’s easier for the real conspiracies to hide. Let’s say there’s one real conspiracy out there but so many people are tired of getting told that everything that happens is a conspiracy that they just don’t believe it anymore. I think what happened to DaBaby is a mix of two things. The first thing is probably the most obvious that there are a lot of people that have said they’re not fucking with him anymore because of his statement. I think the other thing is it’s his fourth album. His fourth main stream album. Hip-hop has never really been very kind to artists that are no longer new artist but now I think it’s worse than ever. You look at everything that went down with DJ Akademiks that’s kind of it on a bigger picture. Hip-hop doesn’t respect it’s history it used to be we didn’t respect what happened 15 years ago, then 10 years ago, now if you’ve been out for five years you’re “old and wack”. I love Kendrick Lamar’s last album, I don’t think it’s as good as the first three but I still think it’s brilliant work but it’s not being held up by the world as his other albums were. Kendricks a veteran now. I think DaBaby on top of dealing with his comments is also dealing with just not being the brand new shiny toy that everyone likes anymore.
Dababy's fall needs to be studied. I was telling my groupchat that had he not turned the women against him he'd have been fine over time. Everytime he got in trouble or involved with some BS they continued supporting him to platinum albums. They largely didn't mind his style being so simple and overused. He made fun music. It's funny to me that his audience is the exact same as Meg's and he ran them all away for absolutely no reason. Could have gotten at least 4-5 more years at the top.
Lot of ink circles and underlines on the paper this week! DaBaby def had a strong start, but you are right he has stayed very comfortable in that turn-up vibe. I think he has more to offer, but I am unsure he has left himself room to do so at this junctor. As you pointed out he has potentially alienated more than 50% of the audience. Women and LGBTQ. While we have of course seen artists make amends and come back from such missteps in the past, I can't recall one ever doing it while continuing to ignore the root cause of the issue. He might be able to take some time, let the public sentiment soften, allow a few news cycles put space between him and his words, and then come back to new admiration, but it's unclear if he, or people in his camp are willing to go that route. And if you don't have the answer to those questions, I certainly do not.
One thing I think works against him is how many massive hits he has already. He’ll be able to tour in the future and lean on legacy streams and when people have that kind of security blanket, it’s easy to stay locked in the same perspective. Thanks for the analysis Dana.
Gay boys are sitting around turning up to Da Baby and Da Baby isn't the first person to kiss and tell. While these things have added towards the feelings of disdain for Da Baby they're not why he flopped 1st week.
The only person I can think of that was a big star with not so much support from LGBTQ+ community and women was Eminem after the Marshal Mathers LP. Wonder why he was able to stay a big star after all of that? Was is the Elton John performance at the Grammys? Is that what DaBaby needs to do to save him? Or was it for another reason? 🧐
Random, but you having a statik selektah outro is so fitting. I adore it. On DaMatterathand, I am pleasantly unsurprised to learn that he has older projects out that showcase great rapping. His recent repetitive style doesn't sound like any of the first 100 flows a young MC would spit. With that being acknowledged, his recent music is not interesting to me and I am not fond of his content. His decrease is very sharp and odd to see. I hope he drops said J Cole ass project outta nowhere after he does whatever he needs for himself. The Meghan line is pathetic. Fire video. Stay healthy. May god be with you.
Thanks YB. Statik blessed me with that. He’s a great guy. Honestly, I can’t even imagine dababy dropping a conscious record at this point. I know he can do it. I just have no clue what it would sound like. Thanks for the analysis.
Great breakdown, Justin! I have been getting a better understanding of the hip hop industry because of your well articulated and very thorough videos! Keep up the great work and congrats on 100k!
great vid. youre one of the best doing it fr. curious what you think of his "my brothers keeper" ep? personally i was so blown away by that shit. i really feel like if he could combine that kind of intense vulnerability with his high level of skill and put it into a full length project he could release truly a classic album. ,,but these days idk, it just seems like hes backing himself into a corner that he wont get out of. but yea curious if you also saw something special in that ep?
Thanks Max! I think he'll have to do more of that going forward. I liked the tape. He's shown at times he can get personal and it come out dope. Kirk's got a few moments like that. Baby on Baby 2 has a joint or two at the end. His sound will need to evolve and he'll need to stay away from controversy. But it's in his wheel house.
FD Signifier said something I liked in one of his recent interviews: (paraphrased) “the only people Dababy hurt with his 2021 outburst were his own fans and himself. Because there are zero straight heterosexual men going around bumping Dababy, or who are ride-or-die for Dababy”
I really dont think he can recover from this. After the rolling loud shit, he couldve saved it but chose to double down on it. Its just embarrassing to see his downfall
@@WaxPanels that’s the thing about it, dababy has a ton of talent. He’s not one of these artists that has to lean into antics. He could just rap great and everything would be ok. I can’t wait for him to stop punching himself in the face. Thanks Ethan!
That and the people who quick to throw up pitchforks behind the next big thing. Look at Ukraine. Whities lining up left and right with bleeding hearts-some of 'em volunteering to go fight...and get they gung-ho asses blew the fuck up.
"when you got something going you would be a fool to step on your own toes and to left with it" isn't that what he did with Meg tho.... Both of them were gold together and him linking with Tory completely ruined that bag.
Exactly. He went left in a different way. He kept making the same songs afraid of going left, but instead went left on his lgbtq fans and women audience. That’s the irony of all of this.
Kanye West has done worse and said worse to be cancelled but somehow he is still one of the biggest artists in the world because the music is all that matters afterall. Dababy just makes trash ass music that all, him flopping had nothing to do with rolling loud and all that other controversial shit.
To be fair a lot of kanyes comments in recent years have been making derisive comments about black people. I'm sure a big part of why he hasn't been jettisoned is because he's black himself, but the rest of it is because too much of the US agrees with a lot of the ridiculous things he says about black people and the black community. Just look at his new companions following his most recent controversy.
He just seems cruel. Even to the mother of his child. And what did Meg even do to warrant his multiple jabs at her? I'm not sure if he'll ever get the career he had back. I think he'll end up like Boosie, he's got his audience, but his personality makes mainstream success going forward unlikely, just IMO
Never liked dude, not a fan of these new emcees. I wouldn't be surprised if he was talking about himself. Dude is delusional to think his career would be intact after saying that.
I think the final nail on his career was filming Dani late at night when they were fighting and tried to kick her and his new baby out of the house. And then he has the nerve to say "stay out of our business". No you invited everyone into your business when you livestreamed... On top of every other mess he's gotten himself into.
I honestly stopped listening to his music after the Rolling Loud comments. Why would I wanna go to a concert and hear hateful remarks about other groups? Just play the damn song
We Jesus lover's black balled him. When he mocked Jesus hanging on the cross. He showed us who he worships. And if that's not enough his dis respect for women is out of control. Danni & Megan etc
To be fair, Will Smith did something similar in the 80s in terms of HIV comments but at the end of the day, Da Baby is the cause of his own demise. It's sad cause he's mad talented.
Nice breakdown Justin. But there is more than a little group think happening here. It was ok knowing he killed someone and promoting death and destruction on wax but don't mention that crowd. Chappell covered this best.
DaBaby doubling down after that was the downfall. Even if it didn't happen, the videos and actual incidents where he just engages with people physically all the time would've caught up to him
The funny thing about his comments is that, whatever he actually meant, his hype man gave it away! His hype man took it like the rest of us. It was the worst situation to try to double down on.
Even when I know basically nothing about the particular subject of a video, it's always a great watch... that's the mark of a great channel on YT! TCM always dope.
Ok. So you gotta milk the game? Music distribution has changed drastically over the past 10 years, even more so around start of pandemic timeline. Yes, J. Cole didn't change his image or style over night. But there was an obvious level up with each released albums. Which is vital to growing and staying connected with your fan base/audience. DaBaby musical evolution is happening too slow to result in legendary status. Luckily he has been fortunate enough to capitalize on his successful albums he quickly and consecutively released in the past. Hopefully he is saving and investing his earnings wisely
He did a great job milking the game. He did a terrible job of the last part of his quote... "Go left with it." He went left on all his audiences (women, LGBTQ, and fans who liked the diversity of rap styles he used to show) Which was unfortunate to see.
This goes to show that sometimes you are your own worst adversary. That being said, good music heals everything! He has apologised, now he needs to get into the booth and rap his ass off. B on B2 is fine but fine won't be enough for a bounce back
I feel the same way being from the Carolina’s. He was doing too much after a while. He doesn’t grow from situations. Not appreciative to the people around him. I think Dani and Him messed up the work and real relationship. He threw Megan down the toilet for a wack feature from Tory. Dissed his gay fan base without knowing. He needs to mature and be accountable for His sake no funny shit. Too much controversy and people can’t take you serious. You’re unpredictable meaning….
He had a pretty funny Nardwuar interview. Nard kept pronouncing his name like "DAH Baybee" and at the end he started dressing up Nardwuar and posing with him while Nardwuar was doing his post-interview freeze frame. 9:27 Also, is the UA-cam demonetization algorithm so bad that you even have to censor the word "damn"? All I've got to say to that is.... damn! 😒
If Da Baby is as creative as he suggests, this is the time to pull out all the stops showing that facet of himself. Otherwise, he's looking like a lot of other artists in this long, long game who shortened their own stints by believing it couldn't happen to them.
Justin channelling maximum Disappointed Dad energy for this video. You ever be in the presence of someone being scolded and you start to feel bad? That's me right now.
😂😂😂
“That ain’t dababy. That’s crazy” 😂😂😂
It’s all happening
@@TheCompanyMan yes
DaBaby really fumbled DaBag, he could have easily been the go-to feature on pop songs if he just road the levitate wave and didn't say anything.
I see what you did there
Seriously! He could’ve been flo-Rida or pitbull!
The rise and fall of DaBaby is wild….and self inflicted. In my opinion, he felt invincible after he didn’t get charged for that Walmart murder, and all of the other times he’s put hands on folks. He let those words fly at Rolling Loud and doubled down days after, effectively putting 2 nails in his career’s coffin. The new album and the music video both exude desperation, and it’s a telling sign of what’s to come
BIGFAX. He’s dodged so many land mines that it’s easy to feel invincible. Great analysis. I mean think about the number of times he could’ve been in prison already. Yeezus.
Honestly if he got away with murder and assault why even be mad he said dumb shit?
I think in the past celebrities could do this in the name of all publicity is good publicity. Those times have changed though..
@@TheCompanyMan
He killed another black male and got away with it because nobody cares about black lives.
He made the mistake of attacking one of the most protected groups in society; the LGBTQIA Mafia.
You can't say anything complimentary or derogatory about the Jewish community and you can't say anything derogatory about the LGBTQIA Mafia.
But you can kill another black male and make a record bragging about it.
I think it was self defense in Walmart but idk 🤷🏻♂️
Controversy aside, I really feel like DaBaby has made the same mistake Fetty Wap made before him where he put out so many dope songs (that ultimately sound similar) in such a short time span that he oversaturated the market and now people are kinda burnt out.
That's possible. But on the other hand, listen to Baby on Baby and then go straight to listening to Baby on Baby 2. There is zero similarities between the two, except for the same, seemingly recycled beats. I'm a big fan of Dababy but this one I BARELY made it until the end. It's like he paid more attention to the visuals (which I LOVE! DON'T EVER STOP THAT) than the music. The album isn't fun, is what I'm trying to say. I went str8 back to Baby on Baby, Blank Blank & Kirk and was TURNT UP again Doh! #GetBackUpBaby! You got this! #BlankBlank #QueenCity #tha4 #704WeOutchea!!
Let’s hope he don’t end up in jail like fetty. Sadly I feel like dababy is tracking in that direction.
It’s so frustrating because dababy truly is talented. He just got stuck following instead of leading
Agree with this Yeti! I feel this is exactly what’s happened to Post Malone, I’d love to see Justin do a break down on “Rising too Fast, and the even fast fall down”
i say the same thing about King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard
Boom! Everyone is saying that his antics got him canceled. No, he never created a strong solid hard-core fan base and he oversaturated rhe maeket with too many hits too quickly turning him into a trend artist. Its like he doesnt know when to stop. Hip hop is NOTORIOUSLY homophobic and misogynistic since its inception. Had Lil Wayne said the same things Da Baby said then dropped an album with no promo it'd go platinum in a week.
Apologizing now a days just means public image repair. We all know he meant what he said, the only thing he is sorry for is for being cut from all those music festivals/collabs
This was a fire breakdown. I love the notes with direct reference to text. Real work!
Thank you!
I've never seen a man fight so hard to get cancelled. DaBaby's fall off will be studied in universities
Spectacular self sabotage!!!! Record breaking!! Goat level self sabotage
😂😂
He definitely sabotaged himself lol but that's not the main reason for his poor album sales.b
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Facts
I feel like dababy could comeback but you’re totally right he’s completely unaware of the situation he’s in and the way hes maneuvering around it makin it worse
I agree Alex. If makes a really honest emotive body of work, there’s hope on the horizon.
@Miles Prower he should watch dave chapelle
Another great breakdown Justin! We have seen great artists grow with their audiences (i.e. Scarface, Jay-Z, Nas, Kendrick) I think that when you exhibit a lack of maturity and an inability to grow, it increases the chances of your audience fading away.
Also, was wondering if next time you could touch on the relationship between the members of Little Brother since Big Pooh just said the group is only two members now
For real. The hills some people choose to die on... SMH never cease to mystify me.
I agree IZ. If you dont grow, you’re dead.
Good call on an LB piece. I’m long overdue and they’re one of my favorite groups.
How do you like the Pooh project?
@@TheCompanyMan Pooh still nice with that Pen!
I love the fact that you build up so many questions and your energy and then end it with I don’t have the answers to these questions, it’s like edging
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"That's a supremely asinine unforced error." 🤣🤣🤣🤣
It’s all happening
Dababy attracted "pop" fans more than anything. Those fans switch up just like that. Have a core fanbase, that's important, look at YB, Carti, Cole etc they have a core fanbase. Moreover, what Dababy said at Rolling Loud was really uncalled for.
BIGFAX. I don’t think he realized how pop he went. You’re correct, they switch up quick.
THIS is the main reason why he flopped, NOT his distasteful antics. YB could've said and did everything DaBaby said and did and he STILL would've sold over 100k albums with the exact same amount of promo DaBaby got. DaBaby was dependent on the passive listener and the causal Top 40 Hip Hop/Pop fan and their preferences can change every couple of years making that an unsustainable way to maintain a career.
It’s been 4yrs
1 flow
1 beat
For most of those 4yrs
We’re tired
Too much truth
That’s what I thought. But I don’t listen.
The same reason they hate him is the same reason they loved him. He speaks his mind and he's transparent. He just directed his transparency to his thriving audience. When keeping it real goes wrong.
You popped up on my suggested and I love your delivery. Some of your comments made me laugh 😂 I stopped listening to DaBaby after the Kirk album; all the songs sounded the same. And if I’m not mistaken, this was around the time he slapped a fan at a concert and was constantly in the news for foolishness. I think it started to smell himself with how fast he became popular. He got too comfortable too early. He tarnished his own career.
Thank you Anesha! I appreciate you checking it out. You know, it’s easy to not be an asshole. Dababy struggles with that.
"How are you turning up when the ladies don't love you?" What a damn good point/question. I haven't given Da Baby a listen, I believe he can bounce back from this temporary downfall. Right now he's young and young men mess sometimes but there's a lot of time to grow and mature....... Fall off the face of the earth.
I mean, r Kelly and Chris brown did much crazier things in my opinion and they still sold a lot of records. There’s hope for dababy but he’s got to start with himself.
@@TheCompanyMan 100% Facts.
He lost my support with how he did Dani. The Megan clout chase was just sad.
Do y’all know someone in your circle, work or family member who feels the need to be right even when they’re wrong? They will call every body they know to state their case, until they get 1 crazies or 2 to side with them so they can keep doubling down on their dumb sht🤔 That’s Dababy 🤦🏽♂️
I hate that that energy is so pervasive in this era. Even major media personalities and broad public figures have this energy as if accountability is weakness. Feels like a product of late stage capitalism.
Ay appreciate the shout-out for the support. Happy to do it. This is amazing content.
Great video as always, man. Can't wait to see what's next.
You’re legend, Jim! Thank you sincerely 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
It’s not the fact he’s going out sad, he just doesn’t have developmental progress. He’s been one dimensional since his second album. He was declining before Rolling Loud. Let’s keep it real, he’s always been a street nigga. Always. Rolling Loud was just the straw that broke the camels back. And the fact that he didn’t do damage control sooner is what really hurt him. Same thing happened with Tim Hardaway. But real talk, Dababy is trying to keep his buoy afloat……. This Meg thing is for a shock value thing. (See your video “Game Going Out Sad”). Great video my guy!!! I messaged you on IG, hopefully we can chop it up soon!!!!!! Great video again.
PS- That last pic………….YEEZSUS!!!!!!
Thank you Daniel! I’ll check IG.
This man went from a top 5 current rapper to being pressed on the socials by Bennie & The Jets (that’s Elton John for you youngins) to clout chasing using Megan TheeStallion name…damn, just damn. Why folks like to set they money on fire DaJoker🤦🏾♂️ Perfect video again, Mr. Hunte. Can’t wait to see what the next video will be.
I may be bias since I'm a gay man myself, but yeah, these days you gotta have women and gays on your side or at least leave them alone and be neutral, women as a whole are the holders of money around the world and make the majority of all purchases so just from that alone means most businesses should cater to women simply out of having more chances for profit. Together with the fact women dominate pop music, which most rappers use as a bridge to have more listeners and expand their market, female artists are more out going with experimenting with genres as well from my personal opinion, whenever i think of alternative or experimental music i think of many female or women identified artists, gay male artist's...and that's it, there's pronaly a lot of cishet male experimental or alternative artists out there, but the most influential and even the ones who get on charts are women(Bjork, Kate Bush, Fionna Apple) and the ones who leave impressions on the industry as well. Kanye himself had one of his albums mostly produced by a Venezuelan Transgender music producer Arca, so a lot of rappers are taking inspo from LGBT people by proxy. Ain't no one more interested in music, in revolutionizing and changing what can't or be made then the gays and women if you ask me. So mistreating any of them is career suicide unless you are extremely niche.
Awesome analysis. You absolutely nailed it. It’s crazy to think you can be a pop star without women and the lgbtq community. Thank you for the perspective.
Let's not forget that he also literally murdered somebody and got away with it. I think that shit boosted up his head and made him feel like he was unstoppable tbh. Then the shit of him punching out that woman. That was the beginning of the end for me cus you could see he wasn't used to having to take accountability and still isn't
Your right that gased him up
You’re entertaining asf 😂 this was awesome!!
Thank you!! 😁
shoutouts from Australia man. Great videos as always
I just discovered you channel because of the kanye west incident (if you can call it that), it shows that you love Hip Hop and all you want is for the community to grow and apprecciate the art behind it.
This (and all your breakdowns) take a lot of effort, and you always deliver great content, gained a sub.
Also I liked some of the earlier DaBaby's verses but the new bars are kind of weak imo.
Justin, you got some official merch? I need to be supporting you man.. great work as usual.
glad to see you're back at it!
Thank you!
Justin, I love these videos, I've been watching your Breakdowns since the HipHopDX days. If I can make one bit of constructive criticism it's the theme music always seems to come in a bit too loud compared to the rest of the video. Otherwise, great stuff as usual sir.
Thanks Jack! I’ll work on that for next wreck. I appreciate you rocking with me
I haven’t watched the actual music video but watching your breakdown is hilarious 😂
Thanks Scooby! 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
Another great TBD, Justin. Keep them coming. Would love to see another goat piece too
Thanks Fernando! It is about that time, isn’t it. Who do you think I should do next?
@@TheCompanyMan Damn there's a lot of good options. Lupe would be the most obvious rn. Common's longevity I think gets overlooked too. But also I think it's time for a female GOAT piece. It's been a while since the Lauryn Hill one
Awesome as always my brotha, I apreciate your work and point of view it’s tefreshing to hear.
Thank you Maximus!
“Big misunderstanding”.
Yeah, on _his_ part. He doesn’t understand how being gay works, and he also doesn’t understand that what he said can’t just be brushed away as some type of accident or bent in any type of way to make it okay. Its fucking straight up hate speech and was very deliberate.
I love the way you articulated your "drag". So classy 🔥👋🏽
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It's frustrating being a Dababy fan. He has made music that I undeniably love, but it feels like music from an argumentative kid bully right now, and I feel silly waiting for the maturation of an artist named Dababy.
Fantastic Breakdown. And also hilarious with great timing. Congrats on perfecting your craft. Also.. DaBaby record sales were mostly streaming so at some point it seems the same streaming services are just not playing his records. He was riding a huge wave at the top and I still find it amazing what someone can un-accomplish in one or two sentences, but then again, there was always Marie Antoinette 🤷🏾♂️
Yo… that so true. Amazing what someone can un-accomplish. Big BIGFAX. so much of that in the zeitgeist right now. What do you think dababy needs to do to bouncback?
@@TheCompanyMan Can he bounce back? Can he do a pro-lgbt apology tour like Kevin Hart did? Can he sign gay artists and donate to causes? Would that alienate his previous audience? Can Marie Antoinette get her back? I don’t have the answer to these questions Justin. Lol.
Da Baby went Da ignant 😂
Dave Chappelle talked about this almost 20 years ago: "When 'keeping it real' goes wrong...".
I'm a Carolina native as well and I was excited to have another artist from the area to make it (a lot of them don't break through from around here); but he wore down for me surprisingly quickly. I haye he steadily lessened his rise by making "not giving a fuck" the selling point of his brand, versus what made him popular. He looked at his career trajectory in a singular manner. Music is what keeps the fans entertained but that alone isn't why we gravitate to an artist. How he made his music and what he discussed in it is what brought us there. Instead of making all that the brand; he chose turn up as his primary music avenue and ignorant stances for controversy and attention. All publicity IS NOT good publicity.
Great analysis, AK. I appreciate it. I believe dababy has it in him creatively. Let’s see what he does next.
@@TheCompanyMan He has the talent most definitely. It's all a matter of whether or not he's willing to humble himself enough to realize his flaws in his actions, as well as his missteps musically. The quote you pulled for the breakdown gave his game away. His music mentality in that interview is the case study on why French Montana can have platinum songs and also be completely irrelevant to Rap as a whole. Riding a wave with little variation will make you money if done well enough; but it doesn't breed longevity (EVEN if that's your own wave).
Excited to see you in my home feed again. For some reason YT wasnt putting you there for like a year until recently I manually looked you up again on a whim and caught up with all the videos I had missed. Great vid as usual.
If you're reading this, subscribe and hit that damn bell, y'all
Hey mate love the videos! I never really knew much about dababy during his peak, but from 5:00 onwards is almost too ridiculous to handle
DaBaby is hell bent on being the tough guy, that lack of self awareness is vital
Right! This ain’t 2003 and he ain’t 50 cent. Gotta diversify.
@@TheCompanyMan facts Justin, on a serious note it’s great to have you bike now lol
Congratulations On 100k🎉🎈
Thank you!!
Personally I think people saying Dababy isnt "popping" while still talking about him is a bit weird. I think the real conversation is did Da Baby lose to Lil Baby? I think all the things he did could be forgotten with a huge hit BUT did Lil Baby put him to sleep.
I went to a lil baby show in Greenville the other week. It was like a religious experience. That crowd loves him. Plus he has a protest song! THE protest song of 2020. Hes surprised even me.
I do like DaBaby and I understand with him to say, he’s talking about people really no matter what your sexuality is being junkies and performing oral sex for dope. But the way it came out I think it came out really bad. That’s just something that he probably should not have said because when you make a comment that needs to be explained in that kind of detail it’s better just to not see the comment because it can be taken as offensive.
I’ve seen a lot of people saying that there’s a conspiracy against him from the music industry like “ the man” is behind the scenes pushing buttons and pulling levers to make sure he doesn’t make it now. Look I’m not saying there aren’t real conspiracies out in the world but we live in a day where anytime something happens that people don’t like it’s written off as a conspiracy and it’s getting a bit old.
The problem with making everything a conspiracy is that it’s easier for the real conspiracies to hide. Let’s say there’s one real conspiracy out there but so many people are tired of getting told that everything that happens is a conspiracy that they just don’t believe it anymore. I think what happened to DaBaby is a mix of two things. The first thing is probably the most obvious that there are a lot of people that have said they’re not fucking with him anymore because of his statement. I think the other thing is it’s his fourth album. His fourth main stream album. Hip-hop has never really been very kind to artists that are no longer new artist but now I think it’s worse than ever.
You look at everything that went down with DJ Akademiks that’s kind of it on a bigger picture. Hip-hop doesn’t respect it’s history it used to be we didn’t respect what happened 15 years ago, then 10 years ago, now if you’ve been out for five years you’re “old and wack”. I love Kendrick Lamar’s last album, I don’t think it’s as good as the first three but I still think it’s brilliant work but it’s not being held up by the world as his other albums were. Kendricks a veteran now. I think DaBaby on top of dealing with his comments is also dealing with just not being the brand new shiny toy that everyone likes anymore.
Your channel and "Company Man" both started May of 2017. Wow! New subby
Welcome aboard!
Congrats to 100k 🎊
Thank you 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
Dababy's fall needs to be studied. I was telling my groupchat that had he not turned the women against him he'd have been fine over time. Everytime he got in trouble or involved with some BS they continued supporting him to platinum albums. They largely didn't mind his style being so simple and overused. He made fun music. It's funny to me that his audience is the exact same as Meg's and he ran them all away for absolutely no reason. Could have gotten at least 4-5 more years at the top.
Great breakdown sir 🫡
By the way, Billy Woods released another album. This man deserves a breakdown
Yo! I like athieopes a lot. Trippy listen. How’s his new project?
@@TheCompanyMan just one song in 😅 but it sounds like a classic woods album so I'm excited to hear some more
Best going out sad yet honestly. Shit was succinct no time wasted, left no bullets in the clip. This man does the best research.
Lot of ink circles and underlines on the paper this week! DaBaby def had a strong start, but you are right he has stayed very comfortable in that turn-up vibe. I think he has more to offer, but I am unsure he has left himself room to do so at this junctor. As you pointed out he has potentially alienated more than 50% of the audience. Women and LGBTQ. While we have of course seen artists make amends and come back from such missteps in the past, I can't recall one ever doing it while continuing to ignore the root cause of the issue. He might be able to take some time, let the public sentiment soften, allow a few news cycles put space between him and his words, and then come back to new admiration, but it's unclear if he, or people in his camp are willing to go that route. And if you don't have the answer to those questions, I certainly do not.
One thing I think works against him is how many massive hits he has already. He’ll be able to tour in the future and lean on legacy streams and when people have that kind of security blanket, it’s easy to stay locked in the same perspective. Thanks for the analysis Dana.
Gay boys are sitting around turning up to Da Baby and Da Baby isn't the first person to kiss and tell. While these things have added towards the feelings of disdain for Da Baby they're not why he flopped 1st week.
Karma for the full disrespect of his child's Mom. That made my skin crawl. The man is guilty and acting out.
The only person I can think of that was a big star with not so much support from LGBTQ+ community and women was Eminem after the Marshal Mathers LP. Wonder why he was able to stay a big star after all of that? Was is the Elton John performance at the Grammys? Is that what DaBaby needs to do to save him? Or was it for another reason? 🧐
Good point
It’s mostly just cause his musical output has been declining for a minute. He’s a lame
Your a great storyteller!
Thank you!
The zesty community ain’t cancelling no one FOH 😂😂😂
Midnight marauders is my fave album 😍
Incredible incredible album
Random, but you having a statik selektah outro is so fitting. I adore it.
On DaMatterathand, I am pleasantly unsurprised to learn that he has older projects out that showcase great rapping. His recent repetitive style doesn't sound like any of the first 100 flows a young MC would spit.
With that being acknowledged, his recent music is not interesting to me and I am not fond of his content. His decrease is very sharp and odd to see. I hope he drops said J Cole ass project outta nowhere after he does whatever he needs for himself.
The Meghan line is pathetic.
Fire video. Stay healthy. May god be with you.
Thanks YB. Statik blessed me with that. He’s a great guy.
Honestly, I can’t even imagine dababy dropping a conscious record at this point. I know he can do it. I just have no clue what it would sound like. Thanks for the analysis.
Dababy went Da ignorant lmao…CLASSIC!
I wonder what he saw in that Rolling Loud parking lot? 🤣🤣🤣
I’m actually a fan of dababy’s sound but only having one flow and being more known for your antics than your bars is a nasty combo
Them lyrics is crazyyyyy😭
Right!!!! Yeezus.
Loving this glut of videos
Thank you!
Great breakdown, Justin! I have been getting a better understanding of the hip hop industry because of your well articulated and very thorough videos! Keep up the great work and congrats on 100k!
great vid. youre one of the best doing it fr. curious what you think of his "my brothers keeper" ep? personally i was so blown away by that shit. i really feel like if he could combine that kind of intense vulnerability with his high level of skill and put it into a full length project he could release truly a classic album. ,,but these days idk, it just seems like hes backing himself into a corner that he wont get out of. but yea curious if you also saw something special in that ep?
Thanks Max! I think he'll have to do more of that going forward. I liked the tape. He's shown at times he can get personal and it come out dope. Kirk's got a few moments like that. Baby on Baby 2 has a joint or two at the end. His sound will need to evolve and he'll need to stay away from controversy. But it's in his wheel house.
1st rule to fight against cancellation "You apologize, YOU LOOSE"
FD Signifier said something I liked in one of his recent interviews: (paraphrased) “the only people Dababy hurt with his 2021 outburst were his own fans and himself. Because there are zero straight heterosexual men going around bumping Dababy, or who are ride-or-die for Dababy”
I really dont think he can recover from this. After the rolling loud shit, he couldve saved it but chose to double down on it. Its just embarrassing to see his downfall
And it also sucks cause bro can rap! Hes repetitive yes, but he can rap! And he ruined his own bag!!
@@WaxPanels that’s the thing about it, dababy has a ton of talent. He’s not one of these artists that has to lean into antics. He could just rap great and everything would be ok. I can’t wait for him to stop punching himself in the face. Thanks Ethan!
@@TheCompanyMan thankyou bro! Videos get better every week!
His comments turned everybody against him ? Not everyone; only the ppl who living a certain way
That and the people who quick to throw up pitchforks behind the next big thing. Look at Ukraine. Whities lining up left and right with bleeding hearts-some of 'em volunteering to go fight...and get they gung-ho asses blew the fuck up.
"when you got something going you would be a fool to step on your own toes and to left with it" isn't that what he did with Meg tho.... Both of them were gold together and him linking with Tory completely ruined that bag.
Exactly. He went left in a different way. He kept making the same songs afraid of going left, but instead went left on his lgbtq fans and women audience. That’s the irony of all of this.
Kanye West has done worse and said worse to be cancelled but somehow he is still one of the biggest artists in the world because the music is all that matters afterall. Dababy just makes trash ass music that all, him flopping had nothing to do with rolling loud and all that other controversial shit.
Thanks CP. great great point.
To be fair a lot of kanyes comments in recent years have been making derisive comments about black people.
I'm sure a big part of why he hasn't been jettisoned is because he's black himself, but the rest of it is because too much of the US agrees with a lot of the ridiculous things he says about black people and the black community. Just look at his new companions following his most recent controversy.
“Call to action x2” … *draws circle on the table*
He just seems cruel. Even to the mother of his child. And what did Meg even do to warrant his multiple jabs at her? I'm not sure if he'll ever get the career he had back. I think he'll end up like Boosie, he's got his audience, but his personality makes mainstream success going forward unlikely, just IMO
Never liked dude, not a fan of these new emcees. I wouldn't be surprised if he was talking about himself. Dude is delusional to think his career would be intact after saying that.
I think the final nail on his career was filming Dani late at night when they were fighting and tried to kick her and his new baby out of the house. And then he has the nerve to say "stay out of our business". No you invited everyone into your business when you livestreamed... On top of every other mess he's gotten himself into.
I honestly stopped listening to his music after the Rolling Loud comments. Why would I wanna go to a concert and hear hateful remarks about other groups? Just play the damn song
Was it hateful though? He literally said "make some noise" to celebrate the audience
@@llc8508 lol did you even watch the video? That's nowhere near what he said
@@MultiMillyon I did... people FOUND the offense in what he said. He didn't spew out any derogatory terms.
We Jesus lover's black balled him. When he mocked Jesus hanging on the cross. He showed us who he worships. And if that's not enough his dis respect for women is out of control. Danni & Megan etc
NEVER APOLOGIZE. KEEP IT MOVIN
THE TRUTH STINGS
NC REPRESENT! DABABY WE LOVE YOU KEEP PUTTIN ON FOR US
In Western entertainment YOU ABSOLUTELY can’t pop without women approval to the crossover heights
Great video.
To be fair, Will Smith did something similar in the 80s in terms of HIV comments but at the end of the day, Da Baby is the cause of his own demise. It's sad cause he's mad talented.
Exactly. I mean, there are tons of artists who ducked up. He can recover but the music has to be there. And right now it ain’t.
You forgot to add that he promised to donate money to GLAAD & the other charities he promised to donate money too after his apology
Yes. Thank you NMJ. You are correct. Thank you.
Justin I see you’re on PS5, respect. Another great video too!
Nice breakdown Justin. But there is more than a little group think happening here. It was ok knowing he killed someone and promoting death and destruction on wax but don't mention that crowd. Chappell covered this best.
Thanks for the comment Marco 🙏🏿
DaBaby doubling down after that was the downfall. Even if it didn't happen, the videos and actual incidents where he just engages with people physically all the time would've caught up to him
The funny thing about his comments is that, whatever he actually meant, his hype man gave it away! His hype man took it like the rest of us. It was the worst situation to try to double down on.
This is the type of man voice and delivery I like.
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Even when I know basically nothing about the particular subject of a video, it's always a great watch... that's the mark of a great channel on YT! TCM always dope.
That’s an awesome compliment Jimmy. Thank you for that. 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
Ok. So you gotta milk the game? Music distribution has changed drastically over the past 10 years, even more so around start of pandemic timeline.
Yes, J. Cole didn't change his image or style over night. But there was an obvious level up with each released albums. Which is vital to growing and staying connected with your fan base/audience. DaBaby musical evolution is happening too slow to result in legendary status. Luckily he has been fortunate enough to capitalize on his successful albums he quickly and consecutively released in the past. Hopefully he is saving and investing his earnings wisely
He did a great job milking the game. He did a terrible job of the last part of his quote... "Go left with it." He went left on all his audiences (women, LGBTQ, and fans who liked the diversity of rap styles he used to show) Which was unfortunate to see.
DaBaby went the DaIgnant 😭😭😭😭
Justin cold wit it mane, I lost it.
that music video is sooo good it should win an award...
Justin, you be having all the answers to all them questions. But I like that shit so I won’t say, ‘Stop It’😂😂😂😂
Yo did he say David Goggins at the end there??
Yep
This goes to show that sometimes you are your own worst adversary. That being said, good music heals everything! He has apologised, now he needs to get into the booth and rap his ass off. B on B2 is fine but fine won't be enough for a bounce back
Never apologize.
WORST advice EVER. And that only works if you're MAGA. 🤯😱🤢🤮
Just because you silenced a group of people doesn’t mean you changed their minds remember that.
Alot of the B level artists go thru a corny phase, it’s either a strong come back or a fall off.
This would’ve been the perfect time to show evolution. Come with something unexpected.
I feel the same way being from the Carolina’s. He was doing too much after a while. He doesn’t grow from situations. Not appreciative to the people around him. I think Dani and Him messed up the work and real relationship. He threw Megan down the toilet for a wack feature from Tory. Dissed his gay fan base without knowing. He needs to mature and be accountable for His sake no funny shit. Too much controversy and people can’t take you serious. You’re unpredictable meaning….
Too much truth. Thanks for the analysis c dot. Is it fair to say he went “hollywood?”
He had a pretty funny Nardwuar interview. Nard kept pronouncing his name like "DAH Baybee" and at the end he started dressing up Nardwuar and posing with him while Nardwuar was doing his post-interview freeze frame.
9:27 Also, is the UA-cam demonetization algorithm so bad that you even have to censor the word "damn"? All I've got to say to that is.... damn! 😒
I gotta check the nardwuar interview. That guys a legend.
Best breakdown I've seen on why DaBaby is sinking like a brick in water. Excellent diagnosis. Tactician.
If Da Baby is as creative as he suggests, this is the time to pull out all the stops showing that facet of himself. Otherwise, he's looking like a lot of other artists in this long, long game who shortened their own stints by believing it couldn't happen to them.