300 CS at 25 Minutes??? CHOVY LANING is like NOTHING YOU'VE SEEN BEFORE!
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What other streamer do you guys know that listens to beethoven while having perfect cs? Absolute chad
He actually was hoping to get 300 cs before 25 just as we were LOL
It’s just incredible is it not?
man he really plays like he is an AI. like he just makes the best decisions to achieve a win or lead with such efficiency
I get the point and its right, but in league people usually say others are AI's to flame them lmao
@@gaximun Obviously that isnt how he meant it
lmaoo
@@gaximun Yeah Coop vs AI is a beginner's mode for a reason
He makes the best decision to achieve a lead over the enemy mid, however this isn't the way to win. In this game it works out because his team is able to pretty much begin winning the game while he shoves a wave, but in games where his team is in a more detrimental spot and need the mid laners help, it won't cut it for him to split like he is.
Chovy’s play style is surprisingly relaxing to watch. No high tension plays or coin flip roams. Just farm and kill when it counts.
exactly
@@michaelkouvarakis3504 exactly
Exactly
At 25 minutes, reaching 100 cs for me makes my day
"At 25 minutes, reaching 100 souls, for me, makes my day"
- Senna
how? you play support or something?
@@eVill420 Heard of iron 4?
in case you care about improving: 1) go into a custom game just by yourself and practice last hitting minions. 2) in game sweat less about the one missed minion and instead focus on the waves in general (you might want to check out some yt guides on wave management for this). 3) Don’t worry. In your average low mmr game there will be way more skirmishes, therefore it will be waaay more difficult if not impossible to achieve perfect cs. Having 200 cs at 30 minutes isn’t that bad if you are 11/5/9.
@@MauriceGucci Unless you're really new to the game, playing custom just to practice last hitting minions will hardly improve your cs. In a real game you will need to think about trades or ganks and not just the minions. I agree on the wave management part tho
His play is so insanely clean.
but his flash at 9:02 wasnt clean at all
Well, in diamond he'll lose for sure
@@mehdizizi1433 that's why he's in challanger 🤣
@@2cfreshbej430 not sure if he screwed up the flash or was actually just super smart and used it to proc the Nimbus Cloak while staying out of Sylas W range to chase him down.
@@Shadow-ashlad i think that he could just aa him to death there, eventually flash after him- this flash wasn’t necessary
plot twist: he actually doesnt care about winning he just wants to get the most amount of cs as quick as possible
If you Blink, Chovy CS will jump to 1-100
I learnt Chovy is a beast, and still think about that game between you and FAKER when he went SINGED.
do you have a link?
@@JohnSmith0010 thanks buddy!
Alternative title : the church of chovy hits the glorious evolution.
Bob?
"Hopefully, youu have learnt something from this game guys"
Yes that Chovy is an AI robot programmed to play perfectly. And thats coming from a master tier midlane player.
While there is a high variance in how good master tier midlane players are, there is a bigger difference between Chovy and a master tier mid than between a master tier mid and a plat mid on average.
Imagine reaching Masters, just to realize how bad you are in comparison to this guy. Depression.
Do you play Leblanc?
@@TonKcedua there literally isnt. the small differences are what are capitalized and that people like chovy are not going lose their lead. a plat is always going to go 0/20 against a master player. the same isnt valid vice versa
@@youngcitybandit between a bottom plat 4 player and a master player 800 LP.
And between a bottom Master player and any 1000+ LP challenger player is 1000+ LP, so Yes the difference between master and challenger is a lot bigger than a master and a plat 4 player, and Trust me not all plat players are going 0/20 against a master player in fact only a handful who I would say boosted or in a bad day can go 0/20.
What I want to say is a master player while ofc better than any plat player has a bigger change of losing against him than to lose vs a challenger player
the first wave arrives at 1min 30 into the game
a wave arrives every 30s
a canon arrives every 1.5 min
if u do the maths u realize that if u don't miss any cs u can get around 107cs at 10min meaning that if u want 10 cs per min u can't miss more than 7 cs
This only counts for the first 10 minutes right?
@@dominiklieser7341 yeah, for the first 10 mins it would be correct. After 15 minutes a cannon minion arrives every second wave and after 25 minutes every wave has a cannon minion, so you would have to adjust the mathematics a bit for the gold per wave.
@@dominiklieser7341 yeah I wrote at 10min and not in 10min it only works for the beginning
edit : oh yeah i didn't realize i forgot to say that it's 100 cs at 10min and not 10cs per min... it was because midbeast was wondering if it was really possible to have the ammount of cs chovy had at 10min in this game with only farming mid waves
@@FakeNewsMonthly is your name a reference to bottom tier ? (i'm curious)
Pretty sure i have lost 7minions n the first 2 waves
9:00 Chovy flashed on spot btw XD
auto attack reset
That's a spectator bug he didn't flash on spot.
bug, he flashed on top of sylas.
replay bug
CHOVY VIKTOR HACK？英雄联盟 300 CS 25 MIN
Scrolled down wayyyy to far to see this lol
@@brandohall5116 same i just scroll the comment sect just to see this comment lol
I was literally searching for this comment
It's just baffling how in early game he looks like he has infinite mana and holds his back until he has enough gold for 7 items already
when Chovy plays I feel like the game moves differently
Chovy's teammates: Where's Viktor???!!!
Chovy mid teamfight: Oh a ward, Wait, just let me get this cannon...
🗿
11:16 when Shelly steals ur cannon ...
Chovy ragequits...
Mid beast all you do is make people first time tf and qiyana in my games
It's true. I was the TF
Is it me or did he flash on the spot for that solo kill @ 9:02
Animation cancel
Spectator bug
I can't even cs this good vs no one in lane so how the hell do you manage to cs perfect vs people that literally tries to deny as much cs as possible.
Please Zoe/Orianna/Syndra next
"Hopefully you have learned something from the"
Yeah I learned that i suck at CS lol. Besides, you say he was "hogging the resources" but all his lanes were pretty equivalent in farm to their opponents. As far as I'm concerned this is black magic fuckery lol
Definitely “hogging the resources” was not the appropriate term used. Just purely efficient pathing and macro by chovy
@@rayfeng8890 yeah, I mean if other players were capable of farming as well as Chovy then he'd have been hogging, but mostly he just vacuums up all the farm nobody else was ever gonna get!
Finally some control mages, Orianna vod next??
They're mad boring
Amjad Hugot Tahir Yeah, if you don’t like using your brain and are only turned on by “flashy” assassin plays that, to be honest, look a lot harder than they are, then sure, control mages are boring
who are considered control mages?
@@zustss I think mostly mages that can zone and "control" team fights, such as Orianna, Xerath, Velkoz, Viktor, Anivia etc
@@metroidfoosion73 I didn't say they're easy. They're super boring to watch. Yes they're hard to play and easy to punish, but they're boring to watch
I feel like Chovy's gameplay in this VOD really symbolizes the Korean style of slow, controlled gameplay that's focused on farm and only fighting in really specific situations. It can be effective at these high elos I guess but extremely annoying in solo q when one player constantly just solo farms all game and leaves his team undermanned in team fights.
Exactly my POV. It is a bit of a gamble. You could roam and help team, get kills and possibly an objective, or you can safely make that skrilla in lane. I choose to help more often than not because I don't want to tilt my team.
9:02 wtf is that flash
probably spectator bug, he flashed forward but spectator shows him walking instead
I assume he flashed on the spot instead flashing into sylas w range and in order to get the movement speed from nimbus cloak to close the distance
@@yunsee6432 i thought the same thing but its just weird
@@yunsee6432 just spectator bug, he doesn't have nimbus cloak
More Chovy please!
he plays perfect but kinda boring honestly, I want to see other player more
@@minhtrinh7440 But we can actually learn from him and emulate what he does, unlike the qiyana onetrick for example.
I'd love to see this matchup again but having chovy play sylas.
If kai'sa and Aatrox were pushing a lane instead of chasing sylas for a kill perhaps Chovy doesn't get rotated on.
i really wish chovy go to big teams with this unimaginable champ pool, perfect cs lead everygame and effective every min of game, hey geng TAKE THIS GUY
maybe he needs a team that focuses around him just like the old skt, they focus around faker if im not mistaken.
Your wish has come true
It's so hard to have this playstyle in SoloQ, I tried often but the team just tilts and ping spams
caps has a very low lane proximity you have to take that in to account when were talking average cs
This is literally my game style but its just im plat so my team always run it down even tho im not with them and gives enemy the lead that makes my farming useless 😂
I’ve gotta watch more chovy. I’ve always preferred the “chill out, go with the flow, take the resources as they come” playstyle instead of the “coin flip a fight every 2 seconds and hope you get fed” playstyle. The ladder is so much more stressful and all around less fun for me.
Midbeast I was wondering why not do a vod review of the highest lp midlaner on every server and compare them and evaluate how they play differently
It’s insane that with one solo kill Chovy ran an absolute mid KINGDOM this game. Really cool and informative to watch. Thanks Drew.
9:00 how u just gonna ignore that he flashes in place like that??
it is a well known spectator bug
Replay bug
Chovy is the most fun to watch rn, he's clean beyond belief
That urgot is actually a pro player too. Albeit unknown since he's actually from DFM
Ofc chovy is looking for perfection, he is playing viktor that game
Damn, I've been popping my biscuits at high hp/mana, never noticed it was based on %missing. Wondered why they felt so weak sometimes
Chovy went to the school of froggen. 300 at 20 mins I swear
chovy plays like the game is supposed to be played. midlane kingdom instead of perma roaming and hoping to get carried
Perma roaming and hopeing to get carried are two different worlds
You can’t be above diamond4 51% wr with this type of comment
@@mihajlopetrovic7939 sacrificing your own lane to help others is a desperation play where you believe in others to carry you delusional low elo scrub
@@Shleder Sometimes you are not able to lane cuz you are in counter mach up and the you try ur best to cs well and help other as much as you can insted of dying back to back in ur lane for no resson...you are probably gold or plat, u gotta learn and grow to call me like that :)
@@mihajlopetrovic7939 Dying once or twice in your lane doesn't keep you from farming. Playing a match up you can't win doesn't justify neglecting your farm. You can always farm and that's a fact. You can even farm against stuff like Lucian mid. And if you are playing against match ups you can't win you shouldn't be able to leave your lane in the first place. Trizilion is right here. Farm > roam. The only reason you roam is when you can't farm because you just cleared the lane or your lane is slow pushed and shoved in the first place.
he has literally 0 wasted movement during lane phase. he barely wiggles at all he just stares the enemy down and beats them up
Hope chovy will go to a good team soon, he deserves so much
Am i the only one who noticed that flash at 9:11 lol
he is farming like a madman
1:12 he even trying to creep block dayum
9:02 Greatest flash in the history of league of legends
Honestly after watching the previous Chovy review I went from 4cs/m to 8cs/m average in my silver games xd
Chovy Vs that Qiyana Player soon? :D
10 plates before 14 minutes in addition to that farm lead lol
when he got collapsed on 15 min , I got flashback from game 2 vs dk Sadge
in the end chovy is a lonely god on the rift :(
The angle's thing. If your team knows you are farming and still decides to 4v5 then it's on them.
@midbeast , you should quickly show the damage and gold chart afterwards at the end.
But have you guys ever seen the DoinB 300 cs 20 min hack???
400 cs*
he was farming the enemy and his mate jungle camps as ryze unlike chovy , he's not perma stealing all his jungler's resources
he got almost 3 k gold and 3 levels ahead at 14 minutes against sylas what a beast 13:30
In low elos that playstyle is more coinflip than "coinflip" roams
Nah, it's not even coinflip. It's just a straight loss cuz your team is going to either feed more gold than you can farm or rage quit after your laner coinflip roams on vision and gets a free double kill.
@@markovchainz8314
you're both bad and wrong
@@Bebolife12345 Nice argument backed up with lots of facts and logic lmfao.
@@markovchainz8314
yes facts and logic being the operative words I'd use to quantify the description of how bad you both are.
@@Bebolife12345 Yeah, and the operative words to describe the way you debate are "brick" and "wall." As in "dumb as a brick" and "like talking to a wall." You literally have said nothing substantial yet.
i couldnt imagine playing every single game i play like this, id genuinely be sleeping this shit looks so boring
Chovy in JDG and that would be like the perfect team... okay, maybe pluse some talented LDL adc
I’m obviously no Chovy, but I 100% guarantee my 4 teammates ff right before the win after they got “aced” without me there.
can you manipulate minions enough to slow them down or make them appear later than they are supposed to, you know when you walk into a minion trying to change its path, can u maniipulate anything there ?
mans flashed in place at 8:59 lmao
he doesnt want to flash foward cuz sylas will have range for W, he flashes in place to get the movement speed increase from nimbus cloak, which allows him to bait the sylas and kill him without giving sylas the chance of getting HP back
@@iBeStrong1038 no its a spectator bug, he just flashed forward
do you think you will ever vod review other roles like adc, would love to see someone like teddy or gumayusi
The most impressive about his CS that in the first wave he hit only 5 of 6 CS, and still able to farm like this...
Chovy flashed in place, I saw midbeast cringe at that xD
Shame we dont get to see that man on MSI
Same with T1
We'll have to be patient and wait for worlds.
Why?
@@kakashihatakecopyninja3685 only the best team of each region can go to msi. In lck, only DK Or GenG haven’t lost yet
"Chovy is the best CS'er in the world" *Misses the 3rd creep on the 1st wave*
Chovy starts the game interfering with his minions. This isn't an accident, is it?
No it's not. Interfering with his minions keeps them on his side of the lane, meaning they'll start attacking the enemy wave first which allows him to shove the first wave much more easily
I love how he joins the fighting at the end and every fight is just over before it starts 😂 you can’t fight against that
Ok but like that sylas was win trading bad choice of game lol
DOINB 400CS at 24 minutes Ryze hack?????
Chovy : 300cs 25min
Doinb : WTF 400 CS 24 MIN RYZE HACK ???!!!!
Becoz thats ryze
Managed to get myself 300cs in under 25 mins while also getting kills. Cool challenge to try
Still won't get u rank 1 in soloq, roams are way too strong rn!
I guess CSing has a two side effect. Removing allied minions from the game gives the enemy minions a higher value, so the siege minion you denied + the siege minion you farmed = 2 siege minions for you.
no, the siege minion u denied + the siege minion you farmed = 1 siege minion advantage. Your example would be if they lose gold, they don't lose it they just stay neutral. +100g to you and denying 100 gold from enemy ≠ +200g, it = 100.
As Sun Tzu once said "Hence a wise general makes a point of foraging on the enemy. One cartload of the enemy's provisions is equivalent to twenty of one's own, and likewise a single picul of his provender is equivalent to twenty from one's own store." This is true because you are taking resources away from them, so its of negative capacity. Where in league it is not. Another way to think about it is if you and a friend both have an apple and you take your friend's apple, you now have 2 apples to satiate your hunger instead of the 1 you previously had.
I only managed to do it 4 times in a row but I some how got second item at 13 minutes on average
As viktor when your pushing, how do you guys push a wave for the fastest push with E augment? at 17:06 for example, He AA the first melee, Qs the second one then Empowered AA the cannon and gets E off to 4 minions. Im just curious as to how in depth should the thought process go. I for example might Q AA the first melee and try to hit all 7 minions with E, then deal with the 2 melees in front last.
More chovy content please!!
DoinB 400 CS 24 min >>> Chovy 300 CS 25 min
If we're comparing just laning, Chovy>Showmaker. As for playmaking and teamfights, I'm not really sure because Chovy's team is not on the same level as Damwon.
Just gives me confidence to keep getting better at my macro, casing and splitting, time to get from 8-10
Did he flash in place at 9:02 to proc phase rush?
Nah common spectator bug
9:02 Ah yes, he flashed in place to proc nimbus cloak, how could I have ever doubted his actions
nah it's just a recent spectate bug
he has manaflow tho
So nobody gonna talk about the flash at 9:04
it's probably spectator bug
Chovy is definitely one of my favorite mids
congratulations
If you guys are curious, hes standing still periodically in the lane its not random. It's called trading stance and essentially you put yourself over your own dying minion so if they try to go for it you can dodge stuff like sylas E but also harrass them and run them down if they go for that farm
I'm curious how chovy would have played the matchup the other way around, if he were sylas and he was laning into Viktor. It's a very tough lane for sylas if the Viktor knows what they're doing and he certainly would not be able to cs as well as he did
Drew has really high quality content these days, thats very rare in League community, u just get on point analysis and tipps + commentary 100% for free its so good
About the coin flip roams - the lower elo you are at, the more you are kinda forced to do that at least from time to time, because your teammates are gonna be furious enemy roamed and you didn’t and they often know nothing about the wave management (especially true for more obscure regions like Russia, for instance)
don't be afraid to laneswap a little bit? dude u do this u gonna get reported, its chovy he can do this, normal soloq player 99,9% of a time gonna get flamed
idk why my adc cries when I get a high cs lead,I am just a good support who mains mid lane
16:42 midbeast says the n word
i like how midbeast listens to baithoveen while cs ing perfectly
This is amazing. When I try to have perfect CS and lane control, I get ganked at lvl 3 by the enemy jungler then over and over... What do I do?
im just a normal player, probably could be worse than you. But usually what I do in midlane is place ward at 1.28-1.30 at chicken camp enemy side. That way you will know their jg rotation to avoid gank. If the enemy jgler starts red (you can easily tell if either top lane or botlane mia to leash). So after their red, usually it would take a while for them to clear krugs (depends on clear speed) but generally you would be able to see enemy jgler at raptor camp by the 3 wave at long last. So when you have the information, rotate yourself away from the potential gank point. Say if you see the enemy jgler just finished raptor and has a sign of coming toward mid, back off a bit away from that side, like move toward the left or right depends on your team side. Or alternatively, you can set up your wave like Chovy did, where he slow shove minions, created good advantage and no gank potential for enemy jgler. Again, im just a casual playrr so take it how you will. Wish you luck!
@@minh7320 wow amazing reply!! I'm so sorry that I've only seen this now. Thank you so kindly for your tips, these are great!!
300 cs = 15750 Gold
Note: I excluded cannon minions and super minion in my equation (3x21) (150) + (3x14) (150) = 15750
let us assumed that he takes 150 caster minions and 150 melee minions.
hope it helped.
I hope youre joking
Nobody recognised the flash by chovy on the same spot where he was standing already?
9:00
Yeah i was slso wondering why nobody noticed that
It's a common visual replay bug.
That was funny. “Can he get 240 cs per minute? Aweee man, unfortunate base..... for my screenshot” lolololol
I could swear challenger games spawn more minions 😂