Thank god somebody pointed out players like Chovy going like 20-0 in lane aren’t interesting games. Watching people play from either behind, or 1v9ing just through good laning are actually games you can learn from.
Exactly. Watching games of good players getting a random kills through mechanical outplays isn't helpful. It's not something you can replicate and you don't learn much from it other than play better. However, watching someone dominate through wave manipulation, zoning, spacing aggressively, forcing bad bases, getting good base timings, etc is something that you can study and learn to incorporate into your own gameplay.
@@jimmykudo11 Well if you didnt know that then i bet you don't know viktor's R can cancel channeling spells on the initial cast. Theres a bunch of stuff ya prob dont know about the game if you didn't know about the thresh lantern lol
13:11 This makes me want to have this confidence in lane and because im in lower elo (obviously, around gold II) I can probably dodge all the skill shots.
0:50 Chovy did not hit a single minion, even sacrificing 2 minion to ensure the freeze. Kat fucked up by throwing her daggers. There was also a way for Kat to prevent the freeze but she didnt do it. If she walked up at 0:49, and autoed Viego 1-2 times, her minions would've attacked Viego ensuring the wave would push back to her but she didn't. She'd lose a quarter/half hp but that's doable compared to getting zoned for multiple waves.
midbeast i hope u can see this, the reason why sometimes you dont get caster aggro isnt quite the range or the distance, right after the caster weave their attacks theres a brief time where u can do whatever to the enemy laner and not get aggro
YO midbeast, i had the exact same problem as you a few months back, its due to dryness in ur eye you need blink more, you can imagine how little you blink when you focus on a game for 20+ minutes. it goes away after a few weeks
@@dreamerbeamer ya, but there's obviously a lot more to it then that. I'm D2, what do they know that I don't to go from D2 to Challenger, that's what I want a video on
The wave was pushing back to chovy at lv 2 is not just bc Kat Q hit three minions. When kat Q, she has the minion Aggro, and chovy walked up to force kat to walk back, allowing one minion to get in tower range
as a main viego I know I have much to learn from chovy just recently started trying the landing phase w viego not usually a laner but this champ makes it so much easier to play
Thing to note is when pointing out the Trynd was getting the same treatment from Mundo that Kat was getting from Viego. after the 20 minute Mark Tryndamere has basically recovered and Mundo's lead is now gone.
I don't actually remember if there was another Vod focused on Viego however I've found the way of using your w to simply close the distance to use q because of low cooldowns and no mana cost pretty juicy.
@Drew Thanks for giving us quality reviews, and always talking about game theory, fundamentals, and strategy. It's so nice to watch the more "methodical" and played out games like you said. Watching games where someone gets a Penta in the first 2 min doesn't teach us anything 🥇🥇🥇 keep up the quality bro!
it just works because katarina lvl 1 is basically weaker than kayle lvl 1, she has no way to range last hit as her daggers push the wave if she does so, making the wave freeze harder, viego is stronger in lvl 1-3 plus on top of it viego scales way better than katarina in a isolated or skirmish scenario. she missed the first 3 minions on lane means she hits lvl 2 way way later
How to remove veigo from lane or make him less of a bully : Make his q like yasuo's, gets minion aggro if not hitting minions. Reduce his mr. Or just make him a mana champ.
Generally speaking, I agree with you about csd being more important than cs. The exception I'd point out is if you're playing a highly gold-dependent champ and the enemy team is all getting fed. Then it's better to give your opponent a few more cs to maximize your cs even if your cs advantage decreases.
I don't know if this is a Viego feature but when Viego picked up Kindred 14:03 it actually spawn a mark on the enemy jungle camp. So kindred basically got a free mark at her own jungle camp what the heck?
I find it difficult getting a win with Viego Jungle using the Korean build (Divine sunderer > Botrk > Steraks), maybe I'm too used to play crit + atk speed viego that building fighter/juggernaut items just doesn't feel natural to me and I can't gauge the damage properly.
I think the crit build is way better for solo q. At least for me, I feel like Divine makes me feel like I have no damage, but I’m also still super squishy for some reason.
I think that when you play jgl going steraks second and brk third is better because if the reset mechanic you need to survive at all cost and sterak helps in mid game tf
"Chovy is the Cho-Pin of laning"
I laughed so hard
Lmao
Yeah...my stomach hurts from laughing
That Cho-Pin guy is truly one of the greatest pianists ever
who doesn't know Cho-pin
Just want to say I’m really enjoying this type of contents, just calm, no needless screaming, just some good league of legends commentary
ikr my fav kind of league videos atm
His best content is other players’ content
@@SadMach1n3 yes but with midbeans voice so it's not the same
@@SadMach1n3 something is burning.
if im ever tilted in a league game i just watch midbeans commentary and try to listen to the advice he gives, most calming shit ever
22:50
Chovy: fails Kindred q
Drew: Chovy taunting
HAHAHHAAHHAHA
One of the most suffocating laning phases i've seen
I would of uninstalled as a Kat main myself, ik exactly the pain of slow pushing with q lol
Well put, sir.
just leave the game and switch accounts at that point.
@@calvinshannon4361 lol, i love slow pushing against kata. So peacefull
one time i did this to a kassadin, he was so mad all he did was curse me in chat XD
"He is the Bait-hoven, the mow-xar, cho-peen of laning"
CHO PIN was the worse he pronounced of the three
It actually is pronounced as Baithoven.
@@ultralooterno it isn't
@@youtube-nutzer2895 It's a German name.
@@ultralooter read my name? You're talking to a native. And bait is definitely not the pronunciation for beet in Beethoven.
Thank god somebody pointed out players like Chovy going like 20-0 in lane aren’t interesting games. Watching people play from either behind, or 1v9ing just through good laning are actually games you can learn from.
Exactly. Watching games of good players getting a random kills through mechanical outplays isn't helpful. It's not something you can replicate and you don't learn much from it other than play better. However, watching someone dominate through wave manipulation, zoning, spacing aggressively, forcing bad bases, getting good base timings, etc is something that you can study and learn to incorporate into your own gameplay.
@@abcdefsuzu just like you said hes explaining why the things the viego is doing works, and explaning what not to do(katarina)
As a thresh main, I have to appreciate Chovy waiting for thresh's lantern to pick up souls before picking it up. What a lad @14:30
I'm playing league for 6 years but I didn't know that Thresh's lantern can pick up soul.
@@jimmykudo11 are you sure you even play the game?
@@catlameo6009 Ofcourse. I'm sure I'm not the only player who doesn't know this.
@@jimmykudo11 Well if you didnt know that then i bet you don't know viktor's R can cancel channeling spells on the initial cast. Theres a bunch of stuff ya prob dont know about the game if you didn't know about the thresh lantern lol
@@johnj3027 im d1 and i didnt know that god na is doomed
"you can dispute it, but i'll just dispute you disputing it, so just settle down now, okay?" XD
I agree that these vods are much more interesting than the ones with 20 kills at 10 , we want more chovy
lets see the 4th best qiyana world do a review
midbeast can you please get a GP to do a vod review of your eye infection, it can potentially be serious and with medicare it's literally freelo
good one KEKW
the gp will probably tell midbeast just to eat some oranges
@@fortresstripleone8427 nice
Nobody:
Midbeast: chempunk tanksword
After watching chovy other midlaner feels weak
I wish there was someone like Midbeast for toplane as well
start it yourself brother
@@chipolox4976 great advice dude
Topbeast. 2nd best at toplane
We need one for every role XD!
I’d say neace is the closest to midbeast in terms of educating top laners. With a less relaxing voice and less pro vod reviews.
13:11
This makes me want to have this confidence in lane and because im in lower elo (obviously, around gold II) I can probably dodge all the skill shots.
7:57 just focus and lsiten 😂😂
Might as well just buy a support item on this point.
Pretty much my only bell on sub from UA-cam- midbeast commentary is always the GOAT. Hope your eye heals up and you have a good weekend too mate! ✌
Could you do more game reviews where these players play a bad match up or from behind?
I’ve only just realised that Viego’s sword is as tall as him
It's bork
Chovy is using top lane tactics in mid lane, that zoning from xp lvl 1,i didn't even know it was possible in mid since mid is such a short lane
Midbeast: No one can do this
Silver NA Players: Watch us
0:50 Chovy did not hit a single minion, even sacrificing 2 minion to ensure the freeze.
Kat fucked up by throwing her daggers. There was also a way for Kat to prevent the freeze but she didnt do it. If she walked up at 0:49, and autoed Viego 1-2 times, her minions would've attacked Viego ensuring the wave would push back to her but she didn't. She'd lose a quarter/half hp but that's doable compared to getting zoned for multiple waves.
Nice commentary, love the shape of the cam btw
I appreciate you being naturally funny
Me: Finally a day off school and computer science.
Midbeast: backend.... frontend....
The flash from the morgana q around 9 mins made me so anxious, those reactions are insane
No way the church of chovy is that good
midbeast i hope u can see this, the reason why sometimes you dont get caster aggro isnt quite the range or the distance, right after the caster weave their attacks theres a brief time where u can do whatever to the enemy laner and not get aggro
Maybe he didn't see this, but I really wanted to know this. Thank you.
YO midbeast, i had the exact same problem as you a few months back, its due to dryness in ur eye you need blink more, you can imagine how little you blink when you focus on a game for 20+ minutes. it goes away after a few weeks
Being aggressive like he was in lane isn't hard. What we really need is a guide on how to do that while not getting crushed by the enemy jungler.
Just look at the map and also predict enemy jungle pathing? Bruh. There’s a reason why these guys are in high elo.
@@dreamerbeamer ya, but there's obviously a lot more to it then that. I'm D2, what do they know that I don't to go from D2 to Challenger, that's what I want a video on
@@EssDubz just get good
"how to do that while not getting crushed by the enemy jungler." and that's one of the reasons it's hard, dunning kruger effect at it's finest
@@steveboel12 I don't think you know what dunning Kruger is. Or understood what I said.
that : " and btw my eye is swollen af" cracked me up xD
The wave was pushing back to chovy at lv 2 is not just bc Kat Q hit three minions. When kat Q, she has the minion Aggro, and chovy walked up to force kat to walk back, allowing one minion to get in tower range
Hope your eye is okay Drew, been loving the daily uploads!
"TIKTOK ATTENTION SPAN PEOPLE" i died laughing there! haahahha
love your vids, these gameplays are so much more interesting, i agree
The IG plug is brilliant 🤣 Drew!!
'chovy is obsessed with viego, he's been spamming in on his smurf account'
13 games played
Keep the upload streak going. I’m a new sub and I can’t stop watching your videos.
as a main viego I know I have much to learn from chovy just recently started trying the landing phase w viego not usually a laner but this champ makes it so much easier to play
I have M6 Viego from only playing mid
It's really fun
There it is, the daily upload. I was waiting for a new vid! Awesome content mate
The church of chovy once again thanks you for spreading the gospel Mr. Mid
I’d heard you say Chevy was the best loaner in the world before, but I’d never really realized how good he is, this is just nuts
Thing to note is when pointing out the Trynd was getting the same treatment from Mundo that Kat was getting from Viego. after the 20 minute Mark Tryndamere has basically recovered and Mundo's lead is now gone.
love your daily uploads midb keep it up
"Spirit Visadj" killed me
10:47 had me in tears hahahahahaa
thumbs up for going on even while your eye is infected...i know this feeling, its really annoying but fades away after a week or so
mans popping daily videos with one eye
and then there is toplane where they are both fighting each other the entire lane and stay behind 80 cs
”I dont wanne turn into you, stinky mundo. Ill just be myseeeelf”
13:25 guy didn't even panic and still got the whole wave with that pressure
That photo, OMG, so cute and lovely! I wish liking a video would have no limit, so I can keep liking while I watch this ❤️
great video, i enjoyed it, good commentary
Crazy to see someone lit smurfing in high challenger like Chovy. :))
I don't actually remember if there was another Vod focused on Viego however I've found the way of using your w to simply close the distance to use q because of low cooldowns and no mana cost pretty juicy.
24:20 - Its my chemical chain sword, cmon drew...
would love to see another video on bella ciao, he’s back on that mid graves domination
"you could dispute it, but I would dispute you disputing it. Just settle down, alright?"
1000 LP difference is way bigger than between plat 3 and diamond 3/diamond 2. It's actually between plat 3 and master 300 LP
So yeah, HUGE diff
i like the daily upload man keep it up
I love the mental stuff you cover
Bruh, get your eye checked out. That could be an issue. Your eye can recover fast but it is also the easiest thing on your body to damage
I love how Drew just renamed Chempunk Chainsword at 24:20
I can’t find any videos where you’ve done this, but I’d love to see you do a vod review in your own games 😂
life like chovy
"If you got a problem with Chovy being the best laner in the world, then you got a problem with me and you best let that one marinate."
@Drew Thanks for giving us quality reviews, and always talking about game theory, fundamentals, and strategy. It's so nice to watch the more "methodical" and played out games like you said. Watching games where someone gets a Penta in the first 2 min doesn't teach us anything 🥇🥇🥇 keep up the quality bro!
6:15 break the chain roam if you have utility... Or force a lane swap or a gank or a better place to farm...
The Cho' pin xD
it just works because katarina lvl 1 is basically weaker than kayle lvl 1, she has no way to range last hit as her daggers push the wave if she does so, making the wave freeze harder, viego is stronger in lvl 1-3 plus on top of it viego scales way better than katarina in a isolated or skirmish scenario. she missed the first 3 minions on lane means she hits lvl 2 way way later
Every division is 100LP. If we do the math it's a Gold 3 to Diamond 3 difference
Hey midbeast, I was wondering if you could consider playing some background music (some lofi or idk) in these reviews?
I love this math "If you trade 1 creep and deny 2 is good. Even if you have 5 creeps and your opponent 0, is still worth"
let's not pretend like this doesn't happen to kata in every single ad bruiser mid matchup lol
I am still pretty impressed at how well that Kat did with such a big cs disadvantage early.
the way you said chopin killed like half of my brain cells... cmn man
Love your content mate
Can you do a high elo leblanc vod review ?
Best way to describe his gameplay is "Surgical"
How to remove veigo from lane or make him less of a bully :
Make his q like yasuo's, gets minion aggro if not hitting minions.
Reduce his mr.
Or just make him a mana champ.
You have a great weekend too mid beast 🤙🏼
"I'll dispute you disputing it so calm down" Easy sub
Fucking cho-PIN man, he's too good!
Imagine being Chopin and finding that this is your legacy
Kat: guess I can’t fucking play
Thank you for the daily uploads even when you are having some health issues Drew, apreciated mate
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Generally speaking, I agree with you about csd being more important than cs. The exception I'd point out is if you're playing a highly gold-dependent champ and the enemy team is all getting fed. Then it's better to give your opponent a few more cs to maximize your cs even if your cs advantage decreases.
I know this was alng time ago but I can't think of a single champion that I'd rather have gold than exp. It's worth so much more
Midbeast is obsessed with chovy
Dad just pronounced Chopin as "Cho-pin" and not "Shopan". Lol
Could’ve been because he was calling a player named Cho-vy Cho-pin 🤔
At low elo games, in this situation katarina just perma roam and ur lanes just feed her… and then ur team starts flaming
I don't know if this is a Viego feature but when Viego picked up Kindred 14:03 it actually spawn a mark on the enemy jungle camp. So kindred basically got a free mark at her own jungle camp what the heck?
Choo, choo, chovy train steam rolling on veigo
The Katarina isn’t poking him down when she should be.
respecr to your dedication in posting youtube videos
I love how he "guessed" that he'd buy boots when he backed at 12 or something when he literally has seen the gameplay :D
He watched some landing phase, not the full game I think
SHO PAN CHOPIN IS PRONOUNCED SHO PAN OH MY GOD I'M DYINGGGGGGG
"What other midlaner has confidence like this" uh every mid laner from iron to gold
can we get some top vod as well midbeast?
I find it difficult getting a win with Viego Jungle using the Korean build (Divine sunderer > Botrk > Steraks), maybe I'm too used to play crit + atk speed viego that building fighter/juggernaut items just doesn't feel natural to me and I can't gauge the damage properly.
I think the crit build is way better for solo q. At least for me, I feel like Divine makes me feel like I have no damage, but I’m also still super squishy for some reason.
I think that when you play jgl going steraks second and brk third is better because if the reset mechanic you need to survive at all cost and sterak helps in mid game tf
Well, viego lane is gone, his aa range is now almost that of a mele champion.