I love the connection, energy, and discoveries made in this conversation. Surprises in the poking, smart questions, well thought out perspectives, and humility stood out for me. Importantly, it shifted my thoughts and curiosities about potential.
Empty calories until the end where the discussion turns serious: what do we mean by “your potential” once we are skeptical of innate ability? How should your “values” (whatever that means) shape your impending choices? If only we could listen to the _next_ hour of this promising discussion.
These episodes flow so incredibly well man. I get so engaged in the intricacies of the conversations. The main thing remains the main thing for most of the time and it's very refreshing and engaging. I look up and an entire 43 minutes has seemingly dissipated right under my nose. Thank you so much for your, and everyone else involved, contributions. 👍🏾
@@andrewpiazza1028cute, but not really fair to expect someone with a higher level of education in ANY topic to be conversational in all things. Sadly, we as a society do this a lot.
The prodigy theory of achievement allows those who achieve less to have the excuse of not having that talent or gift. And that brilliance is a trait and not the result of hard work
Wow! This is a great video. I’m not sure if I’m qualified to answer the affirmative action school vs. the HBCU school. But I would love to have a conversation with you about it more.
Dr Thomas Sowell had a great video on UA-cam about the perils of affirmative action. Just like Malcolm’s comments about hockey players born early in the year… it is almost always better to be high ranking in an average crowd, than low ranking in a above average crowd, the answer is HBCU…
@@jakejacobs4463 thanks so much for this information. So my husband and I have this debate a lot. Especially since we’re raising a 10 year old ballerina who will probably be faced with this very decision in about 8 years. I’m a Hampton graduate so I am pushing for HBCU however I paused at if she has the opportunity to go to ivy league hmmm… so your comment helps a lot. Thank you
- Read Adam Grant's book "Hidden Potential" to challenge your own perceptions of ability and achievement (0:16). - Reflect on how personal struggles and perceived failures can contribute to growth and inform your work or life philosophy (10:03). - Consider the impact of parental expectations and criticism on the rise of perfectionism and how it can be counterproductive (34:01). - Reevaluate your definitions of success to ensure they align with your core values, rather than external achievements (42:01). - Think critically about affirmative action and legacy admissions, and explore alternative ways to recognize and develop potential based on individual experiences (37:47).
I think "legacy" admissions should be allowed in private universities but not in public ones. Part of the business model of a private university is for the rich to pay for the excellent, since the "excellent" often come from backgrounds of modest means. Public universities have a different business model. Much of there funding comes from the public purse. For this reason, the rich should not be needed to pay for the excellent. So, I think a greater emphasis on meritocracy, there, is warranted.
Hidden Potential, in plain sight, because the Singularity-point i-reflection containment state at the Centre of Time Duration Timing reflects Eternity-now Interval Conception, ie Time is the Observable constant creation Communication In-form-ation Circuitry of the Universe. As Feynman said, "Plenty of room at the bottom", which it turns inside-outside holographic positioning wise to become Aether spacing-time-timing. Something to think about in conscious awareness of real-time relative-timing sum-of-all-histories holography-quantization.., infinite curvature and orthogonal-normal reciprocation-recirculation measure-potential, here-now-forever.
Today it's more fashionable (and profitable) to write a book aimed at an easy-to-fool public, full of your unproven theories, rather than to test & publish those unproven theories in a scientific study/paper that undergoes scrutiny by your peers/the scientific community. Let's revise his thesis to: "Intuitive notions of psychology held by the general public AND held by many psychologists are flawed."
Adam says the general public's "intuitive notions of psychology" are flawed. This seems likely. But Adam doesn't assess whether the notions held by many psychologists are _also flawed_. They may be also flawed, if we consider the critical failures in the field, that aren't being fixed. Too many academic psychologists like Adam are unreliable since they learned flawed psychology - but they won't admit it. Adam says he expects strong evidence, for him to believe an idea/theory. Yet he & countless psychologists hold onto flawed ideas they were taught earlier. They ignore the chasms of missing evidence in psychology, the decades-long critical failures of "studies" throughout the social sciences & psychology to withstand true scientific scrutiny. Too many studies in psychology - i.e. too many theories & beliefs forming the foundations of psychology - are based on biased/flawed past studies that no one can replicate (they were originally done poorly). If a study can't be replicated (i.e. if it can't be repeated exactly, by an independent 3rd party/team, where they find statistically very similar results thereby supporting the original study's conclusion(s)...), then its theories/postulates become scientifically unproven - and meaningless. An example of Adam's self-blindness is that while (in this podcast) he faults Freud for not using empirical evidence to form his theories, Adam quite comfortably relies on the long list of psychology's failed studies to conjure up even more untested/unreliable theories. It's not only the public who fail to understand psychology. Too many psychologists also misunderstand the basics.
Hard part is defending your values from the world as younger person bashing around trying to see what fits esp in bad US schools. My ambidextrous reading 5yo was told he must be right handed to learn to read and harangued so he refused to read in school in kindergarten, when she demanded he print dnealian a instead of as typed he dressed her down saying he really only needed to learn keyboarding. He did convert the a to her demand saying he would always remember exactly how stupid school was every time he wrote it. By 6 was touch typing, by 12 reading Mandarin.
I think that Adam has it all wrong… kids who succeed early in life, generally have extremely narcissistic parents, and over time those narcissistic parents sabotage their children’s lives….
What data are you basing your conclusions on? I knew a lot of very successful students growing up and I have a hard time generalizing much about their experiences beyond knowing they had ample resources to support their growth. Some of their parents were narcissists and some were far from it.
@@benjaminkowal7310 I would say that my opinion is based mostly upon my understanding of the average five-year-old my son is 16 now but when he was in kindergarten, he had two friends that I would classify as extremely high performers. One was a hockey player. One play the cello the hockey player because ice time is fairly hard to come by for a five year old hockey team had practice at 1:30 in the morning no do you really think the average five-year-old wants to get up at 1:30 in the morning to go to hockey practice. The other kid, the cello player I know her mom made her practice two hours a day. Her mom was also a cello player in the Philharmonic, that would you guess that the average five year old girl would rather play with kids or practice cello three hours a day my guess is the average kid would prefer to play with other kids… I admit it’s only my anecdotal experience in Frank that I have better things to do with my time and look for statistics. You can believe it or not I don’t care.
Humans simplify the real world until they can grasp it usefully because that is the best we can do. In this video attempts to be understandable simplifies reality too much. There are no good or bad actions without context. Analogously, there are no bad foods. But there are bad diets. Parents may sound narcissistic when they deal with their own deep seated fear that they themselves are complete amateurs as a parent. It becomes bad if its too frequent, unbalanced or in the wrong context.
The chemistry between you two is adorable
Back for some Malcolm.
Malcolm is a great mind
❤ to Grant & Malcom
I love the connection, energy, and discoveries made in this conversation. Surprises in the poking, smart questions, well thought out perspectives, and humility stood out for me. Importantly, it shifted my thoughts and curiosities about potential.
"Stretching beyond our strengths" ❤
Thank you 😢😢😢
Empty calories until the end where the discussion turns serious: what do we mean by “your potential” once we are skeptical of innate ability? How should your “values” (whatever that means) shape your impending choices?
If only we could listen to the _next_ hour of this promising discussion.
Value is perfectly neutral, after all.
These episodes flow so incredibly well man. I get so engaged in the intricacies of the conversations. The main thing remains the main thing for most of the time and it's very refreshing and engaging. I look up and an entire 43 minutes has seemingly dissipated right under my nose. Thank you so much for your, and everyone else involved, contributions. 👍🏾
one of the finest podcast at our disposal. But, but, Mr Grant went to Harvard, and doesn't know Tilapia is a freshwater species?
@@andrewpiazza1028cute, but not really fair to expect someone with a higher level of education in ANY topic to be conversational in all things. Sadly, we as a society do this a lot.
great discussion. wish there was video
What an interesting episode! His TED talks (like a couple of his that I summarise on my channel) are also highly recommended.
The prodigy theory of achievement allows those who achieve less to have the excuse of not having that talent or gift. And that brilliance is a trait and not the result of hard work
Wow! This is a great video. I’m not sure if I’m qualified to answer the affirmative action school vs. the HBCU school. But I would love to have a conversation with you about it more.
Dr Thomas Sowell had a great video on UA-cam about the perils of affirmative action. Just like Malcolm’s comments about hockey players born early in the year… it is almost always better to be high ranking in an average crowd, than low ranking in a above average crowd, the answer is HBCU…
@@jakejacobs4463 thanks so much for this information. So my husband and I have this debate a lot. Especially since we’re raising a 10 year old ballerina who will probably be faced with this very decision in about 8 years. I’m a Hampton graduate so I am pushing for HBCU however I paused at if she has the opportunity to go to ivy league hmmm… so your comment helps a lot. Thank you
Best of luck to you and your daughter….
- Read Adam Grant's book "Hidden Potential" to challenge your own perceptions of ability and achievement (0:16).
- Reflect on how personal struggles and perceived failures can contribute to growth and inform your work or life philosophy (10:03).
- Consider the impact of parental expectations and criticism on the rise of perfectionism and how it can be counterproductive (34:01).
- Reevaluate your definitions of success to ensure they align with your core values, rather than external achievements (42:01).
- Think critically about affirmative action and legacy admissions, and explore alternative ways to recognize and develop potential based on individual experiences (37:47).
I think "legacy" admissions should be allowed in private universities but not in public ones. Part of the business model of a private university is for the rich to pay for the excellent, since the "excellent" often come from backgrounds of modest means.
Public universities have a different business model. Much of there funding comes from the public purse. For this reason, the rich should not be needed to pay for the excellent. So, I think a greater emphasis on meritocracy, there, is warranted.
Hidden Potential, in plain sight, because the Singularity-point i-reflection containment state at the Centre of Time Duration Timing reflects Eternity-now Interval Conception, ie Time is the Observable constant creation Communication In-form-ation Circuitry of the Universe.
As Feynman said, "Plenty of room at the bottom", which it turns inside-outside holographic positioning wise to become Aether spacing-time-timing.
Something to think about in conscious awareness of real-time relative-timing sum-of-all-histories holography-quantization.., infinite curvature and orthogonal-normal reciprocation-recirculation measure-potential, here-now-forever.
Today it's more fashionable (and profitable) to write a book aimed at an easy-to-fool public, full of your unproven theories, rather than to test & publish those unproven theories in a scientific study/paper that undergoes scrutiny by your peers/the scientific community.
Let's revise his thesis to: "Intuitive notions of psychology held by the general public AND held by many psychologists are flawed."
Adam says the general public's "intuitive notions of psychology" are flawed. This seems likely. But Adam doesn't assess whether the notions held by many psychologists are _also flawed_. They may be also flawed, if we consider the critical failures in the field, that aren't being fixed. Too many academic psychologists like Adam are unreliable since they learned flawed psychology - but they won't admit it.
Adam says he expects strong evidence, for him to believe an idea/theory. Yet he & countless psychologists hold onto flawed ideas they were taught earlier. They ignore the chasms of missing evidence in psychology, the decades-long critical failures of "studies" throughout the social sciences & psychology to withstand true scientific scrutiny. Too many studies in psychology - i.e. too many theories & beliefs forming the foundations of psychology - are based on biased/flawed past studies that no one can replicate (they were originally done poorly). If a study can't be replicated (i.e. if it can't be repeated exactly, by an independent 3rd party/team, where they find statistically very similar results thereby supporting the original study's conclusion(s)...), then its theories/postulates become scientifically unproven - and meaningless. An example of Adam's self-blindness is that while (in this podcast) he faults Freud for not using empirical evidence to form his theories, Adam quite comfortably relies on the long list of psychology's failed studies to conjure up even more untested/unreliable theories. It's not only the public who fail to understand psychology. Too many psychologists also misunderstand the basics.
Hard part is defending your values from the world as younger person bashing around trying to see what fits esp in bad US schools. My ambidextrous reading 5yo was told he must be right handed to learn to read and harangued so he refused to read in school in kindergarten, when she demanded he print dnealian a instead of as typed he dressed her down saying he really only needed to learn keyboarding. He did convert the a to her demand saying he would always remember exactly how stupid school was every time he wrote it. By 6 was touch typing, by 12 reading Mandarin.
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I think that Adam has it all wrong… kids who succeed early in life, generally have extremely narcissistic parents, and over time those narcissistic parents sabotage their children’s lives….
What data are you basing your conclusions on? I knew a lot of very successful students growing up and I have a hard time generalizing much about their experiences beyond knowing they had ample resources to support their growth. Some of their parents were narcissists and some were far from it.
@@benjaminkowal7310 I would say that my opinion is based mostly upon my understanding of the average five-year-old my son is 16 now but when he was in kindergarten, he had two friends that I would classify as extremely high performers. One was a hockey player. One play the cello the hockey player because ice time is fairly hard to come by for a five year old hockey team had practice at 1:30 in the morning no do you really think the average five-year-old wants to get up at 1:30 in the morning to go to hockey practice. The other kid, the cello player I know her mom made her practice two hours a day. Her mom was also a cello player in the Philharmonic, that would you guess that the average five year old girl would rather play with kids or practice cello three hours a day my guess is the average kid would prefer to play with other kids… I admit it’s only my anecdotal experience in Frank that I have better things to do with my time and look for statistics. You can believe it or not I don’t care.
True. It is also to those children to get their head out of their own booty hole and succeed
Antidotal observations. Depends on how sensitive the kid is.
@@benjaminkowal7310duh, he says, “I think….”
Not my subject
Stop using other people's lingo, such as vocabulary!
Humans simplify the real world until they can grasp it usefully because that is the best we can do. In this video attempts to be understandable simplifies reality too much.
There are no good or bad actions without context.
Analogously, there are no bad foods. But there are bad diets.
Parents may sound narcissistic when they deal with their own deep seated fear that they themselves are complete amateurs as a parent. It becomes bad if its too frequent, unbalanced or in the wrong context.
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