This is one of the coolest sound design videos I've ever seen. A big part of why I chose Reason as my DAW is that I really liked how you guys do your tutorial videos. Great content, great sense of humor, interesting and creative ideas. This is really so cool for hip hop producers. I'm very impressed and inspired.
@@HOLLASOUNDS Show me, this is the problem with reason. Everybody who uses it is a sound engineer and it's such a steep learning curve. I pirated it for years because it was it had a nice sequencer I could understand. And I almost went for frutiloops. I have learned over the years how it works by trial and error and scattered tutorials. What I found was reason is good at in my opinion is interface and the sequencer. The biggest fault of Reason is lack of tutorials. Just simple modern stuff like synths of the 90-10. I get nostalgia but nostalgia can be a great limitation if you don't inspire your audience as a grand of many flavors.
@@neon-viper7434I dont have a problem with Reason. As for tutorials ReasonStudios and Previously Propellerhead have a manual for every one of there devices and there are tutorial in depth tutorials for every device in made by Reason. Reason also choose affiliated UA-cam channels that also do great tutorials for Reason and highlight them on there website and UA-cam channel. Literally everything you could possibly want to know is offered by them or the channels they affiliate them selfs with and or promote. Any questions you have you can email ReasonStudios direct and they will respond and help you with what you want to know.
It's terrible right!? You know what's even weirder. I was given that SP-12 for free by another musician who had it in their junk closet and I went over one day 12 years ago and they were like "oh hey, do you want this? I'm probably tossing it." And I was like "um... YEAH!" /ryan
Yea at this point it's just a money thing the people who are saying that are just seeing dollar signs but us smart ones are making the music, I usually ignore them and rock out on my tape deck mpc x and roland sp404 those people are delusional and it's mostly in their heads.
The emulation that you created does sound close to being identical, but the SP 12/1200 sound that people are searching for isn't that simple. There is a reason that most plugin emulations of the SP 12/1200 sound so exaggerated. When those machines were new, people would sample from wax in to them, but as you mentioned in the video, they both had limited sample time. In order to compensate for the lack of sample time, the users would speed the record up while sampling. In other words, they would take a 33 1/3 rpm record and speed it up to 45. Then once inside the SP 12/1200, they would pitch the sample back down to it's original pitch/sound. This essentially did two things. For one, it took in to account the SP 12/1200's pitch algorithm. It also actually decreased the sample rate. That process added artifacts and aliasing to the sound. This is what you hear in plugins that seem to be overexaggerated in comparison to your example here. Now, if you want to prove how accurate your emulation truly is, you would need to sample a drum break from a 33 1/3 rpm record that is being played at 45 rpm's in to your SP 12. Then, pitch the sample down to it's original sound/pitch. Then take an observation of the artifacts and aliasing that you hear imbedded in the sound. I don't have an SP 12/1200. If I did, I would make a video comparing your emulation to the real thing. I would, however, be really interested in seeing someone else do that. Just my $.02.
Those are all great points! And you're correct that the sample rate scaling, when pitching down, has its own sound contribution. That was why I gave people fader access on the Combinator to pull the sample rate down further if they want to but I didn't get into the pitched element of the Sp-12 sound in the video because it's no longer an audio effect you could apply to any signal. To get the pitched sound you need to also... well, pitch the sound. :) So the kick drums get deeper, the snare get beefier and looser sounding. That all happens from pitch transposing in a way no audio effect (aside from something like Polar's pitch shift) could replicate. But you've got me curious now how this Combinator would sound if you did pitch a sample going into it and then scale down the sample rate a bit. Maybe I'll try that out. /ryan
@@ReasonStudios What if you recorded an impulse, then pitched it down on the sampler, then used that in a convolution reverb? Could that capture some of the character and reproduce it?
@@soviut303 It's a great suggestion and I'll give you the as-yet unannounced news that I plan to make a follow up to this video where I tackle the pitched sound of the SP-1200 /ryan
Also, to add on to the pt. kb420 said above, it’s not just the drums. What people are actually really looking for in the SP is what SP-heads call ‘the Ring’. It’s most distinctly heard on instruments like a Rhodes. I best described as like a warm attendant buzzy overtone, like when a piece of plastic is broken on an old radio or car stereo. It’s fuzzy & dusty. I think it results from having the resonance torqued all the way up on a filter or something. Watch videos by ‘Khaderbai’, or ‘Chief Rugged’ for beats, or ‘Low Hiss’ who created a software emulator (eSPi) to recreate it. It’s that buzzy mellow overtone that does it for us (+ the phenomenal beat-crunch which you just adeptly recreated 🙏) but if I had to choose just 1, old heads like myself just go nuts for the buzz - ‘the Ring’.
Hey Ryan, "THAT SOUND" we often talk about is actually when your sample is recorded at 75rps instead of 33 or 45, then in the sp12 you slow it down back to normal speed and it has a cool punchy lofi sound. Also what would be REALLY cool is if we as a Reason community could all upload white/pink noise samples of our particular samplers. I'm dying for an ASR-10! :O I've been match Eqing guitar for years and this is a similar thing. for lofi i often lean towards Decimort 2 or Tal Dac. Great video btw :)
Yep thats where the real magic happens. In the emu emulator-x soundcard that has the same chip you could do the same. And the arturia emu vst has a knob for this to get that same effect
@@peterpiper0815 ah yeah your right. Got confused about that you need the edsp chip on the emu soundcard to use the sp12 effect in emulator x. Been a while since i used it
what a nice gift, thank you so much! its always fascinating how close you can emulate gear just by adjusting the tonal balance. SM57 vs SM7B is a good example too
I love your videos. I've used Reason for over 20 years, and I use it daily, but I would never think to use some of the methods you describe. Very useful. Thanks.
The impulse response is how sound reacts to the space a sound lives in. Not the sound itself. By altering the sampling rate you are altering the source,
Really awesome stuff Ryan. Combinators like these could benefit from being added to the instrument/fx browser under combi's with screenshot abiility, they are that useful.
Downloaded reason just to try this and it's unbelievably good 👊 great work. Would love to see some other vintage gear get this treatment. Mpc 60, ASR 10, mpc 3000 ect
That's awesome! You know, a lot of people have been recommending the ASR-10 and one of the MPC. I might look into if I can do one of those (or both!) but I don't have the hardware so I'd have to see if someone I know does maybe. But I love that people want a follow up to this. Thanks for watching and trying it out! /ryan
the ASR-10 would be a DOPE rack extension, between the RX1200 and that all my original idol producers (ALC, RZA, etc) hardware would be in east coast boom bap producer’s rack
In the 90s a friend of mine ASH had a sp1200 at a time where DAW and MPCs were dominant this guy was so dope with it, he was considered the emperor of E-MU seemless timeless samples, he booked gigs just for people to see his prolific production style unfortunately, he died in a car accident . But he was unforgivable and I miss him , really at this time back in Jersey WU-tang RZA style chopping or DJ primo every joe was trying to do something like that. before MADDLIBZ or flying lotus there was ASH a unknown producer but I say if he was still here Ash would have been the king of the sampling because he worked hard at not using samples for the sake of sampling . He made it sound effortlessly using obscure soundscapes over a sort of breakbeat live mixtape style that I incorporated into my own music . And reason makes all that so easy because of it’s endless combinations that you don’t have to do as much to create that experimentation from hours of crate diving Dr Rex ,combo ,chords ,lead sample maybe a additional layer. Found out through the years of making beats that there’s a Beauty in just 4 track production that really captures the Rawness that is second to none and when you go up Ash would get irritated and I found myself doing that now but I didn’t understand this concept back then because of the overproduction on the charts was what everyone wanted at this time it was ridiculous to Ash because it wasn’t needed because people were recording in these industry 96 track studios of Manhattan which was good for finals but would really choke out the creative process Ash would come in with the 1200 and put these big wig productions to shame. He is sorely missed.
thats really beautiful. i’m sorry for your loss. do you think there are uploads or archives of his music? it sounds like it’s some of the best stuff ever.
This is great Ryan. Definitely nailed the vibe. Some Mimic updates would be lovely now - combined with this (pun intended) would be amazing. I'd particularly like some new grid slicing modes to really emulate that old skool sample chopping workflow!
The first good video from the Props I see in the Reason Studios era - in fact one of the best videos I've seen on sound design in general... and with a useful handout
This SP-12 (and not SP-1200, because that is a different beast in itself!) makes me realize how much hardware gear is important to "bringing life" to samples and sounds. Enjoyed this!
The sound those plugs are trying to emulate is sampling into the SP1200 at 45 RPM or something, then pitching the sample back down. That's where all that grainyness people like comes into play. Any hip hop till about 93' has that sound. Just sampling a loop into the SP without changing the pitch is kind of missing the point...
Ryan, I just fell in RE-Love with Reason.. Wow!! We've been together since 1.0. She gets better with age! Thanks for this RE-12 Template! Great vid!! 🙌🏽😏
The bass sample showed the most noticeable difference between SP-12 and emulation. The SP-12 had top end noise and aliasing artefacts that the emulation didn't. Nevertheless, the method is excellent.
Reason studio folks, if you are listening. I am staying in version 11. Don't care about subscriptions or getting the all you can eat menu. I do care about Reason for things like the ones shown in this video. Like when you introduced easy sampling in all devices. This is an excellent video that reminded me why I liked Reason so much. Now, give me an M1 native binary and I will buy the upgrade right away. And congratulations, excellent and inspiring video
Ableton user, will probably never switch. How comes this is still one of the most valuable content for music production on yt?😂 Love your chanel, great stuff!
Great video! HOWEVER, There’s a huge thing you are missing here. For a lot of us sp12 and sp1200 users, the sound we love is the sound of the machine aliasing. We would sample stuff in at 45 so we could sample more and then once it’s in the machine we slow it down to its original pitch. This is when the aliasing takes effect and we have that classic SP grain.
Its a VERY very close combination. I just hear a little more hiss living in the whole spectrum. i could not hear it with the first drums only when you went to the bass and synth tones. its a great thing. how about adding a small window giving us an ableton like 8 but just give us say 5 bands to use or 3.. so we can add just a little meat in those kicks or snap on those snares... love the gui btw. is there any tutorials on making combinator gui's u know of.. as you seem to have it perfect.. thanks for sharing to the world. and love the channel. now you need to do a mpc ver :)
. My first time watching and I'm officially hooked👍🏿 Thank you, now I just have to figure out how to get back into my Reason account and try this out. Possible game changer!!!!
Hey, ingenious break down and clever approach. I loved every minute. If it be possible, will you please make available both the original white noise and the SP 12 processed white noise so we can dail in the eq curve with third party eqs. Thank you so much for this video.
Did you try A/B blind test? The rest is probably just the person listening prejudicing himself because they see a hardware unit playing (the "nostalgia"/"hardware" factor)...
I love the “owe, god damnit!” as he’s digging the sp12 out of the closet. Not the point of the video but I feel like we all say that exact phrase as we are digging through a closet. 🤣
This is great, you really nailed the sp12 sound for a 1 to 1 comparison it sounds alike. Would you make a sample using the technique that we used on the sp1200 and sp12 to get that 90s lofi hiphop sound? Sample sound in at a fast rate then tune it down in the machine back to its original sound at normal playback. That is when the actual lofi magic (lol) happens with these samplers. Anti aliasing, ring, lofi sound etcetera. Great video! 👏👏
This is great not only for the science but the fun of emulation with what Reason already has to offer right under the hood! Plus you are the master teacher! ?keep up the great work! I will watch, learn, and share! PS- I first was attracted to this SP-1200 E-mu device or instrument due to my interest in learning more about how the Belgian 80's group Front 242 could have possibly made entire records using just samples and this device. the Album "Geography" has many songs each with its own industrial or early sample synth electro IDM or whatever you classify their early music. I know this is a paragraph but I would be grateful to ask you special questions that you could hear and most probably answer within a quick response, or longer, I am open. But, again, there is much to unpack with the album, and in do know the source of many of the samples , shhhh....but the reason I am asking is because they use it or the SP1200 or 12 I mean, in such a way that it appears they are just running and gunning it. But, I know as an adult that this is not the case. They seem like geniuses and indeed have influenced many others like Trent Reznor and NIN, and others. But, I mainly focus on the early album "Geography" because it is the most electronic synth, electro drum beat, minimal, and ambient and ok hardcore punk without the later 90's version when they use other gear and their style genre morphs to Industrial proper. Thanks again. For your inspiration!
ALC killed that beat. i heard they originally couldn’t clear the sample of the original version and that was a remade beat. i’d love to know the sample they couldn’t clear
Nicely done, from my memory the emu had different filters on each of its outputs. That was also part of its flavor. It may have been the 1200... adding that it would make this complete.
Cool video, more like this please! Some anecdote: I've sold a SP-1200 (1997 black re-issue with the sought-after filter chips) a few years ago for 320000 Yen. Still regretting it! Now they are listed on auction sites from anything between 900000 to over 2 million Yen. Crazy!
How to I use this as an insert effect so that I can apply to any track in the mixer. I flipped some things around and plugged some things around and no results. Help please.
@Reason Studios Hey would it be possible to get the samples you recorded from your SP 12 to copy the sound? I use FL Studio and I want to emulate the sound but I don't own a SP 12 or know anyone who has one.
I appreciate the hard work that went into this, But no one straight sampled into it. The signature sound comes from the recording of the pitched up sample and the stretch to get it back down to the same time signature producing that signature SP ring because of the lack of AA along with punch body and saturation .
White noise sample processed through the sp1200 - load into rv7000 put on max wet. In theory should blanket the sonics of whatever signal you put through it. We use this for making recordings sound vintage with impulse responses from old drum breaks.
Just to say thanks for all your tutorials.they have help with the giant leap I've made going from reason 4 to reason 12!originally I made tunage on an amiga 1200 comp using octamed!a whole 1.44mb floppy disks!had rebirth rb-338,although the disk broke-gutted!love to get it for doing quick sample bits.anyway,cheers squire Tonescapes
@@ReasonStudios How about a combi version of the Oberheim SEM filter? Or if you're feeling ambitious, the whole SEM module! Pop a few of those together with the Distributor CV voice RE for a crazy poly. Or just feature the Obsession, lol
Hi awesome video and sounds convincing too! I just can't seem to open it in Reason - keeps saying selected file is wrong format or corrupt. Running Reason 11. Any ideas? thx
Get the FREE Combinator patch for the RE-12 emulation here: www.dropbox.com/s/ghefo4trkxxkhza/RE-12.zip?dl=0
dont know why but its saying bad patch format , the selected file is in the wrong format or corrupt ........and its not working :(
does this need reason 12 to work?
@@nebstaism It does.
@@ReasonStudios ok thanx
This sound crazy but im unable to get this going im using R10
This is one of the coolest sound design videos I've ever seen. A big part of why I chose Reason as my DAW is that I really liked how you guys do your tutorial videos. Great content, great sense of humor, interesting and creative ideas. This is really so cool for hip hop producers. I'm very impressed and inspired.
You can make any sound in Reason stock device's no plugins. The Subtractor designe copys the SP12 by the way.
@@HOLLASOUNDS Show me, this is the problem with reason. Everybody who uses it is a sound engineer and it's such a steep learning curve. I pirated it for years because it was it had a nice sequencer I could understand. And I almost went for frutiloops. I have learned over the years how it works by trial and error and scattered tutorials. What I found was reason is good at in my opinion is interface and the sequencer. The biggest fault of Reason is lack of tutorials. Just simple modern stuff like synths of the 90-10. I get nostalgia but nostalgia can be a great limitation if you don't inspire your audience as a grand of many flavors.
@@neon-viper7434I dont have a problem with Reason. As for tutorials ReasonStudios and Previously Propellerhead have a manual for every one of there devices and there are tutorial in depth tutorials for every device in made by Reason. Reason also choose affiliated UA-cam channels that also do great tutorials for Reason and highlight them on there website and UA-cam channel. Literally everything you could possibly want to know is offered by them or the channels they affiliate them selfs with and or promote. Any questions you have you can email ReasonStudios direct and they will respond and help you with what you want to know.
@@HOLLASOUNDS Tutorial on how to use it is one thing, how to create a specific sound is another,
Yeah, feel the same. I like how they invest in making educational content for their DAW. Such great way to advertise.
Ryan just has a $4000+ sampler collecting dust at the bottom of his junk closet. Great vid & thanks
It's terrible right!? You know what's even weirder. I was given that SP-12 for free by another musician who had it in their junk closet and I went over one day 12 years ago and they were like "oh hey, do you want this? I'm probably tossing it." And I was like "um... YEAH!" /ryan
Yea at this point it's just a money thing the people who are saying that are just seeing dollar signs but us smart ones are making the music, I usually ignore them and rock out on my tape deck mpc x and roland sp404 those people are delusional and it's mostly in their heads.
The emulation that you created does sound close to being identical, but the SP 12/1200 sound that people are searching for isn't that simple. There is a reason that most plugin emulations of the SP 12/1200 sound so exaggerated. When those machines were new, people would sample from wax in to them, but as you mentioned in the video, they both had limited sample time. In order to compensate for the lack of sample time, the users would speed the record up while sampling. In other words, they would take a 33 1/3 rpm record and speed it up to 45. Then once inside the SP 12/1200, they would pitch the sample back down to it's original pitch/sound. This essentially did two things. For one, it took in to account the SP 12/1200's pitch algorithm. It also actually decreased the sample rate. That process added artifacts and aliasing to the sound. This is what you hear in plugins that seem to be overexaggerated in comparison to your example here.
Now, if you want to prove how accurate your emulation truly is, you would need to sample a drum break from a 33 1/3 rpm record that is being played at 45 rpm's in to your SP 12. Then, pitch the sample down to it's original sound/pitch. Then take an observation of the artifacts and aliasing that you hear imbedded in the sound. I don't have an SP 12/1200. If I did, I would make a video comparing your emulation to the real thing. I would, however, be really interested in seeing someone else do that.
Just my $.02.
Those are all great points! And you're correct that the sample rate scaling, when pitching down, has its own sound contribution. That was why I gave people fader access on the Combinator to pull the sample rate down further if they want to but I didn't get into the pitched element of the Sp-12 sound in the video because it's no longer an audio effect you could apply to any signal. To get the pitched sound you need to also... well, pitch the sound. :) So the kick drums get deeper, the snare get beefier and looser sounding. That all happens from pitch transposing in a way no audio effect (aside from something like Polar's pitch shift) could replicate. But you've got me curious now how this Combinator would sound if you did pitch a sample going into it and then scale down the sample rate a bit. Maybe I'll try that out. /ryan
@@ReasonStudios What if you recorded an impulse, then pitched it down on the sampler, then used that in a convolution reverb? Could that capture some of the character and reproduce it?
@@soviut303 It's a great suggestion and I'll give you the as-yet unannounced news that I plan to make a follow up to this video where I tackle the pitched sound of the SP-1200 /ryan
Also, to add on to the pt. kb420 said above, it’s not just the drums. What people are actually really looking for in the SP is what SP-heads call ‘the Ring’. It’s most distinctly heard on instruments like a Rhodes. I best described as like a warm attendant buzzy overtone, like when a piece of plastic is broken on an old radio or car stereo. It’s fuzzy & dusty. I think it results from having the resonance torqued all the way up on a filter or something. Watch videos by ‘Khaderbai’, or ‘Chief Rugged’ for beats, or ‘Low Hiss’ who created a software emulator (eSPi) to recreate it. It’s that buzzy mellow overtone that does it for us (+ the phenomenal beat-crunch which you just adeptly recreated 🙏) but if I had to choose just 1, old heads like myself just go nuts for the buzz - ‘the Ring’.
Right the pitching down sound is what matters
Hey Ryan, "THAT SOUND" we often talk about is actually when your sample is recorded at 75rps instead of 33 or 45, then in the sp12 you slow it down back to normal speed and it has a cool punchy lofi sound.
Also what would be REALLY cool is if we as a Reason community could all upload white/pink noise samples of our particular samplers.
I'm dying for an ASR-10! :O I've been match Eqing guitar for years and this is a similar thing. for lofi i often lean towards Decimort 2 or Tal Dac.
Great video btw :)
Yep thats where the real magic happens. In the emu emulator-x soundcard that has the same chip you could do the same. And the arturia emu vst has a knob for this to get that same effect
@@mennovanderlaan6695 nice i haven't checked out the Arturia one, can you import your own samples?
@@DynastyUK yes even assign to obe and multiple key and pads
@@mennovanderlaan6695 Same chip? I'm sure it doesn't. Neither A/D D/A converter nor processor are the same.
@@peterpiper0815 ah yeah your right. Got confused about that you need the edsp chip on the emu soundcard to use the sp12 effect in emulator x.
Been a while since i used it
what a nice gift, thank you so much! its always fascinating how close you can emulate gear just by adjusting the tonal balance. SM57 vs SM7B is a good example too
It might be a crime in some places to store a SP-12/1200 like that! 🤣
SP-12 screaming in Birdman voice: "put some respek on my name!"
@@yitao_ lmao!!!
Staged as hell 😉
hshaha 😂
I love your videos. I've used Reason for over 20 years, and I use it daily, but I would never think to use some of the methods you describe. Very useful. Thanks.
What if you created an impulse response and loaded it in RV7000? Technically, wouldn't it be a 1:1 frequency response?
The impulse response is how sound reacts to the space a sound lives in. Not the sound itself. By altering the sampling rate you are altering the source,
Love these more technical and subtle videos. Blind A/B testing for the win. Great job Ryan and RS team
this is was one of most jaw dropping videos you made period!!!
Make an emulation combi for the ensoniq ASR-10 next!!
again, YES!
Yess!! Been trying to get this sound for ages. Ryan, you little beauty 🙏
I hope Propellerheads pays this guy well! Excellent tutorials...dude be droppin dat science lol!
Really awesome stuff Ryan. Combinators like these could benefit from being added to the instrument/fx browser under combi's with screenshot abiility, they are that useful.
That's a cool idea! /ryan
THIS!!!
yes I was trying to figure out where to place this .cmb file @@ReasonStudios
Downloaded reason just to try this and it's unbelievably good 👊 great work. Would love to see some other vintage gear get this treatment. Mpc 60, ASR 10, mpc 3000 ect
That's awesome! You know, a lot of people have been recommending the ASR-10 and one of the MPC. I might look into if I can do one of those (or both!) but I don't have the hardware so I'd have to see if someone I know does maybe. But I love that people want a follow up to this. Thanks for watching and trying it out! /ryan
@@ReasonStudios Ryan this is very needed now! Especially since the release of the MPC SE ands it’s lack of comparison to classic MPCs.
the ASR-10 would be a DOPE rack extension, between the RX1200 and that all my original idol producers (ALC, RZA, etc) hardware would be in east coast boom bap producer’s rack
In the 90s a friend of mine ASH had a sp1200 at a time where DAW and MPCs were dominant this guy was so dope with it, he was considered the emperor of E-MU seemless timeless samples, he booked gigs just for people to see his prolific production style unfortunately, he died in a car accident . But he was unforgivable and I miss him , really at this time back in Jersey WU-tang RZA style chopping or DJ primo every joe was trying to do something like that. before MADDLIBZ or flying lotus there was ASH a unknown producer but I say if he was still here Ash would have been the king of the sampling because he worked hard at not using samples for the sake of sampling . He made it sound effortlessly using obscure soundscapes over a sort of breakbeat live mixtape style that I incorporated into my own music . And reason makes all that so easy because of it’s endless combinations that you don’t have to do as much to create that experimentation from hours of crate diving Dr Rex ,combo ,chords ,lead sample maybe a additional layer. Found out through the years of making beats that there’s a Beauty in just 4 track production that really captures the Rawness that is second to none and when you go up Ash would get irritated and I found myself doing that now but I didn’t understand this concept back then because of the overproduction on the charts was what everyone wanted at this time it was ridiculous to Ash because it wasn’t needed because people were recording in these industry 96 track studios of Manhattan which was good for finals but would really choke out the creative process Ash would come in with the 1200 and put these big wig productions to shame. He is sorely missed.
thats really beautiful. i’m sorry for your loss. do you think there are uploads or archives of his music? it sounds like it’s some of the best stuff ever.
Ryan, you're THA MAN. Thank you for this wonderful gift.
This is great Ryan. Definitely nailed the vibe.
Some Mimic updates would be lovely now - combined with this (pun intended) would be amazing. I'd particularly like some new grid slicing modes to really emulate that old skool sample chopping workflow!
You can hear the difference in the low end of the kick. The Sp hits harder
This is the exactly reason UA-cam was made. Such a great, in-depth overview - great job! The White Noise approach is a fantastic approach!
The first good video from the Props I see in the Reason Studios era - in fact one of the best videos I've seen on sound design in general... and with a useful handout
The sample from the SP12 has a lot of mor dynamic
This SP-12 (and not SP-1200, because that is a different beast in itself!) makes me realize how much hardware gear is important to "bringing life" to samples and sounds.
Enjoyed this!
Love this. Shows how powerful Reason is! Maybe this could become a series. Maybe emulating a Lexicon or Bricasti reverb next ;)
So cool! Thanks for this! I'm going to get reason now just for this! (I was already leaning towards it anyway! )
loved this video! would love to see more of these videos that show the magic of reason without focusing solely on promoting the newest rack extension
The sound those plugs are trying to emulate is sampling into the SP1200 at 45 RPM or something, then pitching the sample back down. That's where all that grainyness people like comes into play. Any hip hop till about 93' has that sound. Just sampling a loop into the SP without changing the pitch is kind of missing the point...
Ryan, I just fell in RE-Love with Reason.. Wow!! We've been together since 1.0. She gets better with age! Thanks for this RE-12 Template! Great vid!! 🙌🏽😏
This is absolutely wonderful. I was trying to do this a few months ago, and didnt think to use the Scream for downsampling. Thanks!
This is very cool, many thanks Ryan. I'm loving the bad cable feature on this.
The bass sample showed the most noticeable difference between SP-12 and emulation. The SP-12 had top end noise and aliasing artefacts that the emulation didn't. Nevertheless, the method is excellent.
Reason studio folks, if you are listening. I am staying in version 11. Don't care about subscriptions or getting the all you can eat menu. I do care about Reason for things like the ones shown in this video. Like when you introduced easy sampling in all devices. This is an excellent video that reminded me why I liked Reason so much. Now, give me an M1 native binary and I will buy the upgrade right away. And congratulations, excellent and inspiring video
Wow, you get the SP-1200 sound but actually cleaner without the airiness in the background. This is actually a big come up. Thank you Sir.
OH Another tip! You could have made an Impulse Response of the white noise and put it in the RV7000 to get the EXACT eq curve :)
Ryan you are a true master at these types of videos, always love the history lessons and production value. Keep at it
Ableton user, will probably never switch. How comes this is still one of the most valuable content for music production on yt?😂
Love your chanel, great stuff!
That White Noise gag is gold 😆
any chance of getting this as a plugin to use for other DAWs. I'm on Logic would love to use this.
Raleigh Simmons. You are a great engineer and I have learned soooo much from you quickly. Thank you.
Omg “white noise” had me dyin 🤣🤣🤣
Wow! Ive watched this video three times. Shit's like magic. So genius
Amazing method, you blew me away with the white noise thing 👌
Insanely Awesome! Will use in my Conga grooves!
Great video!
HOWEVER, There’s a huge thing you are missing here.
For a lot of us sp12 and sp1200 users, the sound we love is the sound of the machine aliasing. We would sample stuff in at 45 so we could sample more and then once it’s in the machine we slow it down to its original pitch. This is when the aliasing takes effect and we have that classic SP grain.
I see what you did there with the colors of the two channels. ♥️
This was the greatest watch in a long time. I really like the whole approach and of course the result. Also this makes me miss my SP 12 and 1200
Amazing. I just upgraded from 10, and I'm psyched to check this out - thank you, and thanks for showing us how you did it.
Its a VERY very close combination. I just hear a little more hiss living in the whole spectrum. i could not hear it with the first drums only when you went to the bass and synth tones. its a great thing. how about adding a small window giving us an ableton like 8 but just give us say 5 bands to use or 3.. so we can add just a little meat in those kicks or snap on those snares... love the gui btw. is there any tutorials on making combinator gui's u know of.. as you seem to have it perfect.. thanks for sharing to the world. and love the channel. now you need to do a mpc ver :)
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My first time watching and I'm officially hooked👍🏿 Thank you, now I just have to figure out how to get back into my Reason account and try this out. Possible game changer!!!!
let us know if you need help!
Ryan is a great guy and that's a good idea, for me basically, being a hip hop producer I like that I now have the Re-12 flavor in my beats
Pretty, pretty, pretty good
This is really awesome Ryan, thank you
Awesome. That was inspiring. Thank you for sharing the white noise method with us. It's pleasing seeing this type of content.
Hey, ingenious break down and clever approach. I loved every minute. If it be possible, will you please make available both the original white noise and the SP 12 processed white noise so we can dail in the eq curve with third party eqs. Thank you so much for this video.
The dramatic effect in the closet 😂
This is what we need! More of this!
One of the best results I've seen. Sadly nothing can replicate if you hear it in person
Did you try A/B blind test? The rest is probably just the person listening prejudicing himself because they see a hardware unit playing (the "nostalgia"/"hardware" factor)...
AW man ok I cant wait to give this a go .. THANK YOU!
OOF never mind doesn't work anymore
man, i almost died from laughing at that white noise joke.
I love the “owe, god damnit!” as he’s digging the sp12 out of the closet. Not the point of the video but I feel like we all say that exact phrase as we are digging through a closet. 🤣
So people you see what he just did right you can make your own effects unit with the combinator
Great lesson!
I've been looking for a tool that can give this crispy-awesome sp-1200 sound, Men you crush it, thanks!!!
This is great, you really nailed the sp12 sound for a 1 to 1 comparison it sounds alike. Would you make a sample using the technique that we used on the sp1200 and sp12 to get that 90s lofi hiphop sound? Sample sound in at a fast rate then tune it down in the machine back to its original sound at normal playback. That is when the actual lofi magic (lol) happens with these samplers. Anti aliasing, ring, lofi sound etcetera. Great video! 👏👏
This is great not only for the science but the fun of emulation with what Reason already has to offer right under the hood! Plus you are the master teacher! ?keep up the great work! I will watch, learn, and share!
PS- I first was attracted to this SP-1200 E-mu device or instrument due to my interest in learning more about how the Belgian 80's group Front 242 could have possibly made entire records using just samples and this device. the Album "Geography" has many songs each with its own industrial or early sample synth electro IDM or whatever you classify their early music. I know this is a paragraph but I would be grateful to ask you special questions that you could hear and most probably answer within a quick response, or longer, I am open. But, again, there is much to unpack with the album, and in do know the source of many of the samples , shhhh....but the reason I am asking is because they use it or the SP1200 or 12 I mean, in such a way that it appears they are just running and gunning it. But, I know as an adult that this is not the case. They seem like geniuses and indeed have influenced many others like Trent Reznor and NIN, and others. But, I mainly focus on the early album "Geography" because it is the most electronic synth, electro drum beat, minimal, and ambient and ok hardcore punk without the later 90's version when they use other gear and their style genre morphs to Industrial proper. Thanks again. For your inspiration!
LOL the drums at 17:32 is the very same drums used Benny the Butcher and Jcoles song "Johnny P's Caddy"
ALC killed that beat. i heard they originally couldn’t clear the sample of the original version and that was a remade beat. i’d love to know the sample they couldn’t clear
I still hear a tiny more pump on the low end and a little bit of mid-highs, but it's crazy close. Great video Ryan 👍
Love your work good sir!! Much Gratitude
Nicely done, from my memory the emu had different filters on each of its outputs. That was also part of its flavor. It may have been the 1200... adding that it would make this complete.
That's right, the outputs on the back of the SP-12 are progressively more rolled off.
@@ReasonStudios Also slope (db per oct0 ) differrences
this damn impressive, really interesting method, wish I had Reason now haha
Cool video, more like this please!
Some anecdote: I've sold a SP-1200 (1997 black re-issue with the sought-after filter chips) a few years ago for 320000 Yen. Still regretting it! Now they are listed on auction sites from anything between 900000 to over 2 million Yen. Crazy!
How to I use this as an insert effect so that I can apply to any track in the mixer. I flipped some things around and plugged some things around and no results. Help please.
@Reason Studios Hey would it be possible to get the samples you recorded from your SP 12 to copy the sound? I use FL Studio and I want to emulate the sound but I don't own a SP 12 or know anyone who has one.
Pitching change artifacts are where the magic and character really are
Way harder to emulate
This was really fun!
Good job! The combinator looks rad too.
That white noise joke was underrated 😂
Yawn...
Absolutely phenomenal video
I'm on the floor from the white noise clip.🤣🤣🤣
I’m guessing that you could do the same thing to create speaker simulations without using IRs?
Hi... I am using reason 10.. I was wondering if i could get the GP 12 white noise to emulate the sound ?
I appreciate the hard work that went into this, But no one straight sampled into it. The signature sound comes from the recording of the pitched up sample and the stretch to get it back down to the same time signature producing that signature SP ring because of the lack of AA along with punch body and saturation .
You made me fully commit to reason!
Time stamp 8:44 that's exactly what bit reduction does . So that's Clever
White noise sample processed through the sp1200 - load into rv7000 put on max wet. In theory should blanket the sonics of whatever signal you put through it. We use this for making recordings sound vintage with impulse responses from old drum breaks.
can you show how to add the combinator to the rack? it gives me an error saying bad patch format. I am using reason 11.
that white noise joke was great
When can we use vst3 in Reason?? This is the most important... vst3 support, please more info about roadmap changes..
I'm surprised Arturia didn't do an sp1200 emulation. I mean, as far as samplers go, this thing has some serious history behind it.
Just to say thanks for all your tutorials.they have help with the giant leap I've made going from reason 4 to reason 12!originally I made tunage on an amiga 1200 comp using octamed!a whole 1.44mb floppy disks!had rebirth rb-338,although the disk broke-gutted!love to get it for doing quick sample bits.anyway,cheers squire Tonescapes
Its such a chore to search ones closet to find what you want to bring out.
This is cool, great video!
Yeah make this a regular series... Real gear remade in reason. 👍
Is there something you'd like to see attempted that you have in mind? /ryan
Great idea! Could be applied to classic presets from old analog synths or like this but covering MPC-60 for example.
@@ReasonStudios How about a combi version of the Oberheim SEM filter? Or if you're feeling ambitious, the whole SEM module! Pop a few of those together with the Distributor CV voice RE for a crazy poly. Or just feature the Obsession, lol
Thanks, I think I will be downloading that free RE-12 today
Hi awesome video and sounds convincing too! I just can't seem to open it in Reason - keeps saying selected file is wrong format or corrupt. Running Reason 11. Any ideas? thx
Super clever and a great result:)
That white noise joke 😘🤌🏾😂
Fantastic video Ryan!
Dope !! Thank you !!