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This aged well. LOL- Funny how the city passed 14-1 to build a new stadium and a new lease for the next 30 years.
Not a football fan but I moved to Jacksonville almost 2 years ago. Prior to moving all I kept hearing was "one of the largest cities in the US!", so I'm glad you covered that aspect of it. I'll say this: even though I'm not an NFL fan, the people in this town sure are passionate about the Jaguars!
I lived in both Northeast Florida and Southeast Georgia. For the longest time the Falcons were the team for the state of Georgia. When the Jaguars arrived much of Southeast GA became Jaguars fans simply because they were much closer compared to Atlanta. The locals were excited to have an NFL team an hour or less away.
I was real curious how this was going to work. Jacksonville is a fickle city made up of native Floridians, transplants and Navy families. I remember a few seasons in there was a huge no show from season tick holders because the temp on game day was 45 degrees, too cold for Floridians. The local newspaper did an article on this.
Way back in the day the Dolphins were the only professional sports team in the state. All of Florida were Dolphin fans.
Jacksonville is spread out. The downtown is nothing with part of it being run down. Jacksonville is like a huge suburb with a downtown. There isn't really much to do or see there. Crime has gotten worse.
The revitalization of the stadium district will have a significant impact, boosting the confidence of certain individuals as they navigate the area. Visitors may find themselves inclined to engage more deeply with the surroundings, given the lack of diverse entertainment options, particularly for those traveling from afar.
Not to mention the stadium having a roof and being modern again.
I have cousins in Jacksonville and they are huge Jags fans. They even went to the Rams home game in 2021 when the Jags were there.
Also worth noting that broke/greedy owners in established markets fought against Baltimore, St. Louis, and Tennessee’s bids for reasons that became quite obvious shortly after the expansion decision was made…
Went to Jacksonville at Thanksgiving 2021 and it is an empty city. So little to do there. Stadium and game was ok, seats cheap, prices reasonable.
Same. I was there this summer, not very busy.
@@danielbowden6330 i ended up visiting to zoo and then a small but fascinating distillery.
@@archstanton6102 do you go swimming I hear they have nice beaches tho ??
@theshape5187 i didn't have my own transport, so was limited to city. But i did hear about the beaches later.
Indianapolis is an empty city so does that mean they shouldn't have a team either?
I live less than an hour south of Jacksonville. You'd never know we are that close to an NFL team. And most people in my area are mostly Giants, Patriots, Eagles, Steelers, Dolphins or Bucs fans.
Sounds like you live Volusia county.
@@supremeb3563 Flagler
😮there is nothing wrong with TIAA Bank Stadium for the Jacksonville Jaguars. It was 10 or more years left before a possible replacement. Its not fed ex or the Coliseum in Oakland.
If you live in Jax, be aware that you will be paying for the renovations or replacement.
So what
@@paulkoza8652 As happens in ALL NFL cities Karen
Would like to hear JG9’s thoughts..
whatever it is it would be long-winded
He would tear this apart. It's at best cherry picking, at worst wildly inaccurate.
New York: Are we a joke to you?! @ Buffalo having no other team in their state.
The Jets and Giants play in New Jersey technically. It's weird but true! I know several Jets fans that hate the team not playing in New York (which would annoy me too!)
Sadly whenever the dolphins and Bucs play there most fans that attend are mostly from those teams.
Yep
Cuz everybody is at the budzone or the bar and not sitting at their seats. Yes I go to the game alot and its always pack in those areas.
Jacksonville was actually a bargaining chip city in the NFL in the 1980's.
Will you jackoffs cut the moving to London crap. The logistics of it are awful. How would they even make it work? I'm all ears. There is zero practicality in this happening. Zero.
Ikr. The NFL failed in Europe back in 2007
What they don't understand is the role having those London games plays in the sustainability of keeping the jags in Jacksonville.
I think it’s less about the Jags being bad, and more about the cost of an NFL game. If it was reasonable, of course people would go to a game, even if their team is bad, look at Michigan fans for years 🤣👌
Still, when you have to pay 300$ for a ticket, 20-30$ for parking, 40-50$ for food for the entire game.
You’re upwards the cost of a new Xbox or PS5
NFL games are a horrible choice. You can have a giant party at a bar , or buy a decent TV and games for the season for the same price as 1 regular season game with good seats.
I'm native of Jacksonville. And the whole renovations thing has been going on since 2006. And every time the team brings up wanting to do a complete overhaul of the stadium. They always want half the bill to be paid by the tax payers of Duval County, which is the entire city. But they always ask for it when losing, so the city always votes no. The tax payers don't wanna spend money on a losing franchise. 99 out of 100 citizens want the team to be there forever. But doesn't want to pay for renovations at this point. People I ask about what they think keep saying they would rather just pay to build a whole new stadium than renovations. The County has plenty of land available for use. Just has to be the right price.
In my opinion St. Louis should've been awarded the expansion team over Jacksonville, much bigger market and given thier recent XFL attendance should be able to support another team
But the NFL has failed twice in St. Louis.
@@stormytreemfnthe irony being Ram ownership pushed against St. Louis as an expansion city because they wanted the market for themselves.
St. Louis lost The Rams & The Cardinals why would the NFL go back for a third time?
@@fivehundrediq5212 LA lost 3 teams in it's history and got two. Prior to 2016 I could have said the same thing about them.
If St. Louis had supported the Cardinals, they wouldn’t have been looking for an expansion team. And by the way, Jacksonville’s old USFL team, the Bulls, averaged 40,000 a game, including 70,000-plus TWICE. Those two numbers are the highest ever for a Non-NFL team.
Don't.....doubt.....Jacksonville.
Aged like milk. Jags are here for at least the next 30 years. Not much of a struggle
I'm surprised this got recommended to me, as this whole narrative of the Jaguars being a team of struggle for its 30+ year of existing is, ironically, non-existent. Jacksonville, FL is a city that is on the rise as one of the fastest growing cities in America in terms of population, and while it's not likely a place for those to visit (as the phrase "there's nothing to do there" comes up so often), believe it or not, there are places to go; you just have to be a local to know.
As for the Jacksonville Jaguars:
Tarps didn't come off due to renovations, it came off at the request of fans in Jacksonville. London games exist for the sole purpose of generating popularity outside the U.S.; the Jags currently have fans overseas in the UK & Ireland as NFL International presences of those countries. The $2B stadium deal as of recent looks so good, even the past mayor (who is on the opposing political party in comparison to the current mayor) is pushing for this deal to go through.
Another thing: this person absolutely did not see the recent January 2023 Wild Card Playoffs game vs Chargers as the place rocked behind a sold out stadium despite the early 27-point deficit.
The Jacksonville Jaguars don't struggle to exist, they're fighting the world against them with these false narratives pitted against them every day. Whether that's relocation talks to L.A. from before the Rams & Chargers were relocated or in today's world: the UK which would not make sense at all logistically; the city stands tall against all the criticisms of outsiders.
Well said, go jags!
This whole video is nonsense and shows a lack of on location research. Jags fans are some of the best in the NFL. In fact, this week our City agreed on a total stadium renovation. We already built a brand new football facility last year. The Jags aren’t going anywhere. I don’t know why you and national media seem to always be pushing that the Jags are constantly looking to relocate. It’s simply not true. My guess is all your assumptions about Jax come from downtown. I suggest if you ever do visit Jax, take a drive to the beach, visit the Southside, take a boat cruise on the St Johns. There’s more to Jax than downtown.
I actually was there about 2 months ago, didnt get the impression that its a great nfl city, that deal isnt finalized yet either. If jax was such a great nfl city they wouldnt be playing in London every year…
Annnnd they’re staying for another 30 years. Find another city to trash. Go Jags
1. Jacksonville isn't struggling to support the Jaguars anymore. This video would he more appropriately in 2019.
2. The main reason for lack of local support in the 2000s and 2010s is that they sucked most of the time, and half the cities population are people who moved there from other places in the US. Many peoples are already fans of other teams and therefore don't have a connection to their local team.
3. Florida is SEC territory
@@RioluLucario1994 Whatever man.....
@@overbanked We talk about the Georgia Bulldogs and Florida State Football all the time, the Falcons may get a mention or two, but I've NEVER been that excited to watch the Jaguars. Its the same reason why an NFL team in Alabama wouldn't work. The Crimson Tide has been there so long that they would overshadow any NFL team that would move there.
@@RioluLucario1994 facts
You mean 2009 not 2019 dummy
Maybe the jags should move, but they should stay in America the only exception would be if they moved to Toronto. They could definitely support NFL team. I do not think moving them to London would be a good idea.
Part of Shahid Khan’s agreement in purchasing ownership is that the Jags keep the team in Jacksonville.
Shad promised Weaver that he would take control of ownership as long as the jags don’t move away from Jacksonville.
@@Graphics_Card He's gonna change his tune when they keep losing money every year. Plus he knows nothing about football. The Jaguars are one of the only teams to have never made the Stupor Bowl.
@@mizer9510 Um, this guys a businessman. How does he lose money every year? That problem sounds like a hiring manager problem, not an owner problem. Keep in mind that he has already invested millions of dollars in properties throughout the city. That changes nothing
@@Graphics_Card He's only interested where the money takes him, and when the lease runs out he will probably sell the team.
You have to win win win if you win i guaranteed you it’ll change. The ppl that don’t live in Jacksonville don’t know how a sold out stadium look in Jacksonville. You just have to win
Great analysis. I lived in JAX for 25 years and could not agree more with your statements.
This is ridiculous. No NFL team ‘struggles to exist’. They all make huge profits, including Jacksonville. Over the last dozen years, the Jaguars had only two winning seasons, yet they averaged over 60,000 a game. They’ve sold a lot more tickets than the Rams did in St. Louis, despite the Rams winning a Super Bowl and making another Super Bowl appearance. Jacksonville has more people than Buffalo and New Orleans; no one says their markets are too small. Finally, Northeast Florida is one of the fastest markets in the country.
They make profits because of revenue sharing, not because they are a successful market, if they were so successful they wouldnt be playing in London every year…
@@forgottenplaces9780 Yes, if not for revenue sharing, many small market teams -Buffalo, New Orleans, Tennessee, and Jacksonville would struggle. The Jaguars are doing fine, and are sold out of season tickets. The newly renovated stadium will make them even more profitable, and ensure they stay in Jacksonville for the next 30 years.
@@forgottenplaces9780we play in London because our owner owns a team over there, we signed a contract to play games over there because our team is bigger then any other nfl franchise over there get your facts straight we don’t have to play over there but you’ll lie on the jags for views 😂😂
@@blu2fquismac yea thats why, keep telling yourself that…
@@forgottenplaces9780 I don’t have to tell my self I’m a jags fan who actually pays attention to my team meanwhile you read fake articles and add even more lies to the fake articles. Do real research and stop lying on our team weirdo
Dont ever underestimate the Jaguars. Go Jags!!🔥
Uh no
Question: what market would the Jags be most likely to move to within the US here, or do you think they are destined to be the NFL's first permanent London team, and if so, will they maintain the Jaguar logo, or would it change?
The jaguars are not going anywhere.
@@richardpuckett8127 Yes they are
Moving to London is logistically impossible in every aspect
@@richardpuckett8127 Yes they are
The answer is this guy has no idea of what he's talking about.
The existence of the Jacksonville Jaguars always baffled me. They’re kinda like the NFL’s version of the OKC Thunder or Utah Jazz, which are super small markets that pretty much got teams by dumb luck. The real reason why Jax even has a team is because their owner was willing to build a gigantic brand new stadium at the right time. At the time, St. Louis or Baltimore probably deserved a team more than Jacksonville
Geographically, Jacksonville actually makes a lot of sense for a team. Football is practically a religion in the South, so if your team is halfway decent fan support and market size won’t be a huge issue (just look at the Saints). Jacksonville is also in a pretty good position, to where it’s far enough from Tampa/Orlando, Miami, Atlanta, and Charlotte. So the team pretty much owns all of North Florida and Southern Georgia which is actually a huge plus. Not to mention that Florida and Georgia are growing like crazy.
In any other universe Jacksonville would not have a team. I personally think that Orlando would’ve been a better option for a 3rd team in Florida, but J-Ville isn’t too bad I guess
Believe or not, Jacksonville is actually the largest city in Florida. Area wise it's one of the largest in the country. Orlando is the 4th largest city in Florida, though it is a larger market, because it is more well known/visited. Orlando would be a tough sell for the NFL, simply because it is less than 100 miles from Tampa, and the competition for marketshare would be tough.
Actually the city got on the NFL map because the Jacksonville Bulls of the USFL in the 80’s had the highest attendance average in the entire league (by a wide margin I might add) during their existence.
I caught at all not you elitists who call 1.75 million people "small."
😂 Yeah right Go Jags!🐆
Every team struggle with ticket sales so why do you keep pointing out struggles when ticket sales have been good for years now. I have lived in Atlanta in the early 90s and the Falcons had blackouts and empty seats because they lost a lot so the point is if you lose the fans don’t come but if you win then they will come..Jacksonville has to go through it like every other team.
The stadium deals aren’t good for the communities. I’m hoping that the team moves from Jacksonville, since it would benefit the city to spend that money otherwise
Move them somewhere else or give them a new stadium at least
move them to STL or OKLA
So many haters...Keep on hating, while Jax and the Jags get better and better.
This comment aged poorly
@@mizer9510 Only to someone that's micromanaging. Things happen man (Trevor's injury)...
@@overbanked He's not that good.
Relocating to become the London Jags is the likely outcome here. Jaguars name kind of make sense due to famous British car brand.
Having a NFL team overseas would be too much to ask for plus travel expenses is horrendous across the board
Jaguar cars sued us for our first logo. So no that connection can’t legally happen.
lol who would be in their division? the travel would be nightmarish and precious few free agents would want to move across the atlantic ocean
@@SunshineStateCoasters didn’t know that they had such a contentious history. Thanks for sharing
@@mjisthegoat88 On a professional athlete’s salary, London is a fun place to live. It’s definitely more desirable for free agents than several US cities that have teams currently.
I thought Tenn titans struggled to have a team 😮
Another hit piece
Instead of building local support they are worried about building international audience.
You picked an ancient skyline pic of Jax 0:51
That was the point, i was trying to go back as close to the time period i was referring to.
I gotcha. Even though that pic is from the eighties; way before a NFL team to Jax was even thought of
Jaguars ain’t leaving Jacksonville
There’s no mystery.
It’s a poor city.
That’s the answer to all your questions.
If the Jaguars were a well run team they'd be doing just fine.
Move the team to London. It’s 10’million in the metro area and the whole UK market
If the SST ever comes back, maybe.
Can the Jaguars move to Orlando, St. Louis, Columbus, Raliegh, Oklahoma City, Memphis, Portland, San Diego, Sacramento, Salt Lake City, San Antonio or Austin?
San Diego Jags would be good. Give the San Diego fans what they wished for after losing The Chargers or St. Louis would be another great option
@@danrhone9756San Diego is better than Jacksonville
#1 Half of these cities are crap, #2 Jerry Jones will never allow a third team in Texas. #3 Some of these cities don’t have the money or location to build a new stadium #4 Some regions are dominated by one Team which saves money on expanding another franchise
I doubt 3 teams in Ohio would work.
- bucs would fight
- lost two teams
- three teams, one smallish state
- NC can’t support both
- small market
- small market
- no stadium
- no stadium
- niners would fight
- small market
- jerry won’t allow it
- jerry won’t allow it
in 2028 new staduim their staduim is kinda full now
Before you start bashing on Jacksonville, People forget Green Bay only has a population of 100,000
Not the same, Green Bay has Milwaukee to draw from and the whole state of Wisconsin, not to mention a much longer history of success.
@@forgottenplaces9780 I am from Milwaukee and could care less about the Packers. They are 2 hours away. And Milwaukee really isn't a big market in fact it's the smallest market in the MLB. Jacksonville is the 12th largest city in the country way bigger than Milwaukee.
@@dvferyance did u watch the video? Jacksonvilles only 11th because of land area, its not really that big, and yea ive been there…
@@forgottenplaces9780 I have been there too. It's smaller than places like Atlanta and Charlotte but it's still bigger than Milwaukee and I live here so I know. And Milwaukee doesn't really count as the Packers market since they are a 2 hour drive away. Now prior to 30 years ago when they played a couple of games here you could make that argument but since they now play all their games in Green Bay you can't.
Green Bay got they team way back in the day when NFL first started in small towns before they hit the real biggest cities a lots of small Town teams folded and green Bay was one of the only small town teams stayed around plus the Packers was the face of the league because they destroyed teams and was always in the championship games and they fans the whole city even though it's small every one sell out at they games
They were supposed to go to St Louis and be the Stallions. But the NFL decided to continue its longstanding tradition of screwing St Louis.
Jags are not struggling. Misinformation Video. Disliked.
Go Jags!!
Yea this video is BS. Do your research. We are more than capable of paying half for this stadium to be redone. Its Jacksonvilles stadium to renovate to begin with. We own it. So to have an NFL owner willing to pay half is a huge plus. We did half on the practice facility (that Jax owns) but the Jags use and maintain. Shad has even taken over caring for Everbank and Metro park. Huge tax relief for us. Our new Gov has been a life long season tix owner. I dont see her letting the Jags go. Its to important for the city....and her career lol. But Jax is growing by 1.2%+ annually. So the tax burden continues to decrease as long as that growth continues. Its a really a great place to live. Yes we have crime. So do a lot of major cities. We have some of the best weather. Especially in Oct-May. Late Jan and beginning of March can be cold. But the rest of the time is some of the best weather you'll ever have. Jax just needs to start promoting their culture more. Its where Hollywood started. Promote that! Its the birth place of Southern Rock. Promote that. Ray freaking Charles got his start here in LaVilla. Promote that! We have so much that just isn't shined on. Need to turn that around! Oh and dont forget the 4seasons being built right across the road from Everbank. Shad owns this hotel and its already started construction.
No ones put up a billion dollars in public money for a stadium to this point, and Jacksonville is the least qualified to do so and thats not even for a new stadium, when Miamis owner wanted money for a rennovation the city told him to pound salt and he paid for it himself. There frankly isnt the tax base or desire based on polling for the project, if that went to the polls it would fail by a decent amount. What are they gona do add a 50% hotel tax? See how that works out. The only way that project happens is either its mostly privately funded, the state gives them a handout like Ny did to Buffalo, or the project is massively scaled down.
@@forgottenplaces9780 you think its just for the stadium. More than that. Miami has more clout to say no. Jacksonville doesn't have that luxury. Most cities with NFL teams have that luxury.
Move it to Mexico City
I can’t wait to see the follow up to this BS story….How you like us now? 😂
If they move within the state Orlando would be a logical choice. St. Louis & San Antonio would be good outside the state area.
I dont really think orlando would fare much better, not because of the number of people but because so many are from somewhere else
Bro Orlando stadiums suck
4:26 'why are the Jaguars still talked about for possible relocation?' Because people have their heads up their asses and keep using the same talking points from 2 decades ago. Even though 3 other teams have relocated during that time, funny none of them were the Jaguars
Not really, those teams leases had expired, the Jaguars lease has not, nor was even close to until recently. You cant just move a team whenever you want to, thats the point of a stadium lease and why Cleveland got another team, because Modells move was illegal and the NFL knew theyd lose in court.
Move the team to St. Louis, Missouri.
Why? They haven't actually struggled with attendance since 2009
Where 2 other NFL teams have failed there. Great idea!
You have no idea what you're talking about. None.
Your welcome.
Smh we haven't struggled to exist in almost 10 years
Only the Brits remember that Jacksonville has a team
That’s very short sighted of you
They should have never went there to begin with. NFL dropped the ball (no pun intended) when they didn't award the team to St. Louis.
Odd saying this after a whopping they did today
That's because Charlotte and Jacksonville shouldn't exist in the NFL they should've let the Baltimore Stallions and the St Louis Knights exist, better yet add the Memphis Pharaohs and San Antonio Bobcats would work as well
And let Ohio have 3 teams. NFL was born and bred in Ohio plus the HOF here. Columbus needs a team. It’s has a far better economy, metro more ppl and growing, it’s building up the city etc
Orlando has everything that Jacksonville doesn’t: a major international airport, 130,000 hotel rooms to Jacksonville’s 20,000, endless amounts of world-class attractions and restaurants, and the 17th-largest TV market in the country (Jacksonville is 41st). Orlando gets 70 million tourists a year while Jacksonville gets 6 million. Orlando's tourism tax collects $300 million per year while Jacksonville collects $5 million. Both have big football stadiums that are asking for a lot of public money for renovations.
I was a vocal advocate against Orlando’s Major League Baseball stadium proposal because it was clearly a bad investment. Baseball is a boring, dying sport (notice the A’s and Rays are building stadiums that are the smallest in MLB) and no major events want to play an MLB stadium. Renovating Camping World Stadium into a world-class, covered NFL stadium will bring every big event Orlando could possibly want. It will also mean Orlando's giant stadium actually has a tenant.
jacksonville could a been bigger they declined to be hollywood so they went to california jacksonville was also the first harlem before new york we could be just like yall but they declined theme parks and etc smh
@@Play2Win18all thanks to that church downtown haha
Religion ruined Jacksonvilles development lol
1. Hollywood before Hollywood
2. Harlem before Harlem
3. Biggest Zoo in the US was initially planned for Jax but after they declined they went San Diego lol
I hate First Baptist church
🤣@@DrBoulter
I don’t think Jacksonville should have a team, so I’m gonna do a whole video of exaggerating and making 💩up to support what I already believed.
I’m so sick of people like this. The city does not struggle to support the Jags. At all. Leave us TF alone.
I pass the stadium almost every day - I live in the ghetto north of the stadium. Jacksonville should only have a team if billionaire Kahn pays for it himself. They are a sub .500 team for the last 15 years - they suck
@@ellwoodwolf this goofy 💩 you said has nothing to do with anything, just your opinion on something I wasn't talking about.
Fr jags fans are some of the most loyal fans I know (including me)
PREACH!
Duuuuuuuuvalllllll!
I heard that when Jacksonville hosted the Super Bowl in 2005 they had to dock cruise ships because they didn't have enough hotel rooms. Probably the reason why they haven't gotten another Super Bowl.
The city politicians suck there
We had a lack of hotels and still do. Not near as bad but need more in the core. Yes, that was a complaint about the lack of strip clubs. We shouldn’t have gotten it when we did.
The part about the cruise ships is true. I often wonder how large a bribe was made to get Jax as the host city for the Super Bowl.
@@mattmccarthy409 probably as big of a bribe as it took for the Super Bowl to be played at Met Life Stadium
It's less about the Jaguars themselves and more about the fact that Florida and GA are SEC territory. The NFL will always play second fiddle to college football
You can’t be serious. I’ve lived in Jax 20 years, and the Jags have waaaaaaaay more support here than any college team. It’s not close either….I’m not a Jags fan, but the locals love them here….when they’re are winning, it’s easily the hottest ticket in town.
This is true.
@@clarencedolan699 They only have support when they are winning. Ask most people who live there who their favorite team is and they will say some other team. Also there is way more college support for the Seminoles, Gators, and Hurricanes not to mention other SEC teams.
@@mizer9510 I’ve lived here for 20 years. I don’t have to ask anyone. The Jags are easily the number one team in Jax and the number one attraction. It’s not close.
@@mizer9510 Most SEC teams don’t have an NFL team anywhere near those cities, that’s why those college teams have so much support. I’m from ATL and the Falcons are a much bigger draw than the Dawgs and I love my Dawgs, but in the ATL, it’s Falcons country and of course, no one roots for Tech. All you have to do is look at the TV ratings. NFL is the King and that’s compared to all TV programming. There’s not a close 2nd. I love college football, it’s my second favorite sport, it just can’t touch the NFL. If you did your own due diligence, you’ll know that.
Winning will cure a lot of problems and there is at least some hope of contending now. A couple of years ago it seemed bleak and moving inevitable. The stadium situation is a tough one. The price tag for renovation is very steep and given their history, a couple of peaks but a lot of rough times, justifying that investment is hard. But it looks for now like plans are moving forward. What they have in their favor is a state that would likely pitch in and the fact there are not any obvious places to relocate. LA and Vegas were the relocation jewels but those are now taken. Toronto? St Louis? London? All have issues. Staying put may now be the best option. Somewhat surprisingly.
Move the Jags to Meico City. Huge popoulation. Probably enthusiastic fan base. And the team name fits perfectly.
@@paulkoza8652 You do realize that Khan isn’t interested in moving the team, right? Nobody who intends to move spends the amount of money he’s spent on the stadium AND the surrounding area - no business man or business woman would. Owners who intend to move a sports franchise spend VERY little to no money on the existing stadium or current community because they need those funds for moving trucks, new stadium, relocation fees, all-new advertising campaigns, all-new merchandise…. the list goes on and it is LOOOONG.
@@jrvegeeta Very much disagree. The owners get the city and its taxpayers to foot the bill. They could care less about pulling a team. Don't believe me - just look at all the franchises who have moved in the past 20+ years. The biggest reason the Jags have not moved is that they have no place to go. Just about all of the major markets have teams. Khan has no loyalty to Jax. The ideal place to move the team would be Mexico City and the mascot would fit in perfectly there.
@@paulkoza8652San Diego, Salt Lake City, Oklahoma City (OKC), and San Antonio TX, would beg to differ, lol
there is just not enough of momentum
This video is like 10 years outdated. Fun fact were upgrading our stadium and renewing our lease. Gtfoh with this bs
Also the city and county are the same through consolidation Nashville has an identical city county deal
I love these b.s. videos now. After the new 30year deal😂😂
I love how you wait till the news suits your point of view to comment, doesnt change the fact that they struggle to exist, anyone can write a check…
@@forgottenplaces9780they don’t struggle to exist. They are in the top half of the NFL for profit. They do just fine. They’re the only game in town in Jax and that works to their advantage. The new stadium deal locks them in for 30+ more years.
I wonder what city Modell would've moved the Browns to if Baltimore had been selected as an expansion.
i think memphis or nashville
@@UserName-ts3spwell then where does Bud go after pissing off Houston
@@gbalph4Cleveland to get back at Art.
Well this video didn’t age well. New stadium and new 30 year lease.
I've heard people like you talked about a move for years Jacksonville Jaguars is never going anywhere once this new stadium gets built please make another video LOL hahaha 😂😂😂
Well nothings happened yet, so idk why your laughing…
@@gilbertgreeniii1706 thats your opinion, clearly u have to compensate your lackluster argument with a bunch of emojis since its a weak one…
@@gilbertgreeniii1706 no one said they were moving the last 2 decades just that their future is uncertain, im not stupid i know their bound by a stadium lease, but just because they submitted a plan doesnt mean its happening, imo the plan is too ambitious for jax to afford and it will be a great challenge to get a deal done.
@@forgottenplaces9780jags fans have been hearing move talk for two decades. Clowning people like you who don't actually know that's always been just low hanging fruit for cheap shot sports writers and hacks is as secondary to breathing to us now. And the city unveiled the stadium deal today. It's very favorable to the city. It will get done.
Yes, the future is bright in Jacksonville, & its NFL team, the Jaguars. Khan's 4 Seasons Hotel, part of his mega complex just went vertical, construction, wise. The city is investing in its downtown along with private companies to the tune of 5B already in various phases of development, as we speak. With the Jaguars putting their money where their mouth is, I can safely assume, the Jaguars are NOT going anywhere. Period.
What a crappy, ill informed video.
Your welcome.
@@forgottenplaces9780it’s you’re* dumbass video from a dumbass lol!
Going to come back to this video in 5 years and see how much the Jags and Jacksonville are flourishing. New stadium, new hotels, riverwalk, etc. JACKSONVILLE IS COMING!
This is bs . Jacksonville is bigger than several markets that have pro teams. Plus Jacksonville is a pretty nice place to live with nice beaches plenty of open space .
I'm a Jaguars fan because I lived in Jacksonville when I was a kid. I would be sad if they go. I hope they win a Superbowl before they do.
As of today October 1st, 2023 the Jacksonville jaguars are 9th in attendance in the NFL with over 72K per game. They have one of the best quarterbacks in the league in Trevor Lawrence and they are by far the best team in the AFC south.
By far? That’s funny, because as I check the standings all 4 teams in the division are 2-2 right now.
I was also thinking this.. but as far as overall talent is concerned. I get it. @@andrewalden8364
By far might be a bit of an exaggeration, but you are right that wins are the best antidote to a struggling franchise. There is at least hope now where it looked bleak a couple of years ago.
@@andrewalden8364funny how you only wanted to mention the record part but ran from the attendance part 😂😂 people love lying on Jacksonville but the truth is our games are always packed when they are not it’s because of the heat
@@blu2fquismac awww, was it too hot for you Jacksonville fans? So you only show up if the temperature is between 60-80 degrees. Some real diehard fans y’all have there!!!
There is a 100% chance the new Jags stadium deal will fall apart. By 2028, the Jaguars WILL find a home in a different city. Mark my words.
I hope
I mean, the city council just approved it today. It's a favorable deal for the city that off loads a lot of expenses onto the jags.
@@chivasregaldown the city council doesn’t officially approve until next month. And if I had a dollar for every “approved” project in Jacksonville that was never built…..
@@restfulambiancehq157 It just got APPROVED approved. Jags are here to stay
I marked your words and nothing happened. What happened to the 100%chance dude? 😆
You couldn’t be more wrong 😂. Jags are very much alive and well 🐆
Jacksonville doesn't struggle with the Jaguars. And no we don't have attendance problems. The only time Jacksonville had attendance problems. Was after the financial collapse in 2008-09. And thats because of blue collar workers not working. Jacksonville absolutely supports the Jaguars. Its been years since seats were tarped. Its been years since we have had a blackout game. And just because you see empty seats on tv. Doesn't mean that people are not there. Because our stadium has indoor seating, and all the good seats. Have an indoor clubhouse. So unless they're winning? If its hot, cold, or raining, people go inside
Been to the stadium several times for the GA/FL game. It's a dump and the area around it isn't very welcoming either. Jags should move out.
Jacksonville being "empty" is a good thing but more people are moving there everyday
Winning cures everything...put a consistent winner on the field and 73000 seats will fill up every weekend.
Move them to Montreal. Olympic stadium is avalaible.
Montreal only supports Hockey and Soccer. Keep dreaming
How many of you remember the scene at the end "Blazing Saddles", when the bad guys go rolling into town, only to find it's all facades?
That's Jacksonville, Fl.
Now I can see why they are playing so many games in London
It was a plan by the owner Shad khan to make the jaguars an internationl team and try to make american football more popular overseas.
I hope they move.
@@ellwoodwolf The Jags aren't going anywhere, so your hope was wasted
@@ellwoodwolf Just approved a $1.4 billion stadium deal so you can go to hell.
Cleveland is hundreds of miles closer to Buffalo than Miami is to Jacksonville.
So?
Remember the pandemic? We thrived while your hotels & attractions sat empty. Btw, Disney wanted Jax but the city leaders back then were wary of basically, one investment company buying a ton of acreage & what it will do to the city, if they agree to that. So they said no, and then later found out, it was Walt Disney looking to expand his Disney parks in FL. He had no recourse but to look at your swamplands, Orlando. The rest is history. So, thank Jax for your good fortune & hands off fr my Jags, Orlando.
Jacksonville is on the come up.
I moved to Jacksonville in 2002 from the Philly area. There are a lot of transplants from Ohio. There are a lot more Browns fans here. Jacksonville is little Ohio
Sorry to disagree, but it is little Pittsburgh.
@@paulkoza8652 I actually don't see a lot of Browns or Steeler fans. I would say mostly Cowboy fans, Eagle fans, Patriot fans which are just band wagon fans, Packers fans, and Dolphin fans.
Jacksonville metro - 1,713,240
Toronto metro - 7,281,694
Woah....Toronto NEEDS AN NFL TEAM....Why does Jacksonville have one???
Tax abatements that's why - we shouldn't but do.
Toronto is a yankee country that's why
@@sampicano Because you have the CFL and TORONTO ALREADY HAS A TEAM 🤡
Hopefully this doesn't turn into a arizona Coyotes situation
London team
You do know Buffalo is in NY! As in the NY Giants and NY Jets!!
The giants and jets don't play in NY. Their stadium is in New Jersey
You need to take this video down, very misleading. They’re not struggling to have an nfl team. They have the richest owner in the league😂. Over a decade ago, the “not being able to sell tickets” narrative was debunked when it was revealed that there stadium (originally built for the Florida Georgia rivalry) had the largest seating capacity for the third smallest market. In other words there 60 to 70k game would still leave the upper decks empty because of the stadium size for for 100k. They’ve just signed two franchise cornerstones , one the richest contract in the league per position and the other resetting the market. The city is finalizing the new stadium…. It’s crazy to think that imaginary narratives from over a decade ago people still run with.
Honestly you can blame that on Tony khan
Tony doesn't even own the jags, he literally works for his dad who owns them
jacksonville was suppose to be holllywood before it went to california
They need to promote that! They need to promote a lot of their history.
That Wikipedia page was on your desktop for a hot minute huh.
The Jags will end up in St Louis or San Antonio when the stadium deal comes up
A large part of Jax is hopeful they leave.
@@ellwoodwolf hahahahahah.. Duval here for 30 MORE YEARS!!!! LOL DUUUUUUUUUUVALLLL
Guess this didn’t age too well 😆😆😆
@@ellwoodwolfthat’s false actually