twenty one pilots: 'Trench,’ Overcoming Insecurities, and What’s Next | Apple Music
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- Опубліковано 4 вер 2018
- Zane Lowe joins twenty one pilots’ Tyler Joseph for a rare interview in his home studio to discuss the duo’s hiatus and early success, spirituality, and battling personal demons. Stream 'Trench' on Apple Music: apple.co/B1twentyonepilots
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Seeing Tyler smile after a whole year gives me life again
Truly
Why ? Was it like challenge not to smile for a year ?
@@thisisfine1115 because seeing a person smile gives others hope
I can’t identify with Tyler but I am not an entertainer who makes millions so I suppose that’s why
tyler: I've ne...
*me in tears*: oh boy here we go
Same
ME
What minute???
😂 SAME
@@mohammadsamara8313 first 10 seconds
33:53 "I love creating, I need to create" --- Tyler, the creator.
AAAAAAYYYY
Would love a collab with them
Cookie or any collab for that matter
😂😂😂
@@bouzz4840 Amen! I'm thinking they combine tyler's synths and other instrumentation with some of TOP's more happy song styles. Though I wouldn't mind hearing Tyler, the Creator rap over a hip hop beat version of HeavyDirtySoul.
I LOVE this interview. Zane lets him talk and doesn't ask the same generic dumb questions like "WoUlD yOu RaThEr FiGhT 1 HoRsE sIzEd ChiCkEn Or 10 ChICkEn sIzED HorSeS"
I think tyler likes that question bc he goes into detail but maybe its just me
Well yeah, this is *Zane Lowe* we're talking about, not a local radio personality or red carpet interviewer. Interviews with respected individuals like him are almost required to dive way deeper, and that he did.
or "what's a blurryface?"
Or "Who is Clancy?"
Aw, yeah. Exactly!
7:14
'these kids have something to say and they're worth listening To'
Me: sOBS
I'M ALMOST CRYIng. hE KNOWS WE ARE FOLLOWING HIS LEAF IN THIS DARK WORLD, WHICH IS "hey sometimes it's hard, and yeah, we may be sad, but we are trying to help"
oH NY GOD I LOVE HIM
@@jishwadundiddly2959 oML YES
bro i legitimately cried, no one has ever said that about me and it hit me hARD
i cried too. being respected, appreciated, and understood for once feels insane. i love tyler.
*sobs loudly*
His little voice cracks give me life
Ellie Gavala
Same though
Tyler has three things I love.
1. He has a clue, meaning that he has his priorities right, how he goes about his music, everything.
2. he writes a narrative with his songs, his records. It’s been fun to follow Blurryface and Trench, but even vessel and Self Titled have their own little theme and story.
3. he has Pokémon figurines all over his home recording studio and didn’t bother to adjust them when doing a professional interview. That shows him being a real man right there.
Don't forget the little green soldiers! freaking original toys right there!
Pretty sure they’re all placed where he wants them to be
"When using Pokemon cards, please do not use the holographics!'
@@billyborus8587 still don't get it
@@RedK5 lyrics from Slowtown, off of their second CD, Regional At Best
“can i talk about her for a sec-“
YES PLEASE SO IDNSKDMD
Ummm. Time stamp please 😂😂😂😂
@@trentnastiuk5120 27:14
i literally cried. Their love is so special
@Dylan Forman taiga?????
@Dylan Forman yes taiga 😭
When he asked if he could talk about Jenna I got butterflies.
"Can I talk about her for a second?"
same it was so sweet
and im like talk about her all day! i love the way he describes their love and how he describes her as a person
That’s called true 💕
Get u a man who loves you like tyjo loves jenna
It may be impossible
there’s never going to be another twenty øne piløts. tyler and josh have something special that can’t be replicated and it is so special and i’m so grateful to be living in the moment along with their music.
Quintina Liu
Oh lordy, so true though..-
Just like Nirvana. Those are the ones that people talk about about years later.
-chainsmokers- lmao jk
Quintina Liu Same.😁👏👏
Just think; the universe is 13.8 billion years old, and you were placed into existence at the same time as Twenty One Pilots
Somehow after loving these guys for years I've never actually heard Tyler speak normally. He talks the way that I do. Very quiet and awkward and he takes a fair amount of time to construct his sentences and these are all things that I do and am quite insecure about so seeing someone I look up to speaking the same way is cool to me.
Same
same here, he also doesn't make much eye contact and looks around a lot which I relate to too.
I can also relate
I can totally relate to that.
Kyla Orchard I never noticed
I am really thankful for everything Twenty One Pilots does. They are helping with changing the mental health stigma, and showing people they aren't alone.
Depression Talks With Immanuel that’s already changed everyone has an issue now lmfao
@@RandomRaichu not everyone *really* does. people will say they have depression for attention. Some people will be sad for a bit and self-diagnose themselves with it. Although everyone does have an issue in a way, although your claim is wrong. The mental health stigma is still a thing and is very real and i stand by +Depression Talks With Immanuel on his claim and comment
ghost vibez I think everyone suffers from something, just the worst mental health is harder to help people find a way through if they can even get through it
Amen!
I like that the interviewer is so calm and patient, he really let Tyler tell his story without too much questions or interrupting
That's why I find this so calming and relaxing ❤ he had time to just talk, not just words but feelings
FIRST TIME HEARING TYLER TALK IN OVER A YEAR
Anthony Hirsch how about him telling us we were asleep
not to mention levitate
Jumpsuit?
Anthony Hirsch that sounds insane
I’M NOT CRYING MY EYES ARE SWEATING
He talking about Jenna...
It's just too cute.
"Is it okay that I talk about her" killed me 💓
@@sagemeridian8920 27:14
"She's the best thing that I've accomplished"
*cries in Jenna*
Absolutely loved this interview, and for many reasons:
A: It's Twenty-One Pilots related, duh
B: Tyler's smile gives me life
and
C: The interviewer actually asked intellectual questions and connected with Tyler, rather than asking stupid questions like "wHaT's a dEmA?" (/Blurryface)
local dreamer “who is dema?”
local dreamer and I like your name
This is the content we've been waiting for 😭
Saaame! Interviewers should do it more often
Zane is generally really good at interviews
Twentyonepilots: the definition of originality
Mickayla chainsmokers: the definition of unoriginality bc they always r copying the bois
I will never be able to explain to anyone why I love their music so much. It’s not because it’s “just good music”. It helps me get through the days where I’m trapped inside my own head. It helps me keep going when all I want to do is die. They help me understand that what I’m feeling is okay, even though nobody around me thinks so. I need them in my life and I’m so happy to have them be part of it.
Elise DITTO! Couldn’t have said it better!
He is the one who taught us all to turn our guns into a fist this comment embodies that lyric so well and im surr it resonates with all long time top fans
You took my thoughts and made them words. Beautifully and honestly said.
I feel exactly the same way.
I wan't friends like y'all
"We wouldnt be breathing without them"
But Tyler, I wouldnt be breathing without you
Tatum Balzarini that’s deep
BREATHTAKING
facts
Tyler staring at the ground while having a convo is 100% me
Same tho XD
He stared at the ground while i was reading this
Same
“Can I talk about her for a second?”
HES SO PURE I CANT-
tyler has such a calming presence. listening to this was real nice.
kieratea i fell asleep to this interview many nights-
31:22 I've never related to a moment more in my entire life
"im excited man"
tyler: "nope nope nope.!"
*life comes crashing down*
*stares at the failure I've created for a hot minute before tyler says*
"I told you"
Allegra lol
35 MINUTES OF TYLER JOSEPH YES PLS
2019 isn't that far away IKR ALSO HI LOVE YOUR VIDEOS
2019 isn't that far away I’m shook that you and Pillow Pilots are in the same comment section. Love your vids btw!
new yonkers
The fact that he said that we helped him without even knowing warmed my ice cold heart
Is anyone watching again post Trench release? It gives a whole new meaning to this interview.
watching in 2021 lol
@@aleahs5155 I’m rewatching for the first time since it came outt and I literally didn’t remember anything
watching after the outside mv release
crazy to think about
I need Tyler to be my life coach. This guy, man, he gets it.
Gabrielle C he already is with his music
br?
one half of my brain: wow what an emotional and compelling interview. it's so good to hear tyler after so long.
the other half of my brain: *dad hat dad hat dad hat*
Samantha Branham same hahaha
This isn't even wrong. I told myself 'he looks like a father now' when I saw the thumbnail.
HAAHAH
HONESTLY, MOOD.
WAIT SAMMEE AEKEKE
27:14 "can I talk about her for a seco-"
YES. YES U CAN.
@Addison Clark XD YOURE DOING GREAT SWEETIE
100%
@@DJDipstick XD
It's almost like they were sent here to save our world
Sent by God! That’s what all his music is about.
It’s because they were ||-//
They saved mine
Poppy as well
It wouldn't surprise me
5 years later, I am re-watching this video after TOP dropped their new single "overcompensate" is a full circle moment.
The fact that Heathens is about us makes it SO MUCH BETTER
Tyler Joseph is a genius.
Can we talk about how good the journalist is? Extremely well prepared, he knows a lot about the band, the albums, and their history, he asks clever questions and lets Tyler speak when he lets his mind wander. It's really beautiful.
I like they way you put that in perspective, that you can say that your are alive in the time of anything else in your life and how great that is.
When I first started listening to TOP, I didn't quite get why they were so great.
Then it cliqued.
Kids Wragg hilarious.
Oml same, I watched a couple of their music videos and then UA-cam started recommending a bunch of maee77’s videos, and dumb shof like that
WHYYYY MUST U SAAY SUCH THINGS😂
I missed his voice so much, it's crazy
Ssssssaaaaammmmmeeeee
Me tooooo
Same!
Kommst du aus Deutschland wegen deinem Username? 😂
@@sophiewnn9007 Ja komme ich hahaha
"She is the best thing i have accomplished" I CANNOT BELIEVE THIS PURITY
I was telling my dad about TØP's new music vids and about the story behind Blurryface, and his words were, "Wouldn't it be interesting if we found out that the fans began writing the story instead of the group? What if TØP started the idea, but as time went on, they secretly started getting ideas from fans and incorporating them into the storyline?"
Then I heard 9:52 and was shocked at what I heard.
not gonna lie, i’m going to be so sad when tyler stops creating. i think my heart will shatter. or maybe it’ll be like the end of a really good tv series with a satisfying ending. i hope so. also, tyler mentioned being good at compartmentalizing. i am not. but tøp’s music has helped me do so. maybe not completely. but i know they’ve stopped so many awful thoughts from intersecting so many times. they helped me create a room where i can freely feel without having to feel like it’s wrong to do so. i love you tyler and josh. & thanks for this interview. i’m glad we can all connect with tyler once again.
i don't think you have much to worry about. i think TOP might have a certain shelf life; i hope not, but they might. But it seems to me that Tyler is evolving musically, rather than peaking at the height of his popularity. He is inspired by the act of creation itself, not by the pursuit of success (at least not anymore), and this inspiration seems very pure and enduring to me. Even if TOP were to end, I don't see Tyler ever stopping this evolution or the process of creation, I just hope he continues to release his music publicly even if the project is under a different name, or under no name
Can we just take a moment to appreciate that Jenna took care of Tyler while he was writing?
Canadia Valentine well I mean she is his wife haha
Uhh? What do u expect a wife would do then 🤦♀️😂lol
Not all wives are on the same level. Jenna has transformed our smol bean. I love their love and the happiness I can see that she's brought to him.
It saddens me that this shocks people. All marriages should have this sort of relationship.
Welp Toxic relationships are a thing, so it's suprising to healthy ones.
A THIRTY FIVE MINUTE VIDEO OF TYLER JOSEPH TALKING?? GET ME OUTTA CLASS!!
bro im in class rn
I'm in lunch yes
Collin Michael I woke up late and I missed school
Collin Michael same
I listened to it during math and I got no work done
34:41 "I can't wait to have kids man. It's one more cycle"
Look where he's now
He’s so philosophical and calm... what an inspiration to us all
his voice is so calming
k sen i wish i could wake up to this voice just like Jenna
Marta Misztela Misztela I wish i could wake up to Jenna’s brownies
k sen I wish I could wake up to Jenna’s eyes
k sen I wish I would know them in person 😂
His voice really reminds me of Ray Toro
Tyler reminds me of myself when he talks because his brain is just on a different wavelength, so he talks slower, but you can tell its because he is thinking a lot more. People just always want me to 'spit it out', but I'm more of a listener, so words have a lot of meaning and I feel like tyler is the same.
yes, exactly how I feel too. Thanks for the amazing explanation
Yes, I completely understand!
This comment proved what you expressed because you couldn't have said it any better. 👌🏻
I don't know how you do it, because I would think of everything but I can't seem to express it the right way- like find the right words so I'm always silent. (Probably why I love TØP, Tyler teaches me how to express myself)
@@dianahoran6010 THIS. I relate to this heavily.
The question he asks Tyler at 12:44 really impacted me. As someone living with mental illness, you really do have to “develop tools in order to function”. Things impact us differently and we have to build a way to co-exist with these twisted versions of ourselves every single day. It’s much bigger than Blurryface... we face Dema and the Trench.
Love how after 31:00 it's not even an interview anymore. They are just both having a fun conversation and it shows how much Zane Lowe admires Tyler as a person and artist. Then on the flip side, it shows how much Tyler respects and trusts Zane Lowe as well.
He literally SPEAKS in lyrics, it’s so nice to hear his voice after so long. ||-//
I MISSED HIS VOICE SO MUCH
HI DAD
We got pillow pilots on the phone, quick get crankthatfrank
Hey grandpa!!
Yes queen
PILLOW PILOTS yes sister work
Tyler's last real words of the interview: "I can't wait to have kids." 💙💙💙
Jean Balogh and now he has one 🥺🥺
@@keegan6448 and now the 2nd is coming 🥺🥺
now he has 2 beautiful daughters :,)
I'm so happy that Tyler talks about Christianity and his faith. I'm Christian and idk man I like that one of my favourite artists shares the same religious perspectives as me.
Same man
same, we have to pray for him, he is facing doubts which can be a good thing, lets just pray for God to guide him through :D
Angel R i’m a satanist and i think any religion is fine as long as no one is harmed
Nice
Not to be rude, but when does he do this? I don’t think I noticed it
‘They helped create this world as well,’
Darn it, I’m crying.
Me too
@Germany Ball LOL😂
Same. Someone's seriously cutting onions.
They deserve everything they have and more.
Join the club. Oh wait, I mean clique. ;)
“I can’t wait to have kids.”
IM CRYING
Amaya Ross IKR before he said that I was about to comment when is Tyler gonna have kids? But I didn’t want to sound pushy or anything 😂
Amaya Ross They are going to be the cutest tiniest babies
I can't wait to see his kids too!!! ❤
Smøl
When does he say it? I watched the entire thing but I didn’t hear it
Ok but hello? Is anyone going to talk about TYLER DISCUSSING HIS FUTURE CHILDREN AT 34:40???? UMMMM JUST ANOTHER ALBUM AND JOSH IS A GODFATHER WAIT WHAT
oh well I WAS LOOKING FOR A COMMENT THAT MENTIONED THIS WHY IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT IT
Joy Legon they should
oh boy do i have news for you
Ro says hi
@@lochlancowles568 The way that I am in tears.
it's so wild hearing isolated and overcompensate here now
Now that we know heathens was for us and not for the movie just makes it so special to me. He wrote it for us and it ended up fitting the movie. Thank you, Tyler, for all the songs, and the shows, and everything.
Is it just me, or is Tyler one of the most grounded artists you've ever seen? He's an oasis in an artistic desert of ego and banality. I think that applies to Josh, too. I am so psyched for this album to drop.
John Canino yes yes yes.
Can we talk about that whole boat metaphor with jenna. it's amazing how much they love each other and i hope i have that with someone some day. also how is he so talented with words? it really blows me away
"We are Twenty One Pilots and so are you."
31:22 RIP Zane's phone
also Tyler's "nope nope nope" as it falls to its death
And the way tyler looks at him afterwards cracked me up so much he was just like "Man you done goofed."
I really like how considerate and patient the guy interviewing Tyler was he really let Tyler Finnish what he was saying without or interupting him 🙌🙌
His name is Zane Lowe and he's absolutely incredible
I love this interviewer, he's so sweet and wise !
TYLER: If for some reason you see this; thank you. You and Josh have been with me at my highest and lowest points. I'm sure I couldn't have made it through without your souls. It's comforting to see a face who understands the suffering that that exists inside me which goes far beyond my body and mind. TRENCH is like being lost in space but finding other lost souls to connect with and show me that I'm not alone out there. Humanity is often so shocking for me that I fully dissociate from reality but your music is always a beacon. I have major faith in a very confusing and ever changing adaptive way that most humans don't comprehend.
I love you both and you have high amount of purpose on this planet. Keep on, man.
Daniel
Our boy’s finally out of the bath
Cheyenne 😂😂
Cheyenne lol
"I'm not a hat guy"
wellll you're rocking it pretty well I must say
My thoughts EXACTLY
He kind of looks like Eminem a tiny little bit...
@@Morphior Now the beard
Why is he wearing something my dad would wear? 😂😂 my dads got great fashion sence if tyler wears the same things 😂😂😂 guys I'm sorry I was just saying that I like that he added color to his outfit and that my dad wears the same outfits
@@bmay2539 I like his outfit 😐😬
out of all of the interviews tyler has ever done, this is the first one i've seen where he really addresses his faith and spirituality without fully shying away from that. i'm happy for that, full respect
As someone who currently makes music underground, what Tyler said at 19:00 hit me so hard, because I could never imagine feeling good enough to actually perform or share with anyone, but the fact that’s he’s made as much of an impact as he has and that he still can’t help but feel that way is so reassuring.
That's what distinguishes the moneygrabber mainstream "artist" from a real artist. Having the depth of mind, the capability for reflection, the ability to confront your inner demons, calling them out and seeing them for what they are, the empathy to see yourself in relation to others and caring about what happens to them, the drive to break down a seemingly simple thing to its core and make others see better and finally the talent to tell these findings in an artistic way, creating a beautiful piece while making the world a better place. Put all of that into one person and you have Tyler Joseph. Thanks for existing man, it's been a blast and I can't wait for what's coming next.
So beautiful
Shout out to the interviewer for the amazing questions. This was done very well. I missed you Tyler.
The Legend Zane Lowe 🐐
If you like Paramore go and watch the interview about after laughter
I consider myself a bit religious but the way he talks about faith and God, I feel like I am nowhere near religion and I need to think more about it and dive into it
i love how he talks about Jenna. Like she is his everything. She is always with him. Like she is the biggest part of him. I love that.
I really needed to hear is voice through a new interview.
Now we know why he needed a year long bath woah so many ppl y'all should check out my covers on the uke😉 allot of twenty one pilots stuff
ikr
t h e b a f f
Misael Rodriguez it ain’t that deep sis
Misael Rodriguez So much for not shoving religion down people’s throats
Tyler has the BEST metaphors
Crazy, Tyler is only two years older than me, and he accomplished more in his life then I ever could have dreamed. He said he has so much more to experience, which is true, but crazy to think how much he has done at such a young age. Good on you Tyler, I'm a fan of tøp, not the typical ones you're probably used to seeing around here, I'm just a 27 year old person, amazed at what you have accomplished.
Angela DePompei I feel this comment. I’m 27 too and feel hugely connected to his thinking throughout his work. I’m in complete awe but also dismay - I will likely not achieve anything near what he/they have. I dunno, it’s a big topic but it’s so much of why I’m into their stuff.
You've accomplished things that perhaps Tyler never will, please don't compare yourselves, we are all part of a big complex picture and you are a important in a different and necessary way also
Tyler's voice is just so soft. He just always sounds so innocent and sweet and hurt. I love it so much and in his music you can hear it too. His singing voice is so high and angelic and beautiful. I can't believe anyone is capable of that.
Awesøme Sauce99 “hurt”?
@@miakatherine6756 yeah..?
Awesøme Sauce99 whats that mean?
@@miakatherine6756 Its means exactly what I said. It sounds like hes hurt. Not physically but emotionally.
Awesøme Sauce99 aww that’s sad. i love tyler i want him to sound strong and happy
"i cant wait to have kids" I'D LOVE TO SEE THEIR BEAUTIFUL CREATURES PLEASE HURRY
Minute?
@@sanchezarellanoomarisrael5457 34:40
seokjin ur name and pfp omg y3s
They're children would be the most beautiful humans on earth
I do too, I love them so much and they are supportive for each other
I seriously RESPECT those who are brave enough to be vulnerable, open and honest with others. It leads to the greatest feeling when you are working on yourself as a human. Though it may cause you hurt when dealing with that vulnerability, with every anxiety attack, there's a figuring out why that happened. It's a freeing feeling when you realise who you are; when you realise that pain has a purpose; when you realise that every path towards self-actualisation is a rough one.
I think too much, which I've always held as a disadvantage to my personality. But, I've come to think that being introspective does a lot more good
I'm proud, my mom told me she watched this interview and she really respects Tyler now
I didn't know that that was *HIS* studio, I thought it was just a studio. This makes my blood so much better
for a second there i was like why tf would your blood be better??¿
@@lissette7201 lol 😂
i would listen to another 10 hours of this
Thought it was just me ;)
Same
yes please
666
666 is ridiculous the devil lost his battle already so it means nothing like it always has
I've dealt with so much depression in my life, and I connect so much with this music. As someone who has dealt with the death of my father and brother when I was 12/14, molestation, self mutilation, sexual assault, alcoholism, substance abuse, self medication, suicidal thought a and actions, and self distruction just in general, the holes my life has left in my heart I've tried to fill with anything I could find. I'll always have issues within my heart and mind. But being sober for almost 10 months, having a relationship with God, and having my husband and children to live for has made such a difference in my quality of life. But through it all, music has always been my first love and my mistress. Music heals so much pain if you use it correctly. If you're going through any of these things, find your outlet that healthily fills those painful holes. Prayers, love, and positive vibes to all.
23:11 hearing him openly talk about this subject without being forced to is something i didn't know I needed
Tylers "nope nope nope" is so cute 31:22
"told ya"
THE INTERVIEWER WAS AMAZING LIKE??? He actually asked the right questions and was patient and let Tyler talk without interrupting him and I'm really thankful like.. WOW other interviewers should at least try to be like that too
Fr! I was so satisfied to see him genuinely being interested in the questions and the answers
He is friends with Tyler and Josh for years now lol.
This interviewer should know that he made the best, most quoted twenty one pilots interview of all time and that his respectfulness by letting Tyler actually finish what he’s talking about is legendary. 🙌🏼
Felicity Dargis so true ! I hope he will also do it next era or earlier🙏
15:15 overcompensate?
"wanna ask me about my first alcoholic drink?"
oh my goodness, i love this dork
-; ʙʟᴀᴄᴋ ʙᴜᴛ ʟɪɢʜᴛᴇʀ and I was like “please say yes, please yes”
me too
and somehow i knew it would be something like that lol
me too
and somehow i knew it would be something like that lol
me too
and somehow i knew it would be something like that lol
me too
and somehow i knew it would be something like that lol
Interviewer: What's your favorite color?
Tyjo: I like all the colors because *insert hour long philosophical speech*
my dad would've done the same lol
that's the best part about him!
Cynamia oh god now I’m reminded of the forest fic
Hahahaha so true that’s why we love him
Twenty One Chalupas lol i never read the forest fic only like two pages of it but she can call Tyler what she wants. If your joking tho disregard my comment :)
Tyler and Josh both have something that never can be replicated. I am so grateful to be alive during the era of music that they are known in. Tyler writes about things that no one else thinks of, but yet relates to. They both inspire me so much to write my own music and express myself instead of writing about mainstream topics.
27:07 ; the way Tyler describes how he feels about his wife is refreshingly cute
He can't wait to have kids... Imagine little Tylers running around😍😍
😭😭
or Jennas lol
@@nectar9509 Truee
I'm not crying!!!! You are!!!
Oof what a blessing that would be
HIS STUDIO IS ADORABLE LOOk AT ALL OF THE MARIO AND ZELDA FIGURES CRIIII I LOVE HIM SM
THERE IS A POKEBALL TOO, OMG
We fans have no clue the kinds of pressure that creators like Tyler and Josh go through. It has to be insane. It’s obvious that Tyler is human and has deep thoughts and anxieties just like us, but we can be anonymous in our thoughts and feelings, without anyone analyzing them. But Creators like Tyler are constantly being analyzed and criticized, but also honored and praised, which can also be pressure! I am really grateful for TOP’s music. It’s truly helped me in so many ways. I hope that Tyler and Josh feel our gratitude and love. No pressure! ;)
"...glorify getting old.." is wise beyond his years.
i actually didnt realise just how much i missed hearing and seeing this beautiful man during the hiatus.
I can just imagine Tyler's laugh as he tweeted out "oh i was taking a bath"
"These kids have something to say, and they're worth listening to." @ 7:14
I love that
tyler is so articulate and so interesting but also a good question avoider. i appreciate that tho, keeping lots of parts of himself private, i suppose that's how you stay grounded