"THE SECRET BAND" MURS RETEVIS RT27V

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  • @BrianWerner
    @BrianWerner 4 роки тому +3

    Tera TR-505 are certified for Murs. Programmable for GMRS or MURS. More expensive at $115 each, but have 4 watt out put for GMRS.

  • @dannyo6699
    @dannyo6699 4 роки тому +2

    Walmart does use the 4 and 5 channel MURS frequencies. I just got mine. I work at Walmart and am going to give mine a try for work. I have the in-ear speaker/mic to hook into it. It does use the same Kenwood connectors that Baofeng and Quansheng uses.
    I downloaded the Retevis radio control system, and you do have the ability under TX power to switch it to either HIGH or LOW power. I set mine on High for now to see how well it will work indoors. Incidentally, I used the Baofeng programming cable I had and it worked fine. I also have the Quansheng programming cable and it also worked fine.

    • @d-rocker26
      @d-rocker26 4 роки тому +1

      I just got a BTech for the same thing, i also work at Walmart. I love the BTech.

  • @ToddHa
    @ToddHa 5 років тому +4

    The RT27 (FRS) has 35 programmable channels. But like the RT27V, the RT27 software is LOCKED to only allow approved frequencies. The RT27 (FRS) also offers legal-Scramble mode option. Retevis got the RT27 Part 95 FCC Type-accepted in time before the December 2017 deadline, so SCRAMBLE mode on the RT27 FRS model is fully legal. It provides 8 scramble modes in the software. The RT27V did not get the feature. Radios typed accepted as Part 95 after December 27th, 2017 were rejected if they included a SCRAMBLE mode of any kind. So, SCRAMBLE mode now is an automatic REJECTION on any future Part 95 type accepted radios. Another type-accepted Retevis FRS radio with legal SCRAMBLE mode option is the Retevis 15. It was type-accepted by the FCC before the December 2017 deadline. The scramble mode only provides limited voice inversion protection. Some may want/need that. Others may not.

    • @design2survive
      @design2survive  5 років тому +2

      ToddHa the 27v has a lot of spurious emission problems..I’m in contact with retevis about it. Highly doubt they will fix it. Follow up vid coming soon.

    • @ToddHa
      @ToddHa 5 років тому +1

      @@design2survive I like the DCS Encryption in the Software. It allows you the option to LOCK OUT other radios using the same DCS code on the same channel from non-Retevis Manufacturers. A Retevis-only DCS pass-filter per-say.

    • @design2survive
      @design2survive  5 років тому +1

      ToddHa have you noticed any bleed over between frequencies? The MURS one bleeds all over the place..

    • @ToddHa
      @ToddHa 5 років тому

      @@design2survive Not here in STL. I have (2) 27Vs. No issues here. My 27Vs are programmed with ctcss-dcs on all of the (5) channels.

    • @ToddHa
      @ToddHa 5 років тому

      Along with your review. I also enjoyed Ham4all's review on the 27V & 27 (FRS).

  • @WolfQuantum
    @WolfQuantum 4 роки тому +4

    Some of the Chinese radios we see here are most likely used as business radios in China. So it's no surprise they seem a bit business like at times. They work well for that. Having Kenwood standard jacks for speaker mics, programming cables, etc. to me puts them well ahead of the bubble pack radios. I also find they have better performance than the bubble packs for lot less money.

  • @gsaldana22
    @gsaldana22 4 роки тому +2

    I have a solution for you on knowing if the radio is on: paint a line on the volume knob. I did that with a few ham handhelds that didn't have a factory-printed line on the volume knob to check the volume or powered status of the radio at a glance.

  • @dec1172
    @dec1172 4 роки тому

    I just got theses radios to use when working special security details or at events, can’t wait to use them.

  • @DougMcDave
    @DougMcDave 3 роки тому

    Has anyone else experienced screws falling out of the belt carrier? I lost one and would like to know what size screw I need to replace the one I lost. Thank you!

    • @chris.eskimo
      @chris.eskimo 3 роки тому +1

      For future reference, use blue Loctite on the screws

  • @josephvanni
    @josephvanni 5 років тому +2

    How much range do these get in miles?

    • @design2survive
      @design2survive  5 років тому +1

      Joseph Vanni I don’t know..it would vary. I think outside you might get 1/2 to 1 mile. They are pretty low power..

    • @do0fuss
      @do0fuss 4 роки тому

      If you need max range the BTECH MURS-V1 is rated 500mW/2W and has replaceable antenna vs. rated power for Retevis RT27V is 370mW/340mW (ERP) according to the fcc compliance certificate available from the Retevis website.

    • @williamsell6266
      @williamsell6266 4 роки тому

      @@design2survive I use Btech murs V1, outside I'm getting about two miles with an upgraded antenna

  • @ironcladpatriot5829
    @ironcladpatriot5829 5 років тому +2

    How's the audio quality?

    • @do0fuss
      @do0fuss 4 роки тому

      Audio sounds better than BTECH MURS V1 IMHO, better sensitivity as well.

  • @ernestbodvar5431
    @ernestbodvar5431 4 роки тому

    Can somebody please help me I just got a rt27 in it goes on perfectly but how do you program this radio it has more instructions on it than a CB radio and believe me I can't make heads or tails from this handy talking but I just got frustrated put the thing back in the box and trying to find out how I can program this radio so I can talk on it

    • @bulldogbrower6732
      @bulldogbrower6732 4 роки тому

      When purchased it should have the 5 VHF MURS frequencies. These channels are mainly for family communications, hunting, hiking, camping. There aren’t too many other people using these channels. They are good for 1-2 miles. I don’t know what instructions you need. Press the button and talk. If you are close to businesses you might pick up their transmissions. MURS was previously a business band. They are only compatible with other MURS radios.

    • @jfrphoto01
      @jfrphoto01 3 роки тому +1

      It is preprogrammed at the factory, you cannot change the programming in this radio.

    • @motodude23
      @motodude23 3 роки тому

      A serial port cable and chirp software

  • @stevederjones7340
    @stevederjones7340 3 роки тому

    A lot of people are going to GMRS in the Prepper world. MURS will is also have been mentioned . Most will be using MURS as property security communication. I have a couple BTech v1 MURS as back up to GMRS. My whole set up is based on GMRS because I figure that in SHTF that GMRS will be a little more open then HAM radios I think the HAM will be over loaded. GMRS will be useful because you will be able to communicate plus catch some very local radio traffic. Plus have a lot more range then MURS . Eventually my back up communication will have all the radio services. That way I’m able to communicate, listen to local emergency services and be able to find out what is going on abroad

    • @design2survive
      @design2survive  3 роки тому

      I think it’s good to have all of the above. Ham won’t be overloaded because there are literally hundreds of frequencies to choose from, and quite a few bands. I have a couple of radios with 6m on them, no one is ever on that..

  • @koniconga
    @koniconga 5 років тому

    Have acquired my call sign and GMRS license, now seeking and debating to either purchase a FRS/GMRS radio or MURS? Seeking advice as participative in Jeep roundabouts jamborees, camping and mountain biking escaped. Seeking suggestions since again assurance getting a suitable means of communication for me, family and friends.

    • @bulldogbrower6732
      @bulldogbrower6732 4 роки тому

      Either MURS or GMRS is the way to go for family communications. However you need full power units with removable antennas. Look for MURS radios with 2 watts, or GMRS at 5 watts. Try the BTech or Midlands.

    • @HardcoreFourSix
      @HardcoreFourSix 4 роки тому

      GMRS handheld (HT) a good choice is the Wouxun KG-805G from Buy Two Way Radios. Mobile- Midland Micromobile or Btech GMRS-50X1

    • @stephenszabo2361
      @stephenszabo2361 3 роки тому

      @@bulldogbrower6732 the FRS radios now have 2 watts....retevis has the rb17 FRS..that antenna is longer, will that make a difference say from the rb49p frs radio?

  • @Ham549
    @Ham549 4 роки тому +1

    I checked the FCC IDs on mine and the IDS were for GMRS radion not MURS so these may not be technically legal.

    • @design2survive
      @design2survive  4 роки тому

      Ham549 mine are for murs..they make another variant for FRS..some FRS channels are shared with GMRS and those are legal to use.

    • @Ham549
      @Ham549 4 роки тому +1

      @@design2survive mine is for murs too but the FCC id is for the GMRS model. You should check the FCC id on yours.

  • @charleswescott5185
    @charleswescott5185 5 років тому +2

    When you said "you can pick your frequencies" u mean like you can program frequencies into the Ratevis Rt27v?

    • @design2survive
      @design2survive  5 років тому +2

      Charles Wescott no..you can pick privacy tones or codes..

    • @mikesey1
      @mikesey1 4 роки тому

      @@design2survive You can programme other UHF frequencies into these, and there's a high/low power setting in the software. "High" is two watts. .

    • @design2survive
      @design2survive  4 роки тому +2

      @@mikesey1 these are vhf..

  • @PoweredByRedstonecom
    @PoweredByRedstonecom 4 роки тому +1

    design2survive, when you tested the power on these, did you change the TX power to high, using the software? I noticed the default config in the software is actually set to low power, which would be 0.5W, I believe.

    • @design2survive
      @design2survive  4 роки тому +2

      Powered By Redstone no..but I think you are right. Did you notice more output power when you did that?

    • @PoweredByRedstonecom
      @PoweredByRedstonecom 4 роки тому

      @@design2survive I don't have mine yet, nor a wattmeter handy, but even with one having a fixed antenna I wouldn't know how to connect it. When they show up I'll read the memory and let you know what the ACTUAL defaults are, but I suspect it will be the lower power setting.

    • @do0fuss
      @do0fuss 4 роки тому

      FCC compliance certificate for this device states ERP output for channels 1-3 is 0.37W and for channels 4-5 it is 0.34W.

    • @design2survive
      @design2survive  4 роки тому

      do0fuss yes..but we are wondering if that is low power mode..I haven’t gone into programming to find out.

    • @mikesey1
      @mikesey1 4 роки тому

      You're right. The software has a high & low setting: high is two watts. 0.5 is the legal power for Europe.

  • @gblan
    @gblan 3 роки тому

    So could you take one of these into a Walmart and use it to call for a cleanup on aisle 17?

    • @design2survive
      @design2survive  3 роки тому

      Yes, but you’d have to program the tone in with a computer ahead of time.

  • @solidhalon
    @solidhalon 5 років тому

    Do the radios have a usb connector for charging or is only via the charging stations?

  • @barnmonster888
    @barnmonster888 4 роки тому

    WHAT IS THE DISTANCE ON THESE--I NEED SOME FOR 30 MILES LIKE POLICE RADIOS

    • @design2survive
      @design2survive  4 роки тому

      1 mile. Ham radios are the only ones that would work..and you’d have to use repeaters to get that range

  • @haloboy456
    @haloboy456 Місяць тому

    Is this radio supported in CHIRP?

    • @design2survive
      @design2survive  Місяць тому

      I can't remember..gave them away. I think they were?

    • @haloboy456
      @haloboy456 Місяць тому

      @design2survive Thanks for the reply. From it looks like the research suggests it's actually not even though a bunch of their radios are go figure

    • @design2survive
      @design2survive  Місяць тому

      @ if it’s not on chirp..send an e-mail to Retevis..sometimes they have software available that works with the radios.

  • @0x07AF
    @0x07AF 5 років тому +3

    This is the best introduction video to MURS I've seen. Very good explanation and overview. Only one minor point you could have mentioned on your side-note about GMRS - one license covers your entire immediate family. I haven't read the fine print regarding how far that extends (e.g., grandparents, cousins, nephews, etc), but for sure it includes your brothers, sisters, husband's, wives, kids.... but for that $70 GMRS license you could get 3 of those Retivis RT27V MURS radios instead and not even need a license to use them. Pros and cons of course all come down to your technical needs, usage environment, and budget. 🙂

    • @design2survive
      @design2survive  5 років тому +2

      0x07AF great point! And thank you!

    • @WolfQuantum
      @WolfQuantum 5 років тому +1

      With the GMRS license you can also use up to 50 Watts on the higher channels 15-22. wiki.radioreference.com/index.php/FRS/GMRS_combined_channel_chart#2017_FRS.2FGMRS_Channels with the license you are also covered for using repeaters. Not every area will have GMRS repeaters, but there are more in the country than you might think. As 7AF said, the license covers your immediate family. It's pretty liberal. If you are having a family outing for event cousins, uncles/aunts are covered. However, you cousin who lives 3 states away can't operate under your license. I got my HAM license after I got my GMRS license. I'll keep the GMRS simply because it does cover the family. I can put a 50 Watt mobile in my wife's car, my van, and have one as a base and it's all covered under my GMRS tag. Currently I just have two of the BTECH GMRS-V1 HTs (5 Watt Max), but you can program a number of channels for receive only and scan or monitor those. I have everything from HAM to MURS loaded for scanning. I can also connect the V1 to an external antenna with a 25 Watt amp (runs around $87) and get some range. Use legally and properly GMRS can do more than just the bubble pack stuff is capable of.
      As for MURS, there are other applications other than just talking. Wireless motion detectors, driveway announcers, that kind of thing. I have my dual band HT programmed with the MURS channels just for receive so I can tuck a radio on my belt (shirt tail is out or CC anyway) and run the earbud up under the shirt and listen to the folks working at Walmart as I shop. Came in handy the other day as I was getting ticked the lady was taking so long to clean the restrooms up front and the back ones seemed so busy. Then I heard the conversations on the radio about the big leak upfront and how they were trying to keep the water from running out into the store. Not LEO/FD level action, but fun to listen too while shopping. I would see MURS with an emphasis on keeping the radio shorter range as a sort of intersquad radio when working close and not wanting your comms going to far. Between not as many people using them and not transmitting very far you have less chance of being listened to. Plus, you could set out the motion detectors around camp to alert you on the radio. Just have the earbud in. ;)
      There's a place for

    • @WolfQuantum
      @WolfQuantum 5 років тому +1

      As a Tech you can operate in 2 meter, 1,25 meter, 70 cm, specific frequency spread in each, and a very limited part of 10 meter band. Amateur license of any class does not cover GMRS. That still requires a separate license. Also to be technically legal you can’t operate your ham rig on GMRS because it isn’t part 95 accepted. That said, I don’t recall ever hearing of the FCC going around with a van ID’ing non part accepted radios on GMRS by their emissions. Lol. So hypothetically speaking... 🙈
      I need to stop playing with radios long enough to study for my General test in about two weeks. And of course I have a dual band mobile radio due to be delivered Friday I’ll want to play with and program. No temptation to play hooky there. ;) Just another rabbit hole to fall into.

    • @design2survive
      @design2survive  5 років тому +1

      Amos Iron Wolf these are type certified by the fcc to operate on the murs frequencies.
      I’m ham licensed as well, but most of my friends aren’t so we could use these.

    • @design2survive
      @design2survive  5 років тому +1

      CRYPTO-RADIO not legally.

  • @yankey4
    @yankey4 5 років тому +2

    Wow I need a set of tho's. Funny you get 4 or 8 for less than 110 bucks but 2 cost 55+

    • @design2survive
      @design2survive  5 років тому +1

      Yeah.. these come with the earpieces..the ones without are cheaper.

  • @jasonmcgee2866
    @jasonmcgee2866 4 роки тому

    Can these frequencies be used with a repeater?

    • @design2survive
      @design2survive  4 роки тому

      Jason McGee no...murs is not allowed for repeater use..

    • @jasonmcgee2866
      @jasonmcgee2866 4 роки тому

      @@design2survive I have to get around 100 radios for my company. For flagging and temporary traffic control.
      I am thinking about MURS.

    • @design2survive
      @design2survive  4 роки тому +1

      Jason McGee I really like it..if you live next to a Walmart..they use them. But most places have literally no one using that freq range. Plus vhf goes pretty far outdoors.
      I’m a big fan of murs.

    • @jasonmcgee2866
      @jasonmcgee2866 4 роки тому

      @@design2survive I notice on Amazon that the Retivis RT 27 has the FRS and the 5 channels MURS? So the RT27 covers both systems? FRS and MURS?

    • @design2survive
      @design2survive  4 роки тому +1

      Jason McGee no the rt27 is frs..the rt27v is the murs one.

  • @jdel932
    @jdel932 5 років тому

    I purchased one to work with Dakota Alert. I can hear but can't send. I don't have software to change anything. So I'm sending mine back

    • @design2survive
      @design2survive  5 років тому

      Juan DelaCruz so..your Dakota Alert has a tone. You have to turn it off and it will work. I’ve tried it. They work fine. If you want use the privacy tones..you will need the software.

  • @brockcarter4822
    @brockcarter4822 4 роки тому

    I purchased a group of 10 each. Some work great the rest have terrible bleed over from the other channels. I believe it has to do with the CTCSS setting. Now I must purchase the programming cable to fix those settings.

    • @design2survive
      @design2survive  4 роки тому

      Brock Carter really? Mine do have a lot of bleed over. I tried explaining this to Retevis and they didn’t understand what I was talking about . Still like them though.

  • @fire4298
    @fire4298 4 роки тому

    Is murs a better choice?

    • @Satchel456
      @Satchel456 4 роки тому

      MURS is good if you want a set of frequencies that aren't as commonly used. As he mentioned in the video, UHF is better for places with a lot of obstructions (think urban, or heavy suburban). VHF is better for range of communication, but is more easily obstructed by things like houses, cars, etc. You really have to evaluate it based on your personal needs.

  • @rynoryzer
    @rynoryzer 4 роки тому +1

    You could just use a PL tone/CTCSS on the FRS/GMRS not to get all the other people cross talk. And A 5 watt GMRS will go much farther.

    • @design2survive
      @design2survive  4 роки тому +1

      rynoryzer in my testing, these go farther when outdoors. VHF is superior when outdoors..uhf works better through walls and buildings but doesn’t go as far.

    • @rynoryzer
      @rynoryzer 4 роки тому

      @@design2survive That is interesting. Even thought the GMRS is 5 watt than these at 2 watt. I have read that all things being equal VHF will go about 2x as far as UHF with out obstructions.

    • @design2survive
      @design2survive  4 роки тому

      rynoryzer yeah..the thing you have to realize is that blister pack gmrs radios are no where near 5 watts at the antenna...maybe on the board.. the main thing for any of this is how good your antenna is. My yaesu at 1watt will beat all these radios..

    • @rynoryzer
      @rynoryzer 4 роки тому

      @@design2survive Ya, I was comparing it to the 5 watt ones that are available such as the Midland GXT 1000, they will do repeaters and run on AA batteries eliminating the need for charger. Which is a good feature for emergency no power situations.
      But you are correct, compared to your typical FRS/GMRS that is 0.5 watt or maybe some of the newer 2 watt, the MURS would likely perform better.

  • @Ham549
    @Ham549 4 роки тому +1

    I thought you could use gmrs without a license. You just had limited power and not allowed use repeaters.

    • @design2survive
      @design2survive  4 роки тому

      Ham549 nope

    • @bulldogbrower6732
      @bulldogbrower6732 4 роки тому +1

      These aren’t UHF 5 watt GMRS radios, these are VHF MURS radios, 2 watts max, no license required.

    • @jfrphoto01
      @jfrphoto01 3 роки тому

      @@design2survive Ham549 is correct, there are shared FRS/GMRS frequencies with limited power (2 watts I believe) and no repeaters may be used.

  • @solidhalon
    @solidhalon 5 років тому +3

    "Outstanding Citizen"

  • @neosmith80
    @neosmith80 3 роки тому +1

    what pisses me off is the combo of frs/gmrs bands. they need to split them 11/11 so that gmrs isn't hearing a bunch of stupid kid crap and gmrs can use the higher power with no issues! if we have to get a license for gmrs, we should have our own clear channels, not pig backing off of others!

    • @design2survive
      @design2survive  3 роки тому

      I agree. But in the meantime..hardly anyone uses murs (unless you live near a walmart)

  • @johndurso4212
    @johndurso4212 4 роки тому

    Hi,besides the $70 you pay to use that Midland radio,do you need a Ham radio License to operate that radio, great video Thanks.

    • @design2survive
      @design2survive  4 роки тому +1

      No

    • @johndurso4212
      @johndurso4212 4 роки тому

      @@design2survive coool,I’m getting that radio very soon,I thought you needed a ham license because it’s GMRS,thanks a lot,John😎😎😎😎

  • @p18449
    @p18449 4 роки тому

    I have 2 radios now I buy 2 more radios how can have the 4 radios in the same channel

    • @whatabouttheearth
      @whatabouttheearth 3 роки тому

      Find out what type of radios you have.
      Gmrs/frs specific (COMMON) radios will communicate with eachother
      Murs specific will communicate with each other
      If is ham or covers more its more complicated. The ones people generally buy at the store will more than likely be GMRS/FRS. Make sure they are for the same spectrum and set them on the same channel

  • @bulldogbrower6732
    @bulldogbrower6732 5 років тому +1

    Only a half watt, and the antenna is not removable. Retevis needs a model upgrade for the US market.

    • @treerat7631
      @treerat7631 3 роки тому

      They do now the waterproof version

  • @CSA-Speer
    @CSA-Speer 4 роки тому +1

    6:07 nobody knows about them 🤔😂 what about Walmart they use murs

    • @design2survive
      @design2survive  4 роки тому +1

      Ryan ϟϟ right..$250 Motorola’s..which are good, but these are $25 a piece.
      I’ve heard law enforcement and some businesses use them in some towns. But it’s still not widely used by the general public.

    • @bulldogbrower6732
      @bulldogbrower6732 4 роки тому +1

      I doubt law enforcement would be using a half watt radio. Most are digital P25 now. Professional trunking system.

    • @design2survive
      @design2survive  4 роки тому

      Bulldog Brower Murs is limited to 2watts..so they use them for local comms....and maybe they aren’t limiting themselves to 2 watts.

    • @design2survive
      @design2survive  4 роки тому +1

      Bulldog Brower many places around the country where they aren’t trunked.

    • @bulldogbrower6732
      @bulldogbrower6732 4 роки тому +1

      They might not be trunked but they surely are using assigned licensed frequencies with 5 watt professional series radios. No law enforcement department operates on family channels at a half watt.

  • @andrewyoung-n8ary
    @andrewyoung-n8ary 4 роки тому

    The color you are looking for is green. Not purple.

  • @djsoundzentertainment42
    @djsoundzentertainment42 5 років тому

    Blue and Green Dot, not Purple.

  • @michaelloughlin734
    @michaelloughlin734 4 роки тому +1

    Keep one of the orange buttons pressed and it sets of alarm tones.

  • @glengranger3896
    @glengranger3896 4 роки тому +1

    Guess he's just wondering all over the place maybe he should stick to the scrip

  • @williamlowry9585
    @williamlowry9585 4 роки тому +1

    You are down on GMRS and there is nothing wrong with GMRS and apparently, you have no clue how useful GMRS is and what you can do with it. I would take the 50-watt radios and repeaters any day over MURS. UHF with a repeater has a substantial range.

    • @design2survive
      @design2survive  4 роки тому

      William Lowry there is one gmrs repeater in this area. No one uses it.

    • @gblan
      @gblan 3 роки тому

      MURS has only one advantage over GMRS and that is no license needed. GMRS has more channels and more importantly more power. Those would be it's biggest advantages. The traffic on GMRS is so low as to make that a non-issue between the two. Repeaters, while a potential advantage, are so sparse it's ridiculous.

  • @kaekae_gang8115
    @kaekae_gang8115 5 років тому +2

    Can you give me one

  • @Adamdaj
    @Adamdaj 3 роки тому

    The majority of those FRS/GMRS blister pack radios aren't repeater capable, so it's no wonder why the adverage consumer ignors FCC license requirement. I perfer using Motorola or Vertex, even Kenwood and Icom is better investment then Retevis.

    • @design2survive
      @design2survive  3 роки тому

      The fcc is a little behind the curve.

    • @Adamdaj
      @Adamdaj 3 роки тому

      @@design2survive One thing I'll never understand why the FCC didn't add 151.625 aka Red Dot After all you a lot of activity on that frequency and it's popular with unlicense users .

  • @miketabb8318
    @miketabb8318 4 роки тому

    M.u.r.s military use regulated service . what dose that tell you.

    • @design2survive
      @design2survive  4 роки тому +1

      mike tabb multi use radio service. Military gear is usually 50mhz

    • @whatabouttheearth
      @whatabouttheearth 3 роки тому +2

      Multi Use Radio Service
      Military are way more complex. MURS are Wal-Mart employee radios 😄 not some PRC 119, Harris or Motorola Sabers

  • @ernestbodvar5431
    @ernestbodvar5431 4 роки тому +1

    Well I might be a great radio for somebody but I'm getting rid of this hunk of junk I'm not going to hold on to it worse radio I ever bought believe me