KATZ'S DELI New York City OVERPRICED & OVERRATED!
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Katz's Deli famous for their corned beef and pastrami sandwich and also where the famous scene from When Harry Met Sally was filmed. Katz's Delicatessen is famous worldwide. So we went to review Katz Delicatessen and their famous pastrami sandwich and our thoughts were it was overpriced and overrated. If you are a tourist in New York City, then beware. However, the sandwich tasted...
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Katz,s was just a good reasonably priced deli until "when Harry met Sally"..then it became a tourist destination. Edit: Rents in New York are so out of control that ‘When Harry Met Sally’ probably saved Katz’s from becoming a Citibank. Guess you take the good with the not so good.
You mean tourist trap don’t you?
That was a lousy movie! 👎
Katz's was famous long before "When Harry Met Sally".
Pastrami is always overly-expensive. Delis have somehow managed to create a mystique about the brining, the smoking, the steaming, and even, absurdly enough, the slicing!
If you ever get to Montreal, try Schwartz's Deli's Montreal Smoked Meat. It's almost as expensive, but has a more distinct flavour and is more succulent. Make sure you get "medium-fat", or "fat" though...all deli meat is inedible if you ask for "lean".
P.S.: The bagels are better in Montreal too...St. Urbain.
In I'm going to try to be very delicate with my wording. Because I don't want to be accused of something I am not but you will find that the Mystique about the pastrami is only ever in big cities with a decent demographic of God's chosen people
By the way I hope you appreciate the irony of saying how ridiculous it is to mystify Pastrami and corned beef and then you go on to say where people should go to get these things.
Schwartz's is nowhere near the prices at Katz's. Their sandwich is slightly smaller than Kat'z and does not come with that little piece of pickle (which is worth very little). The price of a Schwartz smoked meat sandwich is around $15 - $16 CAD (including taxes). Katz's is at least $25 USD plus tax so that comes to about $35 CAD ! So about 1/2 the price (taking the smaller size and little pickle into consideration.
Taste-wise, Schwartz's is very good - but they run hot and cold. Sometimes the meat would be overly dry. IMHO, in Montreal, Schwartz's
is not the best place for smoked meat (mainly due to their inconsistency), there are several other joints offering great stuff (e.g. The Main Deli, Smoked Meat Pete).
You're right on! I've been to Schwartzs many times. I always look for a different restaurant to see if it matches Schwartz. My cousin from Montreal keeps me updated! Overall, Schwatzs still is most consistent. There's a newish place b on the West Island that's getting some great reviews, don't remember the name! When it comes to bagels St. Urbain Bagels ships to the USA via Goldbelly. However, I've found several outstanding bagel shops in Outremont!
What's the TIP for. This is a self order self serve place. You literally have to stand in line outside then wait inside and go to different counters with tickets, etc.
I know that tips are a huge part of the American way of life. In the UK it bolsters someones income and is by no means compulsory. I have learned to beleive its not quite the same in the USA. In fact, hasnt the definition changed in the USA for a tip and now has become compulsory and therefore it is no longer a tip? Is it a way the owners are able to avoid paying higher wages to staff? How does tipping work in the US ?
@@hullster9970 well I'm in Canada and it has become compulsory. Tables over 4 has mandatory 18 to 20% added on to your bill. Service has gotten worse over time and servers don't seem to care one bit since they'll be getting a tip regardless. Ask them to pack your food and they rudely hand you a box to fill it yourself. I have never been thanked or ever had anyone acknowledge the tip i gave them. Once i tipped 27% and not even a thanks. Getting ridiculous now
Always understood no need to tip in delis or take out joints. That seems to have changed. America is ludicrous
Put in to comparison, we over in Tenerife now, Aberdeen steak House by the craicmasters shop, we had two pints lager, toasted bread with dips, chips, and two mixed grills, the price, 20.20 euros for all of it, terrific value, the sandwich at Katz looked lovely, pricey, but as you say, hey its the big apple. 8/10
I went there 5 months ago for the first time and honestly, a bit of a letdown. Not so much because of the money, but the corned beef sandwich just wasn't that great, almost surprisingly so, considering all the hype. It's actually very thick and chunky, not thin sliced at all really and all sandwiches like this( French dip sandwiches, corned beef, pastrami) should really be thin sliced, those taste the best and are the most flavorful. It was still a bit expensive. And contrary to what people are saying, they do accept both cards and money, they have a separate place in the back for taking cards and up front by the entrance they take cash. Most important thing, don't lose the ticket they give you when you walk in for any reason, you give it back to them when you pay and leave, $50 charge if you lose the ticket for any reason, so hold on to it no matter what. Also lastly, if you really want to get the "real" NY sandwich,go to Sarges Deli,bar none,the best,miles above Katz's.
No it isn’t
It may be a tourist trap, but damn, that pastrami is great! And the price doesn’t seem to bother anyone as the lines are longer than ever. Three cheers for Katz’s!
Hey pal the price bothers me
I went there last week and it was expensive as you say but I felt that it was it’s own experience really. All food in NYC is damn expensive and this was something different. I would definitely still recommend it to anyone going to NYC though - the sandwich itself is the best I have ever had and yet so simple. And they did accept card payments when I went so that’s something they’ve obviously improved since you guys went.
I love the way it goes from you saying "Wow that is amazing" to him going in the most unenthusiastic way "Pretty good" 🤣
Still but a teenager in 1965 I moved to New York into a 4-floor walk-up just a little further east of Katz’s. One day I stepped into the deli, my first visit, and ordered a roast beef on rye. The big ruddy-faced man behind the counter wearing a butchers’ apron and a little round cap balanced upon his giant head sliced the beef and assembled a most beautiful sandwich. I eyed his masterpiece and asked, “Got any catsup?”. His already ruddy complexion turned bright red barely holding back his anger, “We AIN’T GOT NO CATSUP!” That was the day I learned that you never should defile a most perfect roast beef sandwich with catsup.
You don't defile any GOOD beef with ketchup
@@phatplates Almost 60 years later…I GOT IT!
I've lived in NYC my while life. I have never had the urge to go there. Us New Yorkers know the real sandwich shops
Which ones do you recommend?
Sarges?
Thanks Carly. Any others too
@@georgehaddad1159 Utopia Bagels
@@1Carly thank you. Keep the recommendations coming. I'm visiting from London for the first time. I'll be there in the next 2 weeks x
Just 10 years ago, a sandwich there was about 16 dollars. Even that was too much for one. Katz's is good and all (especially their reubens and hot dogs) but honestly just go to a corner bodega for a chopped cheese for less than 10 dollars.
Amen, Brother!
Looks amazing to be fair but you’re right… way toooo expensive for a sandwich!
Look at the line outside the place, Katz is a great place. Who the heck is comparing this to Bens deli? Are you insane? No comparison. But you are going to pay for it. Katz is a nice treat when visiting the City. I’m not sure who wants to visit NYC anymore. But Katz’s is a historical hot spot.
I have been going to Katz since i was a kid with my parents and I'm in my 70's and yes it was popular then way before when Harry met Sally
And yes it was always pricey but the.
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sandwiches then were thicker. Conceivably you could make 2 sandwiches from one
Katz's isn't cash only or at least the last time I was there (2019). You go to the left past the cutters and can pay with a card unless something has changed.
I love that place.....I spent $85.00 for 3 people...it was the best....fries, half sour pickle. The soup...so good...and the sandwich pastrami...lots of mustard....the best
I've been eating at KATZ for 60 years. It's the best Deli in Manhattan. I love their food!
I was in a MaccyD's in manchester many years ago and some guys ordered a root beer in a coke cup, of course one lad copped for it and his face was a picture, he went back to the counter and asked if one of the staff had cut themself and put germaline on it as his coke tasted of Germaline.... apparently, a popular prank ! MaccyD's took it off the menu some time later.. I love the stuff.
There are so many great places to get Pastrami or Corned Beef for less and get more! It’s basically a tourist trap. I’ve eaten at Katz’s a few times the sandwiches are very good, just over priced, but that’s NYC!
Don’t worry with all the printing of money our government is doing devaluing the dollar those sandwiches will cost $150 in a couple of years.
What’s your favorite in NYC? I’m headed there and looking for Katz-alternatives!
Another great review, production and presentation. You're absolutely spot on. I live in Manhattan and go to Katz's twice a year. Still the best pastrami sandwich in NYC. Yes, the prices are high, but so are delis like Pastrami Queen, 2nd Avenue Deli, Ben's, and Mendy's. Sarge's is the most reasonable but still high. That said, pastrami is expensive to produce.
I can't even fathom how much Katz's pastrami sandwich would cost if the family didn't own the property?
I knew the original owner of 2nd Ave. Deli who was murdered on his way to the bank >25 years ago. He made THE best pastrami.
@@richardgelber2740 Abe Lebewohl. Every day at the same time, he would jump into the 2nd Avenue Deli van and drive to the Fleet Bank on Second Avenue & 4th Street to deposit the previous day's receipts. Fleet Bank had always offered to send an armed guard to the restaurant to pickup the receipts, but Abe always refused. His murderer was waiting inside the van to rob Lebewohl. He was never caught.
@@hoppysport2872 The van, of course, was marked, as long as you had a little imagination and could read English painted with a font that looked like Hebrew.
I knew Abe from sometime between 1954 and 1957 (I was VERY young). My late father was an insurance broker and sold Abe the policy for the original part of the original location on Second Ave.
There was only ever one clue in the murder: The same gun was used in a murder in Yonkers. By now the perp is probably either dead or in prison for something else.
My family used to eat there every Sunday, on the way back from visiting my grandmother in Bensonhurst. I feel guilty for not getting to the 33rd St. location more often.
Abe was such a wonderful man. They called him "The Mayor of Second Ave."
I always preferred Sarge’s Deli on Third Avenue. Much better food
Absolutely - have been to both; both excellent, but Sarge's is the one I return to. Lovely vibe, good service and peerless deli food.
Sarges’s is wicked good!
My wife and I went there back in 2015. While I can't remember the price of it, I do recall that we couldn't even finish one of those beasts between the two of us. Super yum!
Hi Lee, when you go to Las Vegas and you stay in the Bellagio Hotel, you should try the buffet breakfast. Also check out the Bellagio fountains outside. 😁👍
£30 quid for a Sandwich , and I thought the garages was ripping me off . Nooo
I ❤️New York and I remember years ago when it wasn’t so expensive now it’s ridiculous prices. I was there in 2016 and found it expensive, best cheap food was the 99c pizza slices and they were great 👍
I'm a New Yorker. It's a great pastrami sandwich but it's very expensive.
But if I'm in the neighborhood, I'd might buy it again for like $40 I think.
Maybe not, it's $40
8.8 is a decent score, the sandwhich looked amazing. So expensive though, that would put me off ever trying it.
Any pastrami sandwich not at your local grocery store is gonna be overpriced, just the way it is
Worth every penny
Overpriced? Yes, but best pastrami sandwich I've ever had. Went there many, many times over almost 30 years.
No pecan pie? A week eating out in NYC probably cost two of us about a grand...and we didn't even try any pastrami! Glad we didn't.
You ate like a tourist, not like an average New Yorker. You have to be willing to move away from the tourist herd.
@@uvic4027 Completely true, though we did try small restaurants like Italian, but it wasn't really what we liked and we don't touch fast food. It is still expensive in comparison to UK prices.
They do cash only because a 3% charge will be added to transactions , they have running costs, wages etc, they do cash to keep the price down. They pay fortunes in taxes , use cash whenever you can mac for small day to day stuff, you also need an alternative way of paying for food etc when the systems are down.
Cash only to keep the prices DOWN you say hahahaha
Could fly to Tenerife and get a Tesco meal deal with change for that price!
Crazy price for what you get tbh but it seems popular.
Two things that kind of put me off is how crowded and noisy it looks and you really could get at least another sandwich out of that amount of meat they give you, that's just too much for one sandwich.
Comparatively, I ate at a salt beef sandwich Beigel Bakery on Brick Ln this past Aug and can honestly say it didn’t compare to Katz’s corned beef. Don’t get me wrong, I liked it and it was a bargain but it fell short of a Harold’s or Katz’s sandwich and not having seating and a line outside didn’t make it an experience one gets at Katz’s either. Again, I really liked Brick Lane and my culinary experience in London (cannot get over a private dinner party at F&M, then a private tour of the closed store) and hope to return to London again soon!
Anything in tourist manhattan is overpriced
What 45 bucks I would rather starve
The owner of that place would be making so much money. He should send Meg Ryan residual checks because without that scene in that movie this place isn't nearly as popular and always full.
I agree. Last time I was there I vowed to never return. Way overpriced, nasty people waiting on you. No thanks
I used to live a few blocks away and the only thing that stopped me going there more often was the queues - and its anything but all tourists. One issue is that rising rents in the Nolita/Soho area to the west are creating issues for places like this. Its not as if they make their money off booze sales. So that Sandwich, with a lot of meat is expensive. If its packed, or if you just want to sample Jewish treats, there are quite a few other places nearby, for example Russ and Daughters.
Best in Manhattan Russ and daughters
Price includes resort fee.
Blimmy that's is a pricy butty, no gold leaf and you didn't even get anyone at your table throwing salt on it. Best work an extra shift if i go there :-)
I like Katz's...it is what it is. A deli. From a history look, kinda like Geno's or Pat's in Philly (who invented the Philly cheesesteak), but Katz's food is delicious.
When you going to do another live lee? That last one was so funny 🤣
It was very famous way before Harry Met Sally and that's such a third level association with the place. It is what it is. Cash? So what?? Its a once a year visit knowing ahead of time its expensive. Bring cash (but I believe they take credit cards and you are not correct about that.) Forget When Harry Met Sally. Nobody cares about that when they think Katz's in NYC. Its the history, a place to visit once a year, very NYC ....just a historic place despite the overpriced sandwiches. Everything in the restaurant world...post pandemic...is EXPENSIVE!
New York has always been expensive for everything, but the price of eating out in America in general seems to have gone through the roof lately. You can't get any kind of main in a bar/pub for less than $20-25 it seems, even in the lesser known cities.
I couldn’t eat a sandwich with that much meat
A great Pastrami sandwich is one of the few things worth paying a high price for! 😛👍🏼
2nd Ave Deli on 33rd is about 23 bucks for their pastrami so it's right up there. Epstein's up in Westchester is about 15 bucks, so if you want pastrami or corned beef your going to pay. But even Mickey D's is over 10 bucks for a large meal so I'd rather spend the money on a huge pastrami sandwich that might do for 2 meals.
There's a lot of meat on that sandwich, I don't think it's overpriced. If there was less meat I would say it were overpriced.
Former New Yorker here and that's exactly what I was going to say and Katz deli was famous long before Harry Met Sally. Cash may be an inconvenience, but better than having the overlords in charge with a cashless society. lol
Most deli food is overpriced! Unfortunately the deli is a dying breed as many have permanently closed across the USA
Katz does accept credit cards you just have to take your ticket to the catering stand. South of the fries and beverages.
Went there 4 years ago. 4 people. We all had a sandwich and soda. Almost $200 with tax and tip!! It's a neat place to say you have been, but very, very exspensive for meat, smear of mustard and 2 slices of rye.
Go to a steakhouse in NYC and double or quadruple that.
@@jessewolf6806 Understandable for a good steak.
Truly, $35 for a sandwich & a can of soda! There are loads of places in NYC with very good pastrami sandwichs cheaper & better!
Where?
Jesse: I have visited many times The Mile End Deli where the smoked meat sandwich is $21. Dave's Brisket House has a 1/2 pound delicious pastrami or brisket sandwich for $15. Booth are in Brooklyn. Just my opinion!
I am a lifelong NYer. Many great Jewish delis have disappeared. As a result, Katz is one of the last games in town. The pastrami is tasty, but they hack it, as opposed to slice it. As a result, the sandwiches collapse and fall apart. A great sandwich should be constructed better.
Right. Go ahead and teach a life-long deli business how to cut meat.
OY VEY!!!! You have displeased Moshiach! Hand rubbing intensifies*
I was there this weekend, they take credit cards. But yes they are expensive.
Idk man Katz was delicious as ever. It’s an icon so the food would be a bit expensive but, honestly and truthfully. It’s worth every cent. Love Kat’z. I ❤️ NYC
Omg I just had dinner and that’s still got my mouth watering 🤤🤤🤤 I didn’t realise it was hot till I saw the steam coming off it, delicious 10/10 and good to see you having the local food Macca 😏 keep it up kidda 👍🏻
Who walks around NYC without cash? Almost every other business is cash only in Manhattan.
Look at it this way it feeds two of you. you both were full after it and you both enjoyed it. So $45.00 isn't too bad looking at it that way
Native here telling you this place is overpriced and overated. Numerous places to get this type around town, that are far superior, and priced accordingly. The Blarney Stone near Grand Central (R.I.P. ) had a far cheaper and superior Corned Beef or Pastrami sandwich.
Will you please list your recommendations? I’m planning a trip in May 2023.
No there are not.
@@jessewolf6806 that’s nice………
The last time I ate there the food was very disappointing and way too expensive. Not worth the money.
Definitely overpriced, but not over rated. As an NYC native, I can tell you that Katz is where it’s at when it comes to good deli.
I like my salami infact love my salami, but gee not that much on one sandwich, give me a bloody heart attack. Lol. No sorry the price would give me a heart attack. 🙈🙈🙈🙈
Good vlog thou mate. Keep them coming
It's NOTHING close to salami. it takes 4 months to make 1 whole pastrami.
Glad you try this iconic deli. Wanted to ask you to go for it. But its pricey.😃
Overly expensive yes, but you gotta do it once in your life.
When you offer a product that produces the same result each time a customer visits, its not as important how much you charge as it is keeping the consistency!
Does anyone have any good alts for a reasonably priced pastrami sandwich in NYC?
sarges deli
would've expected a genz to complain about cash not from a middle-aged man.. but then again, we're all moving on with the times so fair play to him.
They don't want to pay credit card fees.
Pastrami looked beautiful , but … a great pastrami sandwich should have more than just meat in it. You’re paying for one movie scene! Greatest in New York - no! There are smaller delis serving better. As they say “Never let the truth get in the way of a good boast”. (The motto of America)
Finally someone said it, I’m from NY and I even I agree that Katz is overrated and expensive. If you go to NY you gotta try out the smaller delis
Forgive me if this is stupid question.... was that total price, per sandwich or for both meals together......
1 Sandwich
We shared a sandwich
@@TheMacMaster wow.... thanks for the speedy response
Looked a proper door step, but it begs the question Mac, you said you’ve had a better sarnie.. Where!
I just can’t justify the price..
Had a better sarnie in Bens Look up a vlog I filmed called Beating Bens Pastrami :0)
Hello, MacMaster That looks yummy for $45😒😢🤣 But Just Look at the Amount of Meat in your Sandwiches 😋👍
Every time I go to new York , people always says the food is great , I always look forward to come back to the uk 🇬🇧 for some great food at great prices 👍✈️🇬🇧🙏
There is no great food in uk its shite 😑
I would imagine not too many locals eat there at those prices, guessing the vast majority would be tourists there for a one off experience.
4 x too much meat on that sarnie. Give me a quarter of the meat and charge me 10 dollars.
never been there but I tried Canters Deli in LA much the same thing I guess, I loved every bite and are happy that places like this exist, and by the looks of it you did split the sandwich so around 20 bucks ain't so bad I will say for what you get :)
they say cash only but they continue to show in some of the videos the tip money over flowing out of the cups on the counter IRS looks the other way
I always preferred The Second Avenue Deli.
Abe was a prince.
I live in the neighborhood most of my life. Katz is the last place I go. Way too expensive and overrated. I do give it to them that they give a lot pastrami but I'm not a fan of their pastrami and I hate rye bread. I'm not much of a sandwich guy anyway but I love pastrami.
I went to New York over a decade ago with a former girlfriend and of course we had to go to Katz's Deli and although I don't quite agree it's overrated I most certainly do agree it's overpriced...and as for the pastrami sandwich...it's an absolute masterpiece of the sandwich world(Mind you so is their Ruben Sandwhich)
I rated this legendary sandwich 9 out of 10.
Yup!! On my top 2 favorites!
It's like Shwartz's in Montreal; everyone thinks it's the best, yet Lester’s Deli and Smoke Meat Pete are far superior.
Just tried Shwartz's. Expensive and just OK food.
@@andresan-vg7gc if you have a chance, try Lester's. Definitely my favorite!
I remember going to mc donalds with my gran back in the early 80s,and asking for a root beer,and her answer was you far to young to be drinking beer.bless her,why did mc Donald's stop doing root beer in the uk,it was such a delicious soft drink.
With a tip that’s £33…quid . Salt beef sandwich in Edgeware London about seven or eight quit and I guarantee it’s as good as that
Great place Lee. I was in there about 35 years ago. Brilliant atmosphere. Great vlog. Ps. I need an iPhone 13 pro the picture quality is fab. 🚗🚗💨💨👍👍👍👍👍
That's not even expensive. $40 for 2 people. In New York City. For all that high quality meat. I would definitely pay that
It was one sandwich. We shared.
But I'm all by myself.
Maybe I can share with a homeless person.
Or just stick to my local Deli.
Just had a corned beef sandwich out here in Calabasas California it was excellent sliced in no fat and favorable price I can understand people who like their corned beef thick when I'm having corned beef and cabbage on a plate I prefer it thick as I say to each his own
oi, welcome to the states boys. Katz's is a New York legend, you are paying for both the high quality food and the reputation, the history really. it aint cheap but nothing is in the City
has anyone ever walked in and asked " how much does the Challah cost? "
It's annoying to want a digital future
Root beer does taste like the smell of germaline I have said that for years you are the first other person I know to say it! Brilliant ! X
I love root beer … when we went to New York I drank root beer every day 😋😋
That’s how it is in NYC it’s expensive everywhere there! And yes it would be around not because of a movie! Its the best! I’m sure London is pricey too lol 😂
is there places with normal prices like Tenerife an uk
Watched all your NYC vlogs now and definitely decided that I won’t be going anytime soon. Ridiculously overpriced food. I’ve always been told American food is great value for money but obviously not.
I agree root beer does taste how germaline smells but it’s lovely
At first I thought he said root beer smells like Germany.
I have never been to N.Y.C. but I have been to New York New York in Vegas, and ate at Greenberg's Deli, and It was incredible! Best pastrami on rye I have ever had, and the best pickle I have ever had! So that menu is based on a real N.Y. deli, I don't understand why in one episode of Seinfeld, Jerry says he has never had a good pickle! When there must be Deli's with good pickles all over N.Y.
I opted for Clinton street baking company down the street when I visited NYC. Chicken and waffle was amazing...
That place is just a tourist trap now. Like a monument. Still worth a visit if you've never been to the famous spot. But there are much cheaper and better delis around town. Liebman's in the Bronx is way better imo.
Liebmans Deli, Bronx is $20.95 for Pastrami on rye, so still very pricey. I'm not doubting the quality though.
@@boston....morethanafeeling1976 true, with how much meat you get on these sandwiches $20 really isn't to out of the ordinary for pastrami. Pastrami goes through like 4 long steps to make so it takes alot of time and work to make it. It's brined, then dried and seasoned, then smoked, and steamed again. Like 4 time consuming steps. It's like what brisket is to BBQ.
@@eric1weecw001 I think what Lee did and share half each is exactly what I'd do. I noticed his friend couldn't finish his half.
@@boston....morethanafeeling1976 most definitely worth sharing it. I would go and try to eat a whole one. I'd just share a half and then maybe get a classic deli side like potato salad or a matzo ball soup or something like that
EVERYTHING in NY is overpriced and most things are over rated...caveat emptor!
I guess you have to record your visit. As the last couple times I was there, my sandwich was 1/2 the size of yours
They pile it up anytime they see a camera,