Importing a CNC from China & user tutorial
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- Опубліковано 10 лип 2024
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If you are interested in buying this or similar machine, please contact Nina (my sales representative) via the information below.
Email: export09@stylecnc.com
WhatsApp: +8618660133031
How much paper work is involved in importing?
There’s only a few documents needed.
First, they send you an invoice, you pay 50% via wire transfer. (Cheapest option, depending on your bank it can be $20~$50) then 50% before shipping.
After you pay the other 50% you will receive “bill of landing” which has all the details about shipping and tracking.
Before the shipment leaves the country you must file ISF (Importer Security Filing) to avoid fines
Just before the machines arrive you will receive Arrival Notice from the shipping company you will need to pay import fees
If you have a broker, they will temporarily store and file entry packet for you with the US government and you will be required to pay import fees based on the current percentage amount you paid for the machine.
If you don’t have a broker you can take delivery but you must file and pay import taxes with the government yourself within 30 days.
Really glad I found this. I have the the STM2030 coming in this Thursday and this added to the excitement! Hope everything is still going smooth.
The best video Ive seen on the process. Thanks.
I purchased one like this,had couple issues with delivery but customer support was really good,didn't run mashine yet,coming soon,but it seems a good product for this amount,by the way engineer Mike really knows his job,everything was fast and qualified installed by distance,i really recommend
I enjoyed your video, I just recently imported a fiber from China. Interesting to see how it went for you. Enjoy your machine and those beds look awesome.
thanks for this video, Yes I had a good business experience with StyleCNC, it was almost at the same time before the pandemic I ordered my laser fiber from them. First, I was worried since that was the first time I ordered a machine from China. But my fear was lessened with the continuous communication updates from them. When finally it arrived after 2 months, the equipment was good, I was not disappointed with their suggested upgrades when I was given the options. No regrets and I also plan to get this model as well.
Peter...great job. Great video. I really wish I can see more about the bed. Wow amazing
I'm glad this is a happy experience :)
Thank you so much for this video and all the valuable information you provided!!!! :)
That’s a nice video thank you for sharing.
Must say, the machine has to be upgraded for continued pro work, but that has been easy, cheap and with a lot of help from the manufacturer. Great thing taking in to though that non of the upgrades where bought from them.
The machine has made us grow a lot. So for 3000€ it was awsome value
I couldn’t agree more. As my business grows I’m definitely planning to buy more machines from them.
We bought one shiped to Barcelona Spain. Best thing from them is support and customer services. Super fast response and concise answers from technical engineer Mike
They have great customer service
I would be interested in your import fees and shipping cost, as I'm also from Europe and interested in buying one. THX :)
@@AwesomeSauceShow i can't remember the numbers as it was 3 years ago and I am not at that company anymore.
But I would recomend you contact a local customs agent.
Out of other experiences its cheaper
@@rho35100 Thank you. You are right, maybe even some import duties changed,...
Great Job making this Video.
Nice and very informative video. thanks Peter
EXCELLENT, thanks a lot!
this CNC is China is selling for $2000, I am from China, i knew the price for 1325 CNC router, they sell it to US and make huge profit
@ long liu where is the similar CNC for $2000 from China?
@@MrAbrock123 china， shan dong province。zibo city。ask somebody who understand Chinese. They will help you find.
Thank you
Thanks
Pretty helpful
Thank you!!
great info thank you
thats a good bed!
Nice video, thanks for sharing your experiences! Super helpful since I'm thinking about buying a 1212 size machine soon. I'm just across the river from you in Camas.. Which port did you ship in to? I assume they have a forklift at the port and load it onto your truck without extra charge, but any advice here would be really welcomed. Thanks again for sharing!
It was shipped to port of Tacoma. Geographically that’s the closest port to us, then it was driven by a semi to Portland Airport. From there, yes, they have a forklift to load it onto your truck. All I just mentioned is included in the shipping cost.
Curious, now that you've had this thing a few years, what are your thoughts on it? Pro's/Con's?
Really helpful video, thanks!
You can setup the pendant to read the g code speeds.
The instrument panel automatically displays the current speed, file name and elapsed time when it’s running.
Great video. I've been trying to buy all the parts and build my own 5' X 12' LASER/CNC table since 2019 with almost ZERO luck. Parts were ordered, but then cancelled form China. When relisted, they were twice the price ! Bought a 1800mm Ball Screw for the X-Axis... nope...FedEx lost it in shipping, only to find it 3 weeks later. Then, returned it to the seller because the box had been so badly destroyed some how. So I still need my 4X 3600m Guide Rails, and 2X 3600mm Ball Screws. NOPE, Chinese company wouldn't ship, said the shipping Max Length for Air was 2500mm...I didn't ask for Air, but no sale.
Aaaaand then COVID really kicked in, and everything was a no go for 6 months. So I'm $1,800 into a project I originally slated for $2,500 total, but that $2,500 won't hardly cover everything I need to finish it now. It is ALWAYS something ! Glad you got yours done the SMART way !!!
I honestly do no know how you thought you could build such a huge machine for so little money...maybe with rollers on aluminum extrusions and rack and pinion drive it would be possible but never ever with linear rails and ball screws. Doesn't matter where the precision parts come from. Precision costs money and cheap Chinese stuff is no particularly precise 😟 I'm sorry to have to tell you this.
What stepper drivers are these at 9:05? Btw great video,
As I understand The spindle VFD requires 0-10VDC to adjust the speed. The cnc controller usually generate a PWM output for controlling the spindle speed, you need to use a PWM to Analog converter module to convert the PWM signals to the equivalent analog voltage
Great vídeo. I've Operated a machine with this joystick control, and maybe it is great for serial parts, but when it's a small job, it's a real pain going from the computer, saving programe to flash drive, charging it into the joystick every time i had to change something in the programe. Is there any way to conect directly the PC by USB or similar so to make ir easier? Like you do on small CNC controled by a computer AND mach3? Thanks
There is a USB connection on the bottom of the controller that looks like something you’d find on a printer. But I’m not sure how it works I haven’t tried it.
Thanx for the video Peter... I'm looking to get one of these too... how is yours holding up... it's now, what... almost two years?
Yes its been 2.5 years now and so far I had to replace the spindle as it slowly began to wobble more and more. I was able to find the same one on Amazon and it only cost me $200 to replace. Now it works just as new. Although I contacted the manufacturer and they said that I can even replace just the bearings in the spindle. So I'm planning to do that and keep it as a spare.
Excellent work!! How is your business going? Must be very exciting!
Thanks! So far I was able to pay off the machine with just doing custom work for other people. But regarding the bed, I have ran into some issues with the electronics, but have since fixed them and now waiting for the final samples to finish the prototype. Can’t wait to start offering it. I’m very excited myself.
@@SmartFurnishing Awesome :) let me know how it goes! will be keeping an eye out for it!
Did you have to have certs like ASTM?
HI Peter can you tell me if you had anyproblem to hook the machinery to the standard of north america? i heard that there was some program and hooking problem whit those machinery thanks for your answer
Do you mean hooking it up to 240v?
I’ve had it for 3 years now and it’s working just as new on 240v system.
One issue I am having with picking out a machine is the voltage rating. One machine says 220V/380V 3 phase. Does this mean 220V single phase/380V 3 phase or both 3 Phase? I have only a 200A 220v single phase to the shop and getting 3 phase would be costly out of town a few miles away from main power lines. This is in the US.
It’s 220 ~ 240 single phase. 380v is 3 phase. Everything gets converted to DC anyway so I recommend 220 (240v).
@@SmartFurnishing Man that was a quick reply, thanks. Just didn’t want to get something that would require modifications to either the machine or my electrical supply to run it costing more money. Again, thank you and great video.
@@tumblevveed3586 Im in the process of converting a used machine from 380V 3-phase to 220V single phase. I had to replace the contactor with one that has a 110V coil, and the VFD from the 380 to one that converts 220 single phase to 220 3-phase. I have spindle turning, but I believe I’ve lost about 1/2 of the horsepower. You are smart to get the correct power.
They will make the machine to whatever specs you ask for. That is the thing here, you can literally ask for the machine to be built any way you choose for a surprisingly small difference. They can make a custom size, use parts from Germany, Italy, China, Taiwan, include or delete features, control systems, ATC, rotary axis, etc.
Hey mate, did your machine come with the Leadshine AC servo's? How are they holding up if so?
They are definitely AC but never looked at what brand. However I’ve never had any problems with them.
@petershchepin9080 thanks!
Je veux une vidéo sur le tournage
Did they ship it to Portland or did you have to pick it up at different port?
They shipped it to Tacoma WA port then it was loaded on a semi truck and taken to Portland Airport (PDX) I didn’t not arrange or pay anything extra to have it be transferred from Tacoma to Portland.
Hey Peter. What CAD/CAM software are you using in conjunction with the machine?
A guy is selling what looks like this exact machine from StyleCNC still in the packaging locally. The price looks comparable to what you paid overall to get it here. Do you have any advice on what I should look for before purchasing from him?
I'm using Mach3Mill. It works great with the machine. I haven't had any issues. It's quite easy to operate, I wouldn't worry about it. If you have a great deal on hand, go for it. Should you have any questions, you can always email me at Peter.shchepin@shepinbed.com
Hi，Here Bella from China , best 1325 cnc router please contact star01@starmacnc.com,buy machine from factory will get a best offer .
@@SmartFurnishing hello Peter, this way you jump the joystick? I mean Is there a way to send programmes directly to the machine, without using the flash drive?
@@ModulArt22 I’m not sure, I haven’t tried using the port.
Can you please post an update on the performance of this machine. Plus why are they using the outdated mach3?. The vfd looks like a chinese brand. What about the spindle? Any servo motor option? How was their english? Can you post video of the electronics enclosure.
Okay I’ll work on that. It’s been 9 months so it’s a good idea.
Not sure, that’s just what they recommended. I’ll try vfd, and do a closer look at the electronics that run the machine and add that to my next video
Yes they have different spindle types. However the machine model I chose only comes with this one. This machine is their entry level. They have a dedicated sales person and her English was perfect. I’ve also spoken with one of their engineers to clarify details about the system operation. No issues with English.
I got a STM1530C on the way (02/2023) and it has a 9kw HQD ATC spindle (Italy HSD is available as well). I upgraded to 850w Yaskawa servo motors as well. Plus a Delta Inverter 15hp HD. So yes, they can use any parts that you choose on your machine. They didn't even try to upsell me on these during the process, I just asked for them and they quoted a price. Mine has an LNC MW2200 controller with nice full computer screen - Taiwan made and not the greatest support in english, but looks super nice as a controller when you learn it. It has on-screen G-code simulations. It is all about price and what you want to pay for. Pay a little and get old controllers, pay some more (usually very little extra cost) and get better components.
We bought a CNC router from China about 4 years ago. It costed us over $10,000. We were able to set up the machine and installed the NC studio software. However, the instruction on the package on how to use the NC studio software is useless. Do you know where we get a CD(in English) showing step by step on how to use the NC studio?
Please send me an email to discuss more.
how has your experience been to this point? thinking of buying the same machine with ATC and vac bed with 4th axis but the first thing they did was add $6k from the $10k it said on the web site so im a bit sceptical. definitely dont have the money to lose. any advice?
Just negotiate with them hard. Offer 25% cash upfront if they reduce the price. They don’t get the money right away. It takes a while. So if you pay some of it as a money transfer and the rest with more secure way such as credit card or Alibaba. They will more likely to lean in.
The quality of the machine is worth it either way. I run mine for 7 hours a day and it hasn’t skipped a beat for almost 2 years now. Also, whenever I need something or have a question they always reply right away. I trust them at this point. That’s if you send your questions though WhatsApp.
@@SmartFurnishing yeah they asked me for my whats app but im not on whats app lol I guess i need to get with the times
I have a STM1530C (5'x10' with ATC and small removable 4th axis) on the way (Feb17th,2023). I got prices very close to the listed website price without negotiating (Final price was $19k shipped). I only asked for a $500 discount towards the end, but made it clear that I wanted them to take more care to build it right, than to make it absolute lowest price. This was after asking for several upgrades to the specs to make sure that the parts were top quality (Yaskawa 850w servos, Delta inverter, pneumatic rollers, extra vac pump, etc). You don't get something for nothing, and they can substitute components around to get the price you ask for. Or use better parts to get the quality you want. It doesn't make sense if you use this for work to care about $1000 in the end if you will have lower quality or hassles.
I don't have my machine yet, but I had no issues with the purchase, spent $125 on an inspection service that visited the factory, saw my machine (it has my name printed on the gantry), took pictures, identified components, measured sizes, test cut, etc.
So time will tell, but the company is legit and I have talked to several others in the US that have StyleCNC machines.
Hello.. please how can I adjust the movement limit on the X and Y axis. Kindly assist. Thanks
I have my shop in my home garage and I could only pass the machine through a regular 32-in door. Is this possible with this machine?
Unfortunately that would not be possible. Since the machine comes fully assembled, and the frame is welded together, the minimum width you would need is 80 inches.
Hi Peter, you said you did not recommend the license broker you dealt with. Are you aware of one that would allow someone to have a better overall experience?
Thanks for the video, it is packed with very valuable info!
I have imported 2 more machines now about a month ago and used Brownstone International. However, although they were professional and quick, some of their staff wasn’t very educated and lacked experience in some areas. Overall their cost was much higher too, for that money I kinda expected more. So I would recommend doing a lot more research on brokers as there is always going to be some pluses and minuses. Will depend on what you value more, time, experience, professionalism or cost.
@@SmartFurnishing Thank you! What are their rates approximately? Even though they lacked experience, did they make any "big" mistake during the process?
@@GGBel1 No big mistakes. Just a few close calls that I called them out on and they were able to address them quickly. Like some staff actually admitted on the phone that they were a rookie in my case. Since most of the stuff they import are small crates of clothing or other similar items, because of that they didn’t have a proper fork lift to handle the big crates. One of the clerks told me the guy who was driving it was also a rookie at it. But nothing bad happened, so… yeah.
Overall for the 2 imports they took a little over $5k.
hello sir, is any can help me for technical support for our carving machine 1325 model thank in advanced
Hello,
I live in Canada on the west coast. I am looking at upgrading my CNC machine. I was talking with Nick at stylecnc and he gave me a link to your video. I watched it and it is great. He mentioned that you are buying two more machines? Is that true? Are you still happy with you machine? I am a little worried about getting a machine out of China. Please let me know what your thoughts are?
Cheers
Peter
Hey Peter. Yes the machines are great. My first one, seen in the video, still works great. I bought 2 more from them, took delivery about 5 months ago and have been using them right out of the box with no problems. They are a great company and I trust them so much so that I wired them the full amount. Everything arrived undamaged and perfectly working. I even asked for some extra spare parts as some of them are difficult to find here in the USA. I have a friend who is interested in buying machines as well and he asked if we can buy them through me. All of my machines are running constantly with no issues. But even if there are some minor bugs, the company has always been very responsive and helpful to solve them.
Thanks for the information!@@SmartFurnishing
as i know, DSP A11 can not read F value, you set it read F, i wonder does that work ?
I’m not sure what F value is. But I do know that it didn’t use to read the set feed speed. After changing the settings it does. So if a cut needs to change feed speed half way through the cut it will do that. However the spindle speed cannot be set in G-code: it can only be set manually before the cut. If spindle speed is different half way through the code the machine will pause for 10 seconds to allow you to change it. Also if you have a coolant setting in your G-code, that can also be read, so I use it to run air blast at the bit. And I can turn it on or off in the G-code.
@@SmartFurnishing gotta. yeah, DSP A11 it has limited functions, simple and easy controller, like what u said, can not used to read the set feed speed. but still we can develop simple functions on it, like G code to control coolant as u said.
I think about one month for buy cnc from China, problem is language, but anyway good video thanks Peter
We ordered this machine from China a year ago, the cost of shipping, taxes and delivery were crazy. The machine is amazing. This was for a side business a friend I started but our daily jobs take more of our time and we are willing to sell. Located in Houston Texas. Let me know if you are interested. Our machine is the same as the one from the video but has the water tank to cut metals too.
@@shadowlaram241 have to sold the cnc yet?
@@shadowlaram241 I am also in Houston
@@jtcmlt1 whats your email?
@@shadowlaram241 How do I send you my email privately? Or, what is the name of your business so I can find you. Otherwise, I will be ordering from China soon.
Thank u for your video. I'm shopping for a CNC router machine for cabinets and this video helps a lot. I like the price. It's a fraction of what the others are asking. Can u please let me know if the software is include and quality and precession. Thanks in advance
There is no software included. The machine operates on a usb drive. So it basically has its own computer. But if you’re asking about G-code, there are lots of different options available to generate it. I personally use fusion 360, after you model your 3D object, you then switch to manufacturing tab where you create the G-code for the machine. There are lots of UA-cam videos on that. Other then that, the machine computer is easy to use, as you can see towards the end of this video.
@@SmartFurnishing OK I'm a bit confused. What I ment is the software to use for designing different cabinets and wood carving. Such as the Mozaik and there are more options. Thank u for your response
@@Prince-dh8oh unfortunately I’m not aware of software that focuses on your needs. But I’d look into V-carve, they have different versions but only available for windows.
@@SmartFurnishing Thank you.
@peter Hi, since you’re using fusion360 to run the cnc router, which post processor from fusion library will this machine accept? Thanks in advance
Hi Peter, My partner and I are looking at a machine from Style. It seems you are very satisfied with the unit you bought. Any complaints?
No complaints, I’m actually considering to buy another just like it.
@@SmartFurnishing We ordered this machine from China a year ago, the cost of shipping, taxes and delivery were crazy. The machine is amazing. This was for a side business a friend I started but our daily jobs take more of our time and we are willing to sell. Located in Houston Texas. Let me know if you are interested. Our machine is the same as the one from the video but has the water tank to cut metals too.
@@shadowlaram241 please send me pictures of your machine to Peter.shchepin@shepinbed.com
@@shadowlaram241 If Peter isn't interested please let me know, I've been looking at picking up a machine like this.
@@shadowlaram241 did you sell the cnc router yet?
Do you have Your website about those smart furniture ?
Shepinbed.com
are you also needed?
Hello sir and madam, precisely I am looking for a plasma machine for metal
Thank you for the info , how hard is to learn the software ?
Are you referring to fusion 360?
I was mostly self thought. I was introduced to it in college and then learned to use it watching UA-cam videos. But overall it’s very intuitive and easy to use once you get a chance to play with it. I would recommend starting by making a semi-complex geometry, that way you’ll be able to quickly learn the basics.
@@SmartFurnishing thanks you so much , right now we are in the market for cnc , is frustrating since we can not afford to pay the money that vendors wants , we do kitchens and closets and your video help us , at least we see an option , thanks again .
It is my pleasure to help the community the best I can. Simply by providing the information that I couldn’t find myself.
They quoted me $3000 to ship the same machine to Portland…. Wonder why?
That’s because the shipping industry is very busy right now with a lot of back order, so it takes more time, which allows shipping companies to rise prices.
@@SmartFurnishing yeah I figured, that’s unfortunate because the price point is great. I have a few questions. Are the motors nema 34? I assume they are servo motors? What is the rapid movement speeds it can do when in the air? And can it cut around 500ipm full depth on 3/4 ply with a 3/8” bit? That was what I used to run my Ez-router at.
Only the spindle is a servo motor.
The rest are Steppers and there doesn’t seem to be a limit to how fast you can run them. I was able to run mine at 850in/min
I'm interested in buying this machine. What are your thoughts about it, 2 years later? Thanks
It’s working just as good as the time I received it. So I actually just ordered 2 more.
@@SmartFurnishing Awesome! Thanks for the feedback!
@@SmartFurnishing how much is your total for this ones? I am about to order one. Thanks
@@jtcmlt1 prices vary widely on market and demand. For those reasons they asked me not to share that information.
@peter shchepin , I understand 👍. Do you have an email where we can talk about the process of importing?
Great video, thanks. Are you still happy with it?
Yes. No issues. It’s a workhorse.
Did you research machines from taiwan. They are supposed to be of higher quality.
At the time I was looking for the most affordable or best value.
Very helpful video, thank you. If you don't mind sharing, who was the contact you worked with at Style? I don't have Whatsapp (may need to get it) so email address? Thank you.
Her name is Nina +86 186 6013 3031
forget buying from china, we did, it was a huge mistake!!!...stuff was short shipped, we paid for things and never received them... its a massive headache, and then the company goes bankrupt....it was just a mess....
You definitely have to do your research of the company you’re buying from and how long they have been in business. This is why I only recommend StyleCNC. I’ve bought 2 more machines from them. They have always stayed and touch and haven’t let me down.
do you have a contact please I am in az
The sales person I’ve spoke with is Nina, you can reach her through WhatsApp +86 186 6013 3031
@@SmartFurnishing so much trouble with this company its untrue was hoping I could chat to you maybe you could help
@@cornishman1954 you can contact me via email: Peter.Shchepin@shepinbed.com
@@SmartFurnishing hi, would you please to share with me the contacts of the broker, who helped you with all shipping procedures? Thanks a lot
more information on the machine and LESS on everything else