South African here. These are super common to see in the hands of private security officers. I am not the most knowledgeable on the intricacies of the gun law here, just enough to have licensed my guns, but it is my understanding that these are easier to license as they technically fall under a pistol category and are therefore less restricted than a semi auto rifle. Essentially low level companies can purchase a ton of them, have a gun that is legally a pistol which handles like a rifle and so match most threats they would face. I think they look sexy in a sten gun sort of way, simple but extremely useful.
I owned an LDP in Rhodesia for a couple of years. The advertising said it was capable of firing 600 round a minute. I used it a lot on the range and never had any issues with it. Very nice size and it sat between the driver and passenger seat when travelling because there was always a threat of ambush even on the main roads. South Africa refused import when I immigrated there in 1980. I gave it to a friend who had been in the BSAP Special Branch and was then farming.
I have been asking for this video for a while now, so glad to see it. My grandmother had one of these during the bush war. It saved her and her 3 daughters lives and if it wasn't for one of these i would likely not have been born. You would be absolutely amazed by the stories she has to tell. I have been begging her to write book for years haha.
It was not the South Africans that called it a Rhuzi, it was the Rhodesian press. In fact there were a number of similar firearms manufactured in Rhodesia at the time and journalists lumped them all together as Rhuzis.
@@s.marcus3669 Hey there, I'm German and jewish, and there's something called "Schinui Schem" that allows us to change our names. That's kinda common in Germany, but I don't know how it works in the United states. I guess it depends on local laws if it's possible to change your name. In Germany it's very hard and expensive to change a name. You have to pay at least a couple thousand euros. Ah, and one last thing: Verstehst du denn noch Deutsch, oder haben deine Eltern dich direkt englisch erzogen, und die Deutsche Sprache ganz verworfen? 👋
You have to admit, there's some interesting engineering takes in this to make it functional and to simply manufacture, specifically the bolt and feed ramp. That thing is neat as hell.
I do remember the Rhodesia version of the Kommando so great to see more info on this innovative firearm. Recall the demilled part kits advertised in Shotgun News (USA) in the late 80s or early 90s came with smoothbore barrels.
manufacturing wise, this is a very clever design. Everything is a bent piece of sheet metal, a milled tube, or a milled piece of round stock. The lower is a piece of molded plastic. The barrel is about as simple as a barrel can be. I love all the work that went into making this easy to build.
So glad this channel has the support it has, really quality content and thoroughly investigated, giving one insight into not only how, but why the weapon was made. Epic 😍
My aunt had one and carried it when she went out at night with my uncle, the only doctor in his town willing to go out at night to see patients during the Rhodesian war....I did meet Alex du Plessis a few times in South Africa.
I suppose it's not entirely necessary, but I feel like they missed a trick in using the latch for the stock to also lock the end cap for the receiver into place
Lol you could have designated "burst magazines." Like load one mag with hot ammo, and then the burst mag has like 3 crap rounds, a good round, three crap rounds, a good round, etc.
I'd love to see this on the range, and hear you impressions on accuracy. Practical accuracy, because that's what things like this are all about. (Meaning semi-auto carbines, or subguns converted to semi-auto) Compared to a Pistol, this has a shoulder, and offhand contact point, so you can hold it steadier, and get a better sight picture. Also better site distance, though these crude sights probably don't let you really take advantage of that. You can't really adjust the zero on a hole drilled through a sheet metal bracket.
In theory, the whole bolt assembly can be done on a lathe, all the vertical machine operations can be done using the cross slide and an angle bracket, where the cutting implement is held in the chuck. Those are simple enough to not miss the lack of a fully operational slide as in a vertical mill.
Ian. Your channel is one of only a few that I happened across and immediately got my subscription. I thoroughly enjoy everything you do. As well as with Karl on Inrange Tv. And you deserve the 1 million subscribers that you are surely about to get. Keep up the great work!
Really slick construction with the two-piece bolt and receiver-mounted feed ramp. And in addition to easing disassembly, the semi-captive recoil spring is there because the ejector rod is off-center on the plug, which obviously wouldn't work with a thread-in piece. I bet that if there was a full-auto version, any police, security or even military would've been very happy with them.
Early PDW! Nice! It seems really simple to maintain. Though the trigger and sear system seems like it could be simplified to make it more reliable and cheaper.
Found out minutes ago that the motorcycle gang chief in Mad Max Fury Road packed a stockless Kommando LDP. I first thought it was some kind of cut down Sten that had been augmented to look "post apocalyptic" but now know it's actually a very practical, real world firearm. The more you know 🌠
Pine Cone guessing it’s mostly because Ian knows the tech and engineering and history and stays on topic (too many of the firearms shows get derailed into political posturing or talking about how manly it makes them feel or other nonsense).
Very slick bolt design! It simplified production, thus lowering time and cost, and yet did nothing to functionality. Oh, and that rotating feed ramp? Awesome! 👌
Some of it is probably reliability. Two parts that can move about (even a little) means a bit more wear than one part that does the same. That being said for cheaper guns it makes sense
I love that the designer used an "epoxy putty" to make the original. I've used putty epoxies in the past to make some really clever things but never a complete firearm receiver.
seems like a sensible gun. I could also see this being useful with a small scope and a longer barrel, for light work against rodents and the like or for plinking cans and targets.
I have to say, that little retaining plate at the back of the receiver, is pretty smart. Makes disassembly much easier and you're not looking around for that cap piece. I wonder if it adds to the strength of the piece, with the locking pin, spring loaded nub, whatever you want to call it. I have to wonder how it shoots, that doesn't seem to be much travel. Well, it's enough.
Kommando in South African military were the reserve/countryside militia. Kommando being the Boer's republics typical Citizen army units. So it retained original meaning there, where in the rest of world , thank to their daring feats, became an alternate name for Incursors/Assault troops.
Back in the 80s, I owned one of these in Canada. There was not that many of them, imported by OGT out of Metachewan Ontario. Sold it after a few yrs. The LDP was an interesting gun fore sure.
That second sear at 10:41 looks like the second sears from Walther MPL and Star Z70, but, since the gun has no full auto, there is no need to create more rules, just a kind of "half cock" for open bolt. Something most military weapons don't have. Kudos for South Africans.
@@ForgottenWeapons Wow! wonderful. A east german Para told me how awesome it is. I like to dream of: 5.7x28 in a weapon like the RAK, semiaouto wen folded and if the souldestock is set a high cadence like the H&K VP 70m. But Yeah silly dream.
So my question would be was it ever intended to be full-auto? It doesn't seem to make much sense for it to be an open-bolt semi-auto. I mean I suppose it is slightly simpler than making it a closed-bolt blowback action, but the difference is what? A floating firing pin and one small spring? Its got some clever ideas, but a closed bolt weapon would have shot so much better.
I kind of wonder if these things were designed to be easy to convert to full auto. They were sold in a time and place where the people buying them had an unusually high chance of actually needing to use them and where the government had bigger things to worry about than chasing down some farmer in the middle of nowhere for an illegal gun conversion, particularly because they were fighting against the same enemies that farmer might run into.
Nope, never meant to be full auto, never meant for military/police use. The Sanna 77 in it's Rhodie G15 guise was full auto and the makers attempted to market it for military use but failed. But that is a different (but similar) gun by a different manufacturer. The Rhodies (and South Africans) always preferred full power rifles (read FN/ FAL or R1). Keep the enemy at a distance, a long distance.
@@max_archer Ahem.... Remove the disconnector? That is it. Super illegal, but not that hard. Or file down the disconnector until it won't trip. Of course it probably shoots at some weird fire rate since it is probably not balanced as semi auto design. Both the trigger and disconnector are essentially stop to the default mode of the gun which is "ratata ratata ratata" as long as there is ammunition in the magazine. Open bolts are nearly always easy to convert. Hence why many countries and legislations take a very dim view on open bolt semi autos. Essentially treat them as "semi auto only as long as honest person handles" and basic premise of law enforcement is "assume people lie and aren't always honest". Where as closed bolt firing gun has to have active hammer/striker to set of the firearm.
I imagine one of the problems if us sales stemmed from the ban on open bolt guns (though that may have come later), and the ease in which it could be converted to full auto. You'd literally grind down the stiking face of the lever that presses down the disconnecter so that it depresses it enough to cycle but not enough to disconnect the trigger from the sear and its full auto. Anyone with a grinder (or a file for that matter), and a bit of time could do it.
Great gun, from mechanical point of view better than UZI, very well thought out, very effective and easy to manufacture as well. I'm totally impressed!
Totally love it! I wouldn't have any problem in being seen carring this ''lady's SMG''...And i really like to see a video with Ian shooting one of these...
I could imagine how well it panned out going to the PM's office with your groundbreaking new SMG design. Did he get excited and run up, waiving it over his head screaming "Look what I have! Look what I have!"
@@anthonys8947 The crew that she tried to make the deal with regarding the gas tanker, where she asked Max his name and he claimed it didn't matter. She decided to call him "Fool," and the gunman with the Kommando started firing on them from a higher vantage point.
One of the first guns I learned to shoot/strip/clean. We had a Rhodesian version with sideways folding stock which also could be used as a front grip (could be vertical or flat.) I never heard the term LDP until now, we called ours the GM16. We would go to the range on weekends and afterwards My Dad, brother and myself would sit in the lounge on newspaper strip and clean the guns. My dad would do an MAG or Bren, my Brother (8 years old) would do the FN Fal and the GM16 would be mine to do. Happy times! I was 5 years old when the war stopped and the gun was handed in to the police.
“A man would typically run around the farm with a rifle”
Oh like a lever action
“Like a FAL”
Oh
Tough crowd, especially with poachers and what not.
@@WingMaster562 I think I know the "what-not" to which you refer......
@@frickpoo6644 How is it a problem to own guns?
Real man like real gun you know what I’m sayin
@@WingMaster562 Especially the what not.
Someone needs to make a forgotten weapons playlist for "guns that balance on their own magazine"
If someone makes this please send me a link
@@rangernolen8291 ua-cam.com/video/dQw4w9WgXcQ/v-deo.html
@@GunsNGames1 damn you kid, you got me
@@GunsNGames1 ive known that url for a long time, yaint trickin me
Kel tec rfb, with no mag
I still don't understand how you don't sell branded pens labeled as "universal gun disassembly tool"
BS Kustomz I’d buy em.
I’d buy them 😂 I have too use pens all day at work 🤣
South African here. These are super common to see in the hands of private security officers. I am not the most knowledgeable on the intricacies of the gun law here, just enough to have licensed my guns, but it is my understanding that these are easier to license as they technically fall under a pistol category and are therefore less restricted than a semi auto rifle. Essentially low level companies can purchase a ton of them, have a gun that is legally a pistol which handles like a rifle and so match most threats they would face. I think they look sexy in a sten gun sort of way, simple but extremely useful.
I'd rather have an R5. BTW I love SA...
@@gingerfitzgeraldtv2896 There are around 7 million whites if I recall correctly. So basically a sliver of the population here. I'm English and Greek.
@@gingerfitzgeraldtv2896 what's wrong with you boy...
Thanks for the info and that Christiano is a racist POS.
He is, but he isnt completly wrong, sa is starting to get more and more racist against whites...
Me: Looks like a strange but interesting gun
Ian: *says a french sounding name*
Me: That makes sense.
Lots of Belgiums settled South Africa.
Afrikaners are descended in part from French Huegenots.
@@johnstacy7902 "Belgiums"
Back in the '80s in Johannesburg my high school maths teacher was a Mrs du Plessis which naturally, behind her back, evolved into Mrs Two-plus-three.
Ian is ENGLISH!
I owned an LDP in Rhodesia for a couple of years. The advertising said it was capable of firing 600 round a minute. I used it a lot on the range and never had any issues with it. Very nice size and it sat between the driver and passenger seat when travelling because there was always a threat of ambush even on the main roads. South Africa refused import when I immigrated there in 1980. I gave it to a friend who had been in the BSAP Special Branch and was then farming.
Excellent simplistic design. Easy to manufacture.
The two bandits who were constantly playing cards in the movie "The Gods Must Be Crazy" were armed with this weapon.😊
That little hook disconnector is a dremel tool cut away from being full auto.
Which is why the ATF got the red ass for open bolt guns in the 80s.
All gun laws are unconstitutional. They should all be thrown out.
i can imagine that was the whole idea, u get the gun and then ur a dremel away from an uzi
I have been asking for this video for a while now, so glad to see it. My grandmother had one of these during the bush war. It saved her and her 3 daughters lives and if it wasn't for one of these i would likely not have been born. You would be absolutely amazed by the stories she has to tell. I have been begging her to write book for years haha.
Great weapon.I used to carry one of these in my trips throughout Rhodesia doing service calls.Very managable weapon while driving and initial shots...
That feed ramp is genius. Somebody put a lot of thought into making it simple to manufacture. [takes notes]
Looks like it's a (very heavy) stamping. Idk if something like this would fit in the Grease Gun, but if so it would have been a celebrated innovation.
Looks like an M3 "Grease Gun" had a baby with an Uzi...
Looks more like Czech Sa vz. 23 to me.
More like the Tech 9 (or KG-9 or whatever) than the Grease Gun.
I saw it and instantly thought it was a pem63 knock off.
Lol my thought exactly on seeing it a m3 and a uzi had a drunk one night stand 😂
To me it looks like a beretta m12s at least the top half anyway
Balashnikov and Rhuzi, the South Africans sure know how to pick a good name.
Wasn't Balashnikov an Isreali?
@@jackrush8752 Oops, you're right. l was thinking about the Vektor R4, but Balashnikov designed the Galil instead.
@@kurtbergh didn't Balishnakov change his name to Galilee or something like that when he moved to Israel ?
It was not the South Africans that called it a Rhuzi, it was the Rhodesian press. In fact there were a number of similar firearms manufactured in Rhodesia at the time and journalists lumped them all together as Rhuzis.
@@s.marcus3669 Hey there, I'm German and jewish, and there's something called "Schinui Schem" that allows us to change our names. That's kinda common in Germany, but I don't know how it works in the United states. I guess it depends on local laws if it's possible to change your name. In Germany it's very hard and expensive to change a name. You have to pay at least a couple thousand euros. Ah, and one last thing: Verstehst du denn noch Deutsch, oder haben deine Eltern dich direkt englisch erzogen, und die Deutsche Sprache ganz verworfen? 👋
"Tony Stark built this in a CAVE!" more or less.
FacelessDeviant ”WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS!”
FacelessDeviant F for Iron man
You can just imagine some South African guy buying one of these as a cheap, compact, second gun for the wife and kids.
Except we are only allowed 1 gun for defence. Lame.
Welcome to africa. The Balkans of of the world instead of just Europe.
@@codeguise Better than a knife, a machete and a slingshot.
@@codeguise What, like per domicile? Build a shed for your child/armed guard.
@@hoagielamp6543 we need to apply for a liscence for each firearm, and each person my only own one for self defense
South African guns are legit the most interesting by far!
Israel: takes European guns and makes them better
SA: takes Israeli guns and makes them better
@@AntonAdelson Basically 😂 But we do have our own interesting designs
You have to admit, there's some interesting engineering takes in this to make it functional and to simply manufacture, specifically the bolt and feed ramp. That thing is neat as hell.
I do remember the Rhodesia version of the Kommando so great to see more info on this innovative firearm. Recall the demilled part kits advertised in Shotgun News (USA) in the late 80s or early 90s came with smoothbore barrels.
manufacturing wise, this is a very clever design. Everything is a bent piece of sheet metal, a milled tube, or a milled piece of round stock. The lower is a piece of molded plastic. The barrel is about as simple as a barrel can be. I love all the work that went into making this easy to build.
So glad this channel has the support it has, really quality content and thoroughly investigated, giving one insight into not only how, but why the weapon was made. Epic 😍
My aunt had one and carried it when she went out at night with my uncle, the only doctor in his town willing to go out at night to see patients during the Rhodesian war....I did meet Alex du Plessis a few times in South Africa.
Reminiscent of the Czech vz 26.
It's actually direct copy of Sa vz. 23, the 9mm predecessor to vz. 26 with some minor (mainly ergonomic and visual) modifications.
Reminiscent is an understatement.
Was looking if someone noticed that too
that was the very first thing i thot
Teh Check lordz hath grinned!
I suppose it's not entirely necessary, but I feel like they missed a trick in using the latch for the stock to also lock the end cap for the receiver into place
Yeah I fully expected that piece to be a detent for the end cap.
I subscribed because you can pronounce du plesis correctly,showing you done extensive research
FYI: Alex DuPlessis worked for Wilson Combat in the mid-to-late 2000s, at the time when the company manufactured his own ADP pistol.
"Unintentional" two and three round burst. Right.
Perhaps loosely controlled by buying some shiddy ammo?
Lol you could have designated "burst magazines." Like load one mag with hot ammo, and then the burst mag has like 3 crap rounds, a good round, three crap rounds, a good round, etc.
I guess whoever receiving the leads won't mind
I'd love to see this on the range, and hear you impressions on accuracy. Practical accuracy, because that's what things like this are all about. (Meaning semi-auto carbines, or subguns converted to semi-auto) Compared to a Pistol, this has a shoulder, and offhand contact point, so you can hold it steadier, and get a better sight picture. Also better site distance, though these crude sights probably don't let you really take advantage of that. You can't really adjust the zero on a hole drilled through a sheet metal bracket.
Also fires from open bolt.
Sure u can just bend the piece of metal til its on target😂😂
As a South African I got a little giggle out of the attempt at pronouncing Du Plessis like its French origin
I know right😂😂
Care to try to put the local pronouncing into text form?
@@SgtKOnyx Really similar, just without the French twang. "Doo Plissee" I guess but it's really just the difference in accent.
@@SgtKOnyx forvo.com/word/bismarck_du_plessis/
I didn't think it was that bad
In theory, the whole bolt assembly can be done on a lathe, all the vertical machine operations can be done using the cross slide and an angle bracket, where the cutting implement is held in the chuck. Those are simple enough to not miss the lack of a fully operational slide as in a vertical mill.
I honestly would buy this! It looks awesome!
Ian. Your channel is one of only a few that I happened across and immediately got my subscription. I thoroughly enjoy everything you do. As well as with Karl on Inrange Tv. And you deserve the 1 million subscribers that you are surely about to get. Keep up the great work!
Hey, you pronounced my surname pretty well! +respek!
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I am also a Du Plessis and I totally agree with you.
"Aimed more at women then at men".
Phrasing, dude! ;)
*TIGER* *MAFIA*
D E A D L Y K O M M A N D O
NON STOP DEADLY ACTIONS
GWA GWA GWA GWA GWA GWA GWA GWA
Bartosz Szulc SUPA KICKA
D I N O S A U R S
Really slick construction with the two-piece bolt and receiver-mounted feed ramp. And in addition to easing disassembly, the semi-captive recoil spring is there because the ejector rod is off-center on the plug, which obviously wouldn't work with a thread-in piece. I bet that if there was a full-auto version, any police, security or even military would've been very happy with them.
Agreed
It looks like a caulk gun from Hell. I love it.
Early PDW! Nice! It seems really simple to maintain. Though the trigger and sear system seems like it could be simplified to make it more reliable and cheaper.
Yeah, we have a return of the universal gun disassembly tool!
Found out minutes ago that the motorcycle gang chief in Mad Max Fury Road packed a stockless Kommando LDP. I first thought it was some kind of cut down Sten that had been augmented to look "post apocalyptic" but now know it's actually a very practical, real world firearm. The more you know 🌠
HOLY MOLY! Forgotten Weapons is almost to 1 MILLION SUBS!!!
Pine Cone guessing it’s mostly because Ian knows the tech and engineering and history and stays on topic (too many of the firearms shows get derailed into political posturing or talking about how manly it makes them feel or other nonsense).
Ian is a gentleman, no doubt.@@Justanotherconsumer
Very slick bolt design! It simplified production, thus lowering time and cost, and yet did nothing to functionality. Oh, and that rotating feed ramp? Awesome! 👌
This 2-piece bolt design is absolutely ingenious... and so is its ejector... and so is its feed ramp...
How is it no one thought of it before?
The same sort of ejector was already in use with the Ingram M-10, also a telescoping bolt design.
One fun little PDW to learn on.
Sad day when my father had returned with his welded up bolt for deactivation.
I have a parts kit for one of those. The barrel is a smooth bore. It's the one with the sheet metal stock catch. Had it for years.
They are supposed to be rifled but to important the kits they had to do away with that. Was a real shame
Happy to see Universal disassembly tool comes back again
Looks like a blend of Cz26 and Uzi. Seeems very simple and incredibly easy to manufacture.
I love these attempts at really 'simple' guns. There is a real elegance to them ....
It looks a bit like someone put a glue-gun on a pistol body and added a few parts.
My first thought was "oh look a baby m3"
Maxime Vincent More so a grease gun.
We made several caulk gun "guns" when we were kids playing army. One of them was supposed to be an Uzi but actually looked a lot like this thing!!
@@orangelion03 I've shot one, they work
I'm surprised we don't see more complex machined parts broken down into multiple, simpler to machine parts, like that bolt.
Some of it is probably reliability. Two parts that can move about (even a little) means a bit more wear than one part that does the same. That being said for cheaper guns it makes sense
Looks like a child between an Uzi and a Sten
Ha the gun for ladies comes with a purse...
@@gehtdianschasau8372 i think Lara only used the M1911, Desert Eagle, Browning HP and my favourite one the h&k usp 9mm match
Lol just imagine some lady carrying this around
"THATS MY PURSE, I DON'T KNOW YOU"
BRTBRTBRTBRTBRTBRTBRT
I love that the designer used an "epoxy putty" to make the original.
I've used putty epoxies in the past to make some really clever things but never a complete firearm receiver.
Looks like you'll hit 1,000,000 subscribers by the end of the year. Congrats good man.
seems like a sensible gun.
I could also see this being useful with a small scope and a longer barrel, for light work against rodents and the like or for plinking cans and targets.
It actually saved.lives in Rhodesia. So not a plunked but a legitimate weapon that was respected. Not everything can be an AR
There's a bottle opener on the South African carbine, why no cork screw on the "Ladies" gun? (Marketing opportunity missed!)
cptreech cause our ladies drink beer
@@mariusoneill8102 - or that stuff that's beer mixed with something else?
I know about the bottle opener on the Israeli Galil but can't remember anything about one on a South African rifle. Any details?
I have to say, that little retaining plate at the back of the receiver, is pretty smart. Makes disassembly much easier and you're not looking around for that cap piece.
I wonder if it adds to the strength of the piece, with the locking pin, spring loaded nub, whatever you want to call it. I have to wonder how it shoots, that doesn't seem to be much travel. Well, it's enough.
Thank you ,Ian .
This gun was in Mad Max: Fury Road. Was used by the Rock Rider leader.
Stylish purse with an even more stylish gun on the inside!
Kommando in South African military were the reserve/countryside militia.
Kommando being the Boer's republics typical Citizen army units. So it retained original meaning there, where in the rest of world , thank to their daring feats, became an alternate name for Incursors/Assault troops.
Dude, 10/10 for that Afrkaans surname pronunciation!
I like the look. I want one
Back in the 80s, I owned one of these in Canada. There was not that many of them, imported by OGT out of Metachewan Ontario. Sold it after a few yrs. The LDP was an interesting gun fore sure.
That second sear at 10:41 looks like the second sears from Walther MPL and Star Z70, but, since the gun has no full auto, there is no need to create more rules, just a kind of "half cock" for open bolt. Something most military weapons don't have. Kudos for South Africans.
I love the fact most of the south african guns you find are basically just pipes that someone stuck some parts on
Looks like a kid drew a tech 9 from memory and then someone built this to match.
Those "screws" that clip the stock in the forward position, are common or garden M6 roofing bolts.
Best line ever " universal disassembly tool"
If an uzi and a stengun had a child.
Is there any chance to see the: PM-63 RAK?
Yes, it's filmed and coming.
@@ForgottenWeapons sweet! Got to fire it twice myself. Shooting video too, maybe?
Yes, I did. :)
@@ForgottenWeapons Wow! wonderful. A east german Para told me how awesome it is.
I like to dream of: 5.7x28 in a weapon like the RAK, semiaouto wen folded and if the souldestock is set a high cadence like the H&K VP 70m. But Yeah silly dream.
@@bleh8789 "Got to fire it twice myself." How many of your front teeth are remaining?
It's like the sten submachine gun f*cked an uzi and this is the result.
That ejector is actually very clever
So my question would be was it ever intended to be full-auto? It doesn't seem to make much sense for it to be an open-bolt semi-auto. I mean I suppose it is slightly simpler than making it a closed-bolt blowback action, but the difference is what? A floating firing pin and one small spring? Its got some clever ideas, but a closed bolt weapon would have shot so much better.
I imagine the original design catered for a full auto version for military / police use. Would be simple to have both designs it seems.
It's got a wire stock and crappy sights, the thing isn't meant to be shot 300 yards.
I kind of wonder if these things were designed to be easy to convert to full auto. They were sold in a time and place where the people buying them had an unusually high chance of actually needing to use them and where the government had bigger things to worry about than chasing down some farmer in the middle of nowhere for an illegal gun conversion, particularly because they were fighting against the same enemies that farmer might run into.
Nope, never meant to be full auto, never meant for military/police use. The Sanna 77 in it's Rhodie G15 guise was full auto and the makers attempted to market it for military use but failed. But that is a different (but similar) gun by a different manufacturer. The Rhodies (and South Africans) always preferred full power rifles (read FN/ FAL or R1). Keep the enemy at a distance, a long distance.
@@max_archer Ahem.... Remove the disconnector? That is it. Super illegal, but not that hard. Or file down the disconnector until it won't trip. Of course it probably shoots at some weird fire rate since it is probably not balanced as semi auto design. Both the trigger and disconnector are essentially stop to the default mode of the gun which is "ratata ratata ratata" as long as there is ammunition in the magazine.
Open bolts are nearly always easy to convert. Hence why many countries and legislations take a very dim view on open bolt semi autos. Essentially treat them as "semi auto only as long as honest person handles" and basic premise of law enforcement is "assume people lie and aren't always honest".
Where as closed bolt firing gun has to have active hammer/striker to set of the firearm.
I imagine one of the problems if us sales stemmed from the ban on open bolt guns (though that may have come later), and the ease in which it could be converted to full auto. You'd literally grind down the stiking face of the lever that presses down the disconnecter so that it depresses it enough to cycle but not enough to disconnect the trigger from the sear and its full auto. Anyone with a grinder (or a file for that matter), and a bit of time could do it.
Alex du plessis also made a very nice 9mm in the 90s. Amazing little weapon
that bolt design is a great simplification
I love these funky South African and Rhodesian guns from the 70's and 80's.
Great gun, from mechanical point of view better than UZI, very well thought out, very effective and easy to manufacture as well. I'm totally impressed!
this gun was in the move, the gods must be crazy.
Totally love it! I wouldn't have any problem in being seen carring this ''lady's SMG''...And i really like to see a video with Ian shooting one of these...
First video of the morning and I genuinely just said to myself "Good Morning Ian!"
a very well thought and simple carbine
One of our platoon weapons was the Uzzi and this product merely looks like a variation thereof.
LDP made this gun with the K.I.S.S method. I like the engineering that went into this Firearm. Very interesting.
Cool! Fascinating design.
It looks like kel tek got ahold of the sten blueprint and made another $189 abomination 😂😂😂
I could imagine how well it panned out going to the PM's office with your groundbreaking new SMG design. Did he get excited and run up, waiving it over his head screaming "Look what I have! Look what I have!"
No need to worry about special ordering or scrounging a replacement part, just take it down to the neighborhood machine shop and you got that part.
This looks very cool. I'd like to see the barrel lengthened by a few inches, but otherwise, I'd enjoy one of these.
South Africa : "Hey Czech Rep. can we copy your VZ.24?"
Czech Rep : "Yes, but change it a bit so it isn't too obvious."
South Africa :
Sanctions did it. We where not allowed to get foreign guns so we took what we had and made similar stuff or copied the design and improved on it.
0:06 perfectly balanced as all things should be
Fun factoid, the Kommando was seen in Mad Max: Fury Road, used by the mountain biker gang member that spoke with Furiosa.
I don't remember a gang member riding a mountain bike.
@@anthonys8947 The crew that she tried to make the deal with regarding the gas tanker, where she asked Max his name and he claimed it didn't matter. She decided to call him "Fool," and the gunman with the Kommando started firing on them from a higher vantage point.
One of the first guns I learned to shoot/strip/clean. We had a Rhodesian version with sideways folding stock which also could be used as a front grip (could be vertical or flat.) I never heard the term LDP until now, we called ours the GM16. We would go to the range on weekends and afterwards My Dad, brother and myself would sit in the lounge on newspaper strip and clean the guns. My dad would do an MAG or Bren, my Brother (8 years old) would do the FN Fal and the GM16 would be mine to do. Happy times! I was 5 years old when the war stopped and the gun was handed in to the police.
The GM16 was a different gun to the LDP/Kommando. The GM was a copy of the Czech Vz.23, it was also made in SA as the Sanna 77.
@@denzilvenske6315 that may be so, but all the parts inside look the same to me! No doubt there was much "sharing of ideas" back then... :)
There are videos of these things being shot full-auto. No idea if they were built that way, or modified though. Neat to see them spraying lead though!
"It needs a bit of encouragement." *pulls out a mallet* Yeah, that's a bit of encouragement.
I like this, was really surprised
Fun fact: Rhuzi sounds exactly like "Ruzie" which means fight/conflict/argument in South Afrikaans and dutch
South Afrikaans?
I recognized the gun from the movie The Gods Must Be Crazy so I had to see the video.