I have managed a bindery department for the last 20 years.If you are going to use that little padding press I'd suggest jogging the stack all the way to the left or right side so you get a good clean & square pad. It'll be a much better looking product. Also just FYI for anybody trying this at home, an Exacto knife or small sized utility knife works much better than the special padding knives.
I have been using an old butter knife for about 30 odd years, it does the job. The video is a bit amateur hour to be honest. Yeah you need a side to jog the paper up to. I usually run oversized paper with crop marks and after padding guillo the job down to size. I think this is more for the do it yourselfers than for a commercial print shop.
I've been in the print business for ------ ever. I have a couple of observations on your method: 2 coats (a lot lighter than the drippy ones you did) are better than 1, partly because it looks/feels better. I add a couple ounces of water to the jar of glue to help it spread more readily. Don't dip your brush in the glue so deep, because no matter how good you are at rinsing the glue out after you're done, some will stay behind and build up in the ferrule, making brush replacement more frequently necessary.
Thank you for showing both ways (with and without a padding press) all the way through. Other videos I've seen show the padding press and say, "You can do it with a dictionary, too." I tried figuring it out on my own, but I had the dictionary back a couple inches (so as to not get glue on it), and it made the pages fan out at the front. I couldn't figure out how to do it just right. Then I found your brief yet magical video, and it helped! :)
Thank you. My niece who is in the 2nd grade brings home all her classwork, and homework from school. So much paper. We will be recycling her work and gifting her teacher with a note pad as well as using note pads in our home. :)
I like to lay down a teflon sheet on the counter before playing with any glue. They sell them for crafters including card makers and the like but for smaller cheaper versions some can be had for lining cookie sheets and even for use on BBQ grills to prevent foods from falling through the grates. For some reason our last padding project fell apart in less than a year of making the pads. The glue didn't hold them together. Not sure if the glue happened to freeze or not. Decided to purchase a quart of the stuff today now that spring might be past a hard freeze here in NW MT. Yes living dangerously but the product ordered states it is freezer stable pretty much. What ever that means. After being in house arrest for the past year we're a bit stirr crazy and taking chances...and giddy about that too. Loved your humor here and loved taking a mini refreshment course on how to successfully pad a stack of cheap paper and magically turn them into perfect note pads. Great video and love the touch of humor. We so need humor these days.
I have issues with the paper getting wavy. Is it likely an issue of too much compound? I'm using a ChamPadCo press, I'd think there is plenty of pressure.
I know this is old, but hoping someone can help. Can you tell me what thickness of chipboard works best for notepads? There are thousands of options available online and i recently ordered some that turned out to be flimsy cardboard no thicker than cardstock. Any recommendations would be very much appreciated! Thanks!
If you were going to make small notepads (post-it note size-ish), would you pad them when they were larger, then cut, or cut first then pad? Thanks for a wonderful video!
So, I have been having issues with the pages not sticking together when one is removed (carbonless paper- 2 sheets). Is it a matter of using more padding compound?
Carbonless paper is designed to NOT stick together to other sheets when using NCR Glue. If your are trying to pad a larger stack of carbonless paper (NCR) but don't want them to separate, just use standard white padding compound. And as always with padding, LESS IS MORE! A thin coat goes a long way! Good luck!
What an AWESOME video!! I just went from a novice without a clue to one that knows enough to be dangerous!! LOL I priced some custom pads I wanted built for my service technician team and I literally fell on the floor when I saw how much printers charge for notepads. Thank you for showing us just how simple it is. Now my custom 5" x 8" notepads can be built with about 1/3rd the cost of a printer's quoted price.. :)
I can't help wishing I could have been at the printer's to see you literally fall on the floor when they told you the price. I bet they were surprised! It's the kind of thing we all wish we had the nerve to do.
Hey Robin - we really don't recommend using cheese cloth for basic padding applications. That would cross more into paperback book binding, which is outside of our wheelhouse :)
Interesting. For now I used an ordinary glue gun to add addition glue to a heat-binding cover sheet when restoring a publication of some seize. The padding compound certainly has its own use when working with stacks of paper. Those padding presses are IMO way over-priced. In the end the simple versions are barely more than a box. Nice, though your site sells the padding presses, you mention the alternative production method. Don't think I'll go for the sumo wrestler though.
Buy colored padding compound, we used to get red or cut with some white and make a kind of a pink. The color allows you to see the amount of compound you are applying easier than white. Another thing, fold a piece of paper and put it between the edge of your heavy book and the pads so as not to get glue on the book edge. Unless you are using an old book you care nothing about. But why ruin a book, any book? I worked in many a printing shop with different kinds of padding presses, some used clamps, one even had bungee cords, hell I have even used the clamp on the paper cutter. But again, put sheets between the edges to protect equipment from excess glue. Lastly, wash the brush, lots of warm to hot water works.
Cool video, dood! Wish I could have seen a nice little closeup of the glue itself to get an idea of the texture after it hardens. Just want to measure up the consistency of store bought padding compound vs the factory-grade quality.
Hi there - you can find the Martin Yale J1811 @ www.cfsbinds.com/binding-equipment/padding-supplieschallenge-paddy-wagon-padding-press.html. I would also suggest the Challenge Mini-Padder as a lower-cost alternative. Located on the same page.
yeah you can...but they will be all glued together as in video....if you want them to be in their separate forms ie top middle and bottom sheets glued together but not glued to the other forms you need fan apart glue...hope this helps.....2 months later lol
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I have managed a bindery department for the last 20 years.If you are going to use that little padding press I'd suggest jogging the stack all the way to the left or right side so you get a good clean & square pad. It'll be a much better looking product. Also just FYI for anybody trying this at home, an Exacto knife or small sized utility knife works much better than the special padding knives.
I was thinking that... like why is it in the middle? 😆 No experience at all (that's why I'm here!), but I do a lot of crafts.
I have been using an old butter knife for about 30 odd years, it does the job. The video is a bit amateur hour to be honest. Yeah you need a side to jog the paper up to. I usually run oversized paper with crop marks and after padding guillo the job down to size. I think this is more for the do it yourselfers than for a commercial print shop.
I've been in the print business for ------ ever. I have a couple of observations on your method: 2 coats (a lot lighter than the drippy ones you did) are better than 1, partly because it looks/feels better. I add a couple ounces of water to the jar of glue to help it spread more readily. Don't dip your brush in the glue so deep, because no matter how good you are at rinsing the glue out after you're done, some will stay behind and build up in the ferrule, making brush replacement more frequently necessary.
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Always two coats and the second a bit wetter than the first.
An old video, but it's what I needed. Thanks! Also, I enjoy a presenter with a sense of humor!
Thank you for showing both ways (with and without a padding press) all the way through. Other videos I've seen show the padding press and say, "You can do it with a dictionary, too." I tried figuring it out on my own, but I had the dictionary back a couple inches (so as to not get glue on it), and it made the pages fan out at the front. I couldn't figure out how to do it just right. Then I found your brief yet magical video, and it helped! :)
So glad that we could help Jenn. Have a great day!
Thank you. My niece who is in the 2nd grade brings home all her classwork, and homework from school. So much paper. We will be recycling her work and gifting her teacher with a note pad as well as using note pads in our home. :)
That is such a good idea!!!!! Thank you! :D
I like to lay down a teflon sheet on the counter before playing with any glue. They sell them for crafters including card makers and the like but for smaller cheaper versions some can be had for lining cookie sheets and even for use on BBQ grills to prevent foods from falling through the grates. For some reason our last padding project fell apart in less than a year of making the pads. The glue didn't hold them together. Not sure if the glue happened to freeze or not. Decided to purchase a quart of the stuff today now that spring might be past a hard freeze here in NW MT. Yes living dangerously but the product ordered states it is freezer stable pretty much. What ever that means. After being in house arrest for the past year we're a bit stirr crazy and taking chances...and giddy about that too. Loved your humor here and loved taking a mini refreshment course on how to successfully pad a stack of cheap paper and magically turn them into perfect note pads. Great video and love the touch of humor. We so need humor these days.
Yes... all of this. What an excellent and clear video. This is me trying to stop myself from going down the book binding rabbit hole.
We cannot climb out of the hole, but we love it here!
No problem Zax - we're so glad you avoided any unecessary embarrassment and that you found the video useful!
I've misplaced my sumo wrestler, but I'll make do with some heavy books. Thanks for the informative and entertaining video about padding compound.
I was looking for easy and cheaper way to bind / padd my own works, i am glade i saw your youtube video. Very good job. thanks
Bizu
Thank you for that thorough explanation!
Finally this is what ive been looking for. Thank you so much
I have issues with the paper getting wavy. Is it likely an issue of too much compound? I'm using a ChamPadCo press, I'd think there is plenty of pressure.
Great video! Very thorough and informative.
Excellent tutorial, very well done.
I know this is old, but hoping someone can help. Can you tell me what thickness of chipboard works best for notepads? There are thousands of options available online and i recently ordered some that turned out to be flimsy cardboard no thicker than cardstock. Any recommendations would be very much appreciated! Thanks!
Excellent video, thanks for creating it!
What other type of glue can u use
If you were going to make small notepads (post-it note size-ish), would you pad them when they were larger, then cut, or cut first then pad? Thanks for a wonderful video!
Informative and funny! Thank you!
So, I have been having issues with the pages not sticking together when one is removed (carbonless paper- 2 sheets). Is it a matter of using more padding compound?
Carbonless paper is designed to NOT stick together to other sheets when using NCR Glue. If your are trying to pad a larger stack of carbonless paper (NCR) but don't want them to separate, just use standard white padding compound. And as always with padding, LESS IS MORE! A thin coat goes a long way! Good luck!
What an AWESOME video!! I just went from a novice without a clue to one that knows enough to be dangerous!! LOL I priced some custom pads I wanted built for my service technician team and I literally fell on the floor when I saw how much printers charge for notepads.
Thank you for showing us just how simple it is. Now my custom 5" x 8" notepads can be built with about 1/3rd the cost of a printer's quoted price.. :)
I can't help wishing I could have been at the printer's to see you literally fall on the floor when they told you the price. I bet they were surprised! It's the kind of thing we all wish we had the nerve to do.
Great vid. Very helpful and you have such a nice voice. So relaxing. :)
Thank you so much for your help! Now I can make personalized notepads. :))
Great video! Very helpful
Where can i buy this martin yale here in the philippines? Thanks
How would you use cheese cloth when using padding compound
Hey Robin - we really don't recommend using cheese cloth for basic padding applications. That would cross more into paperback book binding, which is outside of our wheelhouse :)
Interesting. For now I used an ordinary glue gun to add addition glue to a heat-binding cover sheet when restoring a publication of some seize. The padding compound certainly has its own use when working with stacks of paper. Those padding presses are IMO way over-priced. In the end the simple versions are barely more than a box. Nice, though your site sells the padding presses, you mention the alternative production method. Don't think I'll go for the sumo wrestler though.
@SilverScreenReviews Glad we could help!
Thank you very very much! This will definitely come in handy.
Buy colored padding compound, we used to get red or cut with some white and make a kind of a pink. The color allows you to see the amount of compound you are applying easier than white. Another thing, fold a piece of paper and put it between the edge of your heavy book and the pads so as not to get glue on the book edge. Unless you are using an old book you care nothing about. But why ruin a book, any book? I worked in many a printing shop with different kinds of padding presses, some used clamps, one even had bungee cords, hell I have even used the clamp on the paper cutter. But again, put sheets between the edges to protect equipment from excess glue. Lastly, wash the brush, lots of warm to hot water works.
Great suggestions. Sounds like you have some Kinko's experience under your belt!
Thank you for this.
What the glue dose ues with book
what is the mixture of padding glue?
Very helpful! Thanks!
Cool video, dood! Wish I could have seen a nice little closeup of the glue itself to get an idea of the texture after it hardens. Just want to measure up the consistency of store bought padding compound vs the factory-grade quality.
anyone here who can suggest me where to find that PADDING PRESS used in this video?
Hi there - you can find the Martin Yale J1811 @ www.cfsbinds.com/binding-equipment/padding-supplieschallenge-paddy-wagon-padding-press.html. I would also suggest the Challenge Mini-Padder as a lower-cost alternative. Located on the same page.
can I use padding glue on ncr paper to make a notebook?
yeah you can...but they will be all glued together as in video....if you want them to be in their separate forms ie top middle and bottom sheets glued together but not glued to the other forms you need fan apart glue...hope this helps.....2 months later lol
+Mike Coopland If I need only a few NCR sets (20), can I just use padding compound, in this example, 60 sheets, and separate every 3 sheets?
+Charles Cho If you want them to separate into their respective 3 sheet sets, you must use an NCR/fanapart adhesive, NOT padding compound.
thanks for the info.. very practical way\
Very informative Thank you!
Thanks thanks thanks!!!
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Thankyou sir
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Here we cut, scratch that side before applying glue..
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This is great, thank you so much!
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@Nixon Hezekiah yup, have been watching on InstaFlixxer for since december myself =)
@Nixon Hezekiah definitely, have been using InstaFlixxer for months myself =)