2025 Toyota 4Runner First Look: Limited, TRD PRO and Trailhunter!

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  • Опубліковано 8 кві 2024
  • We get a first look at the all-new 2025 Toyota 4Runner Limited, TRD PRO and Trailhunter trims. How does it compare against the new North American Land Cruiser (Prado)? We look at the fact, figures and style of this highly-anticipated SUV.
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  • @celo8019
    @celo8019 Місяць тому +51

    Ryan, I seriously have to give you and the crew major props for the quality of your videos. I just watched TFL’s videos, and while they’re my go to for a lot of things they missed the mark with the quality and detail of their released video. Looking forward to your future updates and tests!

  • @TheGrapplingLabBJJ
    @TheGrapplingLabBJJ Місяць тому +138

    Once my 4th gen dies I’ll buy this, so in 10 years

    • @ettiennenathan
      @ettiennenathan Місяць тому +16

      30 years from then, the 7th gen will be released.

    • @RangerRickTV
      @RangerRickTV Місяць тому

      Haha

    • @JoeSwanikerFord
      @JoeSwanikerFord Місяць тому +9

      It will never die!😂

    • @murphyochin6354
      @murphyochin6354 Місяць тому +1

      When you consider the difference in fuel economy you may change your mind.

    • @traxxi2003
      @traxxi2003 Місяць тому +6

      Brother you won’t have to replace your current 4Runner in ten years unless you want to!! On my used 1997 I drove her for 346,000 miles until I sold her. My neighbor still driving her!! I really like the Trail Runner trim. But I’m afraid that it will be a $60K+ 4Runner!!

  • @calvinspires1220
    @calvinspires1220 Місяць тому +75

    The color on the trailhunter is phenominal. I'd LOVE to see that color on a GR86.

    • @tourch247
      @tourch247 Місяць тому +1

      I really dont like the grey/green that is inside the trailhunter. It looks like a weird grey mint or something, and I guess they dont have color options bc they keep showing this ONE combo

    • @mikegta14
      @mikegta14 Місяць тому +1

      Somebody wrapped a similar color on a supra and it looks amazing.

    • @_C1tron
      @_C1tron Місяць тому

      If they did that I would definitely choose the GR86 over the BRZ

    • @ZachMauch
      @ZachMauch Місяць тому

      I really wish it was not exclusive to the trailhunter. I have no reason to go that high in trim.

  • @rossipremier
    @rossipremier Місяць тому +32

    Great video, at first I was bummed by all of the stock Toyota supplied footage and that you weren't actually there. But the level of detail you went into and covering all the trims was so much better Than, the video I just watched where the two guys were there. Great job

  • @filiberto599
    @filiberto599 Місяць тому +37

    Most trusted and unbiased car review channel. Coming here first for this preview!

    • @filiberto599
      @filiberto599 Місяць тому +2

      I am surprised it's longer than the LC. I though Toyota would size it smaller to differentiate it more.

    • @ALMX5DP
      @ALMX5DP Місяць тому +2

      @@filiberto599 virtually identical in length, I suppose just some bumper protrusions that net the length difference.

  • @Wild1995
    @Wild1995 Місяць тому +8

    Will never forget when you took your 4runnner and showed us Death Valley. Still one of the best videos on youtube

  • @jasoncowan98
    @jasoncowan98 Місяць тому +14

    I've owned two 4runners over the last 24 years and this will be my next. LOVE it!

  • @ninjamode24
    @ninjamode24 Місяць тому +1

    You’re the reason why I now own a 2024 4runner TRD Off Road Premium 🙏🏼

  • @frebnewman6403
    @frebnewman6403 Місяць тому +4

    Love my 2022 4Runner. I can’t imagine how long those engines will last and the problems they will have. I do like the styling.

    • @karkule5919
      @karkule5919 Місяць тому +3

      The 5th gen. is miles more elegant looking than this.

  • @macs2015
    @macs2015 Місяць тому +3

    I just purchased my outback wilderness (largely influenced by this channels reviews) and truly love it. But man, this trailhunter is just on another level of manliness.

  • @ajaxgrac6547
    @ajaxgrac6547 Місяць тому +6

    I think the combination of Toyota's B-roll and Ryan's commentary is expertly done!!

  • @sohaibkhalid9424
    @sohaibkhalid9424 7 днів тому

    This was one of the (if not the) best 4Runner videos

  • @mighty_bunny
    @mighty_bunny Місяць тому +3

    I really loved the production quality of this video! It made me want to sit down and _really_ pay attention to this one.
    I've been viewing long enough to know you're a big fan of the 4Runner, so this was a very creative way to show your passion and build a lot out of a little. I dunno if this might be an odd thing to compliment you on but it really stood out to me so I wanted to let you know. ✨

  • @jimnevin763
    @jimnevin763 Місяць тому +1

    Ryan, when it comes to off road analysis of passenger vehicles you are the best prepared by far. The hard work that you put into your testing facilities and video’s, not to mention your knowledge makes a world of difference to me. The fact that you didn’t waste your time traveling down to San Diego for a non-driving review says it all. Let the posers and interlopers do that.

  • @gregbrannon9687
    @gregbrannon9687 Місяць тому +4

    Thanks for the review, love the videos in general. Will the turbo require premium gas?

  • @1375soroush
    @1375soroush Місяць тому +2

    Great detailed review! Loved the comparison. Do we know if any trim of the 2025 4runner will have the KDSS suspension like the 5th gen TRD offroad has?

  • @steffencave9363
    @steffencave9363 12 днів тому

    Love it! All the other reviews I’ve seen on the 6th Gen 4Runner are largely carbon copies of each other with the same static footage. You brought a refreshingly different approach and like others have already shared, you deserve major props for standing out in a crowded space. I put my deposit down on a Trailhunter- can’t wait! Thanks again!

  • @ericr.3759
    @ericr.3759 Місяць тому +5

    As an owner of a 2021, I love the evolutionary styling, and appreciate that Toyota did not immediately depreciate my vehicle with a radical change. I'm now a loyal Toyota buyer for life.

  • @1111ALM
    @1111ALM Місяць тому +28

    Not surprised he got one of the first few invites to review the new 4Runner. This guy just does it effortlessly with perfection. GX 550 OVERTRAIL PLUS, is my first choice, then the trailhunter.

    • @EvilSardine084
      @EvilSardine084 Місяць тому +6

      Did he though? Isn't he just talking over footage release by Toyota? Or did I miss him saying something about an invite in the video that I missed? Throttle House at least made a video of it in person.

    • @mikegta14
      @mikegta14 Місяць тому +5

      He never went to the reveal lol. It's a voice over

    • @du3223
      @du3223 Місяць тому

      Yup, I feel duped.

    • @lorddrake8566
      @lorddrake8566 Місяць тому

      Correct

  • @TahoeKing
    @TahoeKing Місяць тому +15

    What a beautiful car and a true 4x4 beast. I'm stunned by Toyota recent design language... So aggressive and a huge improvement over their usual classical boring designs

    • @sportsinvestor101
      @sportsinvestor101 Місяць тому +3

      I don't understand Toyotas logic with some of these new suv releases. You have a 4runner vs a LC250 vs a GX550 (99% similar everything outside engine setup). How do buyers distinguish between a 4runner vs a LC250 when they are all made in the same factory. And when you look at the prices between a high end TRD Pro 4runner vs LC250 entry level trim, it's virtually same price, similar engine setup, etc. Then you got the GX550 with way too much tech vs tried and true old classical keep it simple engineering on Prado/GX460, etc. New Toyotas are a big disappointment that simple rely on loyal Toyota buyers to buy these new unreliable tech toys on wheels. Nissan/Infiniti 2025 models earned my business. Snatched a 24 Nissan Patrol as well to complement my 21 LX570. Now how to import it to the states from Dubai is a different story. 😅

    • @TahoeKing
      @TahoeKing Місяць тому

      @@sportsinvestor101 Toyota is doing what any titan company likes to do: siturate the market segments with their cars to make any customer whatever he wants, finds something within their wide range! And this strategy, as costly as it is for Toyota, works well in sales! You mentioned all these Toyota models with small differences and very close pricing but you can't ignore that all of them sell very well and actually all of them and all of Toyota models in general are extremely hard to get as mostly pre-booked for months, if not over a year! I gave up trying to find a new rav4 hybrid limited as it is a 16 months wait! Thinking of a CRV as it is stock

    • @TahoeKing
      @TahoeKing Місяць тому +1

      @@sportsinvestor101 good luck getting that Patrol to the states! As someone who lived for a long time in the middle east I know Patrol very well and drove many models all the way to the one you got (I drove the 2021 which is mainly the same as the one you got... Actually my manager has it and since we were in good relationship I took it for a drive 😁) ... It's such a nice car but heavy as hell on gas (and I owned 2 Chevy Tahoes so I'm used to 8 Cylinder engines consumption).

    • @TahoeKing
      @TahoeKing Місяць тому

      ​​@@sportsinvestor101 Toyota is doing what a any titan company is doing, flooding the market with their cars so it fits all kinds of customers. It is a costly strategy but toyota has deep pockets and it works well for them in sales as all their models are selling like crazy and pre booked for up to a year in advance. I gave up trying to find a rav4 hybrid limited and now considering crv instead as it is stock

    • @TahoeKing
      @TahoeKing Місяць тому

      ​​@@sportsinvestor101I don't agree their new models are a disappointment, it is the opposite! They are finally getting rid of their boring designs and (a car as an appliance) mentality, and mind you I'm not a big fan of Toyota but recently I'm considering their models as interesting, although pricey. Of course their high reliability and resale prices adds big time to the attraction, as a previous Nissan Altima owner who suffered heavily from Nissan lousy quality and even suffered to sell the car as scrap as no scrap shop wanted it 😂

  • @ashleylitebrite6971
    @ashleylitebrite6971 Місяць тому

    I"ve waited years for this review of the new 4R. Awesome, I'm stoked!

  • @danaterrell3099
    @danaterrell3099 Місяць тому +1

    I've had two 4 runners, 1998 and I currently have a 2012. Love them both.
    Dana t.

  • @ashleylitebrite6971
    @ashleylitebrite6971 Місяць тому +1

    After finishing your review, I must say it's a bit fancy. Awesome no doubt, just fancy. I'm curious to see the SR5. Loving that everest color. Excellent video Ryan, thanks from Florida!

  • @Azrael8
    @Azrael8 Місяць тому

    The cinematography skills here are 10/10. Top tier quality content like always.

  • @DarkDramon
    @DarkDramon Місяць тому

    Can't wait to watch the review of these guys. They look damn good.

  • @davec8894
    @davec8894 Місяць тому

    As always Sir.....an Awesome and thorough introductory review. Looking forward to a proper trail opinion now. My first impression is that my 5th Gen 2020 TRD ORP "Venture" (non-KDSS) just gained several $K in resale value. And....I am not going to sell it just to have the newest 6th Gen. Not really "that" impressed, especially considering price "leaks" bouncing around the net. Just my $0.02 worth.
    You have surely answered many new car buyers questions, over many years and makes/models, simply from your transparency, tact and detailed information!
    Much respect and thank you for what you do Sir......Happy Trails!

  • @McNuggets-419
    @McNuggets-419 Місяць тому +6

    Im sad you didnt get to go to the launch event as you are my favorite car reviewer :(

  • @westcoast708
    @westcoast708 Місяць тому +4

    Looks great I'm stoked

  • @ericmoss8344
    @ericmoss8344 Місяць тому +1

    Those look fantastic! Can't wait to see the dealer markups and waiting times on getting one of these. :)

  • @HotSizzleTV_
    @HotSizzleTV_ Місяць тому +1

    Been waiting for this now 4 years I’m getting the trd off road premium I’m glad i waited

  • @TheSandipDev
    @TheSandipDev Місяць тому +2

    So the trailhunter doesn’t have a full time 4wd while the limited does but doesn’t have crawl control or mts. I want the trailhunter but i live in Seattle and it rains all the time. I like the added safety of awd. Will the trailhunter part time 4wd make sense in seattle rains?

  • @JD-yz2iz
    @JD-yz2iz 14 днів тому

    Great videos! Question- do the second row seats come completely out? We like to sleep in the vehicle and keep our gear on the roof.

  • @LetMeCook86
    @LetMeCook86 Місяць тому

    Great camera work!

  • @zackvandyke5649
    @zackvandyke5649 Місяць тому

    I’m looking forward to a full review of this!

  • @davidheaton6206
    @davidheaton6206 Місяць тому +2

    Probably need to do this on a different video Ryan, but Toyota really needs to consider putting multi terrain select all 4WD 4R, Land Cruisers, etc. Even some crossovers of other brands have MTS. Yes leave the rear locker for the more off-road oriented trims like off-road Pro TrailHunter. But out here in the Outer Banks sand mode is clutch.

  • @marklynn6907
    @marklynn6907 Місяць тому +1

    Best video of the new 4Runner I’ve seen so far. Great Job! Looking at the Taco it seems like top trims of the new 4Runner will cross 60K. It’s the world we live in, but seems very close to the new Land Cruiser…. Seating position of the Land Cruiser will be better without feet laid out in front of you like the 4Runner..

  • @alexgavieres8293
    @alexgavieres8293 Місяць тому +3

    Regarding that Everest comment....
    It's funny if you know that the Bronco used to have trim packages called Standard, Mid, High, and Luxe.
    For 2024, they combined the High and Luxe, so folks in the forums understand this as High/Luxe.
    😂

  • @user-ik7ux6cf9i
    @user-ik7ux6cf9i Місяць тому

    First of all I like your videos. Secondly I do love all Toyota models presented in the USA

  • @ZachMauch
    @ZachMauch Місяць тому +2

    Glad this gets memory seats. I still can't believe they left that off of the 2024 Tacoma. Litterally the only feature I noticed missing. Hopefully the 2025 Tacoma fixes that problem.

  • @anthonymartinez2206
    @anthonymartinez2206 Місяць тому +1

    I think you can take my money now for a Mudbath Pro. Great video as always!

  • @chriscarter3304
    @chriscarter3304 Місяць тому

    Nice video Ryan. Different then everyone else.

  • @jaredmarcotte4950
    @jaredmarcotte4950 Місяць тому

    Great video! So is the LC just for mall crawlers now??

  • @papadougpapadougsadventures
    @papadougpapadougsadventures Місяць тому +1

    I have a 21’ TRD Pro that I thought was great until I saw my friends new Tundra. With the interior changes I’m interested. What I didn’t hear is MPG numbers. That really does make a huge difference as to my interest in a potential upgrade.

  • @TrailTape
    @TrailTape Місяць тому

    MTS in 4hi already works on the first MTS setting (mud/sand iirc). I've used it in my 2021 ORP

  • @carlwhite570
    @carlwhite570 Місяць тому +3

    It's still sad to see the V6 die

  • @JM-nz8gw
    @JM-nz8gw Місяць тому +3

    AMAZING!

  • @flyguy2021
    @flyguy2021 Місяць тому +1

    Same. My 2005 is only halfway to 500k miles. Just getting broken in.

  • @MoneyShot_CM
    @MoneyShot_CM Місяць тому

    That looks tough, so good. Love that tan color

  • @joegrahe3958
    @joegrahe3958 Місяць тому +18

    My 2015 LTD coming up on 200k miles. After seeing this, there's no reason to not go to 300k. It's nice, but not as nice as no car payments. And I hope the engine performs better than it looks. What a mess.

    • @nastysoda9212
      @nastysoda9212 Місяць тому +2

      oh, it won't. the engine is an absolute pos

    • @mitchb.1746
      @mitchb.1746 Місяць тому +5

      All those hoses in the engine bay just make me think of how less reliable this engine will be. This is going to majorly change the ownership experience of a 4Runner and, IMO, take away one or the key benefits of the 4Runner over its competition.

    • @videogazer801
      @videogazer801 Місяць тому +1

      Wrong, starting at low $40k’s, this is very affordable for so many Americans and will sell out instantly

    • @1TDECK
      @1TDECK Місяць тому

      The engine compartment looks like a horrendous pile of problems, 4 cylinder with a turbo no thanks. Next they will make it with a CVT lol. I love my old 4 runners (2000 and 2002) for their simplicity and everything else that made Toyota so good. New Toyotas are overly complex expensive garbage.

    • @joegrahe3958
      @joegrahe3958 Місяць тому

      ​@@videogazer801is that satire?

  • @danemiller1242
    @danemiller1242 8 днів тому +1

    Hey I drive a Ford Everest, based on the ranger chasis , great vehicle , more comfortable that the gen5 4runner I drove as a rental stateside

  • @moizahadsaggu5462
    @moizahadsaggu5462 Місяць тому +1

    Just loved mud color and pro trim

  • @micahsteadman3209
    @micahsteadman3209 Місяць тому

    I like it. Looks like a mini 3G sequoia and I’ve been fond of it since it came out. I can’t wait for your reviews of this and the Land Cruiser.

  • @jfish9014
    @jfish9014 Місяць тому

    It looks fantastic- I’d love one!

  • @TI-Daddy34
    @TI-Daddy34 Місяць тому

    I have a '21 ORP. Just happy they fixed the cup holder. If you know, you know.

  • @GPSS87
    @GPSS87 Місяць тому

    Finally, it looks amazing!

  • @darrylk808
    @darrylk808 Місяць тому

    Where's it made? Does it still have the hump when seats are down?

  • @matrix-fh9tn
    @matrix-fh9tn Місяць тому

    Any reason for no engine cover on turbo's?

  • @larkt6693
    @larkt6693 Місяць тому +1

    They nailed it .. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @FreedomAtRisk
    @FreedomAtRisk Місяць тому +3

    New 4Runner: young and edgy. New Land Cruiser: mature and reliable.

  • @miccijrful
    @miccijrful Місяць тому +1

    Top contender for my money! Looks nice!

  • @mapletreerocker
    @mapletreerocker Місяць тому

    Nice! Looks great and I personally like the TRD Pro trim. The trailhunter is a bit too much offroady in its looks but sure that it is defenitely a game changer.

  • @Frank-kk7gh
    @Frank-kk7gh Місяць тому

    Great job Toyota! On the TRD PRO fenders like the Trail Hunter would be more practical. Thank for the awesome video!

  • @mcximus
    @mcximus Місяць тому

    That TRD Pro in mudbath look fantastic.

  • @ShulaMG
    @ShulaMG Місяць тому

    I’ve been waiting for a hybrid. Now I’m excited. My tundra will be getting a new home soon.

  • @marceljohnson2215
    @marceljohnson2215 Місяць тому

    Looks awesome and I figured they change the power train to the 4 cylinder like the taco. This would be a step up on fuel economy and hopefully ride quality, may temp me to go for it

  • @N6PCD
    @N6PCD Місяць тому +1

    Nice, but I’m still glad I got the 2023 TRD ORP.

  • @simpleredvigor
    @simpleredvigor Місяць тому

    Looks great!

  • @willb6070
    @willb6070 Місяць тому

    Well I was thinking about maybe a Ranger with the FX4 package or a Tacoma TRD Off Road (still need to sit in it though) but now seeing the 4Runner, I’m thinking this in the TRD Off Road trim. Totally appropriate for living here in the PNW. Really like the style and the cues to previous gens.

  • @J_Brian
    @J_Brian 23 дні тому

    9 Trims was not expecting that, but hopefully that engine is solid...

  • @cockycamrocky9432
    @cockycamrocky9432 5 днів тому

    35 inch BFG Goodrich ko3 would look amazing 🤩 in this beautiful car

  • @4x4hoth
    @4x4hoth Місяць тому

    It’s pretty sweet. Can’t wait for the Stout Trailhunter.

  • @Arbutuscoveretreat
    @Arbutuscoveretreat Місяць тому

    The colours are…super awesome!!

  • @andregonsalvez9244
    @andregonsalvez9244 Місяць тому

    Looking good so far a bit of the old and new updates . I will probably get used to the 4 banger eventually, after all the first and second generations had 4 cylinders . 😊

  • @TheKingPrawn114
    @TheKingPrawn114 Місяць тому +2

    I'm not a Toyota guy, but that looks good.

  • @rand0mGT
    @rand0mGT Місяць тому +1

    What do we know about when the current 5th gen will stop being sold?

  • @bucky7badger7
    @bucky7badger7 Місяць тому +1

    Did they announce cargo capacity and payload? Curious how it compares to the LC.

    • @drivingsports
      @drivingsports  Місяць тому +2

      The door tag only says mid-800lbs payload max. But I'd wait until final numbers are announced before relying on that. Toyota has not announced official payload yet.

  • @dorrito
    @dorrito Місяць тому +1

    Awesome!!

  • @JoeSwanikerFord
    @JoeSwanikerFord Місяць тому

    They still did well for it to look like a typical 4runner, even though it has a tacoma vibe to it. Am digging it. It has no engine cover. The TRD looks very cool.

  • @18HunnidBK
    @18HunnidBK Місяць тому +2

    The gloss on the fender flares on the TRD PRO is a must stop. Those things are going to scratch EASY! When on a trail.

  • @nicholassinovich4257
    @nicholassinovich4257 Місяць тому

    It certainly did not disappoint. I think it's the perfect edition for the newest evolved 4Runner

  • @DADA-pl4tm
    @DADA-pl4tm Місяць тому +1

    Great presentation, do you know what torso height is for the driver? Always wanted a 4 runner but find my head hits the roof.

  • @rampar77
    @rampar77 Місяць тому

    I sure loved the new interior/dash.

  • @jackielombera6963
    @jackielombera6963 Місяць тому

    Do we know what trims are getting the third row options?

  • @lukiw7044
    @lukiw7044 Місяць тому

    Great. Can't wait when You take hands on it and take it to yors off road course. Greetings

  • @michaelburton
    @michaelburton Місяць тому

    Trail hunter gives me halo warthog vibes 😎🤤. Looks great

  • @johnoswaldfebresjr.4318
    @johnoswaldfebresjr.4318 Місяць тому +2

    It’s beautiful

  • @Babumoshaaai
    @Babumoshaaai Місяць тому +4

    FINALLY!!!

  • @javierjavier-ht3yu
    @javierjavier-ht3yu Місяць тому

    I like when the truck forward over hard ground and it maintenance its stability.

  • @BillyBRCT
    @BillyBRCT Місяць тому

    Think this has a chance of becoming PHEV in the coming years? As part of a midcycle refresh?

  • @TacoTruck17
    @TacoTruck17 Місяць тому +1

    I really like the new 4runners!

  • @matthewnew13
    @matthewnew13 Місяць тому

    These look amazing… and not coming to Australia 😢

  • @solidsnake2030
    @solidsnake2030 Місяць тому +2

    Definitely want this beast to replace my RAV4. The only concern I have is the size of the engine.

  • @JDS-Dalton
    @JDS-Dalton Місяць тому

    I have a highly modified subaru forester wilderness, but I'm thinking a few years down the road, I'll be going for that trailhunter when it's time to get a new vehicle!

  • @fadelibrahim7663
    @fadelibrahim7663 Місяць тому +8

    ill buy it in 2032 from copart

  • @yamahschector
    @yamahschector Місяць тому

    Love the trail hunter Everest color

  • @Maarij_Nomani_
    @Maarij_Nomani_ Місяць тому

    Simple & Reliable!

  • @rssr2007
    @rssr2007 Місяць тому

    Looks rugged. Love it , remind me of my Otter-box

  • @Guwapo77
    @Guwapo77 Місяць тому

    My 2004 sports edition is begging to be replaced. I wanted the TRD Pro, but I can’t do camo seats. So I’ll have to go with the Trailhunter (as long as it’s not over $65K). Anything more, I’ll have to get the GX550 Overland+ when the hybrids launch.

  • @justinwilliams2919
    @justinwilliams2919 Місяць тому

    I like the updates and the colors. I really think the taillights and rear looks silly though.

  • @timfitzgerald109
    @timfitzgerald109 Місяць тому

    TRD Trailhunter Hybrid in that exact same spec for me please as I absolutely love what they have done.