??? Don't you mean "Like you two were there for me back then?" Honestly, these parents are just the worst, and seeing how petty they are. Yeah, absolute garbage.
ive met the flip side. They were both child free, she ended up changing her mind, he didn't, so they had a kid and he delt with it for her sake. They are still together, and he loves his kid, now grown, but said he wouldn't have done it if it were just up to him.
@@RandoWisLuL Similar thing happened with my SO and I ended up as a father. Sadly It took me at least 3 years to adapt to fatherhood. I was emotionally unavailable for 3 years because I never wanted a child but I respected my SO's decision but adapting took time. The little one is happy with me now though, I'm his best friend and we even play minecraft together, he's 7 now. I even asked if he'd be happier if a richer and kinder person offered to be his dad and would play with him all day every day, if he'd take it, he said "NO! because you're my father and my best friend". Made my heart melt, though it won't bring those 3 lost years back, could've been a better father than I was.
@@daemiax Hey! Don't feel bad for the "lost" years, you were not ready yet. Feel good and proud of the fact that you're the father and friend of a cute 7 toddler
I’d always say if someone wants kids and you don’t don’t assume you’re gonna change their mind, that was also OPs fault on that part, not that he should cheated
Do the parents even like their kids? They seem like the kind of people who get a call from a man who is holding one of their children for ransom but won't do anything about it even if they have the resources.
I think not because all op said in the video of her parents doing nothing to help her brother and sister with their kids I think her parents only think about themselves and I glad all three of their kids left them behind The sister and her ex still sucks in my opinion
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They sound like those couples that were pressured to have kids, and when they did, they resented the kids for it. They went through the motions until the kids grew up and now that they're no longer obligated to do anything for their children, the parents always come up with convenient excuses to avoid it.
It's not your fault it's your husband's fault because he cheated on you with your sister and made him take care of his son and that's not right and they should pay for their actions and go to hell for what they have done because one that is not my kid and two he the one that cheated on him.
If anything, might as well ask parent to the babysitting for the child. Because they don't see a problem in justifying sister cheating on OP's ex-husband. That's said, they're fine it, they can take care of it. Scratch the parents. Ngl, their pettiness makes Mr. Crabs sounds more humane in terms of generosity.
@@anthony.morales6917 Mr. Crabs still willing to give spongebob a break and even helped him to regain his skill, though of course, that's because he needs him back evebtually. But there's that point of knowing he'll help him back. The parents? They have three kids, with two of them already working, and one married with a working spouse. If either one of them are unemployed, yeah, I can understand why they'll rather looked after themselves, but still they didn't, and using we need to save up for our retirement. That's petty, and OP too also said something like this happened in the past as well between them and her brother.
The fact that they refuse to simply leave their expensive neighborhood for a cheaper one is the exact reason that I would have zero sympathy for them. That extra money would probably pay for the daycare and more.
I mean…towards the end Op kinda shifts all the blame onto her parents…ignoring the fact that her sister slept with her husband, had no remorse about it and was actually happy she knew. Her parents are hypocritical assholes but her sister and Ex are FARR worse
Both the OP and ex had different goals in life, but the ex instead of being an adult and not getting married or a divorce, decides to cheat. Dude wanted the lifestyle the OP could provide. The gall of the two telling the OP to stay out of their business, it is her business when they're cheating. Caleb calling the OP; I would've just said "It's none of my business..." and the parents insisting on the OP helping, they are going to get cut out too. They're too old to help out, but keep egging on the OP. That's rich coming from them.
True. "Your kid, not mine. Your problem, deal with it." And for the parent, "you know you guys were literally the pettiest people I know about, so bye. She's your daughter, you two chose her. Help her, or leave it. Not my problem."
The ex husband can take care of his own child, he's two for heaven's sake!!!! It's not that hard to do. He just doesn't want to be a father. I know a lot of women who took care of ill husbands and multiple children all at once. Creating problems out of thin air 😂😂😂
By the way you talk, it seems that you don't know that the younger the kid the harder it is to take care of them. Older kids are easier to take care of. And even if it's true that some mothers did it, all situations are different and there are multiple factors your nor considering. To name two: work hours, age of the kid and area of living. If the child is old enough to go to school, than things are way easier than having a small child you don't know where to leave
@@Maria-wi1pj lol I raised my two nephews since I was 10 (the other nephew was a new born), I raised my own kid since 16, yes as a new born it was hard, even at 3 years old. I had my mother helping me out but after school through the night I was alone for that. You get used to it, you ask for advice on how to do it. Some days it's hard, some days it's very easy and some days you just wish to pack your bags and disappear but you don't bcs your child needs you. The OP doesn't want to deal with his child. He can give excuses as much as he wants to but the fact remains he doesn't want to be a father
@@prynkya how do other working parents take care of their children when they have a job?? They hire a nanny or take the child to a day care. More excuses here 😕
Poor op, she had clear boundaries, and knew what she wanted. Her feelings about everything are valid. She did everything perfectly. I hope nothing but the best for her
Family : "So you need to help your brother even if he almost ruined your life because we are familyyyyy!!!" OP : "No, help them yourself, you are his family too." Family : "No, I don't want to! You are selfish I am cutting you off!" Classic, I always love when I read stories with this gem of a bad manipulation tactic.
I’m shocked they wouldn’t think OP would consider harming their child (intentionally or not) while in her care just because of the whole situation, like you seriously think it’s a good idea to have her care for the child that came out of her sisters’ and ex husbands affair? She’s the last person on Earth that should be watching the kid, especially alone.
Not everyone would be that heartless. Kid isn't at fault. It's why I hate anyone that mistreats Affair Children. Yeah I understand not wanting to be around the kid as they are a living reminder, but mistreating them makes you worse than the cheater.
@@Olimar92 especially since better revenge methods exist with the child, like treating them as good if not better than their actual parents, so that you can reveal how shitty their parents are later on in their lives, hopefully causing them to hate their parents guts because unlike them, they're a respectable human being. Just saying, treating them worse validates the parents affair, but treating the kids better will invalidate it, and make them look even worse than they are.
What really blows my mind is that the sister didn't even seem to think anything was wrong with what she did. No embarrassment, no apology (not even a fake one), nothing. To me, that would make the whole situation even more painful.
OP's parent are extremely petty. Like, seriously? If the kid that were asking them money were jobless then yeah, they can have that doubt. But, two of them were working, one is married and have a partner with job. And still, they're refusing to give money, under we need to save up for retirement. Oh wow, the pettiness makes Mr. Crab sounds humane in terms of giving paychecks.
@@pradeepdungdung4379 well, that's the point. The pettiest fictional character (probably next to that duck billionaire guy) is lot more more generous compared to them.
"Keeping it in the family" HOW was she Not EMBARRASSED saying that bs with a straight face?? Unfortunate what happened to them, surely they see how burning bridges the way that they did has comeback to bite them. But asking the person you betrayed and burned the most for help is beyond audacious.
The parents are hypocrites. They refuse to admit they want nothing to do with OP's sister and instead dump the responsibility on OP just because they can't say no and use excuses to cover it up, like a dog kicking dirt to cover their crap.
See, this is the kind of shit that pisses me off about parents. They feel like just because they are family, once enough time passes all things should be forgiven. Like, no. If it had been some stranger who'd shagged her husband, they'd say to turn him down. But because it was their other daughter who did so, they're like 'you should forgive and forget.' If THEY want to forgive her, that's fine. But don't guilt trip her into forgiving when she was the victim here, and now she wants nothing to do with the people who gave her issues she's STILL recovering from.
I would have said, I dont have a sister and hung up. I would be incredibly mad at my parents for guilting me to help. They can help if they want to. That child is not my problem.
If someone say they don’t want kids in the future then u should never get in relationship with them thinking they will change their mind in the future. Op was career oriented and made it clear to him from the get go. He had the choice he could’ve just left her instead of marrying her and then cheating on her if he really wanted kids that much. Seems to me that the ex was a gold digger who wanted the lifestyle that op provided while also disrespecting her wishes and ultimately cheating on her. Also the op is such a doormat for listening them out and indirectly trying to help them, she could have had a good revenge if she wanted
Why don’t parents help them. Since they think you should forgive them. It really kills me when people asks you to help out, but then they did not want to step up themselves.
Me: why did he marry op if he was that into the Alyssa? Op: "I make more money than Caleb and was supporting us financially over the years-" THERE IT IS. Using the wife to live a comfy lifestyle while getting to enjoy a girlfriend on the side when she was too busy with work. He sounds stupid. He shouldn't have married op just based on the hope she'd change her mind about kids. I'll also never understand why people think a child makes it okay to brush bad history under the rug. Alyssa never even apologized. Neither did Caleb. They don't have any rights to ask op, the betrayed ex-spouse, to look after the product of their relationship. "It's none of my business, remember?" Is the only appropriate non-aggressive response here. Op's parents are stupid too. If they want nothing to do with Alyssa's child they should just say so. I was honestly expecting caleb to beg op to take him back or cheat once he got fed up of having to work so hard, remembering how easy life was when he had op supporting him and was childfree.
This thing about siblings knowingly and willingly screwing their sibling's partners is ... just ... wrong😡. Why do they do these things? If that happened to me I would NEVER forgive anyone involved.
I do not understand why the OPs have second thoughts like to put it into perspective: "AITA for suing my psycho ex for killing both of my pets and kidnapping our children?" Like it is just so blatantly idiotic and I feel like these stories just highlight how much of a pushovers these OPs are and do not have a spine at all then later in the update they go like: "Update 1, hey! After MUCH consideration I have came to the conclusion to sue my psycho ex....yadda yadda yadda", like what the absolute fu-?! Like no shit Sherlock!! Ummm hello braincells? Any braincells in your head? I am yet to see a story where they do the right thing RIGHT AWAY without asking questions with obvious answers.😂
Yeahh ur right but only the person who is going through can understand the heat of the situation, and how much helpless knowing even that u can have help feels. Its not easy to speak up its not easy to cut off people, its not easy to sue people. Its hard. So as much as its easy for us being the 3rd perspective, its not the same for them.
I understand the parents with tghe saving retirement. If you don't think your kids are going to take care of you in your old age, you have to save for your retirement.
It doesn't make sense when the husband cheated and said that "it's not her business" but when he and Alyssa needed help and she said it's not her business, they get offended like how does that make any sense. And look at the husband. BEGGING for a child and look at how much he's struggling or in debt he his. Like what were you thinking? And knowing he needs to drive hours to get to work and him living somewhere expensive WITH A CHILD just made me lose brain cells
Parents: *Cuts off their cheating daughter* Also parents: *Cuts off their daughter for not supporting cheating daughter in time of 'need'* Seriously, that cheating couple should've economically just done some cuts to help them accomodate. No need to live in such pricey areas.
Most of these stories (real or not) seem to boil down to two people who don't communicate with each other enough before they get married or have children.
The parents being mad at her for not dropping everything and helping out in Pennsylvania, while they have the moeny to easily help the situation a lot more with q pot less effort, is absolutely insane.
Say no you won't watch their child in writing, then say you will watch the child in person, and then when you have the kid. Take them to CPS and claim they abandoned their child with you, after you told them you didn't want to watch the kid and show the written documentation stating that. Perfect revenge to get their kid taken away.
16:27 The answer it's EASY, they did that because they think you guys would do what they would do if the position reversed. They made themselves the standard.
Get over it! Get over the worst betrayal imaginable! That has to beat the worst, most disgusting insult someone can say to another human being who has gone through something so cruel.
When the parents are actually old and grey, I bet you anything they will be reaching out, asking their kids for help and expecting it because "they're so old now". Nah, I hope they tell them, "Sorry mom and dad, I would love to help, but I have to think and save for my future, just like you taught us to."
Ahhh yes let's ask the person that has explicitly stated that she doesn't want kids to take care of someone else kids. Already baffling if u don't take the situation into account
My favorite sentence to parents who say they can’t contribute money, but really they can: “Do you realize you’re becoming more valuable to me dead than alive?” It can be said like a threat, but it can also be said and understood as disappointment with the right intonation because while most people like getting money, also most people would trade their inheritance for the life of their parents without a second thought.
Crazy how she has to take care of the kid even tho the father is still capable and fine, is not the father trying to get rid of the baby, is her being childish, i would just block the parents and keep living, crazy expectations to throw at your daughter
Based on all of their hiccups, OP and her husband should never got married. They wanted different things, BUT this does NOT excuse cheating, especially with the sister.
who just brushes off a difference of opinion on having kids... thats not a little thing.. thats a fundemental difference in goals.. and a verry incompatible one. absolutly dont want to be draging a relationship out with that
Reminds me of sth I read, "them:you hold grudges for a long time. Me: because the passing of time doesn't qualify as an apology 😏" the gall they both had to even think about asking you😤
Parent's probably never cut the sister off at all, they probably just kept in contact while making sure the other two children were kept out of the loop. It also sounds like the parents are afraid of confrontation and responsibility and worst of all, self-righteously self-centered the worst of all combinations to be stuck dealing with as another person and especially as an adult child of said people.
Stuff like this is one of the many reasons why you don't do that to family or friends. You burn that bridge so bad that it's very hard, if not impossible, to go back
Shining example of why its never good to estrange close family over significant others. Family emergency happens and no one you trusted to be there is ..not anymore
Question for op, I know you said brother is helping by giving money. But how? Is it direct money to the daycare or to them? If it's to them how does he know if 1. The whole need money story is true? Are they real useing the money for help or luxury? Why not get temporary custody of nephew( and while in his custody, you get to know him) until they can prove to him that they can care for him?
I absolutely understand wanting to aid with the nephew. So what you do, if you end up deciding to help, is have a lawyer draft up a binding agreement that details the amount lended, the timeline for payng back as well as acceptable options for to go about that(method of payment, incremental minimums, etc). You tage on specifics of compensation should their end of the bargain not be agreed to as well as reasonable grounds for termination of contract should you for whatever SPECIFIC reason detailed in the document you give. This is to at least approach it in good faith by accepting your own accountability, but make no mistake its about their accountability. If they want your help or need your help, they will sign it. If they make a stink about it, then you reiterate that they have given you no reasonable grounds to believe you could trust them at their word. In short, you powerplay the hell out of it. And if you want to be really petty, you tack on interest of loan to a reasonable amount after a certain period of reasonable expectation of repayment. Of they drag their feet, you can sue, or you can sell off the debt to a collection agency that will forever hound them for their debt. Just dont loan more than you are willing toose and kts definitely the long con... but it can work. Also check in on your nephew. His parents are garbage and there is a good chance that if he grows up aware of you he will be generally more emoathetic. Thats bot a sure case, but you can usually tell how the morals of a child will be molded by adolescence. There is always room to change that, but at that point, you get to decide if you want to stay kn that train or get off
I love that the parents are going to look at Alyssa and want to see the grandchild, and I guarantee that the response will be "No. You see, it's really expensive and we're nine hours away from you, and we have to save up the money in case something happens." "We'll pay to get you here!" "Oh, I couldn't ask that - after all, you were bad enough off that you couldn't help me out after I ALMOST DIED IN A CAR ACCIDENT." All their kids are going NC with them, and they just won't understand why ...
Some people's audacity is incredible... it's like: "I tortured you, I unalived your kids and pets... but... HOLD UP! YOU CAN'T BE MAD! WE'RE FAMILY!" "It's been years since I tortured you and unalived your kids... YOU'RE STILL MAD? WHY CAN'T YOU JUST GET OVER IT? WE ARE FAMILY!" Like the audacity to play the family card after you betrayed your sibling in one of the worst possible ways. I think if I just have 10% of their shamelessness, I'll be successful in life.
The cheating and betrayal was bad enough, but the pure contempt of telling her it wasn’t even her “business”… wow. It wouldn’t matter if it had been 3 years or 30. I’d never forgive something like that.
I agree with everything but I don’t not taking care of the kid she shouldn’t have brought the kid into her grudge against them if my brother had a child with my wife and my brother got injured I would absolutely help that kid and even let him live with me as long as he wanted cause I child is a child I’m 16 and I’m less petty than this lady and I’m truly disgusted that y’all agree with her being petty my brother was cheated on and even he would take care of that’s girls baby if she couldnt
Nobody else can or wants to take care of OPs sister and baby, but for some reason, OP is the bad guy despite having the most valid reasons to not want to pack her stuff up, take time off work and take care of her trifling sister and her fair baby who also happens to be her trifling ex husband's baby.
There's kindness, and then there's being a pushover that was their karma they would've been fine if they moved somewhere cheaper that was ridiculous. I would've mind my own business and kept my brother on my side and let them fend for themselves
The brazen attitude of Caleb and her sister. Then after creating a child and encountering difficulties they now call her and make it her business and guilt trip
Parents raised a daughter that cheated, claim they're too old to do it again... Then have the moal high ground?!? How is it a koss they are cutting contact?!?
10:30 "They think I should be there for her"
Like she was there for you when she was balls deep with your husband?
???
Don't you mean "Like you two were there for me back then?"
Honestly, these parents are just the worst, and seeing how petty they are. Yeah, absolute garbage.
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If someone says they’re child free, never ever go into the relationship assuming they’ll change their mind. Everybody ends up unhappy
ive met the flip side. They were both child free, she ended up changing her mind, he didn't, so they had a kid and he delt with it for her sake. They are still together, and he loves his kid, now grown, but said he wouldn't have done it if it were just up to him.
@@RandoWisLuL Similar thing happened with my SO and I ended up as a father.
Sadly It took me at least 3 years to adapt to fatherhood.
I was emotionally unavailable for 3 years because I never wanted a child but I respected my SO's decision but adapting took time.
The little one is happy with me now though, I'm his best friend and we even play minecraft together, he's 7 now.
I even asked if he'd be happier if a richer and kinder person offered to be his dad and would play with him all day every day, if he'd take it, he said "NO! because you're my father and my best friend".
Made my heart melt, though it won't bring those 3 lost years back, could've been a better father than I was.
She did not say that she was child free! She wasn't ready for a child emotionally at the time.
@@daemiax Hey! Don't feel bad for the "lost" years, you were not ready yet. Feel good and proud of the fact that you're the father and friend of a cute 7 toddler
I’d always say if someone wants kids and you don’t don’t assume you’re gonna change their mind, that was also OPs fault on that part, not that he should cheated
If he knew she didnt want kids, why marry her? Move on to someone who wants the same thing.
Exactly
He did that
@@RiskyFishnessnot in the morally right way
She never said she didn't want kids, she said that she wasn't emotionally or mentally stable for it at the time. It's VERY silly.
@@RiskyFishnessMove on with someone who isn't a part of your ex's family, it simple basic common sense.
Do the parents even like their kids? They seem like the kind of people who get a call from a man who is holding one of their children for ransom but won't do anything about it even if they have the resources.
I think not because all op said in the video of her parents doing nothing to help her brother and sister with their kids I think her parents only think about themselves and I glad all three of their kids left them behind
The sister and her ex still sucks in my opinion
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They sound like those couples that were pressured to have kids, and when they did, they resented the kids for it. They went through the motions until the kids grew up and now that they're no longer obligated to do anything for their children, the parents always come up with convenient excuses to avoid it.
Like lol, remember that the parents cut them off so they just do what they said
"stay out of our business" Im still really amazed at the audacity of some people. Like she is his wife, wtf??? They deserve all the bad karma fr
It's not your fault it's your husband's fault because he cheated on you with your sister and made him take care of his son and that's not right and they should pay for their actions and go to hell for what they have done because one that is not my kid and two he the one that cheated on him.
If anything, might as well ask parent to the babysitting for the child. Because they don't see a problem in justifying sister cheating on OP's ex-husband. That's said, they're fine it, they can take care of it.
Scratch the parents.
Ngl, their pettiness makes Mr. Crabs sounds more humane in terms of generosity.
@@areszeudion5153nah he still worse
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@@areszeudion5153 they did and the parents refused.
Edit: that comparison was crazy.
@@anthony.morales6917 Mr. Crabs still willing to give spongebob a break and even helped him to regain his skill, though of course, that's because he needs him back evebtually. But there's that point of knowing he'll help him back.
The parents? They have three kids, with two of them already working, and one married with a working spouse.
If either one of them are unemployed, yeah, I can understand why they'll rather looked after themselves, but still they didn't, and using we need to save up for our retirement. That's petty, and OP too also said something like this happened in the past as well between them and her brother.
The fact that they refuse to simply leave their expensive neighborhood for a cheaper one is the exact reason that I would have zero sympathy for them.
That extra money would probably pay for the daycare and more.
i dont think it's that "simple"
I mean…towards the end Op kinda shifts all the blame onto her parents…ignoring the fact that her sister slept with her husband, had no remorse about it and was actually happy she knew.
Her parents are hypocritical assholes but her sister and Ex are FARR worse
Both the OP and ex had different goals in life, but the ex instead of being an adult and not getting married or a divorce, decides to cheat. Dude wanted the lifestyle the OP could provide. The gall of the two telling the OP to stay out of their business, it is her business when they're cheating.
Caleb calling the OP; I would've just said "It's none of my business..." and the parents insisting on the OP helping, they are going to get cut out too. They're too old to help out, but keep egging on the OP. That's rich coming from them.
True.
"Your kid, not mine. Your problem, deal with it."
And for the parent, "you know you guys were literally the pettiest people I know about, so bye. She's your daughter, you two chose her. Help her, or leave it. Not my problem."
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@@areszeudion5153 just hit them with a "you told me to stay out of your business, stop trying to drag me into it." 😂
OP actually had the pleasure of telling Caleb that it wasn’t her business and hung up and blocked him
The ex husband can take care of his own child, he's two for heaven's sake!!!! It's not that hard to do. He just doesn't want to be a father. I know a lot of women who took care of ill husbands and multiple children all at once. Creating problems out of thin air 😂😂😂
By the way you talk, it seems that you don't know that the younger the kid the harder it is to take care of them. Older kids are easier to take care of. And even if it's true that some mothers did it, all situations are different and there are multiple factors your nor considering. To name two: work hours, age of the kid and area of living. If the child is old enough to go to school, than things are way easier than having a small child you don't know where to leave
@@Maria-wi1pj lol I raised my two nephews since I was 10 (the other nephew was a new born), I raised my own kid since 16, yes as a new born it was hard, even at 3 years old. I had my mother helping me out but after school through the night I was alone for that. You get used to it, you ask for advice on how to do it. Some days it's hard, some days it's very easy and some days you just wish to pack your bags and disappear but you don't bcs your child needs you. The OP doesn't want to deal with his child. He can give excuses as much as he wants to but the fact remains he doesn't want to be a father
This is what I thought. His response was very much, I don't want to be a parent response
He couldn't take care of the child. He had to work and the mom couldn't be left at home alone with the 2 year old.
@@prynkya how do other working parents take care of their children when they have a job?? They hire a nanny or take the child to a day care. More excuses here 😕
They'll find a way. They will get by. Like they said to you, none of your business.
Them to OP after being caught cheating: that’s none of your business
OP to them asking for help: that’s none of my business remember?
Narcissist husband and sister
And parents
@@Yointrovert every parent has a soft spot for their kids
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Poor op, she had clear boundaries, and knew what she wanted. Her feelings about everything are valid. She did everything perfectly. I hope nothing but the best for her
Many people go into relationships thinking the other will change their mind and are shocked when they don't
Family : "So you need to help your brother even if he almost ruined your life because we are familyyyyy!!!"
OP : "No, help them yourself, you are his family too."
Family : "No, I don't want to! You are selfish I am cutting you off!"
Classic, I always love when I read stories with this gem of a bad manipulation tactic.
Its her sister that was in the accident
I’m shocked they wouldn’t think OP would consider harming their child (intentionally or not) while in her care just because of the whole situation, like you seriously think it’s a good idea to have her care for the child that came out of her sisters’ and ex husbands affair? She’s the last person on Earth that should be watching the kid, especially alone.
They're just delusional and don't care about the kid.
Not everyone would be that heartless. Kid isn't at fault. It's why I hate anyone that mistreats Affair Children. Yeah I understand not wanting to be around the kid as they are a living reminder, but mistreating them makes you worse than the cheater.
@@Olimar92IF THEY GO LOW I GO LOWER 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯💯💯
Because they know op is good at heart it clearly shows
@@Olimar92 especially since better revenge methods exist with the child, like treating them as good if not better than their actual parents, so that you can reveal how shitty their parents are later on in their lives, hopefully causing them to hate their parents guts because unlike them, they're a respectable human being. Just saying, treating them worse validates the parents affair, but treating the kids better will invalidate it, and make them look even worse than they are.
What really blows my mind is that the sister didn't even seem to think anything was wrong with what she did. No embarrassment, no apology (not even a fake one), nothing. To me, that would make the whole situation even more painful.
OP's parent are extremely petty.
Like, seriously? If the kid that were asking them money were jobless then yeah, they can have that doubt. But, two of them were working, one is married and have a partner with job. And still, they're refusing to give money, under we need to save up for retirement.
Oh wow, the pettiness makes Mr. Crab sounds humane in terms of giving paychecks.
don't disrespect Mr Krabs he may be money hungry but he'll go above and beyond for his daughter
@@pradeepdungdung4379 well, that's the point. The pettiest fictional character (probably next to that duck billionaire guy) is lot more more generous compared to them.
Exactly! They could have them pay them back later if it meant that much to them.
"Keeping it in the family" HOW was she Not EMBARRASSED saying that bs with a straight face??
Unfortunate what happened to them, surely they see how burning bridges the way that they did has comeback to bite them. But asking the person you betrayed and burned the most for help is beyond audacious.
The parents are hypocrites. They refuse to admit they want nothing to do with OP's sister and instead dump the responsibility on OP just because they can't say no and use excuses to cover it up, like a dog kicking dirt to cover their crap.
Honestly if I were the parents I wouldn’t want anything to do with OP’s sister either.
So he can't look after the child because he has to work. As opposed to the OP who.... has to work? I'm a little confused
See, this is the kind of shit that pisses me off about parents. They feel like just because they are family, once enough time passes all things should be forgiven. Like, no. If it had been some stranger who'd shagged her husband, they'd say to turn him down. But because it was their other daughter who did so, they're like 'you should forgive and forget.' If THEY want to forgive her, that's fine. But don't guilt trip her into forgiving when she was the victim here, and now she wants nothing to do with the people who gave her issues she's STILL recovering from.
Ofc the flying monkeys defend the w--re of a sister.
They always do when no one is asking them for anything. If they were asked to care for the child they’d be offended/disgusted
She’s nicer than me… I would have laughed and said looks like karma
I would have said, I dont have a sister and hung up. I would be incredibly mad at my parents for guilting me to help. They can help if they want to. That child is not my problem.
"I won't get into it much", proceeds to tell the whole story 🤣
How is it OP's responsibility to help out? The nerve. If the parents are getting upset, let them go over there and take care of them themselves.
OP should just pull an rSlash and yell at everyone telling her to take care of her nephew: "THEN YOU DO IT!!!"
If someone say they don’t want kids in the future then u should never get in relationship with them thinking they will change their mind in the future. Op was career oriented and made it clear to him from the get go. He had the choice he could’ve just left her instead of marrying her and then cheating on her if he really wanted kids that much.
Seems to me that the ex was a gold digger who wanted the lifestyle that op provided while also disrespecting her wishes and ultimately cheating on her.
Also the op is such a doormat for listening them out and indirectly trying to help them, she could have had a good revenge if she wanted
Why don’t parents help them. Since they think you should forgive them. It really kills me when people asks you to help out, but then they did not want to step up themselves.
Me: why did he marry op if he was that into the Alyssa?
Op: "I make more money than Caleb and was supporting us financially over the years-"
THERE IT IS. Using the wife to live a comfy lifestyle while getting to enjoy a girlfriend on the side when she was too busy with work. He sounds stupid. He shouldn't have married op just based on the hope she'd change her mind about kids. I'll also never understand why people think a child makes it okay to brush bad history under the rug. Alyssa never even apologized. Neither did Caleb. They don't have any rights to ask op, the betrayed ex-spouse, to look after the product of their relationship. "It's none of my business, remember?" Is the only appropriate non-aggressive response here.
Op's parents are stupid too. If they want nothing to do with Alyssa's child they should just say so. I was honestly expecting caleb to beg op to take him back or cheat once he got fed up of having to work so hard, remembering how easy life was when he had op supporting him and was childfree.
Well said 👏👍🙄
This thing about siblings knowingly and willingly screwing their sibling's partners is ... just ... wrong😡. Why do they do these things? If that happened to me I would NEVER forgive anyone involved.
“Since we were closer in age than with Chris”
36 - 32 = 4
40 - 36 = 4
Sure
what did you expect from "trust me bro" stories from reddit?
Investmentbanker who can't do basic math 😅
Chris became Eric halfway through the story.
The way I picked my jaw up off the floor
That’s some audacity to expect childcare from the wronged party.
The audacity of the other woman to tell the legal wife to stay out of their business
I do not understand why the OPs have second thoughts like to put it into perspective: "AITA for suing my psycho ex for killing both of my pets and kidnapping our children?"
Like it is just so blatantly idiotic and I feel like these stories just highlight how much of a pushovers these OPs are and do not have a spine at all then later in the update they go like: "Update 1, hey! After MUCH consideration I have came to the conclusion to sue my psycho ex....yadda yadda yadda", like what the absolute fu-?! Like no shit Sherlock!! Ummm hello braincells? Any braincells in your head? I am yet to see a story where they do the right thing RIGHT AWAY without asking questions with obvious answers.😂
Yeahh ur right but only the person who is going through can understand the heat of the situation, and how much helpless knowing even that u can have help feels. Its not easy to speak up its not easy to cut off people, its not easy to sue people. Its hard. So as much as its easy for us being the 3rd perspective, its not the same for them.
@@itsmeritz4864 true. Hard to see through the disguise if the person themselves are in denial and helplessly wants it all to be a bad dream.
I understand the parents with tghe saving retirement. If you don't think your kids are going to take care of you in your old age, you have to save for your retirement.
,,Problem not my problem
That's just not my problem
Problem
Not my problem
That's that's just not my problem"
I already got my revenge?! By them living happily and you losing your family, yea makes so much sense
Parents: We can't help.
Op: No
Parents: How dare you not help your ex, the man you thought you'd grow old with and cheated on you with your sister
Imagine the scene where the kid ask his parents how they met the first time😂
2 minutes in and we're still not to the beginning of the actual story. AI loves the character building and backstory.
OP missed the part where their parents had no problem watching the affair child.
I mean it's their grandkid so it's understandable
It doesn't make sense when the husband cheated and said that "it's not her business" but when he and Alyssa needed help and she said it's not her business, they get offended like how does that make any sense. And look at the husband. BEGGING for a child and look at how much he's struggling or in debt he his. Like what were you thinking? And knowing he needs to drive hours to get to work and him living somewhere expensive WITH A CHILD just made me lose brain cells
Parents: *Cuts off their cheating daughter*
Also parents: *Cuts off their daughter for not supporting cheating daughter in time of 'need'*
Seriously, that cheating couple should've economically just done some cuts to help them accomodate. No need to live in such pricey areas.
Most of these stories (real or not) seem to boil down to two people who don't communicate with each other enough before they get married or have children.
That's a majority of these stories, and some of them are about shit people.
The parents being mad at her for not dropping everything and helping out in Pennsylvania, while they have the moeny to easily help the situation a lot more with q pot less effort, is absolutely insane.
Guilt tripping you so they don't have to take care of their own daughter and grandchild how sad and twisted of them.
Can we all just agree eric is a W brother
This one is a doormat.
Not rlly.she just isnt as wicked as most of you
@@Thewonder3r nah she’s a complete doormat.
Say no you won't watch their child in writing, then say you will watch the child in person, and then when you have the kid. Take them to CPS and claim they abandoned their child with you, after you told them you didn't want to watch the kid and show the written documentation stating that. Perfect revenge to get their kid taken away.
Hello there, Satan!
This is some villainous shit right here! 😂😂
Satan: yo man I'm like your biggest fan
Whoa there Satan, calm down lmao
Now that would be perfection 👌
16:27 The answer it's EASY, they did that because they think you guys would do what they would do if the position reversed. They made themselves the standard.
Get over it! Get over the worst betrayal imaginable! That has to beat the worst, most disgusting insult someone can say to another human being who has gone through something so cruel.
When the parents are actually old and grey, I bet you anything they will be reaching out, asking their kids for help and expecting it because "they're so old now". Nah, I hope they tell them, "Sorry mom and dad, I would love to help, but I have to think and save for my future, just like you taught us to."
Ahhh yes let's ask the person that has explicitly stated that she doesn't want kids to take care of someone else kids. Already baffling if u don't take the situation into account
Nah, screw them both. Neither their troubles, nor their child is a problem of either OP or her brother.
My favorite sentence to parents who say they can’t contribute money, but really they can: “Do you realize you’re becoming more valuable to me dead than alive?” It can be said like a threat, but it can also be said and understood as disappointment with the right intonation because while most people like getting money, also most people would trade their inheritance for the life of their parents without a second thought.
Bruh if I heard the convo I would smiling 😂
Crazy how she has to take care of the kid even tho the father is still capable and fine, is not the father trying to get rid of the baby, is her being childish, i would just block the parents and keep living, crazy expectations to throw at your daughter
Based on all of their hiccups, OP and her husband should never got married. They wanted different things, BUT this does NOT excuse cheating, especially with the sister.
who just brushes off a difference of opinion on having kids... thats not a little thing.. thats a fundemental difference in goals.. and a verry incompatible one. absolutly dont want to be draging a relationship out with that
Chris changed to Eric lol
I just farted, but it's none of OP's business
What?💀
The "not my buisness" line lmaooo. She got him good 💀💀. Serves them right for cheating
"Not my problem, that's just not my problem" 😮
Lol it's called karma. When you do onto others you'll get it back 2 fold
If the parents cared "SO" much, why didn't they agree to watch their grandson? Nahhh sis, YOU ARE NOT THE GRASSHOLE.
Reminds me of sth I read, "them:you hold grudges for a long time. Me: because the passing of time doesn't qualify as an apology 😏" the gall they both had to even think about asking you😤
@6:12 she was taking a bath?
I mean… you did stay out of their business…
Yea Alyssa is f-ked. Is he cheats once he’ll cheat again and this time they have a kid 🤷♀️ good luck to her ig
Aint no way she said "its not my business" this woman is savage
1- more respect
But dang bro that flashback
Parent's probably never cut the sister off at all, they probably just kept in contact while making sure the other two children were kept out of the loop. It also sounds like the parents are afraid of confrontation and responsibility and worst of all, self-righteously self-centered the worst of all combinations to be stuck dealing with as another person and especially as an adult child of said people.
It's none of her business? NONE OF HER BUSINESS JFC HAHAHAHHAHAHAAHHAHAHA that answer is so dumb that I had to pause and laugh WTF HAHAHAHAAHHAHA
The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb
Stuff like this is one of the many reasons why you don't do that to family or friends. You burn that bridge so bad that it's very hard, if not impossible, to go back
Used and abused "we are family" card
This is why you don't burn bridges
Shining example of why its never good to estrange close family over significant others. Family emergency happens and no one you trusted to be there is ..not anymore
Definitely sounds like a case of “it’s a you problem” that they don’t have childcare
Question for op, I know you said brother is helping by giving money. But how? Is it direct money to the daycare or to them? If it's to them how does he know if 1. The whole need money story is true? Are they real useing the money for help or luxury? Why not get temporary custody of nephew( and while in his custody, you get to know him) until they can prove to him that they can care for him?
I absolutely understand wanting to aid with the nephew. So what you do, if you end up deciding to help, is have a lawyer draft up a binding agreement that details the amount lended, the timeline for payng back as well as acceptable options for to go about that(method of payment, incremental minimums, etc). You tage on specifics of compensation should their end of the bargain not be agreed to as well as reasonable grounds for termination of contract should you for whatever SPECIFIC reason detailed in the document you give. This is to at least approach it in good faith by accepting your own accountability, but make no mistake its about their accountability. If they want your help or need your help, they will sign it. If they make a stink about it, then you reiterate that they have given you no reasonable grounds to believe you could trust them at their word.
In short, you powerplay the hell out of it. And if you want to be really petty, you tack on interest of loan to a reasonable amount after a certain period of reasonable expectation of repayment. Of they drag their feet, you can sue, or you can sell off the debt to a collection agency that will forever hound them for their debt. Just dont loan more than you are willing toose and kts definitely the long con... but it can work.
Also check in on your nephew. His parents are garbage and there is a good chance that if he grows up aware of you he will be generally more emoathetic. Thats bot a sure case, but you can usually tell how the morals of a child will be molded by adolescence. There is always room to change that, but at that point, you get to decide if you want to stay kn that train or get off
I love that the parents are going to look at Alyssa and want to see the grandchild, and I guarantee that the response will be "No. You see, it's really expensive and we're nine hours away from you, and we have to save up the money in case something happens." "We'll pay to get you here!" "Oh, I couldn't ask that - after all, you were bad enough off that you couldn't help me out after I ALMOST DIED IN A CAR ACCIDENT." All their kids are going NC with them, and they just won't understand why ...
3:20 Oh that's because he doesn't respect you enough to treat your opions as an equal
Some people's audacity is incredible... it's like:
"I tortured you, I unalived your kids and pets... but... HOLD UP! YOU CAN'T BE MAD! WE'RE FAMILY!"
"It's been years since I tortured you and unalived your kids... YOU'RE STILL MAD? WHY CAN'T YOU JUST GET OVER IT? WE ARE FAMILY!"
Like the audacity to play the family card after you betrayed your sibling in one of the worst possible ways. I think if I just have 10% of their shamelessness, I'll be successful in life.
Nice she got out of babysitting and supporting their parents on the "golden years" in a single move. Cealing shatering Stonk gains.
You don't get to tell someone when to get over betrayal
Your sister and your ex told you to stay out of their business. You’re just doing as you’re told.
The cheating and betrayal was bad enough, but the pure contempt of telling her it wasn’t even her “business”… wow. It wouldn’t matter if it had been 3 years or 30. I’d never forgive something like that.
OP should have told them she is staying out of their business as requested.
I agree with everything but I don’t not taking care of the kid she shouldn’t have brought the kid into her grudge against them if my brother had a child with my wife and my brother got injured I would absolutely help that kid and even let him live with me as long as he wanted cause I child is a child I’m 16 and I’m less petty than this lady and I’m truly disgusted that y’all agree with her being petty my brother was cheated on and even he would take care of that’s girls baby if she couldnt
Nobody else can or wants to take care of OPs sister and baby, but for some reason, OP is the bad guy despite having the most valid reasons to not want to pack her stuff up, take time off work and take care of her trifling sister and her fair baby who also happens to be her trifling ex husband's baby.
Those parents should be ashamed of them self they dont even care about your feelings enough
These parents sound awful. Yet they demand others not be selfish? What a bunch of bs.
There's kindness, and then there's being a pushover that was their karma they would've been fine if they moved somewhere cheaper that was ridiculous. I would've mind my own business and kept my brother on my side and let them fend for themselves
He is by no means correct but they should've ended it when she decided she didn't want kids and he did.
The brazen attitude of Caleb and her sister. Then after creating a child and encountering difficulties they now call her and make it her business and guilt trip
Parents raised a daughter that cheated, claim they're too old to do it again... Then have the moal high ground?!? How is it a koss they are cutting contact?!?
How about grandpa and grandma stfu if they are not going to help their grandchild either
I love it when karma hits. 😅😅😅😅