Gundam Endless Waltz: A Nearly Perfect Sequel
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- Опубліковано 17 сер 2020
- Where Wing fumbled, Endless Waltz thrives. It improves upon what the original series setup, and gives the After Colony Era a worthy conclusion.
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Endless Waltz also gave us a leo holding it's own against a gundam.
The Leo is a good suit! It only gets it's ass kicked because it gets put into the meat grinder when they are sent against the Gundams. If your bloodline has the Tallgesse in it, then you know you can smack assholes around and you won't fall apart if somebody sneezes on you. But because the Leo had to face the Gundams... Yeah.
wing gundam got shot down by a leo
Leos ans zakus are my 2 favorites in terms of mobile suits
Leo's in technicality arent bad MS within AC timeline. They just become cannon fodder once a gundam pilot shows up. Inversely if a Gundam pilot is in a Leo it gains durability.
@@RayFChung Yea, pretty much anytime any of the grunts are brought up, the Leo is far and away one of the best grunts you can use from a military perspective. From the entire series as a whole, its still one of the best you can take barring stuff like the GN-X. Its cheap, easy to produce, and most importantly: VERY flexible. Need beam weapons: can do it out of the box. Long range support? There is a pack for that. Heavy weapons? Sure! Need it to fly? It can do it. Go to space? No problem. Dakka? Need More!
Leos just get fodderized cause of the Gundams. When they are up against anything else, thing is stupid formidable.
Say what you want about endless waltz, it's still a damn good Christmas movie.
Hell ya.
@@alexrobinet7576yes.
Ironically, the Angel Wings wing binders make a shocking amount of sense. They arent shown off a ton in the anime, but the role of the wings, is essentially as a shield for reentry. It keeps wing zero from taking a ton of damage during reentry.
Always made me laugh that people complain about the angel wings but say nothing about the giant at wings on Deathscythe Hell
@@ridleysomeliana-lauer5814 mood
Cause they like gundam edgescythe
Each feather seems to also be an engine or director vane for thrust exhaust. Imagine the ridiculous maneuvers you can pull.
I love how Quatre’s arc in EW is “I sent the Gundams into the sun, let me go get them I guess.”
My favorite Christmas movie
Oddly enough, I look at it that way too, lol
A robot angel helps save world peace for New Years. I'd say that's a Christmas miracle.
I watch this movie every Christmas Eve. My buddies don't understand why.
@Ghassan Sleiman - Same.
Perfection
Endless Waltz isn't an alternative continuity, it's a direct sequel. Yes they redesigned the Gundams, but they're meant to be the same machines shown in the latter half of Wing.
Its technically in an alternative continuity of the Glory of the Loosers manga which has the EW designs that they made models of. Its not all that important though as im pretty sure that the story is basically the same which is why endless waltz isnt a confusing mess to the 90% of people who watched it and didnt read the manga.
@@creeperkiller1271 GotL came out in 2010, Endless Waltz came out in 1998. It's not technically anything! The redesign is just that, a redesign nothing more.
@@IrugaZERO Its a technicality because of the redesigns.
@@creeperkiller1271 the creators and mech designers even said they redesigned the suits just to do it. Its not an alternative anything... EW is a direct sequel
@creeperkiller1271
Endless Waltz literally shows the redesigned Gundams fighting in the final battle of Gundam Wing and the canon makes zero mention of it being an alternate continuity and has always explicitly states it is Wing’s sequel. How much more clear can they get?
"Evil Mineva"
Glad I am not the only one who saw the resemblence. 😄
I don't get it. Please explain
@@thepawchoe2749 The character of Mariemaia Khushrenada bares a striking resemblance to the another character from Gundam of Universal Century timeline (the original series, Zeta, Double Zeta, Char's Counterattack, Unicorn etc.) called *Mineva Lao Zabi*.
They are both alike in age, appearance and being princesses of the powerful organizations responsible for wars in their timelines. The difference between the two is that Mineva was too young too understand the political implications, but as she aged she took an active stance to right the wrongs her family committed, while Mariemaia went the opposite way.
That is why she was called "Evil Mineva". Hope this helps. ^_^
The evil mineva joke nearly killed me
@@TheOneZytel word
I love it. I didn't understand the joke before when I haven't seen Gundam Unicorn, but knowing who Mineva is, I really can't unsee Mariemeia and Mineva's resemblances
Gundam Wing's music is still great after all these years, a truly good piece of Nostalgia.
I know right... For me its one of the best..
@GTS: Great Teacher Scathach - Absolutely.
Haters gonna hate on them Angel wings. If there was 6 wing's total that would have been a nice touch for EW wing zero
you should check the GW Frozen Teardrop's Snow White Prelude
In the Endless Waltz manga, Deikun says he picked up Mariemaia from the street. But in the prequel manga, Episode Zero, an injured Treize meets his nurse, Mariemaia's mother. Just goes to show how contrived and overly coincidental Wing's stories really are. Really, the big reveals, the real story, was almost always reserved for the manga.
Gundam is a rare anime where it's anime first then manga where most anime are instead based on the manga. So the manga tries to flesh out what the anime overlooked due to time or other reasons.
Yeah, the issue I have with Wing's manga is that everyone knows or is related to everyone else, like Trant Clark all of a sudden magically being Heero's uncle, or making Catherine Bloom into Trowa's long-lost sister. It just gets super forced and ultra convenient. We see similar laziness in Frozen Teardrop, where all the main characters are basically mini versions of the old cast members instead of being fleshed out as their own characters (though Quatre's stand-in is a girl, "Quaterine,". Even the name shows how little effort was put into coming up with new characters!).
My take on Mariemaia was that she was the baby that OG Trowa shows No-Name. As the baby was a Barton and the Barton's were the antagonists of EW. Dekim just lied to her, and manipulated her. The Trieze connection being a lie to make her more marketable.
@@jedimika That's how I originally understood it, too, but then the prequel manga tries to argue that the Barton who was her mother was Treize's nurse whom he fathered the child with, to force that connection, and in the EW manga, as MSGSlayer1 says, Dekim picked her from the street. So we have two different manga explanations, and a movie explanation that can go one of three ways depending on how contrived you want to make the story. Sadly, GotL goes with some pretty contrived and forced stuff where everyone is now everyone else's mother's father's sister's brother's dog's maid's roommate.
Didnt he say that when he was really angry. I think it was an exaggeration. Characters can lie..
Honestly I felt for Heero when he realizes too late that what he did at the base costed him the life of a girl that had nothing to do with things, had done nothing wrong to him, and just wanted to be a friend, her and her little puppy. Oh god the puppy!
When reading about heero, he’s interesting and more flawed as if I’m right, after the death of the girl the dude had to be retrained, and eventually all of that happened in wing happened. To be honest I prefer heero and Mika than say someone like say setsuna and Kira, Kira because just I didn’t like how he was able to just handle the strike that well, like he just goes in typing on the keyboard and all of that, and setsuna while good he wasn’t maybe like absurdly interesting to me as heero or enjoyable personality wise as Mika
@@santiagogarcia1606 I mean I can somewhat understand Kira being able to handle the Strike like he did, I mean he's a Coordinator and in the Seed universe, they're adapt when it comes to working with things. I mean we get for the first couple of episodes how touch-and-go it was for him to use the Strike cause he's a civilian thrusted into a combat situation after the OG pilot was killed. Mika kinda felt a little meh for me. Not saying he was a bad character, but to follow in Orga's shadow and not have some of his own development(I mean he got some, but I felt like they could of done more). I remember listening in on a review of the second season, the person comments how Mika just gives up on his dream to do what makes Orga happy.
@@MST545 me too, he’s a coordinator so be default he was going to be a better pilot than naturals so it makes sense but I just didn’t like that he pulled out a bloody keyboard and started typing in combat for weapons, that felt very bs to me and how he just knew how it mostly all worked, while yeah amuro was able to pilot the gundam decently, he had the manual with him and that he wasn’t piloting it as good as say Kira to me maybe
"The music just isn't as good as Wing the Series"
Last Impression: ...And I took that personally
Gundam Endless Waltz: Glory of the Defeated magna is the only way to enjoy Gundam Wings storytelling. It combines all of Frozen Teardrop the side story's etc. Highly recomend
Big no. I have read all of Glory of the Losers. All the backstory and side stuff they add in has the problems the OG wing series did, where it was a series of points with nothing connecting them narratively. This can be seen with Treize. He had a brother or cousin or something that was going to/did pilot the Tallgeese and somehow ended up dying, and Treize has blueprints for Epyon and Tallgeese III at the very beginning. We don't see anthing actually happen, it's never actually talked about in full, you just infer snippets.
What's worse, is that the events of Wing get the same treatment, but harsher to the point that you have to have seen the original series for the manga to make sense. Can't recall direct examples, but the manga sometimes jumps around to different points depicted in the series that are heavily abbreviated in the manga.
@@infinityfringe Here's an example: In the anime Heero self destructs and is taken by Trowa to the circus, both being around each other forces them to have some good development (we see Trowa laugh for Christ sakes). Heero goes on an emotional journey where he takes responsibility for the death of Marshal Noventa and tries to find redemption before fighting Zechs in Antarctica.
Here's how the manga does it; Heero self destructs, Trowa takes him to Antarctica (he's joined Oz for some reason?) & Heero and Zechs instantly fight.
Glory of the Losers is the cliff notes of Gundam Wing and they don't cover all the important stuff, just the fights. That's why people like it better, because they have more robot fights 😑
@@MakaiKishiZero A little bit of both.
Glory of Losers did some, and then, didn't.
Glory of Losers did tell us why Heero is the way it is by featuring his origins of getting all his parents killed and being left with nothing. For Wufei, as he fights for his wife and colony and why Shenlong is dear to him. The same goes for the other G Pilots.
This is what the TV series lacked as it didn't tell us what they fought for, or why they fought.
On the other hand, it refused to elaborate upon Vignt Khushrenada and past events that were crucial to them, and, readers required knowledge that were only told from side stories, yes.
I appreciate that you like Wing a great deal. It's still got a good place in my heart that I can't really share with other fans because of this bizarre hive stigma. I enjoy it a great deal, flaws and all.
I don't know how the English dub comes out but I can say in French Dub is quality and the serie is my introduction to Gundam, mine, and the one I recommend to anyone wanting to get in.
@@Nimi450 The English dub is hilarious but just bearable enough lol... It requires apologizing that it was in the infancy of dubbing but some of the actors are alright.
@@VengeanceMkII believe it or not for me, the AC alternate timeline is potentially my favorite alternate timeline with ibo at the same area or behind with 00 behind ibo, overall I adore wing and endless waltz, and glory of the losers is great, I only read 2 volumes but it’s incredibly good imo, with Wufei becoming an incredibly interesting character imo.
Wing is to this day the best a Gundam series did in exploring politics, that's why i like it so much. Also, the Mobile Suits and Gundams are really cool.
If you ever do decide to give Glory to The Losers a shot, you'll certainly love it
It's the reboot this series desperately needed
A politicians secret love child suddenly appearing out of the blue seems really realistic to me. Appreciate your content!
When you think about it, it's probably the most realistic thing in the story.
Triezes Daughter was in the Gundam Wing series, she was an un named child that appeared in one of the season 2 episodes right before Trieze died.
Which episode?
Tallgeese 3 is one of my favorite mobile suits of all time.
Glory of the losers is good it combines "episode zero" into the storyline and adds the Katoki redesigns of all 11 gundams
While I'm still not a fan of gundam wing for the most part, your analysis or review on it has made me appreciate the show a lot more than I initially did.
Endless waltz justifies Wings existence as a whole. It finally brings everything around and gives Wing finally some structure and point while also bringing it closer to what the originall Gundam series stood for.
It was impossible to fix everything, but EW really did the best it could with what came before it. And yeah, that movie solidfies my believe that Trowa is the real main-character of Wing even more.
@boofire Menava/Mari Maya is a child of the Barton family or at least a girl who looks like her. They state this in the film, she was just brainwashed into thinking she was Trey’s daughter
One of the things I really enjoy about the sequel is going to drive home the message that peace cannot be maintained through pacifism. Someone will always be there to take advantage of your peaceful stance through acts of violence and force. Like you said, someone will have to take a stand.
As the Latin adage says:
"Si vis pacem, para bellum" "If you want peace, prepare for war".
Wing deserves a remake like how Hellsing got Hellsing Ultimate.
I just finished Iron Blooded Orphans for the 2nd time and I feel like it's a perfect spiritual successor to wing in a lot of ways even if the plot and characters are a lot different the themes and scope feel very similar to me. I'd be interested on your take.
I actually felt like IBO was the complete "wing"...with the moral implications of children as weaponry and political tools. In other words they actually explore at least one theme in common. IBO seems to actually take the results of that seriously.
IBO Season 1 was fantastic. Season 2 on the other hand was a disappointment. If it weren't supposed to be a continuation of what came before, it'd be much better. However, as it stands it essentially reset most of the characters, or transformed them into seemingly different ones. A lot of the ideas it introduced could have worked, but were executed poorly with little respect for the characters.
Two big examples being Orga and McGillis. Was Biscuit's death so meaningless to Orga that a mere two years later he goes back to the same behavior as before, risking it all for a shot at something bigger? It worked in season 1 because Tekkadan had nothing and were fighting for their lives, and through their grit and sheer luck they pulled through. This time they had no such need and the stars weren't aligned in their favor. McGillis in season 1 was the guy with a plan, season 2 would have you believe his plans culminated in a simple armed revolution based on misguided notions of symbolism and myth.
And that's just two characters, let alone the drop in quality in the fights (narratively and technically, animation was still good if not better in places). The attention to detail season 1 puts on the battle plans and how every type of unit is important is almost non-existent in season 2.
I could literally go on about this for hours, in fact I've been drafting a full break-down of the whole situation, but that's not for here.
@@zionistsarewarcriminals IBO is just plain terrible, it has nothing to do with being fans of UC. Your opinion is just based on surface level tropes, which completely misses the point of why each series does what it does. Saying things like any character can die is "Tomino-esque" is just stupidly insulting as if it's the only defining part of Tomino's directing. 0080: War in the Pocket drove the message home and yet it's not even by Tomino, so go watch more Gundams kiddo
@@codepizza5077 im not a fan either i found it just too damn miserable.
@@crispymattastic to me it looked like they don't know what they're doing besides being pointlessly miserable. The plot just moves from A to B without much sense and at a snail's pace to boot. The world building is terrible too like they only do things when tekkadan is there, so they can kill characters. Doesn't help that there's barely any good MS fights and how telegraphed the deaths are.
Treize wouldn’t have said anything about her. He was smart enough to know that you never give away your greatest weakness to those that may exploit it. Treize had a lot of enemies that would have used it against him.
The mecha design in the novel sequel frozen teardrop is stunning (especially heero's snow white)
It looks insane but it’s very cool
Your assessment of wing being flawed solely in it's execution, then you tell us that without that your work crumbles.
This explains my taste in all media, i have great patience for flawed execution and none for a bad idea. Now i can explain this to people. :)
gundam wing: glory of the losers should have a full animated series. it deserves it much more than seed or 00, or their sub series.
"Made her." I lean towards the lab baby explanation
So I grew up with Wing on Toonami, I have so much nostalgia for this show and its sequel. In a way its almost funny because it is like a High Schoolers understanding of Global Politics and idea's, I don't think I could ever fairly judge it because it was very much a time and place for me. But this review series is fantastic and rally well done! thanks for this man, came up in my feed and made my day
I always thought the "daughter" was just a pawn since there was never any proof.
Wing Zero EW is the greatest Gundam design of all time. Nothing else can ever hope to come close. FIGHT ME
Is it bad that I didn't pick up on you calling her 'Evil Mineva' until like the third or fourth time you said it? Totally fitting name indeed.
Its funny you dislike the EW Zero because I think its wings are better than OG Zero. Think about it. They work for Atmospheric reentry, they give almost omni directional movement boosts and apperantly they also work as shields for beam weapons. Sure thats a lot of eggs to put in one silly anime basket but man, thats cool.
I could not care less how practical they could be when they just look straight up pretentious tacking angel wings onto a Gundam, like it's some kind of holy being of peace/destruction. Stupid imagery for the sake of stupid imagery.
The problem is that you can still accomplish all that without looking like an angel. Just look at the TV version of the Deathsycth Hell, or the Master Gundam. They can do something similar and still look like war machines.
@CommandoDude Gaudy mobile suits? In Gundam Wing!?
@@David_Axelord Admittedly the zero custom is far from alone in it's ostentatiousness, but it is certainly the most out there by an absolute long shot.
Devasia Mentality It's far from being stupid and has a wealth of practical application. The symbolism with Zero being the messenger to bring about the future through war and peace was intentional. Same with Deathscythe doubling down with its shinigami motif, but you seemed to have missed that. Guess it's okay for 0 Gundam and Throne Drei to do it, because GN particles are temporary, yet they still come down looking like crucified saviors from the heavens.
The TV versions are far too plain and blocky. Thankfully Katoki fixed those problems.
I dropped Wing about the time the "Queen Relena" plot started, so thanks for making those videos and helping me catch up on the story! Now in hindsight I'm glad I didn't keep on watching.
I like the battle scenes, and also some of the characters like Noin, Zechs and Treize, but hot diggity damn I couldn't stand Relena in her naive, slef righteous and preachy one dimensional glory.
Some people say thay Wing is the show with the most realistic politics, which kinda baffles me as in this movie we have the whole of humanity coming together to form a peace-loving utopia where most of the population agrees that war and conflict are bad things.
Over 20 years after Wing came out, the world is a lot more divided politically than it was back in the mid 90s, and we're facing a fear of nuclear extermination not seen ever since the height of the cold war. So to me the show's politics come off as being at Santa Claus levels of fantasy. I get that it's a positive and optimistic view on the future, and that's valid, but right now it's not at all realistic.
All in all, once again thanks for making those reviews! You've earned yourself a new subscriber!
Tallgeese III was awesome btw :D
They should have inserted a story to bridge the change in gundams' design, explain a little about Zechs' comeback, and Wufei's turning to the enemy side (i dont think it was flesh out sufficiently).
There is a story about it.
It feels like a filler episode it pretty much has to write Heero out of character to explain why the Wing-Zero looks different (No joke, his motivation was the same as, say, a car-owner who just wanted to mod his car for the heck of it).
They really just should've made it so that the Wing-Zero gets heavily damaged during the events of Battlefield of the pacifist which in turn forces Heero to not just repair it but also upgrade it in case something like the Scorpie comes along again.
After watching Gundam Wing series, you need to read Episode Zero Manga, then insert Blind Target, then Endless Waltz.
In Glory of Losers, the retelling of the GW series connects the events from before they started to go against Operation Meteor. Mind you, there will be lots of TIMESKIPS that are quite obvious in the GoL manga, these skips are shown instead in the anime.
Also, the OVA/Movie animation of Endless Waltz is freaking beautiful.
Thank you for making this review on EW, Wing and EW were my first anime, before knowing what anime even was, they've always had a special place in my heart. I'd love for you to make a Glory of the Losers review. Hope you're feeling better now!
I highly recomend giving Episode Zero a read. Its one of those weird side things that's kinda like early Astray where it tries to fill in the plotholes.
I am the only one who love the angel's wings?
There are things (mostly logistics) in Wing's setting/lore that kind of put me off of it, but that was my main gripe with the show and EW. 00 handled the setting in a way where troop losses felt significant, the Earth looked and felt enormous, and the aesthetics of each faction made following along with the conflicts intuitive.
Other than that, EW definitely did an interesting job tackling its own questions. Also points for not falling back on solving all the world's problems with a god particle.
5:55 i love how that bit there shows how in touch with reality the creator is.
Frozen Teardrop explains "evil Minerva's backstory if I recall correctly.
I always took Dakim's remark at the final confrontation to mean that Mariemaya was just some nameless orphan he happened to pick up and groomed into believing she was Treize's daughter, something he could easily go off and do again if something happened to her, making her just a disposable figurehead. It seemed pretty spelled out from the dub line, which is all I've heard it in, to be fair, but for exactly that reason, I always found Mariemaya to be the best part of this OVA. A real tragic antagonist, driven purely out of aspirations to live up to a name and legacy that isn't even hers, used as a pawn in her 'underlings' schemes.
Can't really remember enough of wing nor the OVA's to give proper commentary but usually I need to rewatch a series to really get the point of what it's trying to do although.
Wing never really stuck for me except for Treize who I found fascinating as a character, still from your Gundam reviews it usually gives me more things to appreciate when i plan to revisit a series.
You really know how and what to say and while I can understand some basic things about politics and philosophy it flies over my head at times what I am supposed to understand from the stories.
Looking forward to see you review AGE and Turn A for example although Turn A is best watched after having seen pretty much everything of UC and Wing, X and G Gundam.
AGE's 100 Year War and generations concept is great but it was a first time for the writer who prior to tv he wrote for games. Originally it was meant to have 75 episodes, that's 3 seasons to cover the whole story. AGE on paper is great but it needs a proper execution and the writer admit his shortcomings.
A weird connection I like between Endless Waltz and Pokemon. The big bag of pokemon Gen 5 kinda looks like Mr. Mustache in Endless Waltz, and both take a random kid and indoctrinate them with an unwarranted sense of self importance as a figurehead for their nefarious power-grab.
I think you misunderstand what Dekim means when he says they can make a "new Mariemaia," as he's implying that they can simply make a new figurehead for their reign as that's literally all she was for the coup; a face for the army. Also, Tireze's relationship was a one-off fling when he was younger (I think 17?) so he may not have been either 100% aware or it was a past he had to put behind him in pursuit of his ideals.
I agree, I didn’t think of him literally creating another of her being replaced with someone else
I've just recently started watching your videos but I love these analysis of the Wing series. I feel the same about wanting to know more about the back stories of the main characters and agree the OVA did a lot more more than the series. I'd hope the manga does better though. I heard that the side stories were awesome.
this film was my introduction to gundam and what a film it was~
I'm looking foward to the Ibo rundown
The enemy got high firing rate weapon and couldnt hit very well to pin them down in a narrow streets and in the air.
Great video
Endless Waltz is MY 1st ever Gundam feature that I ever watched that gotten me into all things (as well as my last name rhyming nickname that I call myself) Gundam 20 years ago & still going strong. My favorite Gundam series is Gundam 00.
Hahahah..... Self destruct go brrrrrr, really though awesome review/critique. Wing and endless waltz were my first intro into gundum so I'm extremely happy someone vocalized what I felt deep down but couldn't articulate.
While it's never directly mentioned that Treze has a family he does say that despite him not being able to return the feelings that lady une has for him has caused her to have split personalities, so perhaps it can be assumed that despite her 100% devotion being a man of honor he stays loyal to his existing family. Also the wings on zero where definitely made for an extremely dramatic entrance and visual that quickly faded because it was so impractical. They made of been a nkd to the song "the wings of a boy that killed adolescence" which was from the shows soundtrack. The wings on deathsythe were a bit over the top but not nearly as impractical since they offered protection and probably worked to help the suits anti-detection systems making it a more lethal and survivable close combat suit.
Nobody:
UA-cam captions at 10:58 : “omiro’s duel with shart”
I always liked the designs of the mobile suits in this series like for example to cockpits always looked very military and realistic
like similar to a fight jet interior
Have you looked into the Episode Zero manga? It's a few chapters detailing the Gundam Pilots childhoods which was supposed to be animated after Heero and Quatre come back to earth but it was cut due to a director swap halfway through the series
Great video, I've loved GW since it first premiered on toonami when I was 12-13. You're absolutely right about the ost, those woulda been pretty hard to beat by any series. At the end on EW they still did end up destroying their gundams though. All in all you did a great job, keep up the good work.
Man when you started talking how wufei and heeros fight was cool but only good and not great.. I felt that. Especially cuz I TOTALLY forgot that it even happened in EW
In the novels, it's revealed that Mariemaia is just a clone of Leia. She was backup organs for Leia because Leia was sick but Leia grew fond of her and treated her like a daughter. She isn't related to Treize at all.
Marimeia, was a daughter of the family to the man that Trowa killed (cant remember if it was his niece) and in that took his name because the original Trowa was the original pilot of the heavy arms. Marimeia was lied to that she was the daughter of Triez Marquise. They needed her family money to fund the Army used in the movie...... I hope this makes sense.
Endless Waltz is amazing
Endless Waltz was the first Gundam anime i saw cos i wanted to se my first ever Gunpla, the Sandrock Custom, in action. After that i obviously moved onto 0079 to start watching through every series in production order. I've been stuck on G Gundam for over a year due to time constraints. Thankfully those constraints have lessened as of late so maybe i can get back to watching series at the same speed i could while going through Stardust Memory & Victory.
I've also been watching all new Gundam anime since IBO started.
Glory of the Losers is definitely a fun ride. It effectively follows alot of the same story beats as the original show but the pacing and overall structure is alot better than the TV series. Showing more backstory and some of the more unanswered questions that never got answered in either the show or Endless Waltz definitely helped in its favour too, like why Wufei always refers to his Gundam as "Nataku" for example. Sure if you read other source material for Wing you'd find out the answer at the time but to not have it in the show always felt odd to me, it was just nice to have that in Glory of the Losers to make a more direct connection. I wouldn't call it a perfect retelling but if someone wanted to get into Wing I'd happily recommend Glory of the Losers for them to have a look at!
I think that is her point. I always felt her handler was just lying to her and she believed it. She is just a pawn in the never ending dance of war and peace.
Gundam Wing Episode Zero kinda eludes that Treize kind of had a thing with a nurse after a battle and that she had ties to the Barton Foundation
This is a great review wish I could go finish reading Glory of losers and read the LN Frozen Tear drops
Endless Waltz is great, the only issue I have with it is, why didn’t the original tv show have any of this? Just because Endless Waltz fixes a lot of the storytelling, doesn’t make Wing good, none of its improvements are in the original.
Dude OG wing is dated. Read Glory Of Losers it fixes most of the problems.
@@Bruh-py8xs the fact that a full manga rewrite is needed to fix everything awful about the series I think is a testament to how pointless everything about it is.
Devasia Mentality You took the words right out of my mouth.
On paper, wing was rushed out. At the time, Gundam X was doing so bad in japan, its run was cut by 10 or so episodes and wing was accelerated into production to keep up the gundam release schedule
Jeikobu Wing came out a year before X
Have you considered reviewing the various build series? I would love to hear your analysis on the various series.
"How many times do I have to kill that little girl and her dog?",
hit hard.
> NEXT: New Mobile Report Gundam Wing: Frozen Teardrop
Hey Boo, I have an idea, at least if you're still interested in doing anything with the Earth in Star Wars Series.
It's simple really, the idea is a collection of short stories set within the different chapters of the timeline usually focusing around a few individuals.
For example, Earth in Star Wars 3: after the Battle of Earth the Terrans became an ally to the Republic and assist them in their operations. This means some of the Terrans soldiers will fight along side the Clone Troopers and possibly a Jedi(not under the command of mind you, but an allied force).
I would love to see just how stark the difference is in how the Jedi wage war vs your average Terran soldier(Perhaps a UNSC General from America has a "difference of opinion" with a Jedi general on how a battle should be conducted?)
Basically you're taking a microscope to a certain part of one of the chapters to help give a bit more context to that time period. And it doesn't have to be serious all the time, there can be plenty of silly moments.
Surprisingly, That Evil Little Girl, was actually *IN* an Episode of Gundam Wing! I forget which episode, but yes she was a Little Red Headed Baby on the Docks that was trying to make her way over, to which Treizs stops her mother.
It's a small scene, but it shows that she didn't just come out of nowhere.
I remember that scene, she has no connection to that toddler at all, like her age wouldn't be the same since EW takes place a year after Original Wing Timeline
To paraphrase Palpatine: "A coincidence to be sure, but a welcome one"
a justification for wing's lack of backstory for the pilots that i haven't seen mentioned is that there were plans to include these backstories in the original tv airing, but due to production scheduling sucking ass, it kept being pushed back until the point we got episode zero as a separate manga
quote from the wiki when in the page for episode zero:
"Episode Zero can technically be considered semi-official, since it was originally going to be included in the Gundam Wing television series. Director Masashi Ikeda specifically asked Sumizawa to pen the main characters' back-stories, and they were to be included in the series following episode 27 ("The Locus of Victory and Defeat"). However, due to production scheduling being the "worst ever" (in Sumizawa's own words) and his withdrawing as a scenarist, Episode Zero's tale kept being delayed and pushed back. Though it was later intended to play some role in episode 31 ("The Glass Kingdom"), the problems persisted, and the Episode Zero story ended up being left out of the anime series entirely."
regarding 14:06 i have to make an objection since you clearly refer to when heero self detonated the wing while standing on it, the explosion looked imposing, but this was done purely for dramatic effect since it symbolizes the failure of the makeshift operation meteor and the gundam pilot's surrender, zechs eventually deduces that it was a controlled detonation, meant to destroy the core and the head, the most important parts since the rest of the suit by itself without its most important internal wiring is just a hunk of gundanium whose remains romefeller wants to just erradicate
i am not defending heero surviving the explosion itself, what i am defending is the consequences of it being a controlled explosion, it makes sense in a non-contrived way for him to survive, the wing not being absolutely destroyed actually becomes the next plot point since zechs wants the wing rebuilt for his honor-driven rematch, while romefeller explicitly wants it destroyed, this leads to a dummy being blown, a search party sent to antarctica because romefeller doesn't trust zechs, and ultimately zechs' defection. Regarding heero's side of this, he immediately questions trowa for not letting him die there, and is the catalyst for trowa's decision to blow himself up along with the heavyarms, heero also goes right after noventa's granddaughter to ask her to kill him, to extract revenge now that heero knows he killed a good man and all the pacifists in that plane, and sylvia outright rejects his proposition, calling him a coward for "trying to take the easy way out" and make heero question himself and his way of handling things, so this helps develop both heero and trowa, and explore the consequences of their actions, then the plot in the form of noin catches up to heero to go have his rematch
This ending was amazing! If some manga came around and ruined the idea of the whole ending, I think the After Colony era would be way worse! Ha ha! Ha… oh wait
I love your perspective on EW. It's something I didn't think about before, and increased my appreciation for it. That said, Marimaia obviously isn't Treize's daughter. Her eyebrows aren't as fabulous as Wing Zero's wings.
I loved Endless Waltz.the Angel wings were, admittedly, a bit much. But I agree with you on almost every front. The difference between us is that I have a huge nostalgia for wing, as I caught it on Toonami when it aired. I personally love the redesigns of thr gundams, except zero. Thr music hit harder than wing for me, but i do love what they did with Heero's character. Plus, there's nothing quite like Heero Yuy's Roger that.
Finally a positive video about Wing
Alot of the stuff you brought up. Were covered in the Mangas that connected them.
Boofire... I do believe the manga ends a lil bit differently, with Dekim stating Mariemaia is in fact a kid they picked up from the streets lol that's if I remember correctly 🤣
I loved Endless Waltz.
"Perhaps that the fact the self-destruct is just bad at its job."
He's going to have a laugh if he ever reads GotL manga, considering it actually worked for once. XD
The real question is, if new mobile report Gundam wing frozen tear drop gets a full anime/manga release will it be up to par or better than OG Wing or endless waltz
Mariemaia is not Tres' daughter. Dekim brainwashes her to think she is to use her to get the support of his followers, who feel lost after the series. She's actually the daughter of the real Trowa Barton, who was killed when the Heavyarms was stolen by the Trowa we know. We see her in the picture of his family the real Trowa shows the one from the show.
Evil Mineva. Lmao amazing
Actually, it's my first Gundam series. My second favorite after char's counter attack.
LOVE gundam wing
orginaly the back stories for the pilots was meant to be the first five episodes but got scrapt do to bandi wanting the gundams in battle right from the get go
Victory's episode 1 was supposed to be episode 4 to 5 when they reveal the Gundam. Yeah Bandai meddle in everything. Is it true Victory is Tomino's form of protest to Bandai-Sunrise merging?
Was about to hit subscribe but then you said you don't like the redesigned Wing Zero :P
Mariemaia being an A.C. Puru of sorts? Interesting.
Good to watch differences of opinion
I don't understand what people dislike about Wing and Endless Waltz. They're some of the best gundam shows out there along with Stardust Memory and 08th MS Team, Zeta and the original. The EW version of Wing Zero is my favourite Gundam.
pls pls pls do a story on glory of the losers! I have no idea what it has different there but I've heard a lot about it and people praising it
did you know that the story continues with New Mobile Report Gundam Wing: Frozen Teardrop
boofire191 in mean ways wing can in a strange way is like a starting point for the uc what i mean by this is in the uc there's only 2 nations federation and zeon so in a way this could have showen the hard time to make a unfied world nation