"The old must die. The new must be born" - Athol Trollip
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- Опубліковано 14 вер 2022
- In his insightful presentation at the fourth BizNews conference, South African politician and provincial chairman of ActionSA in the Eastern Cape, Athol Trollip details his extensive political background from his early days in a new and infant democracy post 1994. Skirmishes with the self-serving, corrupt and inept politicians. His tenure as mayor in 2016 all the way to his resignation in 2020 and eventual comeback under ActionSA in 2022. Trollip believes that well governed and dependable coalitions have a large part to play in the future of South Africa, a future he thinks needs to happen now.
Mr Trollip,ur r spot on,I was doubtful where I belong,now u've just answered my doubtfullness,nd I believe many S/Africans will agree with u,thanks very much!
My wish is that all black who vote with their eyes & ears closed must wake up and bring change to this country.
ANC MUST GO! ! ! !
Why
Father God bless this man abundantly and protect him and save our land from destruction.
Excellent talk 👏 👏 from Athol, has a great understanding of SA. Scary times indeed but still hopeful. We have to band together and fight for our country 🇿🇦 like we always have. Nothing worth having is ever easy.
Time for Dlamini Z to lead SA, Ladies care, Time for a lady President
@@jameskillu9171 I really hope you're being sarcastic cause if "when people zol" or "kopdoek" as I like to call her has to lead this country, then it's only going to get worse at a faster rate. The ANC and their corruption culture needs to get out and never come back.
First time giving an ear to this gentleman. Wow!! The fact that he called out the DA tells me while he is in politics he is not a politician...
My mom loves this man. He really took good care of Port Elizabeth during his time as a Mayor :)
I moved to PE from Cape Town in March 2016. Trollip came into mayorship in that August/September. I saw the difference myself over the next 2 years (and I went all over from the suburbs to townships etc.). Sadly, it went went thanks to political clowns who got rid of him.....
Hearing this man speak gave me a great deal of enlightenment.
Athol Trollip should be president! What an amazing country we would have.
Athol Trollip is a South African gem 💎
Excellent!!I hope it reaches those 30 million people that don't vote
Incredible insight! I haven't voted since coming back from London 9 years ago, I didn't see the point, i will definitely be voting in 2024. The change is happening, the change is now.
A good leader with a game plan. I would consider voting Action SA at the next election
Thank you Athol for your support and perseverance. You are a man of honor.
I've literally watched this channel every evening for the past 2 days since Rob was on then yesterday. The old man was on and today we are watching it again
Bro I'm just glad the real economy drivers are done keeping quiet, if you ask me I really believe we need that kick from capitalists. For the next ten years SA can tranform!
Well done A your are a committed star
What a copetent man who has and can make a difference. Will surely think of voting for him and his party..
We need you Mr Trollip in our Province of Eastern Cape.push out the thiefs.we are gaatvol of Amatutu.
I'm black in color, a SAFRICAN by virtue of birth, a compatriot, an adent Christian and a studios Bible student, I'm also an activist, or i was rather, u'll understand why. 1994 I was one of the active Leaders in my community in Hammanskraal, we encouraged the entire community to vote for the ANC, which I'm today very ashamed for having done that, especially being a Preacher of the Gospel, but we all did not know, what we know today. What i can say very boldly, without fear or favor, is that ANC today is full of Killers, murderers, fraudsters and Drug lords and they know that very well, even human trafficking is happening among the members of this heartless organization. Lastly i want to appeal to all those who are genuinely God fearing and law abideth citizens to distance themselves from these nefarious criminals.
I have hope for SA, due to people like you. Most SA's want the same thing. Honest and honourable government.
Watching from Detroit, Michigan USA.
I grew up here in southeast Michigan and saw the 'Arsenal of Democracy' destroyed over fifty years by leftist progressivism. We finally turned a corner ten years ago. dont lose hope for ypur future.
Detroit was unrivalled in manufacturing, highest rate of both millionaires and privately owned homes. We had the most national corporate headquarters.
Free market worked for workers and owners. The American middle class was built in places like Detroit.
There are so many paralles between my experiences here and many events and developments in South Africa.
I have great fondness for South Africa.
I am also a Christian and will pray to Our Lord to grant South Africa and all her people with life, liberty and prosperity.
I hope to visit SA in 2023 or it may have to wait until I retire from the bank.
I hear you sir and I also concur with the fact ANC has failed and it does not look like they will ever resolve anything. This is serious but also more serious are the past injustices committed by the fathers of these DA gentlemen who are now trying to "save" the day just because their economy is shaking but we as black people do not have an economy. We are struggling from industry to industry, you cannot point me to an industry where black people actually have a meaningful stake. Even migrants have better slices of south African economy than citizens. We are not xenophobic but our rights to thrive has been crushed.
But my concern is about "white supremacy" which is still prevalent. These DA patriots are not discussing reparations and correcting the issues of the past. When i say white, i am NOT referring to fellow white south africa in context. I am always referring to the white supremacy thing.
Voting DA is equal to voting white supremacy. This is worse than what ANC has done so far. If South Africa is not working for them they can go to other countries.
We as the black community must think about future. We really do not want to had over the country to white supremacists.
We have heard their points but let them start by discussing how we are going to resove the past. What about the land and transformation.
I think we are truly uniting against ANC but to no real agreement.
We as black people should leverage the situations. If we are going to fix, let us fix the past that ANC failed to fix. But now it must be done by us Black South African as the most victimized.
Must black people remain economic slaves?
As you look at the pace of business and technology, we have an almost impossible situation as black people. I may be doing well as an individual but as you zoom deeper I am in a constant battle because there is no real economy amongst my people.
Dear sir , it took some time to realise your mistake and now it´s time for change and make a stand against the corrupt ANC government who has RUINED OUR COUNTRY .
@@breakthrow20XX I'd like to know where this white supremacy is? What does it look like?
I always blame those who voted n pursuing on voting for ancestral ANC gov to be in power.... it's about time people should wake up, ANC will never do nothing for the people of this country
Trollip is genuine. I don't say this easily about white politicians. Salute
Why are you still so racist?
@ Lebohang Anorher genuine politician is Mayor Chris Pappas of uMngeni Municipality in KZN. See BizNews interview with Chris Pappas on UA-cam. The interviewer is Akec Hogg.
@@tonitappous2422 I'll check him out. I liked how Trollip avoided clichés of quoting failing US and Europe's so called successes achieved by coercing or invading third world countries, not to mention ongoing and current theft of mineral resources for example Venezuelan gold by the UK and Syrian oil by US. No pointing fingers but recommending solutions. Everyone knows about ANC corruption. We need actions in response. Calling out racist agenda of DA
Can’t help but be impressed. I lived in Nelson Mandela Bay when he was mayor, which he was great at doing. I especially appreciated that he was on the radio every second week. Stop pointing fingers at each other and point South Africa in the right direction. I’m in a buoyant mood after this talk. 🕺
Totally agree. Mr Trollip is a hands-on leader. A true leader leads by example.
Good man
Good Athol,no words to describe this speech.Be sure about my vote.
Team of Rivals is my favourite book of all time. The only book I’ve ever read more than once. Highly recommended!
Thank you so much for this explanation that explains in plain language how necessary it is for each one of us to take a responsible stand for Our Country.
A fantastic guy!!! 👏
Well done on this event, Alec.
I love this guy
Well done Atholl 🤔reminding me of my former colleague Anton Janse Vanresburg also from PE
What I liked about Athol is he's one of the first people I've come across that looks at examples set in history and known examples of how to do things, if you really look into the quotes and books mentioned there's a lot of quotes and experiences one can learn from without having to go through the same experiences.
lee kuan yew is probably the best example of that, it's the first time I've heard any South African politician speak about him and he's probably one of the greatest leaders in history that took literally a swamp and converted it into what we know today in Singapore.
What an amazing speech really enjoyed listening
A. T. wonderful talk, you said it all!!!
Mayor Pappas rocks !
DA hard one chance to govern SA. They had very good leaders like Herman mashaba, Musi, Trolip and they fucked up. Now we have Actionsa but it will have work very hard for win, unfortunately they don't have plan for rural areas.
@ Meek M You have the wrong impression of the DA.
Have you seen Mac G's Podcast with John Steenhuisen on UA-cam? John was very well received by the youth who watched the Podcast. Just look at the inspiring comments!!
@@simsimma7719 I think that 2024 will be a watershed election in SA and that the youth will finally find their voice and vote for change.
The infrastructure of our country is literally collapsing before our very eyes and everyone (regardless of race) wants a continuous supply of electricity!!
All Action SA people are trained by DA. Why did Action SA not attract people from ANC?
Well said.
Thank You Athol for this excellent presentation 👏 I am not in SA but in Eswatini and yet I am sure even the whole of Africa needs to hear this. Different countries yet relatively similar challenges. We need more leaders with this type of mindset. Good collaborations that bring about good change is all that matters. Not our different backgrounds/ political parties/ affiliations/ etc.. Thank U again.
Thank you Mr Trollip for a candid insightful explanation of how we as true South Africans need to view our future and existence on this planet. I will send this address to as many people that I believe will also understand and as you have Make a Difference. Also thank you Alec Hogg for these seminars where some of the greatest minds in South African economy and politics are able to speak freely to us.
@ Joe Stevens Have you seen the very positive response of the youth to Mac G's Podcast with John Steenhuisen on UA-cam?
Young people are beginning to realise that taking an interest in politics and voting responsibly can help steer SA onto a better course and trajectory than is currently happening.
(see the comments)
I just bought a farm in Umngeni municipality. Can’t wait to see that change the DA is causing
Keep me updated.
Find on UA-cam “How Chris Pappas turned uMngeni around”
@@juditkoncz1020 i saw that one. Thanks for mentioning it
Athol was the greatest loss for the DA.
Dont tell us ...Tell Moron Steenhuisen.
I agree.
Agree
Very good speech
Sir, thank you. Clear, objective and compelling. I shall support you with my vote when the time comes... MPH. Keep campaigning on that basis - your message is important and must be heard.
The fact that Mashaba has Trollip in his team makes me think of reconsidering my decision to vote for DA come next elections. My isssue is, won't spliting the numbers be to the advantage of the ANC?... so to me when it comes to numbers the DA is the best choice... I wish to hear Hellen Zille's response to what was said about her and the DA..
Big up Trolip
Listening to this channel is helpful and it brings hope.....The book that Mr. Trollip spoke about I just bought it !!!
2024 I'm there and I'm Green 👍
Love you Ntate Trollip 🙏🙏🙏
Spot on Athol. ANC have no idea how to manage transport infrastructure. Solution- #VoetsekANC
Athol trollip ,Herman Mashaba and calling on Mmusi Mmaimane to ActionSA 🇿🇦👊👊👊
Good day.Its up to the citizens to change things for the better
Subscribed now . Great content.
EXCELLENT. SPOT ON.
Turn arounds do happen, good luck Athol
Great man,real fixer of towns, real leader, need you to save our country's people.
Meritocracy-Pragmatism-Honesty.
Definitely not the ANC mantra
When is the colour issue going to stop labeling the best candidate.
Love that Gramsci quote Mr Trollip!
That stuff about us having the worst ports in the world shook me, it shows how bad these ANC thugs are,
South Africa is beyond repair good luck anyways
Stop being negative!!!. That's why this country is going for a bag of s@#t. All starts with stopping corruption . 99.9% of anc is just that . Get rid of it and this will be SA again. With a rainbow nation .
I don't know why but I have always liked Trollip. I think he is a decent and genuine guy. I honestly look back not and realize that I don't think that the DA was a party for him.
@ H Muse You have the wrong impression of the DA, it is full of people of quality ( just like Trollip).
Have you seen Mac G's Podcast with John Steenhuisen on UA-cam? Judging by the comments, John was very well received by the youth who watched the Podcast!!
wow were has been this channel been. I have never voted but really want to vote after I heard Rob Hersov.. but who do I vote for cause there is no party yet with people of integrity. this is why I have not voted in the first place. but not voting is voting for ANC this now I understand.
Vote Action SA
@ Sinazo Ncoyi Have you seen Mac G's Podcast with John Steenhuisen on UA-cam? Judging by the very positive comments, many South Africans are beginning to realise just how important their vote is towards changing SA's future for the better!!
"Who do I vote for cause there is no party yet with people of integrity."
In politics, the only thing we can hope to achieve is to choose the lesser of two evils. You are correct, no political party will ever be 100% honest or transparent. I know that as well. But there is only one reason why I will vote in 2024 - to hold the ANC accountable. The main reason why corruption has gotten so bad in this country is simply because the ANC has never had anything to fear - people keep voting for them, so why should they worry? Only when they face real consequences for their actions (ie. at the ballot box) will they start realizing that they are in trouble, and seriously need to change their ways. And this applies to any political party, whether it's the ANC, the DA, the EFF or whoever. When any of them mess up, we need to let them know at the ballot box! 🗳
Who should you vote for? Only you can make that decision. Personally I'm considering the DA, or possibly ActionSA. Yes, they are not perfect either. But like I said, we are not looking for perfect - we are looking for the lesser of two evils. Who knows? Maybe they will end up surprising us. But if they don't, there's always next election - we, the people, decide their fates, and they know that.
@@carlruppert7324 The only party big enough to effectively challenge the ANC at the polls is the DA. The DA also has a 10 year track record of clean and very capable governments across SA, which no other party has.
Have you seen the overwhelmingly positive response of the youth to Mac G's recent Podcast with John Steenhuisen on You Tube?
It is an eye- opener!
( read the comments)
@Toni Tappous, dude, I already said that I am considering voting for the DA. Stop posting the same comment everywhere about some random podcast. You're being annoying!
Take back what has been stolen from SA -- stand your ground we are with you amen
We hear everything, they are facts but can we also hear from other race speakers as you discuss matters of the Mzansi. Thank you
Please make sure that in elections parking is available for older people near the voting stations so that we don't have to drive round and round and end up going home in frustration
Very meaningful arguments by Trollip!!! Unlike snotty Rob Hersov who shows a "white" superior or conceited attitude.
🤔🤔,,,, 👍🏾👍🏾 Athol ,, you have the full backing of your career and life experience to rightfully name and shame as well as guide on the future direction of your country’s politics,, indeed perhaps, done right, coalition seems the best option in your multiparty democracy, however outside multiparty democracy, coalition government isn’t the answer, but electioneering on the basis of individual merit based on geographic association (constituency) & not political ideological lines, but simple, plain South African ‘rainbow nation’ Nationalism/Patriotism. SA needs to first crystalize your existent out of the box existing form of what one would call a ‘rainbow nation’ nationalism ( a political philosophy that captures the inherent and diverse cultural values that make up the entire rainbow nature of people whom you are).
What is the difference between Boris Johnson , Ramaposa and Zuma ? He went to a better school ??? THEY ARE ALL CUT FROM THE SAME CLOTH !! The Tories and ANC .... When I returned after 10 years working in SE Asia and saw what was going on in the UK , I thought "If this were xxx I would regard that as corruption ... BUT this is England" ..... my Sourth Africa innocence was showing ...
Me too - in UK some 15 years ago - as an expat (HAVING LIVED IN SA FOR MANY YEARS) I was disgusted - its only got worse since. For better or worse I live in SA. To do so and remain awake, fully aware and rational you have to have a survival plan - a damn good one. I will bring a few people together on an off-grid farm-based village concept with a well thought-out and holistic development plan and THRIVE... and watch the corruption eat away at itself like a body decaying on a morticians slab! For all Trollip's enthusiasm - I just can't see anything changing short of an apocalyptic event. Sadly.
Pity that actions spends more time attacking the da than attacking the ANC. Their arrogance is a major stumbling block to coalition government
@ Kevin Joubert You are spot on, I agree with you!
Actionsa
Pls get Neil de Beer (UIM) to chat on your program.
His a has been sorry my thoughts and million others
If you can keep your your head while others are losing theirs..French Revolution
Viva TROLLIP VIVA ENKOSI BHUTI
The old strolls back like zombies..
Why don't u invite other parties to have a balanced view in things?
As an Indian we haven’t had any voice and have been tarnished by Guptagate. In conjunction with this is us not belonging. My pride for the country has diminished and I really don’t believe that there is an honest bone in politics or hope to rid the rot. Atol a beautiful vision but sadly not realistic. Goodluck I getting people to vote.
Herman Mashaba is the South African Donald Trump of this 2024 campaign.
WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT 🙄. "All hail the great and powerful Atholl Trollop!" Now what? Knowing the truth and acting on a truth are two completely different things. It's not enough that you all see the problem, you are going to have to motivate the unconvertable to not only vote but to vote for somebody else in the 2024 elections. This is doable. If you all follow this approach. The so-called adults in South Africa (most have a child like mentality) have become discouraged and disinterested in the voting system. You can not change their minds. Trust me, I've tried for years. However. There may be a loophole. Their Children's Future. It's a long shot, I know. I've tested with THE THREE QUESTIONS. Do you love your children? Would you die for your children? Would you vote for your children's future? 🤔. It appears that I have hit a nerve with this thought process. So.. what I suggest everybody starts doing is offering the following advice whenever possible. Do your due diligence and examine each party and select the one that you believe will work for your children's future. Keep pushing "You're children's future." It seems 😕 amazingly enough that parents in this country, after 28 years of no voting, actually may care for their children's future 🙄. Who knew? It surprised me as well, I know. Can you imagine being an 18 year old child asking your parents if they voted for your future and the parents reply. 🙄 "We only voted in 1994". I would love to be a fly on the wall in that room. Anyway, this is the only and correct way to change the mindset of a nation. Use it. Don't use it. But I will still send out these little motivation talks to the common man. I find it most refreshing.
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Can we trust Mashaba?? Not sure we can.
His arrogance is a problem for coalition politics
I am not very fond of Mashaba. I think he has a ego problem
@@kevinjoubert2453 what arrogance?
Please let's hear your reason. Please for the love of God, do not tell us some foolish DA story. When you've just heard a former DA leader talk about how they have no integrity
@SquidyMan, he didn't say that the DA doesn't have integrity. He said, that poor decision-making on their (and specifically Helen Zille's) part led to bad results for them in recent elections. That isn't the same as saying they have "no integrity".
The tide of coalition parties, floor crossers and black corruption.
Sounds like Helen Zille bashing.
I would vote for action SA if it was not for its attitude to Zimbabweans who despite their best to regularise their status and who have had their jobs for decades but who have to buy their work permits from corrupt home affairs officials.
Well it's better than the anc and eff.
Then don't vote for Action SA.
We won't compromise our strong stance on immigration just to appease those who seek cheap employment from "hard workers". If they are highly skilled and are of a benefit to the SA economy, they deserve citizenship. Most Zimbabweans aren't.
@@TheDarkSib they d t necessarily want citizenship . They live in a brutal country with so many human rights abuses which mbeki and Zuma kept quiet on. Most of them are documented with zim passports. They add massively to the gdp in this country and they are far better educated and more attractive to employers. Jack up the education for all people in this country, put pressure on Zimbabwe to improve their standards of democracy and zimbos will go home. The hospitality and construction industries will collapse. In both sectors Zimbabweans go to college to learn their skills.
@@sarahhudleston832 The hospitality and construction industries will collapse, why didn't they collapse when Zims weren't in this country?
Certain people want Zims because they are easier to exploit, easier to demand more from at a lower price.
This belief that they have a huge impact on the GDP, how do undocumented, unskilled people have a huge impact on the economy, they are paid cash, some don't even have bank accounts, why can't documented SAns be hired in those positions instead?
If you wish to hire Zims bcoz they are better, do so, but you must be taxed if you pay them below minimum wage.
Let's see how many employers care about them after that