BNC#5: Mashaba’s Q&A on Coalition politics; McKenzie’s assertions; Ejecting the ANC in 2024 and more
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- Опубліковано 6 сер 2024
- Herman Mashaba is at his best when cruising off-piste, fielding difficult questions. He had quite a few to navigate during the interview and audience engagement section of his keynote at the 5th BizNews Conference in the Drakensberg, held in March 2023. Mashaba began with a glowing endorsement of political rival Gayton McKenzie’s ‘true and riveting’ keynote address before on to a wide range of topics including how his creation, Action SA, intends playing a significant role in South Africa’s future - as either its biggest or #2 political party.
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00:00 Herman Mashaba on what he thought of Gayton Mackenzie’s speech
02:49 His thoughts on the death penalty
05:47 His views on illegal immigration
09:25 On finding a way to make peace with Helen Zille and the DA for the rainbow coalition
19:30 On how he will get the 70 to 80% to come out and vote
22:17 On how he will deal with the issue of immigration
24:32 On BRICS and the growing Russian influence
26:11 On if he’s willing to go into a coalition with the EFF for the sake of removing the ANC
32:52 In the event that the ANC doesn't get 50% of the vote in 2024. What chances of the ANC actually giving up power?
35:48 On if he believes there will be a free and fair election in 2024
39:04 On making peace with Helen Zille
42:32 On property
44:27 On the KZN riots
46:34 End
Alecc ActionSA and the PA tried and it's the DA that didnt play ball.. so put the pressure on Hellen not Mashaba🤷♂
Exactly
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I was one of the people who stopped voting, but after hearing Mr Mashaba and Mr McKenzie I am removing ANC come 2024
Let's go 2024 !!
Herman Mashaba, I thought he was a great DA. He is a very good guy. I don't know much about politics, but I still say he is a clever guy. I don't know personally. DA.
I'll vote for ActionSA
Me too❤
Alec is clearly biased, can he not hear that smaller parties WANT to work with the DA but Helen is the problem.
He’s a Helen fanatic
Yes but anybody who has been in politics for 60 years has my respect
Wena Mlungu you are a die hard DA supporter everyone can see how hard you are trying not to point a finger at Helen.
Exactly
Alec never tells Helen to come to her senses like he tells her coalition partners. Strange
True
Exactly! Hence I cancelled my membership...Biznews = DA = Zille
Goidbye
@@akay8127 Bye
Exactly
ActionSA is the party to vote for in 2024
Herman is honest and straight forward
See "Leon Schreiber : DA now draws the most support in urban SA," Businesslive.
MR Mashaba ur a REAL person, all my respect to YOU and your Party
Herman Mashona is a good man. I believe in him and he puts South Africans first.
You've got that right my sister.👏
If the DA into coalition with the ANC I will not vote for them and I have been a loyal voters for all my life.
the fact that Helen came as representative for DA not John Steinhuisen, it tells me Zille is in charge
Exactly
Well, having an experiences adviser would be a good for someone like John. Perhaps he's busy, either way, who cares about such small things. Both John and Helen seem capable, let them do their thing. I don't care about who's number 1 and 2, but more importantly action being taken and corruption rooted out. Change is a team sport. Seriously just be a bit wiser
This is great everyone is against the ANC
But Actionsa have offered to go into coalition with them. List my vote for sure
@@patriciakimworsley9315
No they did not...Bongani was promised a mayorship position in Tshwane by lesufi.
So they asked to talk to Mashaba about this proposal of talking not coalitions. Mashaba left that with the Senate and they did a poll.
Mashaba rejected any coalition & this happened at the time the poll came out. Bongani is mad his plans were thwarted by a "Dictator"
Botswana has the death penalty, hence the low murders... 500 children died last year at whose hands .. what the hell... I agree bring the death penalty.
I wish they all find a common ground & fight this evil ANC.so we can grow our beautiful country for us & the next generation Republic Of South Africa 🇿🇦 is #OURS !!!!
This man str8 spitting faxxx.
Mr. Mashaba for prez 2024
The problem with the interviewer is that he has already taken a side
It is impossible to appear "unaffected" by issues that keep you awake at night. It is time to pick lines and save this country. No one is neutral @ the end of the day
@@thabomashiane8265 come 2024 I'll be in the voter's post, this country needs the right leaders for the sake of our children's future, never allow terrorists to take over the leadership of this country, otherwise I'll feel sorry for our future generation.
I like that Mashaba calls the ANC a criminal enterprise because that's what it is. Anything that will remove this cancer from the helm of this country has my support. ANC thugs must be kept outside of coalition politics. Whoever comes to power must round up all those ANC thieves and throw them in jail without mercy.
I like Herman Mashaba. Helen Zille is a major stumbling block for the DA. She is far too arrogant. She retired, why did she come back and why did the DA allow her back.
Get her a sowing kit and some more kats😂
Helen Zille is an intelligent woman this Country is politically shortsighted..🩵💎
Helen Zille should step down for the greater good of South Africa
Your asking a Master of Politics to step down when she is fighting a political war against the rot of the ANC with 60 years in Politics she has my respect
Herman is a honest man
Herman is the President we all need. He loves this country wholeheartedly.
It is sad to hear you talking Alec because you are not partial. Your support for DA and Zille is so clear without you saying so. Gaton asked you how come Zille fights with everyone, who is the problem child here? You are refusing to see Zille as a dictator here and a bully. Unfortunately DA is going to be shocked come 2024, they are going down just like the anc.
Alec is impartial. He had created this platform to chat
The guy is the DA supporter.
@@thamsanqanomayela1161 if we all lived in a country that ran as well as cape Town does... It would be amazing for everyone.
Do you have something against people who like supporting things that work. Are you against supporting people successfully delivered what they promise, are you against efficiency and effectiveness...
Is it possible you have a chip on your shoulder?
Or can you support those who do well
Consider watching Helen's response.... If you care about facts and honesty, as opposed to emotional blackmail and lies...
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@@WayneKaminsky This false and preposterous narrative,by Whites,that Cape Town is well run.
The previously White and still majority White areas are well run.
Definitely not the Black and Coloured townships.
That's a fact🚶🏿🚶🏿🚶🏿.
Yeah Mr mashaba I think you're peach is clear to all clever youth of this country and the future for this country Anc and eff are the same we can't go forward if we are going to vote for them again viva mashaba and gaytern we support you guys
I hope Gayton and Herman stay true to their words and actually get together with Helen and find common ground.
They should go a step forward and compile a coalition thesis together so when coalitionnegotiations take place after the election, the Rainbow Coalition already has a coalition agreement in building a stable national government.
Stupid DA will fuck everything around 😒 u don't know them
When will Alec realise that the DA is ANC lite
😂😂😂😂😂 seriously ?
@@christinefinniss6263 DA is ANC lite. I sounds wild, but what’s wilder is that it’s true.
@@braveheart6047 . 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Rubbish
@@christinefinniss6263 keep voting for your DA (ANC Lite) 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Finally somebody talking sense.!
And hes colour blind.!
Nothing wrong with following the rule of law to the letter.!
For this and such a man the whole South Africa should vote.
Many will see this and will support this green party.!
They will grow in leaps and bounds.!
Please Alec you could be the mediator! Do it! Get them all away for a weekend somewhere to do team building or something.
We need this ANC out and the good guys in!
Helen has been wonderful, but she has had her day. Everyone I speak to agrees. These smaller parties MUST find common ground now and unite.
It is becoming more and more clear that Helen Zille is a major stumbling block in the coaltion effort. I thought John Steenhuisen was the leader of the DA, not Helen Zille.
Zille is the federal chair of the DA, so she's Steenhuisen's boss.
Helen Zille IS just as much to blame as Herman and McKenzie. The moderator is acting like it's all Herman and McKenzie's fault.
@@vthomas2313 didn’t you see how goofy faced he was when int were viewing Hellen😂 he clearly has a crush
@@Vv-fl2rm 😂😂🤷♂🤷♂
John Steenhuisen stand up and take your place and do what's right for all Sputh Africans. It's now your chance or never.
What a a champion Mr Mashaba!
Doesn't Zille have grandchildren and knitting to keep her busy?
Seems she should get out of politics, she is the common problem when taking the ANC down.
Years ago, i said only if you get rid of Helen Zille, will I vote DA.
This Elec guy is Zille's high-school friend. Putting so much energy in blaming Mashaba for the sour relationship between DA and Action SA. Mashaba is telling him many times what Hellen does to ruin stuff and he is not listening.
Voting ActionSA
PA sends Gayton.
ActionSA sends Herman.
DA sends Helen.
Well I think we know who runs the DA🤷🏿♂️
Hope in Action💚
It's the first time actually seeing him he clearly is a good person. I could vote for him. I've only heard good things about this man.
Same here ... Gayton enlightened me about the coalition.... No more DA for me
This is the best opining platform about necessary issues facing our beloved country about the real world economic issues not some misdirected revolutionary madness
ActionSA,PA & VF+ would be a good coalition.
100% agree ...Wish more people listen to these broadcasts .. I am spreading the word . I likeMusi Mmane as well (BOSA) ...But since today ..Gayton more (PA)
Mashaba has a hard task going forward, so I wish him well.
Me too ActionSA
God bless and protect you Entate Herman
Hellen is too far up her own backside....
she has played her role. Let new blood lead the DA and help shape RSA
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Well done guys!!!!
our last hope Herman Mashaba
He speaks Avery one’s mind 🙏
Your bias for the DA, Alec, is quite telling. Herman maintains that ActionSA did everything in its ability to get the multi-party coalition governments in the metros to work; even Gayton affirmed this. Yet you choose to push your own DA propaganda.
Every coalition partner has stated that the DA and Helen are the biggest barriers to a viable coalition administration. It's on record, even VF+ alluded to this. The DA has long since forgotten about the black vote, and they are not even attempting to win it. How can we salvage South Africa if we just focus on the white suburbanian middle-class vote whilst disregarding the majority black, township, and rural vote?
Herman is just about the appropriate leader to unite South Africans of all colors and origins, rural and urban, in the common objective of rescuing our country from the ANC's criminal enterprise.
Helen Zille ke moloi😂, it seems she's a problem for DA and the coalition. ANC is smiling 😊 as long as she's there.
Totally agree on the death penalty, those that take life, destroy life, don't deserve to live their own lives. Often these kinds of people will be responsible for repeat offensives. Our tax money can be better spent on the innocents and good people in our societies.
It would be nice to put all the opposition leaders in a room and televize it to show us.......... Something like a Codessa but this time to get rid of the ANC instead of the NP which were two relics of the 20th century. Maybe a new leader will emerge who deserves our support .
We can only hope for a DA and ActionSA coalition - This will lead to huge investment, jobs and economic growth!
The opposite is an ANC and EFF coalition - this will lead to mass immigration of money and skills, the EFF will completely destroy whatever is left of the damaged country!
Herman must stop begging the DA. Helen is very arrogant
Why are they forcing everyone to elevate DA at expense of PA ND action sa this is BS
Helen is a closet dictator. She holds so much power without being the actual leader of her party. What she says goes. Then what is the job of John? Is not make sure
💯 I agree 👍
He is a stumbling Trump wannabe dictator 🙋🏽♂️
The interviewer is so pro-Helen , geez ..........where was the same energy when he interviewed Helen
It is clear the that Alec is pro DA he's not just here to give these politicians a platform.
HI An Indian from Phoenix Herman Gayton Steenheisuan I am committed to you minus Helen Zilla
What I've realised from Gayton's and Herman's presentation, is that the DA have no qualms about backstabbing their partners.
The death penalty must be a policy that is visited at a later stage. The policing in this country Needs fixing. There are ppl who are framed who are in jail.
Johannesburg descended into a criminal rubbish dump after he left the city as mayor.
You’re trying hard to be nice it turned into a ‘Hell hole’
Why don’t you speak the same way to Hellen? Why must Mashaba be the one to compromise when you clearly see the fault is with Helen? Why this bias!
Hi Alec . I have a lot of respect for upto the time you spoke to Herman . You spoke down to him as if he was a child . You telling them about water under the bridge my god how stupid can you be. You want one person to control 3 other political parties and ignore the person who built up the party. You want that one person to throw away his life's work just so Helen can be president of the country and that is the ultimate play here . John steenhuizen may become president but he will controlled by Helen Zille . Do you seriously think that is also gonna be good for South Africa. Why not ask Helen Zille to step out of the way and remove herself from the DA and then we will see if the party will do better without her or worse without her but then I think the party will most probably win the election outright
Helen Zille IS just as much to blame as Herman and McKenzie. The moderator is acting like it's all Herman and McKenzie's fault.🤷♂🤷♂🤷♂🤷♂
REMOVE HELLEN !! YOU GUYS MUST COME TOGETHER!!! Old Nationalist motto..... Eendtacht maakt mag! GOD FORBID WE MUST NEVER GO BACK TO THAT BUT IT MAKES SENSE!!
Great Respect for Him
Alec don't defend Hellen she's the problem get that into your head
She don’t want to get it😂
@Alec, why aren’t you addressing the common denominator? Why don’t you ask Helen Zille why she’s still running the DA? She calls herself as a Gogó, then she needs to retire and give the DA a fighting chance. I have been voting for DA since the day I started voting but if Helen is still in the DA come 2024, my vote goes to ActionSA.
Herman if Helen Z has her way the ANC will remain in power.
Please talk action Sa with herman not DA or PA
I must say out of all of them I'm really impressed by Herman Mashaba what an incredible interview Gayton and Mashaba I see something here as for the DA not sure but I'll never vote for them ever, actionSA and PA will decide what to do with it I have trust in them.
Good comment Gayton
The moderator seems more like a DA fan
No Mr Mashaba, the PA was formed in November 2013, and it voiced the illegal immigration challanges before you did. By the time you emerge as a Mayor Glayton has long demonstrated his dismay with the way our immigration is run. Yes your voice became louder as you were in the DA as a lone voice as well as when you formed the ActionSA.
We really appreciate and recognizes your great contribution on the issue of immigration, however, the PA raised it long before it was even fashionable to do so.
The interviewer is painfully bias and it is low key looking down on Herman
Herman is such a cutie pie 💕
Mr Mashaba just forget about human rights lawyers, they hv destroyed SA. They do nothing abt crimes. As the day has started, thousands of innocent South Africans are being buried. It's funerals of people killed going to work for their children.
We absolutely need to bring back the death penalty!!
PEACE WILL BY WON BY THE PEN AND NOT THE SWORD.
There is no doubt that following Helen’s return the DA lost ground and I feel that their arrogant , superior stance will not be well received by the majority of South Africans . If they had a leader that people could really relate to and then support and back that leader through thick and thin , then their is a chance . This is not a comment maligning Mrs Zille as her skills and track record may be impeccable , but perhaps not relevant in these times , in this environment. I think Herman rightly can not work with someone who has breached trust and reneges on an agreement ( assuming this is the case ) - if not they must sort it out , but if it is true I think he is right . One can not sell their soul to the devil , in the name of expediency . It’s not complex - say what you will do and then do what you say .
Alec's attempt to blame everyone whilst protecting the DA is nauseating. No is asking you not to support whomever you want, however have the decency and respect to not support them at the expense of the truth and your guests maarn.🤮
The moderator obviously has his favorite. Why didn't he speak to Helen the same way and he doesn't understand why we don't want to vote for DA. Always speaking down to us like we are stupid and that we are unable to govern ourselves.
I like the idea of the death penalty for rape and murder 💯
This country doesn't need someone who can govern but needs someone who can unite us. Pure heartedly this white vs black situation makes gorvening a challenge
If DA is opposed to the ANC how can they even think of going into a coalition with them .speaking with forked tongue
Good comment about the illegal immigrants/ refugees Herman. When it’s holidays they go home. 😂🤙
Dear Herman, if you have the good for SA at heart you don't persue personal grudges !
You work for the greater good !
You, as an individual, don't matter. Put your ego aside !
How is western cape well governed when they have the highest crime rate and poverty number?
Don’t play games you say Cape Town is the best run city have you been to coloured and black areas the white suburbs are the best run
Presidential material Herman is
I heard some Americans talking about China buying up property in the U.S. I asked myself that same question, how much do we know, if at all?
As a black person. My only problem with both Mashaba and Gayton is that they lack political consciousness. It's all good and well that we all want the corrupt ANC out of power but then what after that?
As for the DA, I will stick my elbow in my ear first before ever voting for them. Hellen Zille is a caricature of what the DA is all about.
Enough said...
I am over DA
The lack of political conscience of Glayton brought normal toilets in the Karoo. With his lack of a “political conscience” he build a baker, and never took a pay in the municipality. What else do you want?
Right now we need people who will remove us from both the sesspool of hopeless that both the DA and the ANC have created, and what the EFF wants to bring on the table. We need economic and social stability and the political consciencess will follow. We have no energy power right now, we have crime sky-rocketting daily, we have bad education system.
@@mthokozisilanga4497 Yes I do concur with what you are saying. We have all been let down badly especially black people. In a country like South Africa however, the worst thing we can do at this stage is voting in people who lack political conscience. The struggle was never about the basic things. The struggle was about the land and the economic emancipation of the masses of our people.
Gayton and Mashaba are hopelessly out of tune with the socioeconomic zeitgeist both locally and economically. They both may succeed in keeping the lights on and making sure everything works but that's it. It ends there. They don't have the vision to take us back on coarse of equality and shared prosperity. They don't have a plan to lift black people from being relegated to being beggars in their own country.
Every economic indicator shows that the gap between the poor and the rich has widened since 1994 and Gayton and Mashaba's response to that is to do away with BBBEE while offering zero alternative plan respectively.
Mashaba always tells us about how he started Black Like Me. Sure I respect him for what he has achieved but he needs to realise that his story is an exception not the norm. He needs to disabuse himself from thinking that every black person who is impoverished can simply pull themselves up by the by their bootstraps and lift themselves up from poverty without any assistance. As for Gayton McKenzie, him and his friend/partner Kenny are direct beneficiaries of BBBEE. They never would have been in the financial position they are in today if it wasn't for BBBEE.
I myself never would have been in the fortunate financial position I am in today if it wasn't for BBBEE and I cannot deny that. As black people we must never allow our own narrative to be taken over by other people including the very deceptive South African mainstream media. We need to take full authority over our own narrative and build from there.
DA was great and had biggest success in 2016 when Mmusi Maimane was the leader. Helen then worked him out and now .DA will be losing BIG time in C.T next year ..
@@anne-mariecoetzee2469 The DA will do just fine in Cape Town. Their divide and rule tactic is serving them just fine in Cape Town.
The Cape Coloureds hate black people more than they do white people. The DA will always profit and exploit this divide.
Herman Mashaba is naturally a good man,as a black person I just don't understand how his politics will save my interest.The rainbow nation gimmick is an illusion to prank a black person, so to me this guy is a classic example of a purpet .we are being sold here!!!!!!
I cannot underscore what he says about party agents enough. If you care about the future, you will not only vote next year, you will volunteer your time as a party agent/electoral observer to ensure your vote counts.
I ll vote 🗳 for PA
lol, The presenter is the problem and is already DA-biased starting this interview.. his delusional and is literally refusing to believe that Helen is the problem and coming up with unrealistic solutions to protect her. I mean this is ludicrous... I hope we get to see the Helen interview, should be interesting. I want to see how he handles himself. As I am searching(doing research) for a political party to vote for ( like many of my friends ) come the elections, these conversations are great. PEACE!
Herman does not identify the problem clearly. I believe it is this: The DA has tried hard to deprive ActionSA and coalition partners of political successes - power positions in coalitions, because it is, and will be, their main rival. Hence all the maneuverings, and even the propaganda (actually cringe-worthy) about ActionSA not acting in accordance with agreements. It amounts to overly hard bargaining. But the coalition partners will retaliate and wear Zille down in due course.
Thank you Alec.
35:49 I have worked as an electoral staff in four elections(2 National and 2 local) I was also a Duty in the last local election...so I can say with confidence that it extremely difficult to steal an election...we shout out the party name on each of the ballots that are voted for(marked correctly aka in the borderline )in front of the party-agents and international observers.
What the Buffalo will do is to scare the elderly in rural South Africa,telling them apartheid will come back or threaten their social grants and of course food hampers.
The problem is a lot of young people don't vote,register to vote or update/check their status if they have moved from one province(national)/ward(local)to the next one.
I don't understand why there's such a resistance between Zille, Mashaba and McKenzie can not come together to sort out their differences. McKenzie unfortunately has always sided with the ANC to put and keep them in power.
Jane you are honestly indeed without a doubt a die hard DA and its your choice but leave our people alone please worry about yours.
ANC is not Gaytons priority he knows how we all feel. Thank you
Did you listen to all the interviews . Helen is the problem ..Gayton in previous interview stated he changed his views and is now a Nonracial party ... He mentioned what happened at the coalition talks ..how Helen said she will go with the ANC ....
Ah Mashaba disappoints me on the BRICS issue. He doesn't see the potential in a changing world. Do business with the west and BRICS at the same time, stay neutral. I hope IFP, FF+ and PA will make Mashaba see that BRICS is a good opportunity. I know the DA's position because they just bend the knee to the west. Many business analysts have explained the benefits of BRICS. Yes, we do trade more with the west, but 20 years down the line, we will probably be trading more with the east. Those who don't believe this, just look at Africa's trading history in 2001 and now in 2023. China took over from the USA as Africa's largest trading partner and now India has overtaken the UK in GDP, so please Herman, do not separate yourself from BRICS when many blossoming nations are begging to be part of BRICS. Saudi Arabia, Indonesia, Argentina, Mexico, Algeria, Morocco, Nigeria are all trying to apply to be a part of BRICS! Don't leave when so many nations want to join.
Russia is the fly in the ointment. We need BICS. Remove the ‘R’.
@@christinefinniss6263 if you want cheap oil, you need Russia. If you wanna build a nuclear power plant cheaply, call Russia
BRICS is a raw deal for SouthA. We have the smallest economy of all the BRICS nations yet we are importing more from them, than they are importing from us, they are raping us instead of helping us.
This man is talking comman sense. Listern to him. We trust in Jesus to give us SA , wisdom on how to do it. But the churches must train the congregation to tell the people to repent of their sins. And call on his name to save them.❤