Practicing Chinese Internal Martial Art, the older You get the more agile and flexible You become. How many old folks can move like him at his age? Muscle men will envy these masters when they grow old.
Mantis isn't the only style to use wrist strikes, idk why people think that. Those are in lots of styles. Wing Chun uses them more than anything I've seen.
That's because as you become more skilled, you learn that only subtracting techniques is the way. Simplicity always becomes the key - and just a handful of techniques are those used.
NO MATTER WHERE YOU go bagua seems to reveared the world over by many masters and teachers. it might be because it efective at long,med,and short range as an internal martal art one of the hardist to learn
No, the idea is to be able to know what to do, when to do it, and how to get your opponent in a position that allows you to do it. In sciences like Bagua, this skill is attained by being sensitive to where your opponent's center is moving, and then trap the person so they cannot move effectively. This ability is garnered through exercises like Rolling Hands. The resulting technique will be spontaneous, and you won't likely remember what you did. Subtracting techniques limits you.
@theMAG101 what style do you learn? hmm Yin style has one main diference to other, more "grapling and moving" styles cause it is more agresive with punches, kicks and hiting. Similar to Xing Yi animal backrounding after learning the main principles ing Yin Bagua you integrate some mantis and white crane like sifu Zhu
Stormtalus, I don't think so, because Bagua is a very evasive art (hence the circular footwork, large skill involved, and so on). It doesn't generally encourage brute force and trying to muscle an attack in.
spontaneity triumphs over technique as you will learn through Bagua etc...techinque is in fact used to root ones own basis, until individual personality decides what kind of spontaneous skill or style evolves
does anyone know where i can learn the yin style bagua form that corresponds with the earth trigram. and what style has techniques that correspond to each of the 64 hexegrams?
It allowed them to train close to 100% power and conditioned them well, not many in west train chinese wrestling so not many think of it but if you look deeper into the roots of CMA you will see alot if it there.
@theMAG101 I agree with You.Its only problem with translation.In some countries groups of techniques in one style were translated "styles".Thank You for answer.Its good that I got new knowledge.If You are receptive in conversation it always brings new knowledge.It was similar to mantis becouse combination of using fingers and absorbing energy of opponent is analogical way and sometimes looks comparable.
@theMAG101 : there are quite a lot of similarities between Bagua and Mantis. The principle difference is that Bagua fights from outside of the circle inward, whereas Mantis fights from the centre of the circle outward.
Don't be naive I practice wing chun for years but it has it's limits as a system. Bagua is a very complex art. And to even get it right you need a great teacher who totally understands the structure of it.
The PRC didn't do much more than force hard core arts underground for a while. There is a lot of hype about PRC vs. TW/HK etc... But, look at the number of people competing in San Da and other non-cooperative sports and you will see the PRC doing pretty well. Besides, when I was in Taiwan, all the teachers complained that the youth lacked the ability to train hard "年輕人不願意吃苦". Their words, not mine. Same complaints from PRC teachers now.
@theMAG101 Maybe you think he has mantis background bc of the wrist strikes... But actually Yin Bagua has many usages for wrist attacks similarly to Mantis. However, Mantis stepping methods differ greatly with Bagua Zhang, and the fighting strategy is slightly different.
Does this style use repelling techniques? As in stopping an attack with a push of roughly equivalent force? If I'm thinking of something else, please let me know
This is one of the reasons CMA is dead today. What lived on was very secret, and isolated form practice amongst families. As a result alot of CMA lost its fighting edge, and it was a reminder of a horrible time. I could go on, but this period of time was when kung fu, and chinese culture in general started dying.
its because the fist in yin style is of the gentle fist family meaning its not a totally closed fist like mantis meaning to strike and move or redirect and move.
I agree with you, so our style the Bagua Zhang Style Cheng we use the "paws of the dragon" form of hands resembling the hand of the monkey. We also learn before the Bagua Zhang the mechanics of other styles like the style of the Praying Mantis (Taiji Meihua Tang Lang Quan or Meihua Tang Lang Quan etc) so that the body moves like a whip it helps for the Bagua.
There were a few movements that reminded me of Mantis, such as his quick armpit strike near the beginning and his method of side-kick. Like I said, just curious.
It could be a number of things. I couldn't give you an exact answer - but in Kung Fu we sometimes use a movement called Gahn Sau - which essentially is pushing someone across their centerline. It looks almost like a push, but rather is a short jerk that sets them off balance. I'm not sure what you mean though: arts like Kung Fu/Wing chun may meet hands in the middle - but immediately you'll see someone move outside, inside, around, etc. with a strike. Can you explain what you mean more?
Cloud I have to say you are wrong m8. Certainly other styles are having their day eg BJJ etc but CMA has its roots in chinese wrestling also which is not usually what people think of when they speak of CMA. The emperors soldiers actually trained maybe 85% wrestling with a little striking range.
you can advertise yourself as you want, even doing a black PR but true is you are no one in Beijing, but Zhu Baozhen is famous. u just want to find some naive foreigners to learn from you for big bucks. have a good day
I never did any mantis training, i have no idea why do you think its resemble MAntis... Teacher Zhu BAozhen never practiced Mantis in his life, just bagua
Practicing Chinese Internal Martial Art, the older You get the more agile and flexible You become. How many old folks can move like him at his age? Muscle men will envy these masters when they grow old.
Mantis isn't the only style to use wrist strikes, idk why people think that. Those are in lots of styles. Wing Chun uses them more than anything I've seen.
That's because as you become more skilled, you learn that only subtracting techniques is the way. Simplicity always becomes the key - and just a handful of techniques are those used.
NO MATTER WHERE YOU go bagua
seems to reveared the world over by many masters and teachers. it might be because it efective at long,med,and short range as an internal martal art one of the hardist to learn
No, the idea is to be able to know what to do, when to do it, and how to get your opponent in a position that allows you to do it. In sciences like Bagua, this skill is attained by being sensitive to where your opponent's center is moving, and then trap the person so they cannot move effectively. This ability is garnered through exercises like Rolling Hands. The resulting technique will be spontaneous, and you won't likely remember what you did. Subtracting techniques limits you.
@theMAG101 what style do you learn? hmm Yin style has one main diference to other, more "grapling and moving" styles cause it is more agresive with punches, kicks and hiting. Similar to Xing Yi animal backrounding after learning the main principles ing Yin Bagua you integrate some mantis and white crane like sifu Zhu
I have all book from Master Zhu if you want contact me and I show you a lot of Hands form on photo ! ^^
Stormtalus,
I don't think so, because Bagua is a very evasive art (hence the circular footwork, large skill involved, and so on). It doesn't generally encourage brute force and trying to muscle an attack in.
@theMAG101 Ba Gua contains many styles.Its normal in kung fu.
Really nice!!VEry nice clear explanations!
Thank you
spontaneity triumphs over technique as you will learn through Bagua etc...techinque is in fact used to root ones own basis, until individual personality decides what kind of spontaneous skill or style evolves
does anyone know where i can learn the yin style bagua form that corresponds with the earth trigram. and what style has techniques that correspond to each of the 64 hexegrams?
It allowed them to train close to 100% power and conditioned them well, not many in west train chinese wrestling so not many think of it but if you look deeper into the roots of CMA you will see alot if it there.
@theMAG101 I agree with You.Its only problem with translation.In some countries groups of techniques in one style were translated "styles".Thank You for answer.Its good that I got new knowledge.If You are receptive in conversation it always brings new knowledge.It was similar to mantis becouse combination of using fingers and absorbing energy of opponent is analogical way and sometimes looks comparable.
@theMAG101 : there are quite a lot of similarities between Bagua and Mantis. The principle difference is that Bagua fights from outside of the circle inward, whereas Mantis fights from the centre of the circle outward.
Don't be naive I practice wing chun for years but it has it's limits as a system. Bagua is a very complex art. And to even get it right you need a great teacher who totally understands the structure of it.
The PRC didn't do much more than force hard core arts underground for a while. There is a lot of hype about PRC vs. TW/HK etc... But, look at the number of people competing in San Da and other non-cooperative sports and you will see the PRC doing pretty well. Besides, when I was in Taiwan, all the teachers complained that the youth lacked the ability to train hard "年輕人不願意吃苦". Their words, not mine. Same complaints from PRC teachers now.
@theMAG101 Maybe you think he has mantis background bc of the wrist strikes... But actually Yin Bagua has many usages for wrist attacks similarly to Mantis. However, Mantis stepping methods differ greatly with Bagua Zhang, and the fighting strategy is slightly different.
Well I'm not sure if it's a specific style but in fights I've seen a person stop strikes with strikes instead of blocking
Does this style use repelling techniques? As in stopping an attack with a push of roughly equivalent force? If I'm thinking of something else, please let me know
This is one of the reasons CMA is dead today. What lived on was very secret, and isolated form practice amongst families. As a result alot of CMA lost its fighting edge, and it was a reminder of a horrible time. I could go on, but this period of time was when kung fu, and chinese culture in general started dying.
its because the fist in yin style is of the gentle fist family meaning its not a totally closed fist like mantis meaning to strike and move or redirect and move.
I agree with you, so our style the Bagua Zhang Style Cheng we use the "paws of the dragon" form of hands resembling the hand of the monkey. We also learn before the Bagua Zhang the mechanics of other styles like the style of the Praying Mantis (Taiji Meihua Tang Lang Quan or Meihua Tang Lang Quan etc) so that the body moves like a whip it helps for the Bagua.
On a side note, this guy is amazing
There were a few movements that reminded me of Mantis, such as his quick armpit strike near the beginning and his method of side-kick. Like I said, just curious.
good one, thanks for posting
It could be a number of things. I couldn't give you an exact answer - but in Kung Fu we sometimes use a movement called Gahn Sau - which essentially is pushing someone across their centerline. It looks almost like a push, but rather is a short jerk that sets them off balance.
I'm not sure what you mean though: arts like Kung Fu/Wing chun may meet hands in the middle - but immediately you'll see someone move outside, inside, around, etc. with a strike.
Can you explain what you mean more?
Cloud I have to say you are wrong m8. Certainly other styles are having their day eg BJJ etc but CMA has its roots in chinese wrestling also which is not usually what people think of when they speak of CMA. The emperors soldiers actually trained maybe 85% wrestling with a little striking range.
This was the style of the imperial bodyguards. There's probably a reason.
Nice comment, I completely concur!...
Why, if it is spoken in chinese, is there japanese subtitles?
He seems like a really nice guy. Not some hardcore macho maniac. I'd study with him in a second.
Damn the japanese just loves to learn chinese internal martial arts.
They know where to find the rare gems.
actually it is. In a book I've read, some of Aikido's main principles, including footwork was influenced by Baguazhang.
because this was orifinally for Japanese audience. Guy in black is Japanese
4:16 love that head butt counter
he reminds me of my coach!
dude it depends on your skill and training and how you use the style so u really shouldn't underestimate any styles of martial art -_-
this guy is so funny and skilled. heh heh
this guy didn't consider how to counter the japanese guy's left hand in the beginning
"年輕人不願意吃苦" - "young people are not willing to eat bitters"
totally different roots
that old guy is amazing!
sorry I have no idea, they never came again, I think they wanted only this footage
wow, hes like 60 year old+, but hes so athletic
not bad for an old man
the wisdom of ancient chinese
oh ok, i forgot that he used a palm strike at the same time towards the guy's face
you can advertise yourself as you want, even doing a black PR but true is you are no one in Beijing, but Zhu Baozhen is famous. u just want to find some naive foreigners to learn from you for big bucks. have a good day
you cant really make a statement like that. it all dependso n the person and their understanding of the martial arts
awesome drunken snake mantis.*master rules.
Ah, ok. Thank you but then what was I thinking of?
he was 71 when this ideo was shot
nothing like aikido wayyy different
I never did any mantis training, i have no idea why do you think its resemble MAntis... Teacher Zhu BAozhen never practiced Mantis in his life, just bagua
them's some awsome nikes,lol
gross