You and your source performed a public service and exposed what is likely a greedy, legal but unethical move to strangle the golden age of pipe tobacco.
As a European pipe smoker, I can say that on one hand you're right, the people who enjoy the hobby the way you promote it are just a niche, even though they aren't non-existent. On the other hand, the time of the older pipe smoker who would just fill his pipe with anything and just smoke all day is gone, people who do that are maybe not more numerous than the other kind, and it's only a few times a year you will walk pass a man with a pipe in his mouth, even in the bigger cities. Last year I met a very outgoing 31 year-old who saw my pipe in amazement, and told me it was the first time in her life she actually saw someone smoke a pipe.
Writing from England the vast majority of pipe smokers I see are old men, probably smoking the codger blends we have over here like Gold Block and St Bruno. The artisanal blends really are a niche in an already extremely niche hobby, and in my experience the tobacconists selling them are surviving mostly through cigar sales more than anything else. And that's without mentioning the continual tax hikes and government legislation restricting where people even can smoke, which is all aimed at cigarette smokers, but inevitably hits pipe smokers hard as collateral damage. IMO, unless they find a way to reduce or reframe all of the ill effects of tobacco smoking (literally a lung cancer cure for example), and it leads to a smoking renaissance and relaxing of government disincentives and regulations, as has happened with cannabis, the future for this hobby looks bleak.
STG itself is a product of the global regulatory market and as you said the regulatory hurdles and high cost to new market entrants stifle freedom in personal and economic arenas. More righteous anger should be directed at the governments of the world. ☮️
Don't boycott, this is not the situation where you boycott. You know what happens? They look at all the brands they're talking about and say "gee, Jeff from the marketing analytics team was right..these brands are doing TERRIBLE! Cut them immediately instead of waiting!"
I think it would be informative to talk to the medium size US blenders like Squire, Bozz, etc and see if they have a plan to continue without Sutliff. It would ease a lot of stress... maybe.
If Sutliff is truly going away, which I am not yet convinced is an absolute, Cornell and Deihl probably could fill this void as they have a large amount of base tobaccos in their offerings so its possible to reformulate them, I imagine.
Many of them have said they will adapt. Ernie from watch city is active on forums and said he said has been preemptively buying c&d blending tobacco and is very happy with the quality over sutliffs. The only one I have seen who seems like he doesnt want to adapt is Ken Byron Ventures. A lot of people forget or didnt know that blenders have been through this before when McClelland shut down.
STG's revenues for 2023 were $1.27 billion, mostly cigars. Global tobacco product sales in 2023 were $941 billion (cigarettes, cigars, e-cig and smoking tobacco) of which smoking tobacco was $59.3 billion (according to Statista). Another site shows only $73 million in pipe tobacco sales in 2023. This seems more realistic and reasonable. STG's market share depends. Nothing we say or do will change the situation. In short, smoke what you like, cellar what you can, and enjoy life.
What YTPC members and pipe enthusiast may not realize Is that many of these STG corporate decision makers are not pipe smokers. As a matter of fact; I can say with a high amount of certainty that many of them vehemently have issues with tobacco use and their job are to increase profitability.
Have you tried the limited releases? Carolina red flake, from beyond palmetto balkan, and much more from their limited releases always taste aged and refined.
I will definitely support C&D in the future. Having less than a year under my belt in the pipe hobby, I won’t be hurt as bad as all the old timers. I’ve only ever had Escudo from STG, the Peterson from STG and all my Stokkebye products from STG. I enjoy them all and don’t have any memory of blends of the past. Still gotta try Rattray’s/G&H. I’ve only tried a couple different C&D blends, so I will soon be expanding my cellar to include them and all the stuff they manufacture for other companies. I’m hoping my guys at Watch City cigar find a way around the Sutliff fall. I’ve come to really enjoy Old Dominion and look forward to trying their other options
Thank you, Bradley, for always keeping us up to date, along with all your wonderful tobacco reviews! You are the first one I ever watched concerning pipes and tobacco. I've seen all your content and then some every time I buy a new blend. You are always spot on, on the taste, strength etc on these tobaccos. Once again thank you for all being here to keep us up to date and entertained. You are a true pipe community soldier!
STG dropped sales of the Dunhil/peterson blends to Canada back when they took them over. Hard to maintain sales when you remove them from entire markets.
I realized the irritation in my comment might seem directed at you. It isn't. It's just agreement with what you posted. STG claims they aren't profiting on the Peterson/Dunhill blends, but they cut the sales. Of course profits will dry up.
Never had one of my comments mentioned in a video before! Pretty awesome! Elizabethan is probably my favorite vaper at the moment but after the new year bayou morning may be the start of my replacement vaper journey. Hopefully stg will keep at least 4/5 blends from Peterson. Really like Balkan mix and nightcap as well. Not to mention Seattle pipe club stuff…. 😢
I'm definitely going to support C&D, but I'm going to wait and see what happens with STG and what blends stay or go. In the end, if they get rid of all the blends I love, STG will force me to spend my money elsewhere - not a boycott where I suffer from not getting product from existing stock.
It will be interesting to see if CD purchases any of the sutliff blends. I know there are a decent handful of them that are actually good and sell quite well. At least in the American market. Haven't found a replacement for the aromatic english type blend of sutliff that is all but sold out everywhere now. Thankfully CD already makes a revelation style blend.
If I were you I'd just buy and jar up a few pounds. That way if it does get the axe you either have a good buffer to find a suitable replacement or you can turn it from an all day everyday into one for special smokes. Either way I'd definitely get a couple pounds and jar it up nice
@stuffandthingsyoutube Irish Flake is sort of similar, and an STG tobacco so maybe they'll nix one or the other. ODF is more popular, I'm pretty sure. I love both.
Thanks for going above and beyond to get information,I was thinking about trying some Peterson blends now it is a waste of time for me , I agree they are trying to create a monopoly then limit what us pipe smoker's can choose from.
You're so right about how capitalism is misused. There isn't even A capitalism. There are different kinds! But in classical economics, monopolies were seen as bad. Adam Smith was not a fan. And monopolies are bad! Smith and others reacted to mercantilism, which was monopolistic and cronyist. Also, people conflate markets with capitalism. Capitalism is based on a market economy, but markets predate capitalism. People do the same thing to socialism. There are many different kinds. Anarchosyndicalism is much different than state socialism for example.
I'm on time! I think I've mentioned this in the past, but I've never understood why someone would waste their time leaving hate comments. I work long days, and I value the little time that I have off.
Bradley, when you acknowledged the prohibitive US regulatory regime, you were also acknowledging that it's the lack of free-market capitalism that's the problem. Thanks.
To fully judge STG's moves, I'd want to know more about what is happening with worldwide pipe T consumption: is it growing, shrinking, or holding steady? Also, I'd want to know the profit/loss status of each of those blends. STG is to a charity; it's a business. If I love a blend, but only I and three other people are willing to buy it, I'd be upset -- but also understanding of the economics of the situation.
For sure on supporting C&D, I have a feeling they will take the Seattle Pipe club blending. I just wish they had better quality tins 😖 People need to help boost Kopp too to keep them from selling out to STG. Also going to try some LJ Peretti
It's capitalism, but the problem is really government. So many rules and regulations stifle competition. One can extend this to the current debate on the health insurance industry. People say the system is broken because it's too capitalistic, and government needs to provide universal health care. But, they fail to realize that the reason why the health insurance industry is broken is because of the many rules and regulations that government has created. Less government is better.
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Night cap, from my experience, is From Beyond by C&D. Its a limited release, but once they have it make sure to stock up. They use aged tobacco, so it is a little more on the medium bodied side, but Jeremy reeves himself was trying to replicate an aged Nightcap he tasted while back, and is the purpose of From Beyond to imitate. He achieved that. It’s one of the best Latakia blends I have ever tasted. For EMP, heard exhausted rooster by C&D is a close match, or rather C&D version of EMP, but never really tried it. For MM965, you’ll just have to stock up as nothing seems to be like it in the market :)
I wonder if they didn't just raise prices if they wouldn't still sell all of their popular blends. Everything else has doubled in price the last few years.
As a fellow resident of your city, which I'm just finding out about in this video, I'd be very interested to discuss a few things with you if possible!
Like your comments on capitalism, with Sutliff closing down that covers tobacco and cigars is there any other item ie do they have a pipe area that will be closing etc
I'm always fine with the free market/capitalism, but we are entering a phase of toxic capitalism--making money at the expense of employees, the public, etc.--that I definitely think needs some regulation. Monopolies have always been bad, competition has always been good. Like you I won't necessarily be boycotting, or even purposefully avoiding, any tobacco manufacturers, but I will definitely be doubling down on supporting C&D/GLP, Gawith, and B&M's.
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Technically in a pure capitalism there would never be a monopoly because there would always be a strive for competition. Literally the "invisible hand" would be money the people crying late stage capitalism don't know the name Adam Smith or read "Wealth of Nations" or know that he wrote the book or anything else. What is also interesting is that econ professors will allude to the book and never seemingly require reading it. I've met more people who have read Marx which both of his most popular works combined are about half the pages of Wealth of Nations and are much more emotional. The problems as I would say with systems is that people do not confine themselves to boxes, people cheat, they will not pursue the "best" course of action. So the philosophy doesn't always work the way it's presented. I find Smith's view of humanity to be for more close to reality than Marx and that can be seen in economic disparity in the countries foundations of economics in all of history. I am not sure econ should even be a high school class, hardly if ever is taught by an econ Phd or masters the common history teach have no clue what they are talking about. heck econ 100s ion college teaches frameworks and if you stop there it's actually bad because in 200s you learn what happens in 101 is a truncation to get the language in concepts but reality doesn't work that way at all. Listening to supply and demand conversations... the brain hurts.
Right! People aren't always rational. They're prone to emotion and taking shortcuts too. Economics and economic theory are huge fields with wildly different methods and assumptions. People often don't think how capitalism needs a state and the rule of law to function either. And not even in the sense of regulations but in the sense of a reliable currency, infrastructure, and courts to enforce contracts.
I read WON just out of interest. I have not studied economy. Found it extremely interesting in historical sense, and far lighter read than usually claimed. What is mostly ignored about The Wealth Of Nations is how consistently through the whole book Smith kept warning about wealthy men getting together and scheming against the common good. He gave no ideas how to stop this from happening. I think strong antitrust legislation would be the best shot, but with all the power the corporations have, that's not going to happen.
Our regulations helped the monopolization. Love the free market but hate it when you see this. Maybe new administration will do something that will help.
When thinking about capitalism, one must be specific. We suffer under what is called Supply Side Economics, which favors producers and has created the billionaire class. The alternative is Demand Side Economics, which favors the buying market. The 1971 Powell Memo, and Ronald Reagan implemented Trickle Down Economics, which is the Powell Memo made into policy.
@@AllofJudea I don't think it's the perique. I noticed a bit of this funk in Pirate Kake. I assume it's some additive, maybe an anti-mold agent but I don't know. Nobody's else's perique smells like this and C&D blends didn't smell like this until maybe within the last five years.
@@AllofJudea It doesn't come through in the taste that I can remember but the smell! My first thought it was like stomach reflux. It somewhere between stinky cheese and a septic wound. The few blends that don't have that stink that I am aware of are their traditional rum soaked blends like Black Frigate and Blockade Runner.
Honestly, that sounds a bit like perique to me.😂 Often has a funky cheese smell. I've encountered it in Haunted Bookshop before, also Gaslight... Both blends I love. But to each their own, I could totally see how that could be offputting.
Ok. I see your point about definitions and fascism. But it seems like “capitalism” is a slippery word. Some use it to describe the good stuff that happens in the economy, and when the bad stuff happens they blame something else. Meanwhile, the rich get richer and working class people like us seem stuck. Oh well, I don’t mean to be argumentative. I enjoy your channel and thank you for the effort and skill you put into it. I’ve learned a lot from you in this hobby.
It's a sticky area. We look at how much CEOs make and feel like it isn't fair and that more should go to workers. Someone pointed out to me a few years back that cutting CEO pay won't necessarily change much for workers, at least not for massive corporations. For example, at that time (maybe 6 or 7 years ago) taking the Walmart CEO salary and distributing equally among all Walmart employees would result in a pay raise of something like $10 a year. Not very helpful. There's a guy up in Oregon or Washington who runs a loan processing business. He raised all of his employees' pay to $70,000/ year minimum and lowered his own to match. When Covid hit, he paid them full pay while they were off. All of his employees work hard for him and are very loyal, and even pooled their own money to buy him a really nice car that he had wanted. We need more bosses like that guy. (Funny enough, he claims to hate capitalism, but his business is an example of capitalism being done right - the most important investment in any venture is in the people who work there.)
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You and your source performed a public service and exposed what is likely a greedy, legal but unethical move to strangle the golden age of pipe tobacco.
I for one am shocked. Never wouldve thought the tobacco industry would be home to unethical business practices
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As a European pipe smoker, I can say that on one hand you're right, the people who enjoy the hobby the way you promote it are just a niche, even though they aren't non-existent. On the other hand, the time of the older pipe smoker who would just fill his pipe with anything and just smoke all day is gone, people who do that are maybe not more numerous than the other kind, and it's only a few times a year you will walk pass a man with a pipe in his mouth, even in the bigger cities. Last year I met a very outgoing 31 year-old who saw my pipe in amazement, and told me it was the first time in her life she actually saw someone smoke a pipe.
Writing from England the vast majority of pipe smokers I see are old men, probably smoking the codger blends we have over here like Gold Block and St Bruno. The artisanal blends really are a niche in an already extremely niche hobby, and in my experience the tobacconists selling them are surviving mostly through cigar sales more than anything else. And that's without mentioning the continual tax hikes and government legislation restricting where people even can smoke, which is all aimed at cigarette smokers, but inevitably hits pipe smokers hard as collateral damage. IMO, unless they find a way to reduce or reframe all of the ill effects of tobacco smoking (literally a lung cancer cure for example), and it leads to a smoking renaissance and relaxing of government disincentives and regulations, as has happened with cannabis, the future for this hobby looks bleak.
Pipe Dream #1: McCelland's sees this and decides to try again. LMAO
STG itself is a product of the global regulatory market and as you said the regulatory hurdles and high cost to new market entrants stifle freedom in personal and economic arenas.
More righteous anger should be directed at the governments of the world. ☮️
I hope Mac Baren keeps their HH line. I'm going to stockpile their Burley Flake anyways just in case.
I hope so too!
Me too! I have a pipe dedicated to that blend.
Is there a PR department at STG? That might be the best way in. We really appreciate your work on this, informative and professional as ever.
Don't boycott, this is not the situation where you boycott. You know what happens? They look at all the brands they're talking about and say "gee, Jeff from the marketing analytics team was right..these brands are doing TERRIBLE! Cut them immediately instead of waiting!"
I think it would be informative to talk to the medium size US blenders like Squire, Bozz, etc and see if they have a plan to continue without Sutliff.
It would ease a lot of stress... maybe.
If Sutliff is truly going away, which I am not yet convinced is an absolute, Cornell and Deihl probably could fill this void as they have a large amount of base tobaccos in their offerings so its possible to reformulate them, I imagine.
Spoke to JM Boswell last weekend. He plans on continuing, business as usual. He's using other suppliers.
@@imthatguy529 Fantastic!! Thanks for that info.
great idea.
Many of them have said they will adapt. Ernie from watch city is active on forums and said he said has been preemptively buying c&d blending tobacco and is very happy with the quality over sutliffs. The only one I have seen who seems like he doesnt want to adapt is Ken Byron Ventures. A lot of people forget or didnt know that blenders have been through this before when McClelland shut down.
STG's revenues for 2023 were $1.27 billion, mostly cigars. Global tobacco product sales in 2023 were $941 billion (cigarettes, cigars, e-cig and smoking tobacco) of which smoking tobacco was $59.3 billion (according to Statista). Another site shows only $73 million in pipe tobacco sales in 2023. This seems more realistic and reasonable. STG's market share depends. Nothing we say or do will change the situation. In short, smoke what you like, cellar what you can, and enjoy life.
I am in a few pipe smokers groups on Facebook. Your video was posted and linked in more than one of them. Each has thousands of members…..
What YTPC members and pipe enthusiast may not realize Is that many of these STG corporate decision makers are not pipe smokers. As a matter of fact; I can say with a high amount of certainty that many of them vehemently have issues with tobacco use and their job are to increase profitability.
Unpopular opinion; every Cornell and Diehl blend I have had was unrefined and the leaf tasted young. I wish I could get on board with them.
Have you tried the limited releases? Carolina red flake, from beyond palmetto balkan, and much more from their limited releases always taste aged and refined.
My experience is similar. I have several tins sitting unopened. I'll sit on them for a few more years and see how they turn out.
Many taste the same too.
I will definitely support C&D in the future. Having less than a year under my belt in the pipe hobby, I won’t be hurt as bad as all the old timers. I’ve only ever had Escudo from STG, the Peterson from STG and all my Stokkebye products from STG. I enjoy them all and don’t have any memory of blends of the past.
Still gotta try Rattray’s/G&H. I’ve only tried a couple different C&D blends, so I will soon be expanding my cellar to include them and all the stuff they manufacture for other companies. I’m hoping my guys at Watch City cigar find a way around the Sutliff fall. I’ve come to really enjoy Old Dominion and look forward to trying their other options
The world will definitely keep turning. Thanks for sharing!
Just realized this STG thing puts Presbyterian at risk. Tin dated 11/21 was distributed by MacBaren.
Thank you, Bradley, for always keeping us up to date, along with all your wonderful tobacco reviews! You are the first one I ever watched concerning pipes and tobacco. I've seen all your content and then some every time I buy a new blend. You are always spot on, on the taste, strength etc on these tobaccos. Once again thank you for all being here to keep us up to date and entertained. You are a true pipe community soldier!
That means a lot! Thanks!
STG dropped sales of the Dunhil/peterson blends to Canada back when they took them over. Hard to maintain sales when you remove them from entire markets.
Imagine that. Stop selling a product then notice the profit has gone away.
I realized the irritation in my comment might seem directed at you. It isn't. It's just agreement with what you posted. STG claims they aren't profiting on the Peterson/Dunhill blends, but they cut the sales. Of course profits will dry up.
Also, I hope the blend info/recipes make it out. They can destroy the equipment, but destroying a hundred years of knowledge is a travesty
Agreed.
Never had one of my comments mentioned in a video before! Pretty awesome! Elizabethan is probably my favorite vaper at the moment but after the new year bayou morning may be the start of my replacement vaper journey. Hopefully stg will keep at least 4/5 blends from Peterson. Really like Balkan mix and nightcap as well. Not to mention Seattle pipe club stuff…. 😢
I'm definitely going to support C&D, but I'm going to wait and see what happens with STG and what blends stay or go. In the end, if they get rid of all the blends I love, STG will force me to spend my money elsewhere - not a boycott where I suffer from not getting product from existing stock.
Buy, thanks for what info you could get. 😊
Sounds reasonable to me!
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Merry Christmas!
It will be interesting to see if CD purchases any of the sutliff blends. I know there are a decent handful of them that are actually good and sell quite well. At least in the American market. Haven't found a replacement for the aromatic english type blend of sutliff that is all but sold out everywhere now. Thankfully CD already makes a revelation style blend.
On a positive note, I found out i wasn't subscribed to your channel but am now. Go Hawks!
Thanks for checking!
I’m confused as to what would happen to Cobblestone Hiking since it’s trademarked by Sutliff and made by Kopp, either way already stockpiled that one.
I just bought 8oz of angry Cornishman.. that gives me about a pound of that blend.. hopefully some blends are still able to stick around..
Bradley, do you have any recommendations for a replacement for HH Old Dark Fired? I fear about my all day blend getting axed 😢
If I were you I'd just buy and jar up a few pounds. That way if it does get the axe you either have a good buffer to find a suitable replacement or you can turn it from an all day everyday into one for special smokes. Either way I'd definitely get a couple pounds and jar it up nice
There is no replacement. It's MB top selling blend though, so you're probably good.
Nothing comes immediately to mind. Let's hope it doesn't go away, though even if retained, it's bound to be a bit different.
@stuffandthingsyoutube Irish Flake is sort of similar, and an STG tobacco so maybe they'll nix one or the other. ODF is more popular, I'm pretty sure. I love both.
Thanks for going above and beyond to get information,I was thinking about trying some Peterson blends now it is a waste of time for me , I agree they are trying to create a monopoly then limit what us pipe smoker's can choose from.
Great video. I love the channel. Go Steelers.
You're so right about how capitalism is misused. There isn't even A capitalism. There are different kinds! But in classical economics, monopolies were seen as bad. Adam Smith was not a fan. And monopolies are bad! Smith and others reacted to mercantilism, which was monopolistic and cronyist. Also, people conflate markets with capitalism. Capitalism is based on a market economy, but markets predate capitalism. People do the same thing to socialism. There are many different kinds. Anarchosyndicalism is much different than state socialism for example.
All very true.
I'm on time! I think I've mentioned this in the past, but I've never understood why someone would waste their time leaving hate comments. I work long days, and I value the little time that I have off.
Exactly!
Bradley, when you acknowledged the prohibitive US regulatory regime, you were also acknowledging that it's the lack of free-market capitalism that's the problem. Thanks.
To fully judge STG's moves, I'd want to know more about what is happening with worldwide pipe T consumption: is it growing, shrinking, or holding steady? Also, I'd want to know the profit/loss status of each of those blends. STG is to a charity; it's a business. If I love a blend, but only I and three other people are willing to buy it, I'd be upset -- but also understanding of the economics of the situation.
9:12: A reminder that we are all nerds.
For sure on supporting C&D, I have a feeling they will take the Seattle Pipe club blending. I just wish they had better quality tins 😖 People need to help boost Kopp too to keep them from selling out to STG. Also going to try some LJ Peretti
Vote with your dollar. It's the only vote that matters.
It's capitalism, but the problem is really government. So many rules and regulations stifle competition. One can extend this to the current debate on the health insurance industry. People say the system is broken because it's too capitalistic, and government needs to provide universal health care. But, they fail to realize that the reason why the health insurance industry is broken is because of the many rules and regulations that government has created. Less government is better.
I tend to agree.
I'm still reeling over losing McClelland a few years ago. This just rubs further salt in the wounds.
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Best copycat blends for : Night Cap, My Mixture 965 and EMP? Asking for a friend ;)
Night cap, from my experience, is From Beyond by C&D. Its a limited release, but once they have it make sure to stock up. They use aged tobacco, so it is a little more on the medium bodied side, but Jeremy reeves himself was trying to replicate an aged Nightcap he tasted while back, and is the purpose of From Beyond to imitate. He achieved that. It’s one of the best Latakia blends I have ever tasted.
For EMP, heard exhausted rooster by C&D is a close match, or rather C&D version of EMP, but never really tried it. For MM965, you’ll just have to stock up as nothing seems to be like it in the market :)
I wonder if they didn't just raise prices if they wouldn't still sell all of their popular blends. Everything else has doubled in price the last few years.
As a fellow resident of your city, which I'm just finding out about in this video, I'd be very interested to discuss a few things with you if possible!
But Prince Albert is okay, right? Safe?
And here I was hoping that Peterson was going to start releasing other Dunhill blends. Probably not...
VERY doubtful.
If I'm not on the clock, my pipe is probably stoked. But I'm honestly okay with just smoking other brands.
Like your comments on capitalism, with Sutliff closing down that covers tobacco and cigars is there any other item ie do they have a pipe area that will be closing etc
I'm always fine with the free market/capitalism, but we are entering a phase of toxic capitalism--making money at the expense of employees, the public, etc.--that I definitely think needs some regulation. Monopolies have always been bad, competition has always been good. Like you I won't necessarily be boycotting, or even purposefully avoiding, any tobacco manufacturers, but I will definitely be doubling down on supporting C&D/GLP, Gawith, and B&M's.
Da BILLS BUDDY.
It's corporatism
WOW!Bradley! You wish the Eagles to do poor. I too now want the Seagulls to do poorly 😂 . Sorry, Seahawks! 😂 both of us want a bird to do well. Any ways. Let's not worry about things we have no control over, like pipe T and out teams. Go Eagles 🦅! 😊 go inexpensive tobacco. 😊 hope your holiday experience is going well and merry Christmas
You got your wish last night!
Technically in a pure capitalism there would never be a monopoly because there would always be a strive for competition. Literally the "invisible hand" would be money the people crying late stage capitalism don't know the name Adam Smith or read "Wealth of Nations" or know that he wrote the book or anything else. What is also interesting is that econ professors will allude to the book and never seemingly require reading it. I've met more people who have read Marx which both of his most popular works combined are about half the pages of Wealth of Nations and are much more emotional. The problems as I would say with systems is that people do not confine themselves to boxes, people cheat, they will not pursue the "best" course of action. So the philosophy doesn't always work the way it's presented. I find Smith's view of humanity to be for more close to reality than Marx and that can be seen in economic disparity in the countries foundations of economics in all of history. I am not sure econ should even be a high school class, hardly if ever is taught by an econ Phd or masters the common history teach have no clue what they are talking about. heck econ 100s ion college teaches frameworks and if you stop there it's actually bad because in 200s you learn what happens in 101 is a truncation to get the language in concepts but reality doesn't work that way at all. Listening to supply and demand conversations... the brain hurts.
Thanks for the insightful comment!
Right! People aren't always rational. They're prone to emotion and taking shortcuts too. Economics and economic theory are huge fields with wildly different methods and assumptions. People often don't think how capitalism needs a state and the rule of law to function either. And not even in the sense of regulations but in the sense of a reliable currency, infrastructure, and courts to enforce contracts.
I read WON just out of interest. I have not studied economy. Found it extremely interesting in historical sense, and far lighter read than usually claimed.
What is mostly ignored about The Wealth Of Nations is how consistently through the whole book Smith kept warning about wealthy men getting together and scheming against the common good.
He gave no ideas how to stop this from happening. I think strong antitrust legislation would be the best shot, but with all the power the corporations have, that's not going to happen.
it's a sad reality, but pipe smoking is receding. quickly
Like Bradlys hair line 😂
You thnk the Bills will make the first round? Or rather, advance from it? I have a bet with a buddy :P
I think so! That's what I'm hoping for anyway.
Our regulations helped the monopolization. Love the free market but hate it when you see this. Maybe new administration will do something that will help.
I think it's improperly regulated capitalism. As with much of our country currently we are both over and under regulated in all the wrong places
I'm a fence sitter
The daily wire should start pipe "tea" line to compliment their mayflower cigars and fill the sutliff void.
the daily wire is disgusting. one of the most hateful platforms.
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I guess the anti capitalists think socialism will give us a better pipe tobacco market? Lol 😂
Americans under 30 dont want to work. It’s probably way cheaper to make it all overseas.
When thinking about capitalism, one must be specific.
We suffer under what is called Supply Side Economics, which favors producers and has created the billionaire class.
The alternative is Demand Side Economics, which favors the buying market.
The 1971 Powell Memo, and Ronald Reagan implemented Trickle Down Economics, which is the Powell Memo made into policy.
Interesting. Hadn't heard of this.
I won't support Cornell & Diehl until they get rid of that septic funky cheese smell in many of their blends.
Perique?
@@AllofJudea I don't think it's the perique. I noticed a bit of this funk in Pirate Kake. I assume it's some additive, maybe an anti-mold agent but I don't know. Nobody's else's perique smells like this and C&D blends didn't smell like this until maybe within the last five years.
@NGC6144 Hmm. They have had mold problems forever, maybe they tried something new? Does it taste bad?
@@AllofJudea It doesn't come through in the taste that I can remember but the smell! My first thought it was like stomach reflux. It somewhere between stinky cheese and a septic wound. The few blends that don't have that stink that I am aware of are their traditional rum soaked blends like Black Frigate and Blockade Runner.
Honestly, that sounds a bit like perique to me.😂 Often has a funky cheese smell. I've encountered it in Haunted Bookshop before, also Gaslight... Both blends I love. But to each their own, I could totally see how that could be offputting.
Ok. I see your point about definitions and fascism. But it seems like “capitalism” is a slippery word. Some use it to describe the good stuff that happens in the economy, and when the bad stuff happens they blame something else. Meanwhile, the rich get richer and working class people like us seem stuck. Oh well, I don’t mean to be argumentative. I enjoy your channel and thank you for the effort and skill you put into it. I’ve learned a lot from you in this hobby.
It's a sticky area. We look at how much CEOs make and feel like it isn't fair and that more should go to workers. Someone pointed out to me a few years back that cutting CEO pay won't necessarily change much for workers, at least not for massive corporations. For example, at that time (maybe 6 or 7 years ago) taking the Walmart CEO salary and distributing equally among all Walmart employees would result in a pay raise of something like $10 a year. Not very helpful.
There's a guy up in Oregon or Washington who runs a loan processing business. He raised all of his employees' pay to $70,000/ year minimum and lowered his own to match. When Covid hit, he paid them full pay while they were off. All of his employees work hard for him and are very loyal, and even pooled their own money to buy him a really nice car that he had wanted. We need more bosses like that guy. (Funny enough, he claims to hate capitalism, but his business is an example of capitalism being done right - the most important investment in any venture is in the people who work there.)
You are correct about Capitalism vs Fascism vs Ignorance.
Honestly I don't like Sutlif tobaccos anyway. Always have that vinger sauce flavor. And everyone complains about that macbarren bite. Meh